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4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Immediately after the draft-

 

- I was upset that they passed on 3 corners I had rated higher than him.  

 

- I didn’t understand why they drafted a corner that excels in press man.

 

- I didn’t understand why they drafted the worst tackling corner of the 3 available.  
 

- I HATED the fact that they traded our best trade up chip to move up several spots in rd 2-3 so we can move ahead of one team in rd 1…..while there were better corners available.  

 

Slept, woke up-  new rationale 

 

-  Elam has the measurable they covet and whether or not I had him as the best corner available, Elam was the last 1st rd talent available on their board.  McB > Me

 

- I’m happy that we drafted a corner than excels in man.  Levi had a solid season but his inability to run with the faster WRs limited our play calling and his lack of speed eventually led to our season ending.   I’ve been hoping that they would switch things up more often and play more man.  I think this will lead to exactly that.  He’s very good in coverage but susceptible to getting beat deep…. something that McDs defense are usually not susceptible to.  Our safeties will help him over the top. 
 

- still not a fan of his tackling, but he’s physically strong and our coaches will coach him up.  He’ll get better.  We have the proper support system for him.  
 

- still mad that they traded the pick because I don’t think Dallas would’ve taken him….. but they got their guy.  He was obviously their only guy or they wouldn’t have traded up for him.  I’m glad they got their guy.  Now he’s my guy too!

 

LETS GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

As Beane said in his presser, in addition to the last R1 talent on their board, it was the possibility of someone jumping in front of them--everyone knew the Bills needed a CB. 

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2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Immediately after the draft-

 

- I was upset that they passed on 3 corners I had rated higher than him.  

 

- I didn’t understand why they drafted a corner that excels in press man.

 

- I didn’t understand why they drafted the worst tackling corner of the 3 available.  
 

- I HATED the fact that they traded our best trade up chip to move up several spots in rd 2-3 so we can move ahead of one team in rd 1…..while there were better corners available.  

 

Slept, woke up-  new rationale 

 

-  Elam has the measurable they covet and whether or not I had him as the best corner available, Elam was the last 1st rd talent available on their board.  McB > Me

 

- I’m happy that we drafted a corner than excels in man.  Levi had a solid season but his inability to run with the faster WRs limited our play calling and his lack of speed eventually led to our season ending.   I’ve been hoping that they would switch things up more often and play more man.  I think this will lead to exactly that.  He’s very good in coverage but susceptible to getting beat deep…. something that McDs defense are usually not susceptible to.  Our safeties will help him over the top. 
 

- still not a fan of his tackling, but he’s physically strong and our coaches will coach him up.  He’ll get better.  We have the proper support system for him.  
 

- still mad that they traded the pick because I don’t think Dallas would’ve taken him….. but they got their guy.  He was obviously their only guy or they wouldn’t have traded up for him.  I’m glad they got their guy.  Now he’s my guy too!

 

LETS GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

 

The 4th only would have allowed them to move up 4 spots in the 2nd and 8 spots in the 3rd.  If there's a guy they want that badly in either of those rounds, trade a 2023 draft pick in a package.  And no one knows who would have done what had the Ravens traded him to someone else, or if the Cowboys would have taken him (I think they would have and Beane knew it).  But it was still worth spending if it meant ensuring getting a need who was also BPA.

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1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Immediately after the draft-

 

- I was upset that they passed on 3 corners I had rated higher than him.  

 

- I didn’t understand why they drafted a corner that excels in press man.

 

- I didn’t understand why they drafted the worst tackling corner of the 3 available.  
 

- I HATED the fact that they traded our best trade up chip to move up several spots in rd 2-3 so we can move ahead of one team in rd 1…..while there were better corners available.  

 

Slept, woke up-  new rationale 

 

-  Elam has the measurable they covet and whether or not I had him as the best corner available, Elam was the last 1st rd talent available on their board.  McB > Me

 

- I’m happy that we drafted a corner than excels in man.  Levi had a solid season but his inability to run with the faster WRs limited our play calling and his lack of speed eventually led to our season ending.   I’ve been hoping that they would switch things up more often and play more man.  I think this will lead to exactly that.  He’s very good in coverage but susceptible to getting beat deep…. something that McDs defense are usually not susceptible to.  Our safeties will help him over the top. 
 

- still not a fan of his tackling, but he’s physically strong and our coaches will coach him up.  He’ll get better.  We have the proper support system for him.  
 

- still mad that they traded the pick because I don’t think Dallas would’ve taken him….. but they got their guy.  He was obviously their only guy or they wouldn’t have traded up for him.  I’m glad they got their guy.  Now he’s my guy too!

 

LETS GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

 

Good post, nice to see people come back and look at it rationally even if they initially were not on board.  


Also keep in mind, the trade up wasn’t just to get ahead of Dallas (although both Balt and Dal were capable of taking a corner there), but the first round had trades firing left and right.  And everyone and their mom knew Buffalo really needed a corner.  So if anyone wanted a corner, they would need to trade ahead of us to get one.
 

Our trade up was about making sure someone didn’t move ahead of us to take him.  
 

You know how I feel, I love the pick.  I personally thought it would be Booth as I thought he seemed more like a McD style fit, but I also loved Elam.  We got size and speed with him, and the 2020 version of him would have made him probably the a top 15 pick.  But 2021 they struggled as a team overall and he battled through a knee injury so he had a slightly lesser year as a result (although still very good).  
 

This kid seems dedicated to being great too from what I have read about him so far too.  He seems like the kind of player we will help develop to his full potential, and having him and Tre on opposite sides for the next several years might become the best tandem in the league if he does.

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The fact Elam was their final first-round graded player justifies the trade. It's still disappointing they had to do it. Beane's previous fourth round picks with Buffalo are Gabriel Davis and Taron Johnson.

 

I can live with the trade. Just not a fan of Elam as a prospect in the first round.

41 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Bashing Edmunds is unique and tying it to Elam is an interesting new twist.  If we draft a punter in the 6th let’s see how you doing blaming Edmunds for that one too.

 

I presume the comparison is taking one of the younger players in the draft with huge athletic upside. Now whether that can translate into a more polished and efficient player on the field is questionable. 

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48 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

It means that 15 years ago the Buffalo Bills selected Donte Whitner and Leodis McKelvin and these two draft picks ended our run of glory and ruined the franchise for a decade.  Therefore, selecting first round defensive backs is always a terrible idea.  That is the average Bills fan's understanding of football. 

 

Don't draft first round OL. Remember Mike Williams?!?!

Dont draft a 2nd RD WR, James Hardy (RIP)

or a first round QB  - EJ Manuel.

or a 3rd RD RB, Zack Moss

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13 minutes ago, TPS said:

As Beane said in his presser, in addition to the last R1 talent on their board, it was the possibility of someone jumping in front of them--everyone knew the Bills needed a CB. 

Everyone knew but did they know that Elam was the only guy left Beane had a first rd grade on?  Either way, it’s over.  McB got the corner they wanted….and he doesn’t have sub 30 inch arms.  

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1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Everyone knew but did they know that Elam was the only guy left Beane had a first rd grade on?  Either way, it’s over.  McB got the corner they wanted….and he doesn’t have sub 30 inch arms.  

 

I take back my offer to buy McDuffie a pair of gloves with 1/4 inch finger tips, and plan to write a note to the NFL rules committee demanding that type of glove is outlawed! 

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1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Everyone knew but did they know that Elam was the only guy left Beane had a first rd grade on?  Either way, it’s over.  McB got the corner they wanted….and he doesn’t have sub 30 inch arms.  

Of course not, but that's what drove him to make the move--when need matches up with BPA (as he also said in his presser). 

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18 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The 4th only would have allowed them to move up 4 spots in the 2nd and 8 spots in the 3rd.  If there's a guy they want that badly in either of those rounds, trade a 2023 draft pick in a package.  And no one knows who would have done what had the Ravens traded him to someone else, or if the Cowboys would have taken him (I think they would have and Beane knew it).  But it was still worth spending if it meant ensuring getting a need who was also BPA.

It was only worth spending if someone was going to take Elam.  We’ll never know.  If the ravens fleeced us or not.  Trading up 4 spots in rd 2 and 7-8 spots in rd 3 could be huge if it got us a player we wouldn’t be able to get @ 57 and 89.  
 

either way, we’ll never know and what’s done is done.  I’m over it and will likely never mention it again.  
 

 

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12 hours ago, BillsfaninChicago said:

Are we going to get caught up on the 4th rounder all rest of the off season now?

 

I don’t have to ask do I?

 

At first I thought it would have been nice to get back a 6th rounder or so to move up just a couple spots. After considering it overnight, I realize that even if we “hit” on a late round pick and find an NFL quality player, he probably gets plucked off of our practice squad. That is the downside of having a quality roster. I’ll have to learn to live with that. 

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3 minutes ago, TPS said:

Of course not, but that's what drove him to make the move--when need matches up with BPA (as he also said in his presser). 

Obv.  
 

I’m over it.  They got their guy.  Time to move on

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59 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

My pro's and con's of this pick, and some quite frankly fit into both categories

 

Pros:

- Position of biggest need on team

- High upside potential

- Speed factor

- NFL pedigree being former player's son

-McD/Frazier seem to get most of position even with UDFA's like Wallace

 

Cons:

- Seems like another Edmunds type of player which is worrisome for many reasons

- Beane doesn't have great track record with most draft picks on the defensive side

- Does seem like Beane scrambled after KC made their move and this became a need pick vs BPA pick

- Gave up 4th round pick to move ahead of one team

 

In the end way too early to know what Elam will amount to in the NFL but still think we need to sign a veteran DB ASAP.

Epic fail on the negatives.

 

1. Edmunds type of player?  What does that even mean?  If it means 5 year starter, defensive signal caller, defensive captain, and multiple pro bowls, please sign me up.

2. Beane does not have a great track record?  Ed Oliver - starter and at times dominant.  5th yer option picked up and still improving.  White - pro bowler and elite CB1.  Edmunds- already covered.  Rousseau - 1st year starter.  OK then.

3. Beane scrambled?  What is the evidence of that.  He had a player targeted above others and got him.  We do not even know, and never will, if he wanted McDuffie.

4. Move ahead of 1 team?  Wrong.  If Baltimore was moving the pick, every other team was in play.  By the way, we do not know that Dallas did not want this player.  Their reaction at the draft table after the Bills trade and selection was announced indicated they may well have been targeting the same player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The 4th only would have allowed them to move up 4 spots in the 2nd and 8 spots in the 3rd.  If there's a guy they want that badly in either of those rounds, trade a 2023 draft pick in a package.  And no one knows who would have done what had the Ravens traded him to someone else, or if the Cowboys would have taken him (I think they would have and Beane knew it).  But it was still worth spending if it meant ensuring getting a need who was also BPA.

 

25 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Good post, nice to see people come back and look at it rationally even if they initially were not on board.  


Also keep in mind, the trade up wasn’t just to get ahead of Dallas (although both Balt and Dal were capable of taking a corner there), but the first round had trades firing left and right.  And everyone and their mom knew Buffalo really needed a corner.  So if anyone wanted a corner, they would need to trade ahead of us to get one.
 

Our trade up was about making sure someone didn’t move ahead of us to take him.  
 

You know how I feel, I love the pick.  I personally thought it would be Booth as I thought he seemed more like a McD style fit, but I also loved Elam.  We got size and speed with him, and the 2020 version of him would have made him probably the a top 15 pick.  But 2021 they struggled as a team overall and he battled through a knee injury so he had a slightly lesser year as a result (although still very good).  
 

This kid seems dedicated to being great too from what I have read about him so far too.  He seems like the kind of player we will help develop to his full potential, and having him and Tre on opposite sides for the next several years might become the best tandem in the league if he does.

 

14 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Everyone knew but did they know that Elam was the only guy left Beane had a first rd grade on?  Either way, it’s over.  McB got the corner they wanted….and he doesn’t have sub 30 inch arms.  

 

I believe the prevailing thought was Tennessee was trying to jump us to get Elam, and partly evidenced by the fact that when we jumped Dallas and picked Elam, Titans immediately traded out of the round. So it wasnt just Dallas we were worried about.

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5 minutes ago, FLFan said:

Epic fail on the negatives.

 

1. Edmunds type of player?  What does that even mean?  If it means 5 year starter, defensive signal caller, defensive captain, and multiple pro bowls, please sign me up.

2. Beane does not have a great track record?  Ed Oliver - starter and at times dominant.  5th yer option picked up and still improving.  White - pro bowler and elite CB1.  Edmunds- already covered.  Rousseau - 1st year starter.  OK then.

3. Beane scrambled?  What is the evidence of that.  He had a player targeted above others and got him.  We do not even know, and never will, if he wanted McDuffie.

4. Move ahead of 1 team?  Wrong.  If Baltimore was moving the pick, every other team was in play.  By the way, we do not know that Dallas did not want this player.  Their reaction at the draft table after the Bills trade and selection was announced indicated they may well have been targeting the same player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Dallas war room looked awfully sombre.........i loved every minute of it.

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10 hours ago, Adam727 said:

I don't like that this felt like a bit of a reach for a "need" pick, and not BPA.  You can't convince me Elam was BPA over Devon Lloyd, Linderbaum, & Jermaine Johnson.

 

I don't understand the need for a trade up.

 

But I'm not going to question Beane/McD when it comes to DBs, and if they were willing to trade up for him, this was clearly the player they wanted.  I'm excited we have a CB opposite White with good size, and the biggest hole on our team has been addressed. 

 

Not the player I was hoping we would get but I'm looking forward to seeing what Beane/McD can do with him.    

Non of this addresses a very specific need that we have. BPA which is subjective in the first place doesn’t help us this year with such a glaring need. There was no reach, this kid had pretty much the best coverage stats in a tough conference of any DB in the draft. We did what we needed to do at our biggest need. Great move…

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2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

 

I believe the prevailing thought was Tennessee was trying to jump us to get Elam, and partly evidenced by the fact that when we jumped Dallas and picked Elam, Titans immediately traded out of the round. So it wasnt just Dallas we were worried about.

Yeah I heard that too.  We’ll probably never know, time to wipe it and reset.  

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If there were only about 20 players with 1st-round grades and that was close to consensus around the league, it makes sense that picks in the 20 range (like 23) can extract more in a trade than you would otherwise think possible.

 

Obviously Elam was one of the last players that the Bills had a first round grade on (maybe THE last) and they didn't want to plug CB2 with a player a tier below.

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24 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The 4th only would have allowed them to move up 4 spots in the 2nd and 8 spots in the 3rd.  If there's a guy they want that badly in either of those rounds, trade a 2023 draft pick in a package.  And no one knows who would have done what had the Ravens traded him to someone else, or if the Cowboys would have taken him (I think they would have and Beane knew it).  But it was still worth spending if it meant ensuring getting a need who was also BPA.

 

My concern about trading mid round picks this year is not this season but the next 2-3.   The Bills seem semi determined to go all in this year with a lot of the moves and that's fine if we bring home a Lombardy.   But if 2022 isn't our year we have a lot of dead cap space creeping up on us the next few years and some key players we need to renegotiate next off season.   Beane said multiple times this off season that we need to nail these mid round draft picks because of the cap situation we're in right now.  Having more rookie contracts to work with will help us immensely in preventing a dropoff in talent when we can't resign players like Edmunds or Poyer next season.   

 

I'm not really disappointed with the trade or the pick given the way the board was falling but just mildly concerned about next year.  As @NewEra said, we could have likely gotten Elam without the trade up.  If Elam was snagged then Booth was still there too.

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1 minute ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said:

Everyone got better than the Bills  had the chance to get that running back that could put the Bills over the top and Bills management because the Pegula's are afraid of the woke culture tries to justify Lesile Frazier as a coach how much more does it take to say that Frazier can't coach so many head coaching jobs out there and no one said yeah we like Frazier not one team considered him a coach what does that tell you.

Angry much?

Polarizing political takes ruin every conversation these days, do we have to let it seep into our football talks too?

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1 minute ago, mathja said:

Angry much?

Polarizing political takes ruin every conversation these days, do we have to let it seep into our football talks too?

 

It's the duplicate account of a problem child and has now been removed.

Permanently.

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10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I believe the prevailing thought was Tennessee was trying to jump us to get Elam, and partly evidenced by the fact that when we jumped Dallas and picked Elam, Titans immediately traded out of the round. So it wasnt just Dallas we were worried about.

 

It wouldn't surprise me.  And Dallas looked dejected and took their entire 15 minutes to make a pick, a reach at that.  Again I think that Beane has finger on the pulse of the NFL. 

 

6 minutes ago, Lost said:

My concern about trading mid round picks this year is not this season but the next 2-3.   The Bills seem semi determined to go all in this year with a lot of the moves and that's fine if we bring home a Lombardy.   But if 2022 isn't our year we have a lot of dead cap space creeping up on us the next few years and some key players we need to renegotiate next off season.   Beane said multiple times this off season that we need to nail these mid round draft picks because of the cap situation we're in right now.  Having more rookie contracts to work with will help us immensely in preventing a dropoff in talent when we can't resign players like Edmunds or Poyer next season.   

 

I'm not really disappointed with the trade or the pick given the way the board was falling but just mildly concerned about next year.  As @NewEra said, we could have likely gotten Elam without the trade up.  If Elam was snagged then Booth was still there too.

 

Nobody wants to trade extra picks.  But we'll never know if they could have gotten him without the trade up.  The point is whether it's worth taking the chance or ensuring you get the guy you want?  And as I said above, I'm sure Beane had an idea somebody wanted him.

 

As for next year and beyond, I doubt a late 4th round pick will make or break the team.

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2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

I think the big question with Elam is how does his game project to success as an NFL tight end or linebacker?  He has top end speed, so maybe he could replace Singletary.  I'll hang up now and listen.  Thanks.


Our o-line depth is still questionable. He could easily add 125lbs before the season starts if he’s really a team player.

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Solid pick.

 

Universally, he was considered a late 1st Round/early 2nd Round prospect.  The general consensus had him as the #5 CB this year.  The earliest I saw him ranked was the #18th ranked overall prospect (Pro Football Network).  The latest I saw was #47 (ESPN).  We got him right in that range, so it was decent value.  Not a homerun.  But nothing to complain about either.

 

In terms of "passing" on better CB prospects, I personally really liked Andrew Booth.  But as I mentioned in the draft threads earlier this week, lots of medical red flags have been popping up.  I wasn't really surprised to see Booth drop last night, and I wasn't really surprised to see us pass on him.  If his freefall continues Friday, you really have to wonder about the seriousness of his injury.

 

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24 minutes ago, FLFan said:

Epic fail on the negatives.

1. Edmunds type of player?  What does that even mean?  If it means 5 year starter, defensive signal caller, defensive captain, and multiple pro bowls, please sign me up.

2. Beane does not have a great track record?  Ed Oliver - starter and at times dominant.  5th yer option picked up and still improving.  White - pro bowler and elite CB1.  Edmunds- already covered.  Rousseau - 1st year starter.  OK then.

3. Beane scrambled?  What is the evidence of that.  He had a player targeted above others and got him.  We do not even know, and never will, if he wanted McDuffie.

4. Move ahead of 1 team?  Wrong.  If Baltimore was moving the pick, every other team was in play.  By the way, we do not know that Dallas did not want this player.  Their reaction at the draft table after the Bills trade and selection was announced indicated they may well have been targeting the same player.

 

People here are treating point #4 like it's quantum physics. It's really disturbing.

 

21 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I believe the prevailing thought was Tennessee was trying to jump us to get Elam, and partly evidenced by the fact that when we jumped Dallas and picked Elam, Titans immediately traded out of the round. So it wasnt just Dallas we were worried about.

 

20 minutes ago, Sweats said:

The Dallas war room looked awfully sombre.........i loved every minute of it.

 

The team that let Elam's Dad use Jerry Jones' private jet?

 

I'm not a highlight guy... here's the game between Alabama and Florida last season... Elam (#5) versus Jameson Williams (#1) and John Metchie (#8).

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

My concern about trading mid round picks this year is not this season but the next 2-3.   The Bills seem semi determined to go all in this year with a lot of the moves and that's fine if we bring home a Lombardy.   But if 2022 isn't our year we have a lot of dead cap space creeping up on us the next few years and some key players we need to renegotiate next off season.

 

Good. That gives Beane something to do next offseason and earn his paycheck instead of golfing all Spring. I kid, but my point is, that can be addressed later with an entire offseason to work with.

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25 minutes ago, FLFan said:

Epic fail on the negatives.

 

1. Edmunds type of player?  What does that even mean?  If it means 5 year starter, defensive signal caller, defensive captain, and multiple pro bowls, please sign me up.

2. Beane does not have a great track record?  Ed Oliver - starter and at times dominant.  5th yer option picked up and still improving.  White - pro bowler and elite CB1.  Edmunds- already covered.  Rousseau - 1st year starter.  OK then.

3. Beane scrambled?  What is the evidence of that.  He had a player targeted above others and got him.  We do not even know, and never will, if he wanted McDuffie.

4. Move ahead of 1 team?  Wrong.  If Baltimore was moving the pick, every other team was in play.  By the way, we do not know that Dallas did not want this player.  Their reaction at the draft table after the Bills trade and selection was announced indicated they may well have been targeting the same player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1-  traits.  Makes a lot of sense.

 

2-  he didn’t draft Tre’Davious 

 

3- someone traded up for a corner, then we traded up for a corner.  We had one 1st rd rated corner left on the board….so they traded up to secure him.  Scrambling could be a viable fit.  But you’re right, we’ll never know.  
 

4-  we have no clue what was said between Beane and Decosta.  We have no clue if what was said is true.  We’ll likely go to our graves not knowing if we got fleeced or not.   Decosta is shrewd and a master of trading down.  He does this every year and is a helluva GM….slash salesman.  We need to lock this trade up in the archives  asap

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2 hours ago, simpleman said:

I was hoping for Hall with an early 2nd  round trade up, but Beane flinched, panicked, and made a goofy trade up in the 1st that wasted his trade ammo to be able to grab Hall in the early 2nd. Not upset with the player selection, or their potential in the 1st, just the knee jerk panicked move by Beane. 

You are upset that Beane traded up for a premier position like CB, because you wanted him to use it to trade up for one of the lowest valued positions in RB?  I really don't get this logic.  

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It's remarkable that Brandon Beane had a first round grade on Kaiir Elam, but not Devin Lloyd, Jemaine Johnson, Daxton Hill, or Lewis Cine.

 

I have come to the conclusion that the sit-down interview, that presumable all teams have with draft prospects, is more important to Beane than maybe any other GM in the league. And as far as things like work ethic, coachability, culture fit, team-first attitude, and drive, Beane has never been wrong. 

 

Welcome Kaiir Elam!

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I think many myself included are making a bit too much about giving up a fourth round pick to move up 2 spots. 

The issue will be finding decent cheap depth players in the next few years. A fourth as many have said is not make or break. But he sure would be a lot less expensive than Siran Neal or an AJ Klein type player in the next few years. 

I have no issues with the player and had Beane waited and gotten him at 25 some would be calling him a genius for letting the draft come to him.

In the end for the immediate future Elam fills a massive need. 

On to day 2 and hopefully some help for Allen 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Dr. K said:

WARNING!!!!

 

This is entirely too sane a response to the selection. You need to demand that Beene and McDermott get their heads out of their butts and listen to your devastatingly accurate strategy based on your deep understanding of how football teams are staffed and the extensive scouting you have done on all division I college players.

 

If you fail to set your hair on fire, you are endangering your status as a card-carrying Bills fan. 

 

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!

 

Thank you Doc...B-)

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21 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

They literally just spent a 1st, a 3rd, and a 4th on a CB and another 1st on a DE

 

Reid and Veach are secure in their off-season moves at WR and offense as a whole.  You can draft defense when offense is prioritized which aligns with current league trends. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

It's remarkable that Brandon Beane had a first round grade on Kaiir Elam, but not Devin Lloyd, Jemaine Johnson, Daxton Hill, or Lewis Cine.

 

They may have not valued those other guys simply because they were not interested in using a 1st rnd pick at LB, DE or S.

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1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

Not my favorite thing, it's generally pretty good to have that agent there as a buffer between you and the business side of negotiating with teams, harder to take things personally that way.

 

I agree. Some agents also makes sure that the guys get ubers and keep clean. But his dad and uncle have been there done that, so Elam gets to keep that 20% or whatever it us. 

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