Alphadawg7 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 53 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Ha! I tried to name my dog Diggs but my family vetoed me. That is a great name. Well done. Ha, it was the strategic work of my fiance lol. We "fostered" in September, but I knew and she knew she was gonna fall in love and want to adopt him. But our "plan" was to wait to adopt a pup until after the wedding this June. We had a Hawaii wedding to attend in February, a few other trips between now and June, then we are gone almost all of June for wedding then headed to Italy for honeymoon. So it just was gonna be easier to wait. Her SECRET plan...name the foster pup after something I love to break me down and want to keep the pup haha. She knew that I had said my next dog I wanted to name Diggs, such a good name for a dog too. So of course first thing she did was suggest we name it Diggs, which is a great name for him. She's a huge Niners fan, could have easily named him Deebo, but she went with Diggs so I would cave...and it worked lmao. Now of course she wants a second dog as a playmate for Diggs, which she is gonna probably push for when we get back from our honeymoon...and if its a boy, she wants to name that one Deebo lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: You keep talking with him. I have seen nothing that suggests Diggs wouldn’t be willing to work with the Bills to stay put. He has been a great team mate and has not complained publicly about his contract at all. My guess is both your options are wrong. They work out a nice deal to make him happy, but maintain flexibility. Beane seems to be very open and talks to the guys and has a plan - not worried - go win a SB and then deal with things. Diggs wants to be paid, he may not openly admit it but he sees these salaries and uses eye ball emojis. Then he kind of posts a subtle question emoji when Beane says "Diggs contract is not a priority" Its great to think he will take a discount, but rarely does that happen. Diggs will command 22+ mil a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, wnyguy said: So is quoting his stats from the KC game. 22 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: The chiefs gameplan was to take away Diggs and force the Bills to beat them with anyone BUT Diggs. Thats exactly what the Bills did. Without Diggs the Bills arent in that game Just one more thing ... in two playoff games last season, Diggs had 6 receptions for 67 yards with zero TDs. The Bills scored a total of 83 points in those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 SHOW HIM THE MONEY!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, Gugny said: So you want a $30 million/year decoy. Good plan. No, I want to win. Diggs helps us achieve that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I am shocked at the responses that want to trade him He has been a model cit here One of the best WR's in the league Drafts are crapshoots 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, wnyguy said: No, I want to win. Diggs helps us achieve that. I want to win, too. But if we're paying over $20 million/year to a player whose postseason contributions are limited, I'm thinking that the money could be better spent elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I think he's too important to Allen beyond the football field. These two truly seem to have a true friendship for life. I always said, Diggs brought a certain intensity to our offense and we should have at least made back to back AFC title games with him. He also made it to a title game in the NFC. He's a winner and a phenomenal talent, loves the Bills. Pay the man and let's win multiple championships 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: I want to win, too. But if we're paying over $20 million/year to a player whose postseason contributions are limited, I'm thinking that the money could be better spent elsewhere. How do you think Gabe Davis went off? Not everything shows up on the stat sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Gugny said: I want to win, too. But if we're paying over $20 million/year to a player whose postseason contributions are limited, I'm thinking that the money could be better spent elsewhere. Ok say Diggs did not play in the KC game, does Davis have the same stats as he did in that game? I think not. Also how many times was Diggs targeted in the post season? If he is drawing coverage and Allen sees that it only makes sense to throw to the open receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Ask Josh if he is willing to contribute to keeping his friend on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Diggs wants to be paid, he may not openly admit it but he sees these salaries and uses eye ball emojis. Then he kind of posts a subtle question emoji when Beane says "Diggs contract is not a priority" Its great to think he will take a discount, but rarely does that happen. Diggs will command 22+ mil a year. 22M, we may do, but much higher and its basically - ok - Cash in and catch balls from Jared Goff or Jalen Hurts etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gugny said: I want to win, too. But if we're paying over $20 million/year to a player whose postseason contributions are limited, I'm thinking that the money could be better spent elsewhere. devante adams had 1 catch for 9yds in their playoff game. Is he no good too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Don't answer the poll, you will be sorry . Edited March 24, 2022 by HOUSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 He ain't that good. Riddle me this, does he look overpaid if he got traded to the Jets instead of the Bills the last two years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Ok say Diggs did not play in the KC game, does Davis have the same stats as he did in that game? I think not. Also how many times was Diggs targeted in the post season? If he is drawing coverage and Allen sees that it only makes sense to throw to the open receiver. It's not like we'd replace Diggs with Jimmy Football Fan.... Draft Jameson/Olave/Dotson at 25. Target another WR high next year with a pick Diggs would bring back in a trade. Keep loading up on WR talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: devante adams had 1 catch for 9yds in their playoff game. Is he no good too? He actually had 9 catches for 90 yards in that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, NewEra said: Play this season out. Win a super bowl. Trade him. I’m afraid I would have to agree with this. The WR market has reset and truth be told it’s at a ridiculous valuation that makes it untenable for the Bills or any other $40m+ QB. You just can’t pay $27m to the WR, $40m to the QB and $35m to the top 2 defensive players. That’s over $100m, which would eat up around 40% of the cap on 4 players. The WR market is overinflated and it doesn’t make sense to pay that sort of money. 21 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Diggs wants to be paid, he may not openly admit it but he sees these salaries and uses eye ball emojis. Then he kind of posts a subtle question emoji when Beane says "Diggs contract is not a priority" Its great to think he will take a discount, but rarely does that happen. Diggs will command 22+ mil a year. No way, more like $25 -$26m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Packers were ready to pay that to Adams though.. Adams just wanted to leave at that point. Chiefs, while losing 1/3 of what made them all-time special, likely did make the smart move. They had a price point for Hill. Didn't exceed it. Traded him for picks. Hill is 29 and his game is predicated upon legendary speed/athleticism. Agreed about jones. I’ve retracted that statement. I think the chiefs did the right thing too…..yesterday. But they made a MAJOR blunder by drafting Clyde rd 1. That move could potentially keep them from other titles. They should’ve went WR or corner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, CountDorkula said: With seeing these escalating WR salaries and Diggs looking to be paid as a top WR. What do you do? At this point you do nothing outside of a conversation with the player where you lay out your plan for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Beerball said: At this point you do nothing outside of a conversation with the player where you lay out your plan for him. Why you goin' all Bill Parcells on his ass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, Lost said: I love everything about Diggs, his skill set, his relationship with JA and the team but this is probably the correct take. I'd be open to the possibility of resigning him for close to the 20 mil range(which i doubt he would go for) if the Bills don't resign Edmunds. I dont think we can afford both players next year nor do I think its good to have 80% of your cap tied up in a handful of players Same. Love him. Not sure if I’d trade him if we don’t win a SB this year. we have gabe on the cheap for 2 more years. We need to keep the cupboards stocked with potential replacements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, Gugny said: Why you goin' all Bill Parcells on his ass? Because that’s the approach a sane GM would have with ANY PLAYER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Josh is the only untouchable player to me. I like everyone else, but I’m not going to cry if they go. I trust Beane to do the right thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Agreed about jones. I’ve retracted that statement. I think the chiefs did the right thing too…..yesterday. But they made a MAJOR blunder by drafting Clyde rd 1. That move could potentially keep them from other titles. They should’ve went WR or corner. Cautionary tale to those wanting Breece Hall. I also think the Chiefs made the right decision. There's zero chance they could compete at the level needed by paying Hill what he received from Miami. That said.. The Chiefs aura was Mahomes/Hill/Kelce. It was so unique to defend.. no other team has an elite QB, with the most explosive WR the league has ever seen and the league's top TE. Hill unlocked everything on that Offense because you have to bracket him, while in a normal world, would be bracketing Kelce. I've never seen anything like it.. They'll be ok. They'll have an explosive offense. But they will never replicate Hill in his prime + Kelce in his prime. We've never seen that before, and likely never will again. Now they're best bet is to field a Mahomes-led Offense like the Bengals. Elite QB with weapons all over. However, A) That is defensible and B) they are absolutely kicking themselves for wasting a RD1 pick on CEH looking at their roster on March 24th 2022. Edited March 24, 2022 by SCBills 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I would tell him that if he balls out this year, we will make sure he gets paid one way or another (either with us or another team via trade). Hopefully it doesn’t become an issue with sitting out for a new contract. He is underpaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I can't see Diggs playing this season with the Bills under his present contract. Right now he's keeping his mouth shut & letting his agent work behind the scenes with the Bills, but if he doesn't get a new deal he won't be playing the good soldier like he currently is. I think the posters who are saying just let him play this season without any adjustments are dreaming. Diggs isn't going to be playing under his current contract-book it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: Do a Von Miller type 3 year deal. Real money for adams and Hill is 22 and 25 mil per year. Do it now use he current deal to message the cap hit. Go get it. Kc is retooling but Hill is a massive blow. Strike now. The problem is that 3 year extension is ages 31, 32, 33... he might be cooked at age 32. Julio Jones had 99 Rec for 1394 yards age 30, and has been utterly useless age 31 and 32, now cut only 1 year after Ten traded a 2nd rounder. The fact of the matter is not a single WR age 30+ had 1,000 yards last year... in fact the highest yardage by a WR age 30 or older last year was AJ Green with 848 Yards, good for 32nd in the NFL... and to make matters worse there were only 3 WR age 30+ that had even 700 yards -- Green, Marvin Jones, and Theilen. We have Diggs signed through age 30. Edited March 24, 2022 by ArtVandalay 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 years 60 million fully guaranteed.. spread it out over 5 or 6 years and add fluff money if needed. but 3 years 60M guaranteed is my best offer or I move for a return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, julian said: 3 years 60 million fully guaranteed.. spread it out over 5 or 6 years and add fluff money if needed. but 3 years 60M guaranteed is my best offer or I move for a return. He’d laugh and likely become malcontent immediately after receiving it. You’d 💯 have to trade him. 20M is disrespectful at this point. i thought we would have tried to extend him last offseason @ around 21M. 25M @ is Probably his floor now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeviF Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: I can't see Diggs playing this season with the Bills under his present contract. Right now he's keeping his mouth shut & letting his agent work behind the scenes with the Bills, but if he doesn't get a new deal he won't be playing the good soldier like he currently is. I think the posters who are saying just let him play this season without any adjustments are dreaming. Diggs isn't going to be playing under his current contract-book it. This is possible. He restructured last season to give us cap flexibility and I would assume they had some "let's talk extension this time next year" type conversations at that time. That said it's the busy season for the FO and extensions aren't on the top of the to-do list at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, SCBills said: Cautionary tale to those wanting Breece Hall. I also think the Chiefs made the right decision. There's zero chance they could compete at the level needed by paying Hill what he received from Miami. That said.. The Chiefs aura was Mahomes/Hill/Kelce. It was so unique to defend.. no other team has an elite QB, with the most explosive WR the league has ever seen and the league's top TE. Hill unlocked everything on that Offense because you have to bracket him, while in a normal world, would be bracketing Kelce. I've never seen anything like it.. They'll be ok. They'll have an explosive offense. But they will never replicate Hill in his prime + Kelce in his prime. We've never seen that before, and likely never will again. Now they're best bet is to field a Mahomes-led Offense like the Bengals. Elite QB with weapons all over. However, A) That is defensible and B) they are absolutely kicking themselves for wasting a RD1 pick on CEH looking at their roster on March 24th 2022. I think the Steelers are kinda happy with Najee Harris so it really depends on the team 12 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: I can't see Diggs playing this season with the Bills under his present contract. Right now he's keeping his mouth shut & letting his agent work behind the scenes with the Bills, but if he doesn't get a new deal he won't be playing the good soldier like he currently is. I think the posters who are saying just let him play this season without any adjustments are dreaming. Diggs isn't going to be playing under his current contract-book it. Then he gets traded and life goes on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Guess is who is making interesting comments on twitter today... Quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Diggs has two paths he can follow, which is stay in Buffalo and give a hometown discount while winning and possibly becoming legend or get his most money somewhere else. I know the money is partially ego but his family is set for several life's so he might help us out. Either way I hope he does well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’d laugh and likely become malcontent immediately after receiving it. You’d 💯 have to trade him. 20M is disrespectful at this point. i thought we would have tried to extend him last offseason @ around 21M. 25M @ is Probably his floor now You may be right, I was being more hopeful of Diggs wanting to stay but I won’t blame him for insisting on fair market value. I just hope if Bean decides to pay him 25M+ that it’s 3 years MAX and continue drafting WRs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Beane will manage Diggs. That's his job. He is the manager. Get through one more season b4 Josh's new contract makes things more challenging,. I just don't think Diggs will be rocking the boat... doesn't seem like that is him. Plus I imagine Beane has an understanding with him. It's just a sense I have since Diggs should have been complaining a while ago when he was catching 120+ balls but he wasn't ... Who knows. We are entering salary cap management la la land. Seems like anything can be managed within the cap, as long as it keeps increasing. We all need to tune our TVs to NFL football for everygame , all day Sunday, Sat, Thurs, Mon. even if you're not home.. keep those ratings up !! Keep that TV deal $$ increasing! Your roster depends on it! We need YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, julian said: You may be right, I was being more hopeful of Diggs wanting to stay but I won’t blame him for insisting on fair market value. I just hope if Bean decides to pay him 25M+ that it’s 3 years MAX and continue drafting WRs Not for 20M aav he ain’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Adams 67.5 guaranteed and Hill 75 mil. I think 60 to 65 over 3 years guaranteed is do able. A Von Miller type 6 year deal would bring down Diggs cap hit to allow Buffalo to resign Bates and sign a possible Cb. I think its almost a must. I dont want to go into the draft with holes in the secondary and Oline. That looks like where they are heading without resigning him. 51 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: The problem is that 3 year extension is ages 31, 32, 33... he might be cooked at age 32. Julio Jones had 99 Rec for 1394 yards age 30, and has been utterly useless age 31 and 32, now cut only 1 year after Ten traded a 2nd rounder. The fact of the matter is not a single WR age 30+ had 1,000 yards last year... in fact the highest yardage by a WR age 30 or older last year was AJ Green with 848 Yards, good for 32nd in the NFL... and to make matters worse there were only 3 WR age 30+ that had even 700 yards -- Green, Marvin Jones, and Theilen. We have Diggs signed through age 30. Pay him over the next 3 years. Escape hatch after 3. 3 year deal with 2 or 3 years of Bs on the end. Edited March 24, 2022 by Mat68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Beane will manage Diggs. That's his job. He is the manager. Get through one more season b4 Josh's new contract makes things more challenging,. I just don't think Diggs will be rocking the boat... doesn't seem like that is him. Plus I imagine Beane has an understanding with him. It's just a sense I have since Diggs should have been complaining a while ago when he was catching 120+ balls but he wasn't ... Who knows. We are entering salary cap management la la land. Seems like anything can be managed within the cap, as long as it keeps increasing. We all need to tune our TVs to NFL football for everygame , all day Sunday, Sat, Thurs, Mon. even if you're not home.. keep those ratings up !! Keep that TV deal $$ increasing! Your roster depends on it! We need YOU! I think it makes more sense cap wise to do it now. Create space for Bates and a Corner keep the #1 locked in for Allen. Or create space get picks. Going as is through the year will be a struggle. Oline and Db depth will be a problem. Plus need upgrades at other spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Ha, it was the strategic work of my fiance lol. We "fostered" in September, but I knew and she knew she was gonna fall in love and want to adopt him. But our "plan" was to wait to adopt a pup until after the wedding this June. We had a Hawaii wedding to attend in February, a few other trips between now and June, then we are gone almost all of June for wedding then headed to Italy for honeymoon. So it just was gonna be easier to wait. Her SECRET plan...name the foster pup after something I love to break me down and want to keep the pup haha. She knew that I had said my next dog I wanted to name Diggs, such a good name for a dog too. So of course first thing she did was suggest we name it Diggs, which is a great name for him. She's a huge Niners fan, could have easily named him Deebo, but she went with Diggs so I would cave...and it worked lmao. Now of course she wants a second dog as a playmate for Diggs, which she is gonna probably push for when we get back from our honeymoon...and if its a boy, she wants to name that one Deebo lol. Smart lady. Deebo would be a good name too. I wanted Diggs or Beasley. I got neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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