Dwayne Haskins killed [Edit: struck by vehicle]

[Orlando Tim]

30 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

Guy made a bad decision and then paid the ultimate price  

This is short version, not what he deserved but bad decisions sometimes have horrible ramifications. Most of us have a story where if our luck had turned bad we would be in much worse shape, his life ended.

[Big Turk]

Oh damn...Haskins was in the K-Hole when he died?? That explains some things...

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ketamine-norketamine-examining-two-drugs-151335682.html

[RocCityRoller]

10 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Oh damn...Haskins was in the K-Hole when he died?? That explains some things...

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ketamine-norketamine-examining-two-drugs-151335682.html

 

Hey Turk, He wouldn't have been able to drive or walk 'in a K-hole'.

 

A K-hole is the term used for a really strong peak of a Ketamine high when the body and mind are really detached and you can't interact with anything around you much less move.

 

K doesn't last as long as other psychedelics. Start to finish is usually about an hour give or take.

 

The high was probably long gone, but it wasn't metabolized out of his system which is how it was detected by toxicology.

Edited May 26, 2022 by RocCityRoller

[Big Turk]

28 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

Hey Turk, He wouldn't have been able to drive or walk 'in a K-hole'.

 

A K-hole is the term used for a really strong peak of a Ketamine high when the body and mind are really detached and you can't interact with anything around you much less move.

 

K doesn't last as long as other psychedelics. Start to finish is usually about an hour give or take.

 

The high was probably long gone, but it wasn't metabolized out of his system which is how it was detected by toxicology.

 

Ehh, when I DJ'd in clubs back in the day, people were in the K-Hole all the time.

[MJS]

On 5/24/2022 at 11:09 PM, StHustle said:

I agree that most of this is likely true and anyone with sense would know what he did doesn’t make him a scumbag or anything else but immature and irresponsible. Plenty young guys are like that. Many who are blessed enough to survive that phase go on to mature and do better. It’s a shame he wasn’t one of those. RIP Haskins. Folks should stop judging them and think back to the dumb crap they did that could have ended similarly.

He is absolutely a scumbag for driving while impaired. He is lucky he only killed himself and nobody else.

[StHustle]

3 minutes ago, MJS said:

He is absolutely a scumbag for driving while impaired. He is lucky he only killed himself and nobody else.

Smh…so anyone who has driven drunk are scumbags. Gotcha.

[KDIGGZ]

So he was on ketamine and drunk driving and he had a chick from the club in the car with him? And his wife who he was cheating on still got that full body tattoo of him? Oops

[MJS]

4 hours ago, StHustle said:

Smh…so anyone who has driven drunk are scumbags. Gotcha.

Absolutely. Every single one.

 

Everyone is worked up about gun violence and school shootings, as they should be.

 

But you are trying to normalize something that results in over 10,000 deaths every single year? Completely preventable deaths just due to drunk drivers making stupid, illegal, dangerous decisions and thinking it is normal and ok.

 

Screw anyone who gets behind the wheel impaired. Lock them all up and throw away the key.

Edited May 26, 2022 by MJS

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Most likely the lady was a stripper from the club

[Dablitzkrieg]

8 hours ago, MJS said:

Absolutely. Every single one.

 

Everyone is worked up about gun violence and school shootings, as they should be.

 

But you are trying to normalize something that results in over 10,000 deaths every single year? Completely preventable deaths just due to drunk drivers making stupid, illegal, dangerous decisions and thinking it is normal and ok.

 

Screw anyone who gets behind the wheel impaired. Lock them all up and throw away the key.

What about someone like me?  For instance,  I got sober 21 years ago and turned my life around.   Should I be locked up because I drank and drove at 20 y/o?

[soflabillsfan1]

12 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

What about someone like me?  For instance,  I got sober 21 years ago and turned my life around.   Should I be locked up because I drank and drove at 20 y/o?

Yes.  Go turn yourself in at the nearest police station, scumbag.

Guy was 3 times the legal limit.  Thats pretty irresponsible.  Could have easily killed someone else.

[NoSaint]

22 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

What about someone like me?  For instance,  I got sober 21 years ago and turned my life around.   Should I be locked up because I drank and drove at 20 y/o?

don’t worry - we all change and evolve over years and decades. Odds are there are a variety of new scum baggy things you do!

 

that said, the minimization of drunk driving to avoid self introspection is definitely something that I hope changes. “Everybody was doing it” sure should be replaced by “I really messed up and made regrettable decisions” for a lot of folks. 

[MJS]

1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

What about someone like me?  For instance,  I got sober 21 years ago and turned my life around.   Should I be locked up because I drank and drove at 20 y/o?

Good for you. I'm truly glad you aren't putting innocent people or yourself at risk anymore.

 

You totally deserved to be locked up when you were doing that. Now that you aren't doing that, you don't.

 

I have no sympathy for people who drink and drive and no patience for those who normalize it. I have friends who are dead because of people like you used to be. And if you have a problem with that, I really don't care.

[Chaos]

19 hours ago, MJS said:

He is absolutely a scumbag for driving while impaired. He is lucky he only killed himself and nobody else.

Wasn’t Haskins a pedestrian when he was struck ?

[Punching Bag]

18 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Most likely the lady was a stripper from the club

 

Interesting how his wife is asking for support on this matter. No details have come out on assistant or even how she got home.

 

I have seen life insurance contracts where if you were under influence they did not pay or payment was reduced.

30 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Wasn’t Haskins a pedestrian when he was struck ?

 

Yes but he was driving (reportedly) until he ran out of gas.

[badassgixxer05]

35 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Interesting how his wife is asking for support on this matter. No details have come out on assistant or even how she got home.

 

I have seen life insurance contracts where if you were under influence they did not pay or payment was reduced.

 

Yes but he was driving (reportedly) until he ran out of gas.

Explains why he ran out of gas, was shitfaced and high and had no clue wtf he was doing. Really sad.

[KDIGGZ]

1 year later update...

Essentially Haskins' estate is suing the truck driver that hit him for the truck being in poor condition and that's why it didn't stop in time and additionally they believe Haskins was drugged in an attempted robbery and that's why he was walking around the middle of the highway. Just a very sad and bizarre story that just keeps getting weirder

 

[Breakout Squad]

14 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

1 year later update...

Essentially Haskins' estate is suing the truck driver that hit him for the truck being in poor condition and that's why it didn't stop in time and additionally they believe Haskins was drugged in an attempted robbery and that's why he was walking around the middle of the highway. Just a very sad and bizarre story that just keeps getting weirder

 

That’s a crazy development. The last part about being drugged seems outlandish but possible. Sounds like driver of the truck could be at fault. 

[Mister Defense]

On 4/9/2022 at 5:08 PM, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

I live right by this highway. Has anyone said how he got onto 595 on foot? That's absolutely tragic and wild. That is a major highway with cars and trucks going 80+ over 5-6 lanes each way. Unbelievable

 

Yes, that is what i was thinking, a busy highway. 

 

Out of gas, yes, but call a service station to bring you some.

 

And then, with 25% of your blood alcohol, you could have them take you home too.

[KDIGGZ]

22 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

That’s a crazy development. The last part about being drugged seems outlandish but possible. Sounds like driver of the truck could be at fault. 

The the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. I think some accountability is needed here and in our society as a whole. If you go out clubbing all night it's not going to take some kind of weird conspiracy situation to get you intoxicated enough to walk into oncoming traffic or a truck that has faulty brakes. But whatever it takes for them to get some money out of the insurance company I guess

[BillsShredder83]

This is gross. It reflects on the atty and whoever sought to file (not on Dwayne) but citing poor maintenance on a truck not being able to stop on a crazy ass section of Florida thruway is complete BS.  This truckers life is already shattered from something that isnt his fault, but now hes going to get further dragged. Highly highly doubt he was able to mentally/legally drive truck after this, when it was wrong place/wrong time. So hes out his career, proli chasing the guy for $$ now, further dragging his name publically. Ughhhhh scumbag lawyers in this country

[Virgil]

Is this the first time this is being put out to the world?  
 

This is crazy. 

[Freddie's Dead]

The main purpose of this lawsuit is to proceed with discovery.  After that, they'll know whether they have grounds to continue the suit.  There are 14 parties named in the suit, if I remember right, and many of them are the suspects that perhaps drugged him.  The bar doesn't have much to worry about.  Florida's dram shop law only holds the bar liable if serving to a minor or a person with a known addiction.  Interested to see how this plays out.

Edited April 11, 2023 by Freddie's Dead

[boyst]

3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

The main purpose of this lawsuit is to proceed with discovery.  After that, they'll know whether they have grounds to continue the suit.  There are 14 parties named in the suit, if I remember right, and many of them are the suspects that perhaps drugged him.  The bar doesn't have much to worry about.  Florida's dram shop law only holds the bar liable if serving to a minor or a person with a known addiction.  Interested to see how this plays out.

this lawsuit is just to shake some settlement money out of it. it won't be long before some major corporations are tied in for graft/settlement/harassment?

[Pecos Bills]

22 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Yes, that is what i was thinking, a busy highway. 

 

Out of gas, yes, but call a service station to bring you some.

 

And then, with 25% of your blood alcohol, you could have them take you home too.

May want to revise that percentage by a couple decimals... a human would be dead with just 0.4% blood alcohol.  25% is closer to embalmed than drunk 😆

[london_bills]

Awful story.RIP 😔

[boyst]

36 minutes ago, Pecos Bills said:

May want to revise that percentage by a couple decimals... a human would be dead with just 0.4% blood alcohol.  25% is closer to embalmed than drunk 😆

you don't know Keith Whitley.  

[Dr Krentist]

5 hours ago, boyst said:

this lawsuit is just to shake some settlement money out of it. it won't be long before some major corporations are tied in for graft/settlement/harassment?

 

Looks like the rental car company and the state government are included in the lawsuit: "The wide-ranging lawsuit alleges negligence by the driver of the dump truck that struck Haskins, the state government entity tasked with maintaining the roadway, the company that provided his rental car, and the nightclub he attended hours before the crash, among other entities."

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/dwayne-haskins-wife-files-wide-145445771.html

[1ManRaid]

5 hours ago, boyst said:

this lawsuit is just to shake some settlement money out of it. it won't be long before some major corporations are tied in for graft/settlement/harassment?

 

34 minutes ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

Looks like the rental car company and the state government are included in the lawsuit: "The wide-ranging lawsuit alleges negligence by the driver of the dump truck that struck Haskins, the state government entity tasked with maintaining the roadway, the company that provided his rental car, and the nightclub he attended hours before the crash, among other entities."

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/dwayne-haskins-wife-files-wide-145445771.html

 

That's literally just how catastrophic injury cases work.  It's not malice or a targeted grift/harassment, no lawyer worth their weight wouldn't include EVERYONE even tangentially related to the incident in the lawsuit.  To not do so would be failing to act in the best interests of their client.  You never know what discovery might turn up.

 

(Hypothetical extreme examples of course)

Sold him a pack of gum earlier in the day?  You're getting sued.  Why?  Well discovery might expose that the newsstand you work at was being investigated after customers kept winding up in the hospital after lax health and safety measures led to rats peeing on the gum giving people a rare obscure condition that yadda yadda yadda...

 

You're a new junior assistant air filter technician at the truck company?  You're getting sued.  Discovery might expose that your recent hiring was because of someone else retiring, and incompetent management misfiled some paperwork leading to the retired hydraulics/brakes technician accidentally being replaced with an untrained air filter jockey, leading to the truck having it's regularly scheduled brake service delayed another week...

 

When you get one throw of a net to catch some fish, you throw as large a net as possible.

Edited April 11, 2023 by 1ManRaid

[RyanC883]

On 4/10/2023 at 1:29 PM, BillsShredder83 said:

This is gross. It reflects on the atty and whoever sought to file (not on Dwayne) but citing poor maintenance on a truck not being able to stop on a crazy ass section of Florida thruway is complete BS.  This truckers life is already shattered from something that isnt his fault, but now hes going to get further dragged. Highly highly doubt he was able to mentally/legally drive truck after this, when it was wrong place/wrong time. So hes out his career, proli chasing the guy for $$ now, further dragging his name publically. Ughhhhh scumbag lawyers in this country

 

I don’t know, depends how defective the breaks were.  Also likely not the drivers job but the company/maintenance vendors job to ensure breaks were correct.  This won’t bring back Haskins, but driving a large vehicle like that without appropriate breaks puts everyone on the highway in danger. 

[JoPoy88]

Crazy theory about the drugging/robbing. 
 

It’s been reported he was out partying the previous night - how does the attorney know his watch was stolen as opposed to lost? Have authorities recovered it?

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

 

That's literally just how catastrophic injury cases work.  It's not malice or a targeted grift/harassment, no lawyer worth their weight wouldn't include EVERYONE even tangentially related to the incident in the lawsuit.  To not do so would be failing to act in the best interests of their client.  You never know what discovery might turn up.

 

(Hypothetical extreme examples of course)

Sold him a pack of gum earlier in the day?  You're getting sued.  Why?  Well discovery might expose that the newsstand you work at was being investigated after customers kept winding up in the hospital after lax health and safety measures led to rats peeing on the gum giving people a rare obscure condition that yadda yadda yadda...

 

You're a new junior assistant air filter technician at the truck company?  You're getting sued.  Discovery might expose that your recent hiring was because of someone else retiring, and incompetent management misfiled some paperwork leading to the retired hydraulics/brakes technician accidentally being replaced with an untrained air filter jockey, leading to the truck having it's regularly scheduled brake service delayed another week...

 

When you get one throw of a net to catch some fish, you throw as large a net as possible.

I understand this but I also think it kind of sucks.  So the brakes were not serviced for a week and that likely had 0 to do with any of the events yet somone has to pay out they a** to defend this crap.

[1ManRaid]

27 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I understand this but I also think it kind of sucks.  So the brakes were not serviced for a week and that likely had 0 to do with any of the events yet somone has to pay out they a** to defend this crap.

 

I agree, but that's just how the system works.  "Don't hate the playa, hate the game" and all that.

 

But in the example you mentioned of the brakes missing a week's service, that is far from "likely 0 to do with" the hypothetical.  Industrial trucks are strictly regulated for a reason, and missed regular checkups DO get people killed.

[Matt_In_NH]

1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

I agree, but that's just how the system works.  "Don't hate the playa, hate the game" and all that.

 

But in the example you mentioned of the brakes missing a week's service, that is far from "likely 0 to do with" the hypothetical.  Industrial trucks are strictly regulated for a reason, and missed regular checkups DO get people killed.

 

You know what gets people killed more than brakes 1 week out of service?  Running around a highway drunk off you ass.

[boyst]

2 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

 

That's literally just how catastrophic injury cases work.  It's not malice or a targeted grift/harassment, no lawyer worth their weight wouldn't include EVERYONE even tangentially related to the incident in the lawsuit.  To not do so would be failing to act in the best interests of their client.  You never know what discovery might turn up.

 

(Hypothetical extreme examples of course)

Sold him a pack of gum earlier in the day?  You're getting sued.  Why?  Well discovery might expose that the newsstand you work at was being investigated after customers kept winding up in the hospital after lax health and safety measures led to rats peeing on the gum giving people a rare obscure condition that yadda yadda yadda...

 

You're a new junior assistant air filter technician at the truck company?  You're getting sued.  Discovery might expose that your recent hiring was because of someone else retiring, and incompetent management misfiled some paperwork leading to the retired hydraulics/brakes technician accidentally being replaced with an untrained air filter jockey, leading to the truck having it's regularly scheduled brake service delayed another week...

 

When you get one throw of a net to catch some fish, you throw as large a net as possible.

this is everything wrong with this country right here.

 

you make stupid choices you win stupid prices.

 

Dwayne Haskins. FAFO.

He found out.

[1ManRaid]

47 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

 

You know what gets people killed more than brakes 1 week out of service?  Running around a highway drunk off you ass.

 

Of course, but the truck company isn't suing the Haskins estate lol.  If they were, they'd be throwing a similarly wide net.

 

45 minutes ago, boyst said:

this is everything wrong with this country right here.

 

you make stupid choices you win stupid prices.

 

Dwayne Haskins. FAFO.

He found out.

 

Not disagreeing with you there.  But if you'll permit me being a snarky bish for a moment, it's redundant to add "he found out" to FAFO. 😝

[Mr. WEO]

This lawsuit is alleging significant crimes occurred.  Why didn’t they bring this wild story to the cops last year?   What’s their evidence? 

[TailgateChef]

8 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

 

That's literally just how catastrophic injury cases work.  It's not malice or a targeted grift/harassment, no lawyer worth their weight wouldn't include EVERYONE even tangentially related to the incident in the lawsuit.  To not do so would be failing to act in the best interests of their client.  You never know what discovery might turn up.

 

(Hypothetical extreme examples of course)

Sold him a pack of gum earlier in the day?  You're getting sued.  Why?  Well discovery might expose that the newsstand you work at was being investigated after customers kept winding up in the hospital after lax health and safety measures led to rats peeing on the gum giving people a rare obscure condition that yadda yadda yadda...

 

You're a new junior assistant air filter technician at the truck company?  You're getting sued.  Discovery might expose that your recent hiring was because of someone else retiring, and incompetent management misfiled some paperwork leading to the retired hydraulics/brakes technician accidentally being replaced with an untrained air filter jockey, leading to the truck having it's regularly scheduled brake service delayed another week...

 

When you get one throw of a net to catch some fish, you throw as large a net as possible.

Well done.  Great explanation.

[Beck Water]

On 4/10/2023 at 11:29 AM, KDIGGZ said:

1 year later update...

Essentially Haskins' estate is suing the truck driver that hit him for the truck being in poor condition and that's why it didn't stop in time and additionally they believe Haskins was drugged in an attempted robbery and that's why he was walking around the middle of the highway. Just a very sad and bizarre story that just keeps getting weirder

 

 

It sounds as though they're trying to blame someone - anyone.

 

I don't find it hard to believe that a handful of cars might manage to brake and avoid a pedestrian but the driver of a vehicle with less maneuverability and more mass/longer braking distance might not.  Doesn't mean it's the dump truck driver's fault.  When you're a truck driver and you know you have blind spots, you can't just swerve into another lane without risk of hitting another vehicle/losing control.

 

Still a very sad ending to Haskins' life.

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

It sounds as though they're trying to blame someone - anyone.

 

I don't find it hard to believe that a handful of cars might manage to brake and avoid a pedestrian but the driver of a vehicle with less maneuverability and more mass/longer braking distance might not.  Doesn't mean it's the dump truck driver's fault.  When you're a truck driver and you know you have blind spots, you can't just swerve into another lane without risk of hitting another vehicle/losing control.

 

Still a very sad ending to Haskins' life.

Though it’s also possible the truck driver was negligently operating his vehicle too

On 4/10/2023 at 12:29 PM, BillsShredder83 said:

This is gross. It reflects on the atty and whoever sought to file (not on Dwayne) but citing poor maintenance on a truck not being able to stop on a crazy ass section of Florida thruway is complete BS.  This truckers life is already shattered from something that isnt his fault, but now hes going to get further dragged. Highly highly doubt he was able to mentally/legally drive truck after this, when it was wrong place/wrong time. So hes out his career, proli chasing the guy for $$ now, further dragging his name publically. Ughhhhh scumbag lawyers in this country

I mean, if accurate that his truck had wheel and brake issues and was carrying an unreasonable load - he may not be a murderer but also share some culpability in the situation. Without knowing any of the details, declaring otherwise confidently is simply projecting your own biases on the world