Jordan Poyer elbow injury

[Don Otreply]

35 minutes ago, transient said:

Whew. That was a close one...

Ooh, Definitely makes his spleen pucker….

[RyanC883]

5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Its probably insensitive but Damar Hamlin is going to ball out if he has to play. The guy can play.

 

not insensitive.  This is why you need depth and good coaching in the NFL. 

1 hour ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

Good to hear! Count us lucky. Going to need some here and there. 

 

Tim Patrick from Denver not so Lucky. Out for the year

 

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10044160-broncos-tim-patrick-reportedly-diagnosed-with-season-ending-acl-injury.amp.html

 

 

 

 

dammit.  

 

also reason to have fantasy drafts late, IMO.  Sports with contact or quick movements unfortunately have injuries.   

[nemhoff]

6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Well today is a good day to sign him at a discount.

yes....this

[billsbackto81]

They were just talking about this on Schoop and Bulldog yesterday. Sal was saying how impressive the safety depth has looked which didn't bode well for a Poyer extension with others like Edmunds, Knox and Oliver in the wings. Good to know but I'd rather see Jordan ball out if it's to be his last year here.

[BuffaloBill]

He will have plenty of time to negotiate the new deal.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

He will have plenty of time to negotiate the new deal.  

You wonder what happens now though. What if the young safeties ball out in preseason? 

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

They were just talking about this on Schoop and Bulldog yesterday. Sal was saying how impressive the safety depth has looked which didn't bode well for a Poyer extension with others like Edmunds, Knox and Oliver in the wings. Good to know but I'd rather see Jordan ball out if it's to be his last year here.

Seeing as both safeties are post 30, and typically play in every game, we really need to see Jaquan and Hamlin in the preseason to get a sense of what we have there. They must really like them because they didn’t add a single player at the S position in the off-season. However nick McCloud has played some there in TC as well as benford. 

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

You wonder what happens now though. What if the young safeties ball out in preseason? 

A great problem to have. Either we have great depth in case of injury or a great succession plan or both. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

A great problem to have. Either we have great depth in case of injury or a great succession plan or both. 

Complicates a contract though. If Hamlin can play it saves them $12+ million in cap for 2 seasons.

[MasterStrategist]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nope. Johnson got time last week with the 1s. He will be the first guy in. Hamlin has had a nice camp but when they have rotated in with the 1s it has been Jaquan.

Nothing against Jaquan, but Hamlin is a future starter.  He's extremely instinctive, more of a hitter/aggressive style of play and just a perfect fit IMO.  Was shocked he wasn't a late 4th round pick last yr.  

 

I'm local to Pittsburgh, watched him and Dane quite a lot at Pitt.  Knew Dane was a capable, solid player in our scheme.  Just like I am very confident Hamlin would be a solid starter (if called upon).  He's not all pro (at Poyers or Hydes level), but would be very ready to contribute when called upon.  

 

Pitt coverage schemes/safety assignments/etc were not nearly as complex as what we run and disguise.  Hamlin needed a year to learn the scheme,  but think he's passed Jaquan (jmo).  Excited to see him and Jaquan in preseason

[HOUSE]

After reviewing the tape it looks like a hype extension. I will give him a doctors note for 3 weeks off.

[YoloinOhio]

50 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Complicates a contract though. If Hamlin can play it saves them $12+ million in cap for 2 seasons.

That’s why Beane makes the big bucks and there are tough decisions to be made. 

[RangerDave]

7 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

My major concern. I wasn’t concerned with the Hyde injury, but this feels different for multiple reasons. Pain in this general area normally only stems from something serious. Rarely will you have minor issues with visible pain in the elbow area. 

I don't know.  Have you ever hit your funny bone?  It's not very humerous/humurus....

Edited August 3, 2022 by RangerDave

[Milanos Milano]

18 minutes ago, RangerDave said:

I don't know.  Have you ever hit your funny bone?  It's not very humerous/humurus....

Thank goodness it’s only a hyperextended elbow. About the only non serious thing that could exist with such pain symptoms. Just glad it wasn’t ligament issues. We dodged a bullet. 

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Seeing as both safeties are post 30, and typically play in every game, we really need to see Jaquan and Hamlin in the preseason to get a sense of what we have there. They must really like them because they didn’t add a single player at the S position in the off-season. However nick McCloud has played some there in TC as well as benford. 

whispers/rumors over the recent past suggest just that - they love both young guys (especially Hamlin) as eventual starting safeties and benford projects as a longer term convert to safety. 

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

2 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

not insensitive.  This is why you need depth and good coaching in the NFL. 

 

dammit.  

 

also reason to have fantasy drafts late, IMO.  Sports with contact or quick movements unfortunately have injuries.   

We have pretty much decided to do all our fantasy drafts right after preseason.. kinda pushing it but better to know is available! 

[machine gun kelly]

I’ll worry about this in two weeks.  Hyperextended elbows heal.  It’s not an achilles.  That is the one along with neck and back that scares me.  Knees too.  Broken bones, hyper extensions heal and no worries.  Besides as everyone is saying, we have depth.

[GunnerBill]

8 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:

Nothing against Jaquan, but Hamlin is a future starter.  He's extremely instinctive, more of a hitter/aggressive style of play and just a perfect fit IMO.  Was shocked he wasn't a late 4th round pick last yr.  

 

I'm local to Pittsburgh, watched him and Dane quite a lot at Pitt.  Knew Dane was a capable, solid player in our scheme.  Just like I am very confident Hamlin would be a solid starter (if called upon).  He's not all pro (at Poyers or Hydes level), but would be very ready to contribute when called upon.  

 

Pitt coverage schemes/safety assignments/etc were not nearly as complex as what we run and disguise.  Hamlin needed a year to learn the scheme,  but think he's passed Jaquan (jmo).  Excited to see him and Jaquan in preseason

 

I like Hamlin too but the staff have a lot of faith in Jaquan. He is their kind of football player. Hamlin is more physically talented, of that there is little doubt, but Jaquan is smart, knows where to be, does his one 11th and is a good communicator. And he has an NFL start under his belt from last year. That is why I think he has still been the first guy in through camp. 

[Magox]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I like Hamlin too but the staff have a lot of faith in Jaquan. He is their kind of football player. Hamlin is more physically talented, of that there is little doubt, but Jaquan is smart, knows where to be, does his one 11th and is a good communicator. And he has an NFL start under his belt from last year. That is why I think he has still been the first guy in through camp. 

Jaquan is a baller.  Anytime he has been given an opportunity he has made the most of it.   The depth at safety is high quality.

[T master]

Looked pretty painful hope it isn't something to bad but i think we have the depth to cover until he is . 

[YoloinOhio]

36 minutes ago, T master said:

Looked pretty painful hope it isn't something to bad but i think we have the depth to cover until he is . 

It’s a hyperextension 

[Chandler#81]

What does that mean, Dr. Y I Ohio?

 

A hard bump? Chipped bone? Stretched ligaments? Cartilage damage? ‘Funny bone’? 
Recovery time?

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

It’s a hyperextension 

 

[Punching Bag]

22 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

 

 

Sounds like agent talk where they do not want any camps or preseason games "for they are not paid for it".

[Dablitzkrieg]

8 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

What does that mean, Dr. Y I Ohio?

 

A hard bump? Chipped bone? Stretched ligaments? Cartilage damage? ‘Funny bone’? 
Recovery time?

 

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=elbow+hyperextension

[Shaw66]

4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

What does that mean, Dr. Y I Ohio?

 

A hard bump? Chipped bone? Stretched ligaments? Cartilage damage? ‘Funny bone’? 
Recovery time?

 

I think some others have posted some things about it.  Here's one link:  https://www.healthline.com/health/hyperextended-elbow

 

It all depends on the severity of the injury, the damage was done.   The injury occurs when the elbow is bent beyond its normal range of motion.   Treatment could be any or all of the following, depending on severity:

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How is elbow hyperextension treated?

 

Immediately following the injury, place a cold compress on your elbow to help reduce pain and swelling. To make a cold compress, wrap some ice or an ice pack in a cloth. You can also take over-the-counter anti-inflammatory pain relievers, such as aspirin, to help ease swelling and discomfort.

 

Depending on the severity of your injury, your doctor may also prescribe one or more of the following treatments.

 

Rest

 

In the first couple of days following your injury, avoid flexing and extending your elbow as much as possible. This can help it heal. You should also stay away from activities that could cause swelling, such as drinking alcohol or using heating pads on the injured area.

Depending on the severity of your injury, your doctor may advise you to start moving your elbow after a couple of days or recommend a longer period of rest.

 

Ice therapy

 

Wrap ice or an icepack in a cloth and place it on the injured area. Apply this cold compress for 10 to 20 minutes at a time. Do this every few hours for the first few days following your injury. Never apply the ice directly to your skin.

 

Elastic bandage

 

Wrapping an elastic bandage around your injured elbow can help prevent and relieve swelling. It can also help limit your movement, allowing your elbow to heal more easily. To apply an elastic bandage, wrap it around your elbow firmly enough to provide compression, but not so tightly that it causes pain or reduces feeling in your arm or hand.

 

Elbow brace

 

Wearing an elbow brace can also help immobilize your elbow. This can help it heal properly. Your doctor can let you know how long should wear the brace. In some cases, they may encourage you to wear a brace on an ongoing basis when you’re participating in certain activities.

 

Elevation

 

Elevating your elbow above your heart level can help prevent and relieve swelling. This is particularly helpful in the first couple of days after your injury. Consider elevating your elbow on some pillows when you’re lying down or a stack of cushions when you’re sitting. Wearing a sling can also help elevate your elbow.

 

Physical therapy

 

When you can move your elbow again without acute pain, your doctor may advise you to perform some gentle stretches or exercises to help heal it. For example, they might encourage you to perform one or more of the following exercises.

 

Extend your injured arm so it’s parallel to the ground, with your palm facing down. With your other hand, gently press down on the wrist of your injured arm. Resist moving your arm downward in response to this pressure. You should feel a gentle stretch in your forearm and elbow. You can do this stretch sitting down or standing up.

 

Extend your injured arm so it’s parallel to the ground, this time with your palm facing up. With your other hand, gently press the hand of your injured arm down and backward. You should feel a stretch in your elbow and forearm.

 

Bend your injured arm at the elbow, so your upper arm is down at your side and your forearm is extended forward, parallel to the ground. Your palm should face downward. With your other hand, gently press down on the top of the hand of your injured arm. Resist moving your hyperextended elbow down in response to this pressure. Hold for five seconds, then relax. Repeat 10 more times. Do this three times a day. Make sure to keep your elbow by your side the entire time.

 

Surgery

 

In some cases, elbow hyperextension can cause damage to your ligaments, tendons, bones, or other structures of your elbow. Your elbow joint be fractured or severely torn. In this case, you might require surgery to fix the injured area. Follow surgery, you will need to keep your arm immobilized for a few weeks. Then you may need to undergo physical therapy to help restore your elbow function.

 

 

[nucci]

23 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Well today is a good day to sign him at a discount.

why would he sign for a discount?

[BobbyC81]

17 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

 

Sounds like agent talk where they do not want any camps or preseason games "for they are not paid for it".

Has anyone seen Saul Goodman talking to him?

[YoloinOhio]

19 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

What does that mean, Dr. Y I Ohio?

 

A hard bump? Chipped bone? Stretched ligaments? Cartilage damage? ‘Funny bone’? 
Recovery time?

 

I’m not sure exact recovery time but we will see him suit up again week 1 it seems. 

[njbuff]

Poyer been in this system since day one.

 

There is no need for him to suit up in these preseason games, even if he’s healthy.

[machine gun kelly]

This is a lot better than a knee, ankle, back, or neck.  As NJ just pointed out, he’s been in this system for 5 years.  The DC hasn’t changed nor the system.

 

If the reporting of him being back for the Rams is promising.  Think happy thoughts and not worry about it.  We have depth at the Safety and Tre is still looking good as well with the drills he is doing and getting reported by Sal and others.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[C.Biscuit97]

Really sucks for him and I’m glad he didn’t hold out. But this is just another reason not to pay him going forward. It sucks because dude is a baller and made himself into a pro bowler. But with Allen’s contract kicking in, there are going to tough decisions. And given McDermott’s work with d backs, I would bet money this is Jordan’s last year here. 

[Just Jack]

Poyer would rather be in Spain right now

[DasNootz]

Shouldn't we respect his privacy when it comes to medical concerns?  /sarcasm

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, Just Jack said:

Poyer would rather be in Spain right now

 

I'm sure he would LOL

 

 

[Tenhigh]

5 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

I'm sure he would LOL

 

 

If he was wearing a sweated-through suit I'd say it looks like me doing my white guy overbite dance at a wedding. 

[Augie]

9 hours ago, Just Jack said:

Poyer would rather be in Spain right now

 

Me too.