Kollmann film room on Khalil Shakir

[LEBills]

Really nice that he starts the video off by providing info to help our community after last week

 

The video itself is well though out and reasoned as all Brett’s videos are. Fun watch as we wait for football to get back

 

 

[beerme1]

Really liking this pick. This was an excellent video. Thanks for posting. I heard an interview with him and think he is going to fit like a glove here.

[Doc]

Punt and kick returner to start.

[Watkins101]

Lost a lot of credibility when he said McKenzie didn’t have special team ability 

[beerme1]

6 minutes ago, Watkins101 said:

Lost a lot of credibility when he said McKenzie didn’t have special team ability 

 

Not sure about that. McKenzie did lose return duties twice I think. Love lil dirty but he was shaky at best for returns last year I think and McD clearly lost confidence in him and when he put him back in it was a struggle. 

[LeGOATski]

40 minutes ago, Watkins101 said:

Lost a lot of credibility when he said McKenzie didn’t have special team ability 

McKenzie has seemingly lost the confidence of the coaching staff in his return abilities. If he's not going to be a returner, then he has no other special team ability.

[Logic]

Incredibly excited about this pick.

It's not just Bills fans that think Shakir was a steal. Lots and lots of analysts have agreed, and Beane said that several GMs were pissed at him for taking Shakir before they could.

Like Kollman, I have no idea how this guy fell to the fifth round.

While he'll likely be a WR4 in 2022 -- which, in and of itself, is a great insurance policy, as he'll be a viable backup for all three WR spots -- I definitely see him supplanting Crowder in 2023 and becoming the full time slot receiver from then on. As Kollman said, his versatility and run-after-catch ability will simply be too hard to keep off the field.

Now I'm just hoping I can snag him in round 3 of my dynasty rookie draft before my league-mates catch on to what a steal he'll be.

[White Linen]

The interview he did with Howard and Jeremy on GR was impressive.   What a seemingly fantastic young man with an incredibly focused attitude.   I have a feeling we found a real gem in this kid.

[Richard Noggin]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

McKenzie has seemingly lost the confidence of the coaching staff in his return abilities. If he's not going to be a returner, then he has no other special team ability.

This is an intriguing question entering 2022: who are the returner candidates, exactly?

 

We know Hyde is the guy for when McD's backside gets a bit clenched in the bad weather or the big moments after someone else muffs it. He's the steady, no drama punt "catcher." But who are the ACTUAL candidates? 

 

Obviously Stevenson will get a look, although we can mostly agree his rookie audition was rough. McKenzie IS a dangerous returner, no doubt, but he's a bit dangerous for BOTH teams, unfortunately. Could take one to the house (if it isn't called back), and could just as likely throw up all over himself. Does more experience, more time refining his craft even-out some of those unforced errors? 

 

Who are the less obvious candidates? Hasn't Shakir seen some action as a returner? That seems right, and probably ideal if he can contribute there early on. Do Cook or Elam have any return experience? I like to pose questions to which I do NOT have the answers, by the way. I know some of you still awake have some answers or at least ideas.

[beerme1]

11 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

This is an intriguing question entering 2022: who are the returner candidates, exactly?

 

We know Hyde is the guy for when McD's backside gets a bit clenched in the bad weather or the big moments after someone else muffs it. He's the steady, no drama punt "catcher." But who are the ACTUAL candidates? 

 

Obviously Stevenson will get a look, although we can mostly agree his rookie audition was rough. McKenzie IS a dangerous returner, no doubt, but he's a bit dangerous for BOTH teams, unfortunately. Could take one to the house (if it isn't called back), and could just as likely throw up all over himself. Does more experience, more time refining his craft even-out some of those unforced errors? 

 

Who are the less obvious candidates? Hasn't Shakir seen some action as a returner? That seems right, and probably ideal if he can contribute there early on. Do Cook or Elam have any return experience? I like to pose questions to which I do NOT have the answers, by the way. I know some of you still awake have some answers or at least ideas.

 

Well, as I am still awake and will be maybe, for while yet, I would say, watch the video.

[Logic]

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12 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

This is an intriguing question entering 2022: who are the returner candidates, exactly?

 

We know Hyde is the guy for when McD's backside gets a bit clenched in the bad weather or the big moments after someone else muffs it. He's the steady, no drama punt "catcher." But who are the ACTUAL candidates? 

 

Obviously Stevenson will get a look, although we can mostly agree his rookie audition was rough. McKenzie IS a dangerous returner, no doubt, but he's a bit dangerous for BOTH teams, unfortunately. Could take one to the house (if it isn't called back), and could just as likely throw up all over himself. Does more experience, more time refining his craft even-out some of those unforced errors? 

 

Who are the less obvious candidates? Hasn't Shakir seen some action as a returner? That seems right, and probably ideal if he can contribute there early on. Do Cook or Elam have any return experience? I like to pose questions to which I do NOT have the answers, by the way. I know some of you still awake have some answers or at least ideas.

 

I think it’s Shakir vs Stevenson vs McKenzie. I don’t see any other viable candidates on the roster. Unless they bring in a veteran or one of the UDFAs steps up, that’s who I see in the return competition.

 

Honestly, I’m surprised they didn’t bring in a more viable returner after the way last season went. Maybe they’re hoping Stevenson steps up. In all of Beane’s discussions of Shakir in interviews, I haven’t actually heard him mention Shakir being a candidate for the returner role.

Edited May 22, 2022 by Logic

[beerme1]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

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I think it’s Shakir vs Stevenson vs McKenzie. I don’t see any other viable candidates on the roster. Unless they bring in a veteran or one of the UDFAs steps up, that’s who I see in the return competition.

 

Honestly, I’m surprised they didn’t bring in a more viable returner after the way last season went. Maybe they’re hoping Stevenson steps up. In all of Beane’s discussions of Shakir in interviews, I haven’t actually heard him mention Shakir being a candidate for the returner role.

 

 

And while Shakir has done it, it was not a regular gig for him.

[Rocky Landing]

3 hours ago, Watkins101 said:

Lost a lot of credibility when he said McKenzie didn’t have special team ability 

Perhaps there is a point to be made that McKenzie lost his P/KR role. But, to suggest that McKenzie isn't versatile is just ludicrous.

[TBBills]

IMO He is a Gabe Davis "type", one who is more ready than his draft position would suggest.  Let's see what happens in camp but the guy has a big chance to be in the starting lineup come Sept. 

Edited May 22, 2022 by TBBills

[GunnerBill]

21 minutes ago, TBBills said:

IMO He is a Gabe Davis "type", one who is more ready than his draft position would suggest.  Let's see what happens in camp but the guy has a big chance to be in the starting lineup come Sept. 

 

I agree he is more ready than the 5th round would suggest. I had a high 3rd on Gabe it is more a late 3rd on Shakir but I'd argue Shakir is even higher floor. I am not sure he will come out of camp our starting slot (though it is not impossible) but by the end of the season I expect him to be. 

[BuffaloBill]

It’s interesting to see that a fifth round pick is getting so much attention.  It goes back to #17. If JA is not running this offense and he fails to gun the ball all over the field, this kid just falls on the NFL depth chart.

 

Josh Allen makes Shakir a weapon. Shakir in return helps Josh with yet another option on the field.

 

[Rico]

I’m not going to get too excited right now about a 5th-round draft pick, but I am looking forward to see what he does this pre-season.

[Chandler#81]

9 hours ago, Watkins101 said:

Lost a lot of credibility when he said McKenzie didn’t have special team ability 

daHell you talkin’ about? Dirty is a ST liability.

OP, thanks for the thread and insight. More excited about Shakir now!

[BearNorth]

Shakir is also an insurance policy if Gabe were to go down with injury or becomes too expensive when he hits free agency [e.g. Tyreek Hill].  I think with Josh's big contract, that drafting will become super important as it will give the team (over the 4 years they control the draftees) 15-20 cost controlled regulars.

[Paul Costa]

I’d like Manny Sanders to come back on a team friendly contract. He & Gabe switch roles from last year. Give Manny half the work from last year. I think he’ll be more effective and last the whole year. Less is more kinda sort of . 

[TampaBillsJunkie]

Great video. This makes me love our draft even more.  We ha.ve so much versatility on offense to take the pressure off Josh and we gained even more versatility on Defense with Elam and Bernard.  

[Chandler#81]

36 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:

I’d like Manny Sanders to come back on a team friendly contract. He & Gabe switch roles from last year. Give Manny half the work from last year. I think he’ll be more effective and last the whole year. Less is more kinda sort of . 

I’d like to Manny back as well, but I think he’s made his decision to walk away.

[CSBill]

Love this pick, I think (I hope) he will end up being the steal of the draft. I see a lot of Stefon Digg's like qualities in him.

[Paul Costa]

45 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I’d like to Manny back as well, but I think he’s made his decision to walk away.

I haven’t seen anything definitive on that but could have easily missed it. A competitor like MS is going to get the itch to come back with this team. And finish a SB Champion 😁

[NewEra]

9 hours ago, Logic said:

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I think it’s Shakir vs Stevenson vs McKenzie. I don’t see any other viable candidates on the roster. Unless they bring in a veteran or one of the UDFAs steps up, that’s who I see in the return competition.

 

Honestly, I’m surprised they didn’t bring in a more viable returner after the way last season went. Maybe they’re hoping Stevenson steps up. In all of Beane’s discussions of Shakir in interviews, I haven’t actually heard him mention Shakir being a candidate for the returner role.

It’s pretty crazy huh?  Considering all the money and effort they put towards ST…. We completely ignore the returner every season.  It’s baffling imo

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, BearNorth said:

Shakir is also an insurance policy if Gabe were to go down with injury or becomes too expensive when he hits free agency [e.g. Tyreek Hill].  I think with Josh's big contract, that drafting will become super important as it will give the team (over the 4 years they control the draftees) 15-20 cost controlled regulars.

I think he’s more likely Crowders replacement next year or after he gets hurt this year.  If Davis leaves after 2 more seasons (which is VERY possible considering the contract he might command), I hope that we would have drafted a WR in rd 1 of the 22 or 23 draft.  

[freddyjj]

33 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:

I haven’t seen anything definitive on that but could have easily missed it. A competitor like MS is going to get the itch to come back with this team. And finish a SB Champion 😁

Emmanuel Sanders reportedly told Josh Allen his knees are shot so unlikely he plays again. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

4 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Emmanuel Sanders reportedly told Josh Allen his knees are shot so unlikely he plays again. 

His stats as last season wore on would support that.  I don’t see how they’d fit him onto the roster, at this point.

[Logic]

4 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Emmanuel Sanders reportedly told Josh Allen his knees are shot so unlikely he plays again. 

Ive been saying this: the Bills have outstanding slot depth but are shallow on the outside. Shakir CAN play out there, but counting on a 5th round rookie to replace a Diggs or a Davis is asking a lot.

 

SO…

 

Unless they really have faith in Stevenson or Hodgins stepping up, they ought to be looking at bringing in a veteran outside Wr. One with a bit of speed would be nice.

 

I can’t help but wonder if TY Hilton would be willing to take a cheap deal for a shot at a title.

[Punching Bag]

44 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:

I haven’t seen anything definitive on that but could have easily missed it. A competitor like MS is going to get the itch to come back with this team. And finish a SB Champion 😁

 

10 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Emmanuel Sanders reportedly told Josh Allen his knees are shot so unlikely he plays again. 

 

Best thing to do is bring him in to be on practice squad and elevate him for 2 games a year and maybe playoffs to give them veteran presence Coach McD likes.  

[Ayjent]

10 hours ago, Logic said:

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I think it’s Shakir vs Stevenson vs McKenzie. I don’t see any other viable candidates on the roster. Unless they bring in a veteran or one of the UDFAs steps up, that’s who I see in the return competition.

 

Honestly, I’m surprised they didn’t bring in a more viable returner after the way last season went. Maybe they’re hoping Stevenson steps up. In all of Beane’s discussions of Shakir in interviews, I haven’t actually heard him mention Shakir being a candidate for the returner role.

Stevenson's going to have to transform himself like I've never seen a player transform to be a viable NFL return man.  He runs too straight up.  He's not elusive.  He takes a ton of hard shots that are going to result in turnovers and/or injuries.  I doubt Stevenson makes the team unless he shows up big time.

 

Linked Video is a good breakdown of why Cook and Shakir were picked by the Bills - RAC ability and creating match-up issues all over the field.  Shakir looks like someone they want to groom into a swiss army knife slot receiver to be the No. 3 eventually with Diggs and Davis.  I think it will be slot by committee this year but its Shakir's role to win.

Edited May 22, 2022 by Ayjent

[Sierra Foothills]

 

OP, Thanks for posting the link.

 

10 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

This is an intriguing question entering 2022: who are the returner candidates, exactly?

Obviously Stevenson will get a look, although we can mostly agree his rookie audition was rough. McKenzie IS a dangerous returner, no doubt, but he's a bit dangerous for BOTH teams, unfortunately. 

Hasn't Shakir seen some action as a returner? Do Cook or Elam have any return experience?

 

During college Shakir returned 7 kickoffs for 167 yards (23.9 per) and 24 punts for 180 yards (7.5 yards per).

 

Last year was his best year as a returner with 2 kickoffs for 57 yards (28.5 per) and 9 punts for 115 yards (12.8).

 

https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/khalil-shakir-player-stats?category=returning&seasonType=reg

 

Edited May 22, 2022 by Sierra Foothills

[Chandler#81]

4 hours ago, Paul Costa said:

I haven’t seen anything definitive on that but could have easily missed it. A competitor like MS is going to get the itch to come back with this team. And finish a SB Champion 😁

He mentioned he was courted to return when he guested on GMFB a few weeks ago, but quickly followed up with ‘my aching knees..’

[Putin]

16 hours ago, White Linen said:

The interview he did with Howard and Jeremy on GR was impressive.   What a seemingly fantastic young man with an incredibly focused attitude.   I have a feeling we found a real gem in this kid.

Yes it’s unbelievable that he made it to the 5th round but then again so did Diggs ..

We found a gem in the 4th round with Davis hopefully we found another with Shakir !!! 

Edited May 22, 2022 by Putin

[Buffalo716]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

It’s pretty crazy huh?  Considering all the money and effort they put towards ST…. We completely ignore the returner every season.  It’s baffling imo

We literally had all pro Andre Roberts two years ago 

[RobbRiddick]

Diet Deebo is such a great name

[Shake_My_Head]

17 hours ago, Watkins101 said:

Lost a lot of credibility when he said McKenzie didn’t have special team ability 

IDK.   McKenzie's fumbled away his ST duties a couple of times now.

[Solomon Grundy]

Nice breakdown, but I stayed for the cocktail recipe 😎

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Nice breakdown, but I stayed for the cocktail recipe 😎

 

 

OK, it’s been an hour. How many and how ya doin’?   😋

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

We literally had all pro Andre Roberts two years ago 

Sorry…..I should’ve said the last 2 offseasons.  I find it strange that we’ve neglected it this offseason after our struggles with it last season. Don’t you?