RD 1, Pick 23: CB Kaiir Elam, Florida

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

21 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

And you know this how?

The NFL is now like an arms race, whoever has the most nukes wins. Your WR’s are your nukes, CB’s Iin the playoffs even the good ones couldn’t stop sheet. We definitely dropped the ball on Skyy Moore. 

[Logic]

 

[ndirish1978]

I'm pretty amazed at the number of people here doubting McDermott's ability to develop a DB. We have been getting by with undrafted CBs, this improves our team by a lot. 

[Kingston Bills Fan]

For people saying they don’t mind trading a 4th…..what? Why just give away any pick? You could have used that 4th to move up in the second round, there was no way that Dallas was going corner. Bean just got nervous and ***** up. I like Elam but that just made zero sense

[CoudyBills]

8 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Man hopefully Josh gets some help in round 2 or 3 cause after this season we are really thin at the skill positions 

Where all the skill players on the offense were currently drafted, 3 thru 5.

[Logic]

1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

The NFL is now like an arms race, whoever has the most nukes wins. Your WR’s are your nukes, CB’s Iin the playoffs even the good ones couldn’t stop sheet. We definitely dropped the ball on Skyy Moore. 

Yeah the Bengals and their all-world WRs totally whooped Jalen Ramsey and the Rams for the Lombardi trophy. Oh wait.

[BillsFan4]

https://theathletic.com/3259672/2022/04/28/nfl-draft-kaiir-elam-florida-gators/
 

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“He’s a self-motivator to the point that he competes against himself,” said former Florida cornerbacks coach Jules Montinar. “I texted him after he ran the 4.39 at the combine and he was pissed that he didn’t run faster.”

 

He earned coaches All-SEC honors as a sophomore in 2020 when his 13 pass breakups tied for tops in the conference despite playing 161 fewer snaps in coverage than co-leader Patrick Surtain II.

 

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“He’s really comfortable playing press and he’s good at it,” Montinar said. “He’s a big guy, so it’s hard for wide receivers to get off the line. He gets hands on those guys and disturbs the timing of the routes. He matches up well against big receivers, has good ball skills, good movement, good change-of-direction, and he’s smart.”

 

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Reserved and matter-of-fact, Elam is hardly a quote machine. But he spoke up after last season’s 31-29 loss to Alabama, feeling the Gators were receiving too many back pats merely for playing the No. 1-ranked team close. “Losing is NOT acceptable, especially in the Swamp!” he tweeted. Later that day he told reporters, “I feel like we shouldn’t have any sympathy just because we lost by fewer points — even though we were projected to get mopped or whatever.”

 

Coachspeak: “I saw his professionalism and how he went about his preparation day-to-day, whether it was meetings or workouts or practice,” said Montinar, who’s now at Temple. “Having coached at Bama and Georgia, I’ve been around some big-time players, and he’s one of the best when it comes to the preparation. That’s not just me talking him up. He’s going to play a long time if he stays healthy.”

 

Sounds like a perfect fit to me. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

13 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Considering Beane said he's the last one he had 1st round grade on that makes sense.

 

Im surprised he didn't have a first round grade on Booth ??

 

 

[billieve420]

Just now, Kingston Bills Fan said:

For people saying they don’t mind trading a 4th…..what? Why just give away any pick? You could have used that 4th to move up in the second round, there was no way that Dallas was going corner. Bean just got nervous and ***** up. I like Elam but that just made zero sense

Can still package late round picks to move up in 2nd if team feels the need to. 

[VW82]

Big, physical corner that we traded up for and our HC has a great history as a former DB finding DBs. Yeah, I'm gonna say this one probably works out. 

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Not really undisclosed. Character concerns. 

Ok. Then Why did basically everyone have him as a top 10-15 selection?

[Logic]

1 minute ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

For people saying they don’t mind trading a 4th…..what? Why just give away any pick? You could have used that 4th to move up in the second round, there was no way that Dallas was going corner. Bean just got nervous and ***** up. I like Elam but that just made zero sense

We have no idea what those guys know that we don't. Maybe they had intel that Dallas liked Elam. Maybe Baltimore told them that other teams were trying to trade up with them. We have no idea.

It's possible Beane got stupid and antsy, but it's also possible that they had intel that gave them cause to do what they did.

[billieve420]

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Im surprised he didn't have a first round grade on Booth ??

 

 

Medical concerns had Booth dropping out of the first which looks like is going to happen.

[78thealltimegreat]

1 minute ago, CoudyBills said:

Where all the skill players on the offense were currently drafted, 3 thru 5.

Yes how dare they draft someone above round 3 for their 258 million dollar qb 

[Stank_Nasty]

Just now, Logic said:

Yeah the Bengals and their all-world WRs totally whooped Jalen Ramsey and the Rams for the Lombardi trophy. Oh wait.

Honestly I saw Ramsey get punked during that game. ESPECIALLY on the final play. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[hondo in seattle]

I love draft picks.  When it comes to draft picks: the more, the better.   Pro Bowlers are found in every round.  Like lottery tickets, the chances of winning in the draft increases with your number of picks.  Generally speaking, it's better to trade down to gain picks than to trade up and lose picks. 

 

And, yet, I'm okay with Beane giving up a 4h rounder, maybe needlessly.

 

The Bills badly needed a CB and saw Elam as the last guy on the board who could come in and start for the Bills.

 

While there are good players in every round, typically what you get in the 4th round is a backup who sticks around for a couple years before being cut.  So Beane gave up a mediocre backup to be certain he got us a contributor at a position of need.

[Kingston Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

Can still package late round picks to move up in 2nd if team feels the need to. 

Still makes zero sense to throw away a pick no matter how you try to rationalize it 

Edited April 29, 2022 by Kingston Bills Fan

[RichRiderBills]

3 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

I'm pretty amazed at the number of people here doubting McDermott's ability to develop a DB. We have been getting by with undrafted CBs, this improves our team by a lot. 

 

By that logic why not trust him to nab a guy later rounds and develop him? 

[NoSaint]

3 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

For people saying they don’t mind trading a 4th…..what? Why just give away any pick? You could have used that 4th to move up in the second round, there was no way that Dallas was going corner. Bean just got nervous and ***** up. I like Elam but that just made zero sense

so trading up for you guy in the first is panicking but in the second is shrewd?

[John from Riverside]

6 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

No rb under contract after this year…no te under contract after this year…Crowder is on a 1 year deal..Saffold is only here for 1 year…get the idea? 

So just want to point one thing out

 

Beane seems to like to do these "1 year deals" when it comes to vets.  Do you really believe we wont have a TE under a long term contract next year.....a offensive guard?

 

Corner is a premium position.....our start corner is coming back from a  major injury.   We still have some picks left.

[Logic]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

https://theathletic.com/3259672/2022/04/28/nfl-draft-kaiir-elam-florida-gators/
 

 

 

Sounds like a perfect fit to me. 

Whole lotta "process" going on in those quotes.

[CSBill]

Nothing exciting, but I trust McBeane. They know better than me. I think?

[billieve420]

2 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Still makes zero sense to throw away a puck no matter how you try to rationalize it 

For a super bowl contender it does make sense no matter how you try to rationalize it. No guarantees 4th rd pick even makes team.

Edited April 29, 2022 by billieve420

[The Wiz]

Just now, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Still makes zero sense to throw away a puck no matter how you try to rationalize it 

Rationalize how many 4th rounders have turned out to be superstars?

[NoSaint]

Just now, RichRiderBills said:

 

By that logic why not trust him to nab a guy later rounds and develop him? 

Less upside to replace tre as cb1 down the line?

[astb41]

now go sign Joe Haden to a 1 year and we're set

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Still makes zero sense to throw away a pick no matter how you try to rationalize it 

Bro. Get over it. 

[Big Blitz]

4 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

For people saying they don’t mind trading a 4th…..what? Why just give away any pick? You could have used that 4th to move up in the second round, there was no way that Dallas was going corner. Bean just got nervous and ***** up. I like Elam but that just made zero sense

 

Dallas was and they also could have traded back if they really wanted a OT

[716er]

1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

By that logic why not trust him to nab a guy later rounds and develop him? 

To get the next Tre White 

[Logic]

2 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Honestly I saw Ramsey get punked during that game. ESPECIALLY on the final play. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Let's use a different example then. How did Levi Wallace and Dane Jackson do against the Chiefs' receivers in the playoffs?

[VW82]

Trading away the 4th sucks but we're a potential SB contender this year. It was more important to get our guy and help shore up one of our few team weaknesses.

[4merper4mer]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

 

They might very well like him but not as a first.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Big praise.

 

 

[Alphadawg7]

I LOVE THE PICK!  I thought they would go Booth over him, but this kid was unreal before he got hurt.  

 

We needed this, and if Beane traded up I am assuming he felt so strongly about him he didnt want to risk someone else moving ahead of us to take him given we CB was a pretty obvious choice for us at 25.  I don't care about the fourth as long as they got the guy they coveted.  

 

Now gonna be interesting to see what we do in the 2nd, wouldn't surprise me to see us trade up again at some point in this draft.  

[Westside Madness]

30 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Don’t worry, Allen will continue to carry the team to victory each week….. on his back.

Or in his cup...

[Kingston Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

so trading up for you guy in the first is panicking but in the second is shrewd?

Trading up anytime is ok except to jump a team that has no need for the position you want why just throw the pick away? No reason to do it whatsoever

[RichRiderBills]

Just now, 716er said:

To get the next Tre White 

 

Elam ain't White. Not by a country mile. 

[Bruffalo]

I'm seriously surprised to see the disdain on this board with this pick.  Elam is going to be great opposite Tre.  He has a speed element that the secondary is seriously lacking and he has great measurements.  When we're playing guys like Hill, Waddle, and now Jameson Williams multiple times a year we're going to need this kind of speedy man element to ensure we don't get killed in YAC. 

 

This is a great piece to make our defense that much more dominant. 

[HurlyBurly51]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Im surprised he didn't have a first round grade on Booth ??

 

 

so many experts here did🤣

[bahamasbills]

2 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said:

Still makes zero sense to throw away a pick no matter how you try to rationalize it 

How it is zero sense to secure a player at need that you would love to have on your team.  You are basically saying am I willing to lose this player over a 4th?  Beane knew he needed this player and made it happen.  Its pretty simple.