Gabriel Davis getting ready for training camp in Orlando at UCF with Isaiah Hodgins and.......Sammy Watkins?!?!

[BuffaloMatt]

I'd like to hear from Sammy's rib. 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Hopefully Sammy doesn't ruin Gabe by giving him some "vet" tips.

 

Like Gabe doesn't have to work so hard.

 

Sammy: "Gabe, you are practicing too hard.  You need to learn to relax like me.  Its just practice.  Its not even a real game".

 

[Orlando Tim]

8 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I don't think the regime that drafted Watkins placed as much emphasis on attitude, football intelligence etc. as McBeane does.  They looked for physical talent that Watkins has in abundance.  I don't wish ill for Watkins now.  Hopefully, he has gained some in the mental aspect of the game and can salvage what's left of his career.  With Aaron Rodgers as his QB in Green Bay, he has a chance to do some good things this year.  At 29, he could have some good years left in him. 

I til this thread I did not know Sammy was in GB, but at this point either Aaron gets his best and he goes 100 catches and 1200 yards this year or I doubt anyone gives anything resembling every down reciever money again.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Sammy is this close to breaking out y’all little jobs on this thread…

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2015/oct/28/bills-watkins-to-fans-continue-working-yall-little-jobs-for-the-rest-of-yall-lives
 

🥴

[DCofNC]

What you should be scared of is Davis’ 200 yard game being like Sammy’s on vs the Chiefs when he was here.  A one time fluke that he can never repeat.  Watkins certainly has/had more talent and could absolutely destroy D’s when he tried, Davis is basically the guy who was able to step up in one game thus far.  He’s had some big catches, but he’s got a BIG jump to take from a #3 maybe 4 to a real number 2 in this league.  Allen will help, but it’s no given the guy is going to make that leap.  I know people hate me saying it, but this team is thin as far as proven weapons go. Right now, a guy who could only get a 1 year, 4M dollar deal is your most proven guy after Diggs, nobody else has ever done jack for the span of a season.   For everyone that says Davis “came on strong” at the end of the year, realize the guy basically duplicated his rookie year, nothing more.   I think he can step up, but will he? That’s a different thing. 

[Mr. WEO]

someone's gotta keep that whirlpool going...

[extrahammer]

All I know is Davis has been training like a horse this off-season, literally it's the only thing he posts on IG, like every few hours it's him running routes, catching balls, or lifting weights. You can't fake that, I bet he doubles his receiving yards and TD's this year. He's underrated after the catch too. 

[Fan in Chicago]

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

The fact that good teams keep bringing him in speaks to his talent. 
 

🍺

But those same teams don't keep him around for more than a season or two. Which tells us what we need to know about his production but also raises the question about why the next team hires him

[The Wiz]

7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Gabe and Sammy are both big conspiracy theorists.........Sammy thinks dinosaurs didn't exist and Gabe thinks they did but vaccines killed them.

Just let him know it was the 65 million years of social distancing that worked.  🤣

[Bill from NYC]

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Counter point. If EJ was Allen instead, would that trade be so bad without the ability of hindsight? Sammy was one of the best college receiver prospects. He was thought to be can’t miss. The fact that good teams keep bringing him in speaks to his talent. Complete weirdo and made out of glass. 
 

also, hope you’ve been well Bill. 🍺

Your question is valid. Historically, the Bills neglect the OL (especially in the draft) no matter who is the QB, and I am including trading up for a corner in 22. If Allen was the QB I would not have approved of the trade (trading up was too costly) but I would not have been as angry as I was when they drafted Sammy with EJ at the helm. 

I'm good thanks and hope that you and yours are all doing well!  

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

Just let him know it was the 65 million years of social distancing that worked.  🤣

 

Gabe has always had a good plan to practice........even the retired Brandon Marshall was blown away by how advanced the training that Davis was involved in during the work he did with Davis pre-draft.........so the fact that a veteran like Watkins would be interested in some of that is no more damning of him than it was Marshall.

 

And the notion that Sammy was lazy is incorrect.   He was handed the keys to the Bills WR room as a rookie.   He was immature and spoiled and got carried away with that autonomy.   

 

It's important to remember though..........for as polished as Gabe Davis has been..........last season was the first time in his career that Watkins averaged less receiving yards per game in a season than Davis has the past two years.    Davis is an offseason training All Pro but on the field he's been inconsistent and hasn't seized his opportunities in the regular season.    He's certainly had his flashes but he's ultimately still averaged just  36 yards per game in his career.   No excuses this year.

 

If he fails to turn that reputation into production........many of the same people who can't stand my objective viewpoint on his play will be calling him out for his inability to transfer his training to the field week-in and week-out.    Then they will point to his foibles.........like spending 10 hours a day playing video games in the dark.........and yes, his social choices, like being one of a small handful of players who put the Bills 2021 season in jeopardy by refusing to be vaxed. 

 

 

[ColoradoBills]

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

He will probably be running routes out in Sarasota the entire time, playing the decoy. 

[Thurman#1]

11 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Gabe has always had a good plan to practice........even the retired Brandon Marshall was blown away by how advanced the training that Davis was involved in during the work he did with Davis pre-draft.........so the fact that a veteran like Watkins would be interested in some of that is no more damning of him than it was Marshall.

 

And the notion that Sammy was lazy is incorrect.   He was handed the keys to the Bills WR room as a rookie.   He was immature and spoiled and got carried away with that autonomy.   

 

It's important to remember though..........for as polished as Gabe Davis has been..........last season was the first time in his career that Watkins averaged less receiving yards per game in a season than Davis has the past two years.    Davis is an offseason training All Pro but on the field he's been inconsistent and hasn't seized his opportunities in the regular season.    He's certainly had his flashes but he's ultimately still averaged just  36 yards per game in his career.   No excuses this year.

 

If he fails to turn that reputation into production........many of the same people who can't stand my objective viewpoint on his play will be calling him out for his inability to transfer his training to the field week-in and week-out.    Then they will point to his foibles.........like spending 10 hours a day playing video games in the dark.........and yes, his social choices, like being one of a small handful of players who put the Bills 2021 season in jeopardy by refusing to be vaxed. 

 

 

 

 

That Davis hasn't been wildly productive, fair enough.

 

That he hasn't seized his opportunities? Not really. He got less opportunities. Much fewer opportunities last year than he himself had the year before (73% of snaps in 2020, which fell to 51%).

 

And many fewer last year than Watkins has had for most of his career.

 

Davis' yards per snap last year as compared to Watkins'? In Sammy's eight years in the league, he's only had three years where he managed more yards per snap than Davis got last year. None of those three years happened more recently than 2018.

 

Compared to Watkins' career yards per target, Davis has been better in both 2020 and 2021.

 

There's every reason to believe Davis'll see a ton more snaps this year than he has, and likely a lot more targets as well.

 

You seem to think you're saying something interesting when you point out that he needs to be more productive this year. You're not. He's a guy going from his second to his third year expecting a larger role. Pretty much everyone at that juncture needs to be more productive. To your whole thesis here, the best answer would appear to be, "Duh, everyone already knows this." Of course he's still got a lot to prove. Same with most players that young picked where he was.

[Pabstblueribbon]

I'll never forget when "the speed merchant" was chased down from behind on his way to an easy TD because he was finger pistoling into the air. Lol What a time to be a bills fan

[YoloinOhio]

 

[extrahammer]

23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

What did I tell y'all? It's ALL HE DOES! Does it so much he wears bucket hats to squat now. 

[eball]

5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

That Davis hasn't been wildly productive, fair enough.

 

That he hasn't seized his opportunities? Not really. He got less opportunities. Much fewer opportunities last year than he himself had the year before (73% of snaps in 2020, which fell to 51%).

 

And many fewer last year than Watkins has had for most of his career.

 

Davis' yards per snap last year as compared to Watkins'? In Sammy's eight years in the league, he's only had three years where he managed more yards per snap than Davis got last year. None of those three years happened more recently than 2018.

 

Compared to Watkins' career yards per target, Davis has been better in both 2020 and 2021.

 

There's every reason to believe Davis'll see a ton more snaps this year than he has, and likely a lot more targets as well.

 

You seem to think you're saying something interesting when you point out that he needs to be more productive this year. You're not. He's a guy going from his second to his third year expecting a larger role. Pretty much everyone at that juncture needs to be more productive. To your whole thesis here, the best answer would appear to be, "Duh, everyone already knows this." Of course he's still got a lot to prove. Same with most players that young picked where he was.

 

Great response.  And by the way, why are we even comparing Mr. Can't Miss 1st Round Pick to a WR drafted in the 4th round?

 

Gabe Davis is on a great trajectory and there is really nothing that suggests he will not be productive with the expected increase in snaps and targets.

 

[Stank_Nasty]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Dude is grindin. Love it. Thats nice clean work for a long limbed 210lb athlete. So excited to watch his come up this year.

 

Sidenote: As a fitness professional that happens to be the head strength and conditioning coach for a high profile  local high school football program, as well as working with multiple college athletes, i find the internet Bro's in his comments amusing. The dude specifically explains what he's doing at the end of the clip and the twitter bro's still cant help themselves.

Edited July 12, 2022 by Stank_Nasty

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

 

Dude is grindin. Love it. Thats nice clean work for a long limbed 210lb athlete. So excited to watch his come up this year.

 

Sidenote: As a fitness professional that happens to be the head strength and conditioning coach for a high profile  local high school football program, as well as working with multiple college athletes, i find the internet Bro's in his comments amusing. The dude specifically explains what he's doing at the end of the clip and the twitter bro's still cant help themselves.

Got to put your disclaimers at the beginning, a 26 second video is way too long to expect them to watch all the way to the end. 🤦‍♂️

[extrahammer]

9 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

 

Dude is grindin. Love it. Thats nice clean work for a long limbed 210lb athlete. So excited to watch his come up this year.

 

Sidenote: As a fitness professional that happens to be the head strength and conditioning coach for a high profile  local high school football program, as well as working with multiple college athletes, i find the internet Bro's in his comments amusing. The dude specifically explains what he's doing at the end of the clip and the twitter bro's still cant help themselves.

 

He's probably added 10 lbs of size so realistically he's probably closer to 220 or more now. 

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Got to put your disclaimers at the beginning, a 26 second video is way too long to expect them to watch all the way to the end. 🤦‍♂️

LOL! fair enough..... but lets be honest. The guys commenting on it most likely have never even hit parallel themselves anyways 🤣

[John from Riverside]

We need to make sure that we keep enough cap to resign Gabe Davis.....who is gonna blow up this year

[Thurman#1]

That ain't squatting, it's more like half-squatting. As he notes.

 

Still pretty damn impressive.

 

I'm hopeful for him, myself.

 

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by Thurman#1

[Stank_Nasty]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

That ain't squatting, it's more like half-squatting. As he notes.

 

Still pretty damn impressive.

 

I'm hopeful for him, myself.

 

 

It’s a movement directed more at the neural adaptions as opposed to structural adaptations. As you said, he acknowledges what’s going on so I can basically guarantee he also incorporates plenty different deeper movements into his programming. Whether it’s a bar on his back or other variations. 
 

My thoughts on all the comments that follow on Twitter?…. Stay in your lane, boys and girls. 

[BillsShredder83]

Titles wrong... you mean Sammy Watkins and Isiah Hodgins are training with Gabe Davis

[The Wiz]

I've read this thread title like 30 times and this time I read he was training "for UFC" not "at UCF" for some reason and thought I had been wrong the first 30 times. 

[Special K]

43 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

I've read this thread title like 30 times and this time I read he was training "for UFC" not "at UCF" for some reason and thought I had been wrong the first 30 times. 

 

2 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Titles wrong... you mean Sammy Watkins and Isiah Hodgins are training with Gabe Davis

 

LOL..... I thought the title was wordy enough, but to be completely accurate, it should have been:

 

Gabe Davis getting ready for Bills training camp by training at UCF in Orlando.....Isaiah Hodgins and Sammy Watkins training with him.

 

Is that better??🙂

[Buffalo716]

Everybody who is trashing watkins doesn’t understand the mindset of certain elite athletes 

 

He isn’t the first or last Big-time athlete to not have any work ethic

 

Athletically he was Gods gift…. Great frame, strength , speed , hand eye coordination 

 

Five-star recruit and one of the only true freshman all Americans ever… Nothing was ever hard for him

 

When nothings ever hard for you , Sometimes you struggle to create a work ethic.. in times of struggle 

 

Because you never knew struggle

 

Sammy is the case of an elite athlete where everything was easy and he never had to work for anything athletically… By the time he had to work for something in the NFL his work ethic was set in stone

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by Buffalo716

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Everybody who is trashing watkins doesn’t understand the mindset of certain elite athletes 

 

 

 

I think we understand.  That is why he is getting trashed.  Because of his lazy, attitude and the fact that he thought he was good enough to coast.  

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

I think we understand.  That is why he is getting trashed.  Because of his lazy, attitude and the fact that he thought he was good enough to coast.  

He’s not the first or last professional athlete to do that

 

Don’t take it personal 

 

The Bills moved on fairly quick and we are in a great position 

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by Buffalo716

[Don Otreply]

On 7/12/2022 at 6:40 AM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

That Davis hasn't been wildly productive, fair enough.

 

That he hasn't seized his opportunities? Not really. He got less opportunities. Much fewer opportunities last year than he himself had the year before (73% of snaps in 2020, which fell to 51%).

 

And many fewer last year than Watkins has had for most of his career.

 

Davis' yards per snap last year as compared to Watkins'? In Sammy's eight years in the league, he's only had three years where he managed more yards per snap than Davis got last year. None of those three years happened more recently than 2018.

 

Compared to Watkins' career yards per target, Davis has been better in both 2020 and 2021.

 

There's every reason to believe Davis'll see a ton more snaps this year than he has, and likely a lot more targets as well.

 

You seem to think you're saying something interesting when you point out that he needs to be more productive this year. You're not. He's a guy going from his second to his third year expecting a larger role. Pretty much everyone at that juncture needs to be more productive. To your whole thesis here, the best answer would appear to be, "Duh, everyone already knows this." Of course he's still got a lot to prove. Same with most players that young picked where he was.

Folk should check out Joe Marino’s pod show, “locked on Bills”  on Davis and his performance numbers, he goes a bit deeper than our resident “we are doomed” guys go.  Gabe is seriously primed to put up quality #2 WR numbers this season.

 

Go  Bills!!!

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

28 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

He’s not the first or last professional athlete to do that

 

Don’t take it personal 

 

The Bills moved on fairly quick and we are in a great position 

 

I realize he is not the first or last professional athlete to do that.  Do you think anyone was unaware of that?

 

I'm not taking it personal.  This is a Bills forum where we talk about stuff like this.

 

[JohnNord]

On 7/10/2022 at 11:57 PM, Special K said:

I looked everywhere to find a clip of the local news report that interviewed Davis as he prepares for the upcoming season, but couldn't find it, but I wanted to share because something very eye opening was said by Sammy Watkins in the interview.

 

First, they talked to Davis....he said he is aware that the Bills are expecting him to step up into the number 2 receiver position, and he is ready for the challenge...said he is putting in the extra work to justify the faith the coaching staff has placed in him.....loves to practice in the 95 degree heat and 70 percent humidity of Florida, because if you can train through that, you will be ready for anything the season throws your way.....Great stuff from a guy who we all know is a self-motivated, hard working McBeane type of player.

 

Then we get to Sammy Watkins🙄🙄.......Watkins says he can learn a lot from a guy like Davis in terms of training to get ready for a football season even though Gabe Davis is a younger player than he is....he added: Coming into the league, I never really knew how to train to get ready for the season...learning some of the training routines Davis goes through will really help me going forward this season and in the future......WTF!!!!!

 

This just goes to show how pathetic the previous regime was, if we didn't know already.....trading up to number 4 to draft a guy who has no idea how to get ready for a football season??? Then, having him here for a few years, and still not teaching him anything about how to prepare your body and mind for the rigors of an NFL season??? No wonder he was hurt all of the time....I guess thats why McBeane couldn't wait to get rid of that clown!!

 

I'm so glad we have guys like Davis and Diggs in the Bills WR corps over a loser like Watkins!

 

Can't wait to see how well Davis is going to do this year as WR2!!

 

Go Bills!!

 

The fact that Sammy was out drinking and doing drugs probably didn’t help his cause in Buffalo either.   Eric Ciano was there in 2014, so this is just Sammy trying to make more excuses for his meh career.  
 

I am wondering if he is trying to blame the team trainer.  IIRC Marrone wanted to get rid of Bud Carpenter was vetoed by Russ due to his relationship with Ralph and the old regime.  He “retired” shortly after McDermott took and they fired his assistant trainer. 

[Nelius]

Sammy's an incredibly weird dude and I am extremely happy that he is not a Buffalo Bill, but the fact that he's learned to train for the first time in nearly a decade and is one of the only experienced receivers playing with Rodgers could mean that he might actually have a decent year this year, as painful as it may be for most to admit.

 

He's also made $70M and counting and has a ring, but most, myself included, would consider him to be a tremendous disappointment. One of the strangest careers I've ever seen, I half hope he has the best year of his career just so it gets more bizarre.

[Patrick Duffy]

19 minutes ago, Nelius said:

Sammy's an incredibly weird dude and I am extremely happy that he is not a Buffalo Bill, but the fact that he's learned to train for the first time in nearly a decade and is one of the only experienced receivers playing with Rodgers could mean that he might actually have a decent year this year, as painful as it may be for most to admit.

 

He's also made $70M and counting and has a ring, but most, myself included, would consider him to be a tremendous disappointment. One of the strangest careers I've ever seen, I half hope he has the best year of his career just so it gets more bizarre.

 

Chances are probably better he has another foot situation or some kind of injury early part of season than that happening

[BADOLBILZ]

30 minutes ago, Nelius said:

Sammy's an incredibly weird dude and I am extremely happy that he is not a Buffalo Bill, but the fact that he's learned to train for the first time in nearly a decade and is one of the only experienced receivers playing with Rodgers could mean that he might actually have a decent year this year, as painful as it may be for most to admit.

 

He's also made $70M and counting and has a ring, but most, myself included, would consider him to be a tremendous disappointment. One of the strangest careers I've ever seen, I half hope he has the best year of his career just so it gets more bizarre.

 

 

Not only does he have a ring..........he basically ended the productive portion of future HOF'er Richard Sherman's career in that SB win.    Sherman was named All Pro that season.   Watkins torched him and "Sherm" was never a good CB again.    He had a big game and his big catch late at Sherman's expense sealed that SB win.

 

Watkins is a disappointment and an enigma but he's been a stud in a couple AFC Championship games and a SB.   He's not intelligent or perceptive and he's ultimately responsible for his own career stalling but the Bills were very stupid to not have a veteran in the room his rookie year.  Bob Woods and Chris Hogan weren't anyone he was going to listen to.  Anquan Boldin was the perfect guy to mentor Watkins........it just should have happened 3 years sooner.

[Santiago Hayes]

On 7/11/2022 at 5:33 PM, Mango said:

 

I have googled and watched a ton of videos for this. There are tons and tons of links and videos. But the line you are coming up with doesn't exist. I cannot find anything other than Sammy saying working with Gabe has been great, even though he is young he thinks Davis could be a special receiver and they are all learning from each other.

 

Based on the tone of everything I have read and listened to, I have to imagine you are conflating that Sammy said he had no idea how to prepare for the NFL for the last decade with "Gabe is ahead of the curve from when I came into the league. I didn't know shirt". 

Relax a little man. 

https://www.si.com/college/ucf/university-of-central-florida-football/gabriel-davis-brings-nfl-players-ucf

 

After a long search on the Internet, I found some information about it. I think it would be better if writix.com/pay-for-essay could help me learn. I have contacted here many times and it has helped me tremendously.  

Thank you, that's very interesting

Edited August 29, 2022 by Santiago Hayes