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47 minutes ago, appoo said:

If the Bills could get a 2nd or possibly 3rd for Edmunds whip signing Myles to a cheaper deal than I absolutely swing that - and I like Edmunds 

If the Bills could get 2nd or 3rd for Edmunds thez would im just draft Edmunds replacement with that pick imo.

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4 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

The question is - how good, reliable, affordable and available is Myles Jack? 

 

We can use an upgrade at LB. I just don't know if Jack is that player


The Jags don’t want him.  What else is there to know?  
 

I’d take him on a prove it deal only

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17 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

 

It isn't BS.  Here's a list of tackles for loss last year.  If you want to see Edmunds, get that scrolling finger warmed up ... https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/defense-tackles-for-loss

 

You said the DL could all do their job and Edmunds would be hesitant. That's BS.

 

Also remember everyone has different roles. When we played NE in the wind game it was Milano he told to just shoot the gap, not Edmunds. They have different roles.

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24 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Led league in tackles last year. Can't say I watch any jags games though.

Pozluszny type lb'er padding stats with tackles that are first downs?

 

No he didn't.

 

3 tackles for loss and no sacks.  No pass break ups or INTs.  

 

Get rid of the name and actually watch the player

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20 minutes ago, Virgil said:


The Jags don’t want him.  What else is there to know?  
 

I’d take him on a prove it deal only

 

Jack led the Jags with 108 tackles last year, his sixth season in Jacksonville. Ultimately, however, he was the victim of a numbers crunch, and the team had no room for the remainder of his four-year, $57MM deal.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2022/03/jaguars-to-release-myles-jack

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1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

So you're happy with what you've seen in Edmunds?

Jeez, you anti Edmunds guys just can’t control yourselves, 😂

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1 hour ago, appoo said:

If the Bills could get a 2nd or possibly 3rd for Edmunds whip signing Myles to a cheaper deal than I absolutely swing that - and I like Edmunds 

Jack is so much better than Edmunds it's not even close. We still have to find a trade partner willing to absorb that ridiculous 13M.  So far I don't see teams lining up.

4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Jeez, you anti Edmunds guys just can’t control yourselves, 😂

Geez, you delusional Tremaine lovers just can't control yourselves...😜

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1 hour ago, appoo said:

If the Bills could get a 2nd or possibly 3rd for Edmunds whip signing Myles to a cheaper deal than I absolutely swing that - and I like Edmunds 

 

For some reason, I tend to agree with you. It's a value thing, if you can pay a guy less and get close to or equivalent production, it is a better value.

 

Now, I do know enough about Miles Jack to say that he is at Edmunds level--or better or worse. But, I think it worth a serious look if the ROI is better.

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16 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Jack is so much better than Edmunds it's not even close. We still have to find a trade partner willing to absorb that ridiculous 13M.  So far I don't see teams lining up.

Geez, you delusional Tremaine lovers just can't control yourselves...😜

We all know Tremaine certainly needs work, but we don’t feel the need to say it in every thread 😁👍

 

Go Bills!!!

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2 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

 

No he didn't.

 

3 tackles for loss and no sacks.  No pass break ups or INTs.  

 

Get rid of the name and actually watch the player

I misread a tweet from the cover 1 guys.

And I literally said "I don't watch jags games" lol why would anyone? Was a question about how he racked up his tackles

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3 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

 

It isn't BS.  Here's a list of tackles for loss last year.  If you want to see Edmunds, get that scrolling finger warmed up ... https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/defense-tackles-for-loss

 


But see this is a flawed analysis.  What you hate is how Edmunds is used.  He isn’t used as a penetrating LB, he used almost like a 3rd safety out there.

 

People want to see these splash plays behind the LOS, but that’s just not how we frequently use him.  

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1 hour ago, Buffalo619 said:

Fun fact.  Whaley wanted to draft Myles in the second round but had to settle for Ragland. 

Ragland did get us Hughes. Jack would be a distant memory if we had drafted him then.

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PFF Grades (For those who put some merit in them)

 

Edmunds

2021: 50.4

2020: 47.9

2019: 60.6

2018: 57.0

 

Jack

2021: 37.7

2020: 69.1

2019: 45.9

2018: 68.3

2017: 71.7

 

I honestly don't think either is the answer for the Bills short or long term.  Picking up Edmunds option was a mistake as Ive said since they did it.

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12 hours ago, Billy Zabka said:

PFF Grades (For those who put some merit in them)

 

Edmunds

2021: 50.4

2020: 47.9

2019: 60.6

2018: 57.0

 

Jack

2021: 37.7

2020: 69.1

2019: 45.9

2018: 68.3

2017: 71.7

 

I honestly don't think either is the answer for the Bills short or long term.  Picking up Edmunds option was a mistake as Ive said since they did it.

That’s why I’d like the Bills to pursue a trade rather than an extension. Something tells me the Edmunds camp has a dollar amount much higher than what the Bills value him and that’s why we haven’t seen an extension yet.

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On 3/15/2022 at 12:02 PM, Udubalum07 said:

I would prefer if we could get a 2nd for Tremaine and draft Chad Muma. Much more of an instinctive, playmaking middle linebacker. Use the cap savings to sign Chandler Jones. 

Good luck getting the second.  I have to believe if that offer was made it would be done.  Shed that contract and get a longer term solution in place, yep!

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15 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Oh well....there goes another one that would've been cheaper & better than Edmunds. Pittsburgh is quietly building an interesting team.  Gotta love that brilliant 12.7 option. 

That’s the sort of contract that I feel Edmunds is worth. I saw PFF had Jack above a 60 grade in 3 of his 5 years with a high of 74 while Edmunds has only been at 60 once, which is also the highest he’s ever been graded.

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4 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

That’s the sort of contract that I feel Edmunds is worth. I saw PFF had Jack above a 60 grade in 3 of his 5 years with a high of 74 while Edmunds has only been at 60 once, which is also the highest he’s ever been graded.

I watched Jack at UCLA.  He is a baller and has so much more instincts than we're ever going to see from Tremaine. It's ironic because I think Myles is a 9-10M/yr guy production wise. And I have Tremaine's value as a glorified strong safety as 8/yr.  I'm sure Beane has at least inquired trading 49. And I bet they're are very few suitors. I'm afraid we're flat out stuck with him this season.

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