Doctor on Buffalo Fanatics discussing Tre White recovery - link removed

[CorkScrewHill]

I removed the link as many pointed out reasonably that a random doctor watching some video is not a great means for judging Tre’s recovery. Sorry for the waste of time post.

Edited August 11, 2022 by CorkScrewHill

[LeGOATski]

Yeah, I never expected him back until mid-season. Where did the idea that he could be back week 1 come from? Just the fact that the Bills haven't brought in another vet or was there an actual Tre White update that I missed?

[BigAl2526]

Making a prognosis on the basis of what?  News reports?  I'm glad he's not my doctor.

[Rochesterfan]

8 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Yeah, I never expected him back until mid-season. Where did the idea that he could be back week 1 come from? Just the fact that the Bills haven't brought in another vet or was there an actual Tre White update that I missed?

 

Well the coach and DC have said he is on pace or ahead of schedule that was set after the surgery, but they are not rushing him.  I don’t know, but it seems like you would target the start of the season as it was nearly 9 months out.

 

Maddy Glab and Chris Brown have both talked multiple times this summer that in discussion he is ahead of schedule and looking like a plan for being activated for week 1.  The general consensus from the people around the team and guys like Sal from over the summer seems to be that he will be ready for limited action week 1.

 

Mark Gaughan in July reported that after several discussions that the most recent group of players have been seeing activity at or earlier than 9 months including multiple college players at 5 and 7 months respectively using newer recovery techniques and he was pegging the season opener as his comeback.

 

Basically everyone associated with the team or with team contacts are saying he is on or ahead of schedule, but they are not telling you the exact schedule.  We will see where he goes, but with the timing and the new rehab the Bills have - like 0 weight treadmills in the water - he has already been doing things that in the past could not be done until much later.

[Scott7975]

I trust this staff to put him out there when he is ready.  If they have shown anything, they have shown they err on the side of caution with injuries like this.

[JaCrispy]

After the bye week has always felt like the most realistic timeline…

[Royale with Cheese]

Week 8??  That would put it as an 11 month recovery time?  

[hemma]

I’d like a 2nd opinion.  

Instead of a thigh doctor, is a knee doctor available?

[mikemac2001]

Let him recover - I’m sure we will be fine they will play a soft zone to the the weak CB and have a scheme to cause confusion at first then cover up over the top 

[YattaOkasan]

6 minutes ago, hemma said:

I’d like a 2nd opinion.  

Instead of a thigh doctor, is a knee doctor available?

I think dr Kyle trimble was more high on him being ready. He’s on joe Marino during season but was on cover 1 recently 

 

 

Edited August 11, 2022 by YattaOkasan

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Until we hear about a setback he should be practicing soon. I think the Bills take advantage of the 4 week IR however.

[YattaOkasan]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Until we hear about a setback he should be practicing soon. I think the Bills take advantage of the 4 week IR however.

Why not the PUP. You get 2 weeks less for IR but it costs a roster spot. Will say that McBeane has shown a willing ness to do that to immediately use IR for some players. 

[ehfeuh57]

A doctor or Tre Whites doctor. Huge difference.

[Southern_Bills]

Eh, the guy is making an educated guess for attention. He knows more than me, but when it comes to knee repair surgery that isn't hard.

 

If Tre needs to be out to week 8, so be it. But I'd let the team doctor and his doctor (if they aren't the same) make that call.

[Bferra13]

1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said:

Making a prognosis on the basis of what?  News reports?  I'm glad he's not my doctor.

Clicks of course!

[Buffalo_Stampede]

56 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

Why not the PUP. You get 2 weeks less for IR but it costs a roster spot. Will say that McBeane has shown a willing ness to do that to immediately use IR for some players. 

I guess it depends on how close he is. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said:

Making a prognosis on the basis of what?  News reports?  I'm glad he's not my doctor.

I think he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[BillsFanForever19]

Everyone says doing work before 9 months post surgery is playing with fire. He had his surgery 12/10. That would have him returning to practice 9/10. They aren't going to just throw him straight into the starting lineup on Game Day. He'll probably need a week or two of Practice.

 

So I see Week 3 as the absolute soonest he could possibly come back. Probably closer to Weeks 4-6 to be safe.

Edited August 11, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[PrimeTime101]

2 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

I don’t know how qualified he is to make the analysis, but more than me certainly. He feels that Tre is about 80% back and would recommend they hold him out until after the bye (week 8).

 

I would hope he would be back sooner but definitely care more about him being healthy for the stretch run.

yea, did you get the clicks you wanted? this dr has no clue..

[eball]

There is not much I find more unseemly than doctors selling their opinions based upon nothing more than observations at a distance. 

[RunTheBall]

I’m a doc. Everyone is different when it comes to recovery from any injury. I think Week 1 is a pipe dream unless Tre has had a remarkable recovery and they are comfortable giving him a few reps to start to come back. This staff is appropriately conservative when it comes to recovery from injuries so I’m not concerned at all they will rush him back too quick.

 

 

[K-9]

2 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

Why not the PUP. You get 2 weeks less for IR but it costs a roster spot. Will say that McBeane has shown a willing ness to do that to immediately use IR for some players. 

He’s been on the PUP since camp started and I can’t see them moving him off that to the IR.

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Week 8??  That would put it as an 11 month recovery time?  

 

Yea unless there is a complication we don't know about that is way too long. He will play week 4 at the latest. 

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

He needs those TB12 StemCell/HgH cocktails, Godwin must’ve gotten the hookup bc he’s back in camp after tearing his ACL about a month after White.  Even if Tre’s injury is slightly worse, I can’t see him being out until week 8 since he’s had an entire extra month to recover, while Godwin is already out there running routes.

[Big Blitz]

There is no way he is back before that week 8 game.  

 

He didn't have the surgery until around the 2nd week of December if I remember correctly.

 

You won't see him back before the end of October.    

 

 

That's why we all new CB was going to be that 1st pick.  And Benford is doing well.  Imagine hitting on both those picks.  

[YattaOkasan]

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

He’s been on the PUP since camp started and I can’t see them moving him off that to the IR.

Agree I was responding to a post that said put him on the IR til week 4. PUP is my preference if he’s not good to go because you get a roster spot and allow him to heal a bit longer. 

[BobbyC81]

4 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

I think dr Kyle trimble was more high on him being ready. He’s on joe Marino during season but was on cover 1 recently 

 

 

Did you mean Richard Kimble?

[947]

Chase Young tore his ACL a week before Tre did. Washington announced last week that Young will be out at least a game or 2 in the regular season.

 

Young is about 70lbs heavier than Tre, so maybe that factors into the timeline.

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

There is no way he is back before that week 8 game.  

 

He didn't have the surgery until around the 2nd week of December if I remember correctly.

 

You won't see him back before the end of October.    

 

 

That's why we all new CB was going to be that 1st pick.  And Benford is doing well.  Imagine hitting on both those picks.  

 

Even 10 months is on the long side and as far as we have been told there are no complications it was a clean tear. 9 months is a normal ACL timeline. To me that means Tre fully healthy in terms of not feeling any effects from the injury by week 1. That doesn't mean I expect him to play week 1, I don't, because he then needs 3 or 4 weeks to work himself into football shape. I have said above I expect him on the field week 4 at the latest because I thought the IR rules were still three games... I see the rule has changed this year to 4 games... so I am revising my prediction to week 5 at the latest. But I still think there is a better than average chance that Tre starts the season on the active roster even if he is a gameday inactive for the first couple of games. 

2 hours ago, 947 said:

Chase Young tore his ACL a week before Tre did. Washington announced last week that Young will be out at least a game or 2 in the regular season.

 

Young is about 70lbs heavier than Tre, so maybe that factors into the timeline.

 

That feels the right timeline to me. 

[YoloinOhio]

10 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Yeah, I never expected him back until mid-season. Where did the idea that he could be back week 1 come from? Just the fact that the Bills haven't brought in another vet or was there an actual Tre White update that I missed?

From Brandon Beane and Leslie Frazier 

3 hours ago, 947 said:

Chase Young tore his ACL a week before Tre did. Washington announced last week that Young will be out at least a game or 2 in the regular season.

 

Young is about 70lbs heavier than Tre, so maybe that factors into the timeline.

Chris Godwin tore his after Tre and he’s already cleared and back to practice. Everyone is different. 

8 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

Why not the PUP. You get 2 weeks less for IR but it costs a roster spot. Will say that McBeane has shown a willing ness to do that to immediately use IR for some players. 

PUP is 4 weeks now, not 6

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[Rochesterfan]

10 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

I don’t know how qualified he is to make the analysis, but more than me certainly. He feels that Tre is about 80% back and would recommend they hold him out until after the bye (week 8).

 

I would hope he would be back sooner but definitely care more about him being healthy for the stretch run.

 

Again this is click bait garbage.  Everything points to him being ahead of schedule.

 

Coaches, GM, mouth pieces for the team all talk about week 1 and being on schedule.

 

Media with direct contacts and knowledge are all suggesting week 1

 

Now even ESPN after talking to the team - Fowler is pointing to a return to practice sooner.

 

The latest studies show tons of players getting back in 7-8 months with new surgeries and new recovery/training techniques.

 

Heck Chris Godwin has been cleared already and he tore his ACL several weeks later.

 

I believe Tre has not been cleared yet solely because the Bills are being cautious.  I think based upon everything they have said - he could practice right now, but there is no reason to - give the young guys time to play and bring him in as we go.

 

I would be surprised if he is not activated from PUP and is on the active roster for week 1.  Whether he plays or not will be a decision, but I would not be surprised to see him start and get maybe 10% of the snaps with a week plus off to let him recover.

 

 

4 hours ago, 947 said:

Chase Young tore his ACL a week before Tre did. Washington announced last week that Young will be out at least a game or 2 in the regular season.

 

Young is about 70lbs heavier than Tre, so maybe that factors into the timeline.

 

And Chris Godwin tore his week 15 and is already back and practicing.  
 

 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

I think Tre will be back first week in Oct....But what do I know, I'm just an idiot.

[HOUSE]

Put de lime in de coconut, drink it all up.....put de lime in de coconut

 

Doctor.... 

[YattaOkasan]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

From Brandon Beane and Leslie Frazier 

Chris Godwin tore his after Tre and he’s already cleared and back to practice. Everyone is different. 

PUP is 4 weeks now, not 6

Thanks so no reason to put him on IR?

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, YattaOkasan said:

Thanks so no reason to put him on IR?

Only if you need a roster spot. But then you use up one of the 8 spots where players can return from IR during the season. And if he is on pup, he can be activated and practice as soon as the 4 weeks is up instead of having to cut someone so he can be activated 

[YattaOkasan]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Only if you need a roster spot. But then you use up one of the 8 spots where players can return from IR during the season. And if he is on pup, he can be activated and practice as soon as the 4 weeks is up instead of having to cut someone so he can be activated 

So basically no reason.  I aint mad at it.  Thanks again.  big clarification

[klos63]

12 hours ago, hemma said:

I’d like a 2nd opinion.  

Instead of a thigh doctor, is a knee doctor available?

OK, you're ugly too.

 

>>>>Rodney Dangerfield, before anyone gets upset with me.

[Stank_Nasty]

8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

There is no way he is back before that week 8 game.  

 

He didn't have the surgery until around the 2nd week of December if I remember correctly.

 

You won't see him back before the end of October.    

 

 

That's why we all new CB was going to be that 1st pick.  And Benford is doing well.  Imagine hitting on both those picks.  

I will bet you a large amount of money he’s back WEEKS before week 8. Have you been living under a rock for the last 15-20 years? We’ve seen a ton of players return in a timely manner from these things. 
 

like people in this thread have said. Godwin tore his knee AFTER white and is already practicing. 

[Mr. WEO]

Who was the doctor?  Was it David “The San Diego Butcher” Chao?