Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Sounds like we are drafting Araiza😉😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said: There's no way they think he's the guy. He's legitimately the worst in the nfl and had arguably one of the worst single games in nfl history, and we are restructuring..... are we paying him 1 mill to just hold? His guarantee was cancelled so no. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I have a feeling that this thread is going to get pushed to page 5 come Monday! 😁 Punter talk, sadly, is what we have til FA begins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Sounds like we are drafting Araiza😉😉 As little as I think we’ll be punting, I’d consider him in round 5. Haack did the right thing in taking a paycut. His next job may not play games on sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 The fixation on a punter on a team with a top D and top 3 O is mystifying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Well, hopefully his services aren't needed that frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: His guarantee was cancelled so no. If you calm down and look into this you will figure it out. He will have ro compete for the job and can be morw easily replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I would be fine if Araiza was selected in the 1st round by Buffalo. Ray Guy was a 1st round pick and that really paid dividends to the Raiders for years. It's a game of field position and if you have a punter that can add 20 or so yards to the average punt, you have something very special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: The fixation on a punter on a team with a top D and top 3 O is mystifying. Week 1 disagrees...we lost the ability to host KC by 1 solitary game. You may not need a great punter all the time, but if a critical game comes down to a big punt I'd rather have Araiza then some Haack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 The fact that Haack accepted such a renegotiation of his contract suggests he understands how bad he stunk this past season. I'll be elated if the Bills replace him, but at least his contract is less of a cap liability now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: Why?? Cut him!! He’s terrible. Why? They can cut him at any time. They gain nothing except making you feel better by doing it now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: Why?? Cut him!! He’s terrible. They got rid of the guarantee. They will draft a punter in the late rounds. If they go with the rookie the savings will only be about 600k. If Haack kicks better then he is still cheap. Good move that won't make one bit of difference on the 2022 season outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Sounds like we are drafting Araiza😉😉 The draft is unpredictable.....I think it is insurance in case they DONT get the punter they might be targeting 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 12 hours ago, 13 Second Prevent Defense said: Ok fine. Can we change his position to “holder”? If he’s strictly a punter, and we do the math, if he were to punt twice a game on average for 17 games, with the time it takes him to get it off this is barely minimum wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 "#DUUUVAL Logan Cooke is that young superstar to build the team around" "-if the Packers win it all, it will be because they signed bojo" I mean I get that they're an account dedicated to punters, but holy crap I think they're a little too high on their own supply. You don't win championships, or build teams around, punters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The fixation on a punter on a team with a top D and top 3 O is mystifying. You just need a guy who doesn't mess up. Unfortunately the Bills have Matt Haack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: You just need a guy who doesn't mess up. Unfortunately the Bills have Matt Haack. I have a hard time believing he’s gonna be on this team when we go into the season even if he is being paid $1 million dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 23 hours ago, st pete gogolak said: I guess they don't plan on punting next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 14 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Week 1 disagrees...we lost the ability to host KC by 1 solitary game. You may not need a great punter all the time, but if a critical game comes down to a big punt I'd rather have Araiza then some Haack. 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: You just need a guy who doesn't mess up. Unfortunately the Bills have Matt Haack. SB bound teams don't blame a blocked punt in week 1 (where a crappy Steelers Offense scored 10 other points in the 4th Q and the Bills couldn't covert a 4th and 1 on the Steelers 41) on their inability to lock up home field advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: SB bound teams don't blame a blocked punt in week 1 (where a crappy Steelers Offense scored 10 other points in the 4th Q and the Bills couldn't covert a 4th and 1 on the Steelers 41) on their inability to lock up home field advantage. Maybe not but I would settle for a punter who can do the basics. Haack just plain sucks. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: SB bound teams don't blame a blocked punt in week 1 (where a crappy Steelers Offense scored 10 other points in the 4th Q and the Bills couldn't covert a 4th and 1 on the Steelers 41) on their inability to lock up home field advantage. Nor is a blocked punt, outside a mishandled snap, the punter’s fault… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Maybe not but I would settle for a punter who can do the basics. Haack just plain sucks. He does the basics. Filed position was not a real problem for this defense. His negative impact was imperceptible. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 16 hours ago, Augie said: If he’s strictly a punter, and we do the math, if he were to punt twice a game on average for 17 games, with the time it takes him to get it off this is barely minimum wage. I heard that they are still waiting for him to sign the new contract, they handed him a pen yesterday, he almost has it set up for writing. Hold on, does this pen click or twist, oh wait, it might just have a cap. Looks like the Bills might have his replacement here before he's actually ready. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Do we not remember the two 20 yard shanks against the Jets? That was the only thing that kept them in the game. His best games were average, his average games were bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 21 hours ago, Doc Brown said: How hard is it to be a good holder? You catch the ball and make sure the laces are out. Apparently hard enough to the point that it impacts a kickers accuracy. Bojo holding for Mason Crosby must have had some sort of negative impact on Crosby in Green Bay as Crosby went from having a 100% kick accuracy in 2020 (and 91% in 2019) to 73.5% in 2021. I can't say the holding was cause for all of that regression but it had to have had a negative impact of some sort. Meanwhile Bass took a major leap up with Haack holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 How many here will be wearing paper bags over your heads ala Donahoe anti-fans if Hauck remains on roster? I expect some will be bashing both no matter how well Hauck performs this year. I am glad Coach McD has confidence in ST Assistant to take over SC Duties but I think they need an additional ST coach who has experience with kicking. Based on some posts here STs should be minimum investment so maybe some worker at Dollar Tree who kicked in college would be willing to do that job as an unpaid intern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Apparently hard enough to the point that it impacts a kickers accuracy. Bojo holding for Mason Crosby must have had some sort of negative impact on Crosby in Green Bay as Crosby went from having a 100% kick accuracy in 2020 (and 91% in 2019) to 73.5% in 2021. I can't say the holding was cause for all of that regression but it had to have had a negative impact of some sort. Meanwhile Bass took a major leap up with Haack holding. Yes. I get it. Bojo should not be a holder because he sucks at it. My wife sucks at making grilled cheese sandwiches but most people are perfectly capable of making them. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Yes. I get it. Bojo should not be a holder because he sucks at it. My wife sucks at making grilled cheese sandwiches but most people are perfectly capable of making them. How in the... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc said: How in the... Some have not figured cheese goes inside. Grilling a piece of bread with cheese on top and bottom does not work so well even though you would think it is good for you get twice as much cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Just now, Doc said: How in the... The cheese is usually not completely melted. The butter to bread ratio is always off. I have to make them which is criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Some have not figured cheese goes inside. Grilling a piece of bread with cheese on top and bottom does not work so well even though you would think it is good for you get twice as much cheese. My wife (who is an amazing cook) used to make grill cheese sandwiches by pressing the living ***** out of them, and they'd come out flat. But even still they were good. The only way to ruin a GCS is if it burns. Edited March 13, 2022 by Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Billy Claude said: Do we not remember the two 20 yard shanks against the Jets? That was the only thing that kept them in the game. His best games were average, his average games were bad. Don't forget about that 7 yard kick in the same game where he dropped the snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Don't forget about that 7 yard kick in the same game where he dropped the snap. It seems like everybody defending the move is focusing on the block punt against the Steelers and forgetting how bad Haack was the rest of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 This dude literally destroyed our season with that punt block against Pittsburgh and it didn't get much better from there. Piss poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Yes. I get it. Bojo should not be a holder because he sucks at it. My wife sucks at making grilled cheese sandwiches but most people are perfectly capable of making them. All fair points, but I think Sanders from Miami suffered regression in 2021 when he had a different holder. Catching a long snap and getting it down quickly is not easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 12 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Maybe not but I would settle for a punter who can do the basics. Haack just plain sucks. He sucks at everything punting…..but he’s a good holder. Maybe they plan on going for it every 4th down and Haack is now strictly just a holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 hours ago, billsfan89 said: All fair points, but I think Sanders from Miami suffered regression in 2021 when he had a different holder. Catching a long snap and getting it down quickly is not easy. I get where you're coming from and I know a kicker needs a holder he is comfortable with. Find a new punter who can hold and is an upgrade at punter. Get a million reps in before the regular season and Bass should be fine. I've never heard of sacrificing punting because a guy holds the ball well. It's bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 10 hours ago, Bferra13 said: This dude literally destroyed our season with that punt block against Pittsburgh and it didn't get much better from there. Piss poor. He literally did not destroy the season. Repeating a bad take doesn't make it sound better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 8:04 AM, davefan66 said: 135 million put him in the middle of NFL punter salaries. I guess those guys don’t get paid much. what a terrible initial signing if his pay cut puts him in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: what a terrible initial signing if his pay cut puts him in the middle. He’s not good. Had a need, not sure who else was available at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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