Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, Simon said: If he starts to, I hope somebody slaps some tape over his mouth. LOL just asking @YoloinOhio to clarify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yeah, in terms of “needs” I’m un-enthused so far. But we’ll see. Good thing the draft isn't "supposed" to be about immediate needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I think it's fair to have an opinion. Boogie basham over Humphries. Epenasa over dobbins. I know it's early, but are you satisfied with those selections so far? Basham will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 And I thought I wouldn't need to blow my brains out during this draft, I was wrong. Should've done it before 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I am not saying that Marino or cover 1 is wrong (or right) on the pick. My comment was more general— I don’t care for Marino generally, at least compared to the cover 1 guys. The cover 1 analysis is just generally more deep and data and film driven. Data, probably. Film, no. Listen to their collaborative mock draft podcast. The guys from Cover 1 are well aware that Marino knows more about draft prospects. And I'm not saying that as someone who prefers Marino. I like all of them. I think Cover 1's strength is more towards evaluating the pro game and Marino's strength is the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: It’s more of a case of was he the best choice? Doesn’t feel like it. I'll be honest, i hate the word but feel it was a reach. But could care less. If the dude ends up being a baller, great. If not, what can you do. This isn't picking Troup over Gronkowski. No worries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just one of those seemingly obscure picks that sometimes pay off...good scouting and communication! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Good thing the draft isn't "supposed" to be about immediate needs. Yeah yeah everybody says “best player available” but practically speaking, I don’t see how any team could do that. They grade the guys, they’ll typically have several guys with similar grades at different positions and then yes, of course, need factors into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 After Elam and Cook, there’s no other positions where a draft pick will come in and make any meaningful impact this season. This might be the deepest roster in the league and Bills are picking late every round, this kid along with the remaining picks are being obtained with traits and grooming in mind. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 50 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Tre was a consensus 1st rounder. This guy is an undersized LB that will be lucky to replace Matakevich. I'm sure McBeane and their staff have no plan for him at all besides "maybe replace Matakevich" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 J.T. Woods, would've been a better pick from Baylor, his size and speed could of accomplished the same thing. I guess thats why I'm just sitting in a chair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, julian said: After Elam and Cook, there’s no other positions where a draft pick will come in and make any meaningful impact this season. This might be the deepest roster in the league and Bills are picking late every round, this kid along with the remaining picks are being obtained with traits and grooming in mind. Think a WR might have been beneficial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: They went from top 5 WR group to in 2020 to middle of the pack as it stands now IMO. Does that include pass catching TE's and RB's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) I believe your assumption is incorrect. Look at Daniel Jones as evidence. Drafting isn't an exact science but generally speaking teams boards are probably closer than we think. Many evaluators and so called experts also are good at what they do. In this case, I think it's Beane trying to show everyone how he's much smarter he is than everyone else. No doubt he is an intelligent football man. Hope he's right! For now, I think it's a poor pick. Edited April 30, 2022 by newcam2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, ScorpionZero said: J.T. Woods, would've been a better pick from Baylor, his size and speed could of accomplished the same thing. I guess thats why I'm just sitting in a chair. Plus Woods went at 79. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: They went from top 5 WR group to in 2020 to middle of the pack as it stands now IMO. Diggs-Davis-Crowder with McKenzie as a gadget guy is a good group, but A) some people here don’t seem to acknowledge how many good WR rooms there are in the NFL, and B) Unless they are high on Stevenson or Hodgins, our outside WR depth being Kumerow is…alarming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I think most draft experts mocked him to go low cause they saw him as an extremely undersized LBer... however i think NFL teams viewed him differently and saw him as a big nickle who could cover TEs in todays game... so i definitely think this kid would have went earlier than expected. He is our Kyle Dugger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 57 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: pfffftt who the heck is Joe Marino anyway I assume he is some sports paparazzi, who certain posters look to in order to know if they are supposed to be outraged or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, julian said: After Elam and Cook, there’s no other positions where a draft pick will come in and make any meaningful impact this season. This might be the deepest roster in the league and Bills are picking late every round, this kid along with the remaining picks are being obtained with traits and grooming in mind. Oh, SURE. Be reasonable why don't you. 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: Plus Woods went at 79. Oh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, julian said: After Elam and Cook, there’s no other positions where a draft pick will come in and make any meaningful impact this season. This might be the deepest roster in the league and Bills are picking late every round, this kid along with the remaining picks are being obtained with traits and grooming in mind. The OL has multiple question marks. Brown wasn't that great at RT. Saffold is old. Morse had a nice bounce back year but has mostly been average. No depth at OT. Ford is a bust. Boettger wasn't good before the injury. They should have drafted OL before RB and certainly before undersized LB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsCuse said: I'm sure McBeane and their staff have no plan for him at all besides "maybe replace Matakevich" That’s a valuable thing to do. Saves a lot of valuable cap space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: J.T. Woods, would've been a better pick from Baylor, his size and speed could of accomplished the same thing. I guess thats why I'm just sitting in a chair. Are you taking him from another roster? - he was already picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Did he wear #2 or #26 or both? So….Confused Looks like 26. Or possibly both lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, BruceVilanch said: Love it it!!!! Well done Brandt No pressure. Now we have to live up to the hype, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: The OL has multiple question marks. Brown wasn't that great at RT. Saffold is old. Morse had a nice bounce back year but has mostly been average. No depth at OT. Ford is a bust. Boettger wasn't good before the injury. They should have drafted OL before RB and certainly before undersized LB. I was pleased with a RB selection but thought it should have been OL after Edited April 30, 2022 by london_bills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Would have preferred Parham, Kinnard, Woolen, Cross or even Araiza. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 What Beane thinks of our Mock Drafts: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: I guess that's why I sit in a chair all day, and they get paid millions of dollars. I could do it for a year or 2, get fired and retire. I don't need much, live like a king. It is like profiling the kid! There is our man! Let's coach him up and he will be custom made for the role! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: J.T. Woods, would've been a better pick from Baylor, his size and speed could of accomplished the same thing. I guess thats why I'm just sitting in a chair. Same thing with Trayvon Walker as he seemed to have better size and speed than Bernard but in Beane we trust. Edited April 30, 2022 by Doc Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) The more I read about this guy, the more I like the pick. Gentlemen, THIS is the future of the league, the response to these high-flying offenses that we are seeing more and more. You wanna combat Deebo Samuel on end arounds? Tyreek Hill on slants? Wanna send a blitzer to take on Justin Herbert and Zach Wilson? Get a wicked fast, penetrating hybrid linebacker like this. ZERO touchdowns allowed in 983 career coverage snaps, per PFF!! Add in Bernard's apparent leadership skills and place on a very good Baylor defense and I'm on board with this. Edited April 30, 2022 by BillsEnthusiast 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: The OL has multiple question marks. Brown wasn't that great at RT. Saffold is old. Morse had a nice bounce back year but has mostly been average. No depth at OT. Ford is a bust. Boettger wasn't good before the injury. They should have drafted OL before RB and certainly before undersized LB. I really like what Beane did with the O line for not much money and without relying on blue chip draft picks (who wouldn't have been there when the Bills picked). Compare 2022 to 2021 - add Bates (in what should be an important role somewhere), Saffold, Quesenberry (I think he'll beat out Brown for the starting job), and reduce/eliminate the need for replacement level players like Feliciano, Boettger, Williams. Not to mention moving on from the horrific Ford. If Morse had retired we'd have a hole to fill. We don't. t's a substantial upgrade overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I wonder what McVay thought of the pick. 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Seems like draft people are 50/50 split on this pick. He just wasn't on a lot of fans’ radars it seems. I trust these guys though and this guy gives us some depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: The more I read about this guy, the more I like the pick. Gentlemen, THIS is the future of the league, the response to these high-flying offenses that we are seeing more and more. You wanna combat Deebo Samuel on end arounds? Tyreek Hill on slants? Wanna send a blitzer to take on Justin Herbert and Zach Wilson? Get a wicked fast, penetrating hybrid linebacker like this. Add in Bernard's apparent leadership skills and place on a very good Baylor defense and I'm on board with this. I should say I'm sorry, because I've never been a beat down guy until I've done my due diligence. So until I study him the best I can, I will reserve judgement. My earlier responses were uncalled for. Get back soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Looks like 26. Or possibly both lol I was confused by this too. Thought the highlights were of two different guys who were both fast as *****. But looks like he's both. If you google image search his name, he's wearing 26 and 2 at different times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: Now it doesn't, WTF. Someone's getting punched. I’m interested if you had this guy in any of your 1000 mock drafts… even in the 7th…? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, Aussie Joe said: I’m interested if you had this guy in any of your 1000 mock drafts… even in the 7th…? Lmfao, if I did. Don't tell anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The more I read about this guy, the more I like the pick. Gentlemen, THIS is the future of the league, the response to these high-flying offenses that we are seeing more and more. You wanna combat Deebo Samuel on end arounds? Tyreek Hill on slants? Wanna send a blitzer to take on Justin Herbert and Zach Wilson? Get a wicked fast, penetrating hybrid linebacker like this. Add in Bernard's apparent leadership skills and place on a very good Baylor defense and I'm on board with this. Watched the 3 or 4 YouTube videos I could find on him... Kid just sifts through traffic to make the play. And he absolutely fires his gun when he sees a play develop/sees a QB who's vulnerable. Remember the KC game when NO ONE on defense could bring down Mahomes? Maybe that's where Bernard fits in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yeah yeah everybody says “best player available” but practically speaking, I don’t see how any team could do that. They grade the guys, they’ll typically have several guys with similar grades at different positions and then yes, of course, need factors into it. Of course. The scare quotes are me absolutely seeing Beane draft for need in the first round, and only thereafter living the need-less principles of BPA, except...not really, most of the time. *Basham is the obvious counterpoint that comes to mind. I'm not immediately seeing others. Edited April 30, 2022 by Richard Noggin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, junior said: Watched the 3 or 4 YouTube videos I could find on him... Kid just sifts through traffic to make the play. And he absolutely fires his gun when he sees a play develop/sees a QB who's vulnerable. Remember the KC game when NO ONE on defense could bring down Mahomes? Maybe that's where Bernard fits in. Which is what I keep saying here - we so desperately needed speed on the defense. It was apparent the moment Addison couldn't bring down Kyler during the Hail Murray game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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