SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Not that this is something new. Florio shared two notable pieces of reporting from the Deflategate saga that began after the 2014 AFC Championship Game, when ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported that 11 of the Patriots' 12 game footballs were underinflated by at least two pounds each. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-nfl-covered-key-deflategate-150631069.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) So...the league will compensate them with more conditional draft picks? 🤔 Edited February 9, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: So...the league will compensate them with more conditional draft picks? 🤔 If story is true, Pats have a good reason to get those picks that they lost back. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 this league has become a corrupt third world dictatorship. I hope the USFL cleans their clock 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 bury the lead....protect the shield....move along......rinse repeat 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 No Way!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Goodell's NFL at it's finest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Florio has favored New England in many opinions and columns so I do not see this as "evidence". There were other clear breakages of rules on this which he is trying to wave his hands and make disappear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Man, every day it's something in today's NFL. An owner or coach being accused of some bad behavior. A player (or a few) being arrested. Getting harder and harder to support. If we didn't have Josh Allen and were finally a real contender I'm not sure I'd even watch anymore. Way too often NFL Network turns into the nightly news with stories of lawsuits and legal battles. Arrests. Scandal. COVID, Vaccination...It's Hard Copy now because of those that play in and run the NFL. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Evian said: The NFL is as shady as every other business. Sports really are just meaningless entertainment though, so nobody cares. The Covid scam was the best though. Not a single player missed a playoff game with Covid. It magically disappeared and all the government officials making kids wear masks showed up at the NFC title game with no masks. If there was a league of liars, the Superbowl of lying would be between the NFL and State of California Goverment. 😂 It seems the Pats*** are the only team getting away with obvious cheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 F em.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, prissythecat said: If story is true, Pats have a good reason to get those picks that they lost back. They have fallen upon hard times, haven't they...😢 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 29 minutes ago, Evian said: The NFL is as shady as every other business. Sports really are just meaningless entertainment though, so nobody cares. The Covid scam was the best though. Not a single player missed a playoff game with Covid. It magically disappeared and all the government officials making kids wear masks showed up at the NFC title game with no masks. If there was a league of liars, the Superbowl of lying would be between the NFL and State of California Goverment. 😂 because they stopped testing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Goodell was just being vindictive after Brady destroyed the cell phone and gave the commiss ***** in the media after everything the shield had done for NE during spygate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Not that this is something new. Florio shared two notable pieces of reporting from the Deflategate saga that began after the 2014 AFC Championship Game, when ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported that 11 of the Patriots' 12 game footballs were underinflated by at least two pounds each. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-nfl-covered-key-deflategate-150631069.html Are we really going to revisit Deflategate? Who cares? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Are we really going to revisit Deflategate? Who cares? The real story with Deflategate was the fumbles, or the lack of fumbles for the Patriots over many years by several standard deviations lower than the 2nd lowest team. Deflated balls are harder to fumble. https://slate.com/culture/2015/01/stats-show-the-new-england-patriots-became-nearly-fumble-proof-after-a-2006-rule-change-pushed-by-tom-brady.html People should care. It's a great example of how effective the Pats were at cheating for years. These things add up. 1 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Suffering Fan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, LeviF said: Goodell was just being vindictive after Brady destroyed the cell phone and gave the commiss ***** in the media after everything the shield had done for NE during spygate. This. We are on the outside and will never know what really happened, but I really think you have to consider spygate when you talk about the NFL reaction to deflategate. Remember also that Goodell is often the personification of the owners. I'm sure there were a ton of owners who kept it quiet, but were furious at Kraft and the Patriots over spygate. They bit their tongues a little because, if it is bad for the shield, then it actually is bad for them. Proof that the Pats cheated in Superbowls would definitely hurt the shield. So, the tape evidence is destroyed on the spot and the owners go along....but they must have been seething. Especially the ones that felt that their team may have been robbed by the Pats cheating. Then, deflategate comes (more Pats cheating) and they are in no mood to be forgiving. I bet Goodell had no choice but to come down hard. Edited February 9, 2022 by Long Suffering Fan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Florio is head ball-washer for Cheatriots, Inc., according to the org chart at www.cheatriotway.com. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 lol, heads are exploding.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: The real story with Deflategate was the fumbles, or the lack of fumbles for the Patriots over many years by several standard deviations lower than the 2nd lowest team. Deflated balls are harder to fumble. https://slate.com/culture/2015/01/stats-show-the-new-england-patriots-became-nearly-fumble-proof-after-a-2006-rule-change-pushed-by-tom-brady.html People should care. It's a great example of how effective the Pats were at cheating for years. These things add up. Bill Belichick is the Richard Nixon of the NFL. Didn’t need to cheat but did anyway 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Bill Belichick is the Richard Nixon of the NFL. Didn’t need to cheat but did anyway "Errrm, uhhh, gonna (inaudible) the tape, but, uhhh, errrm, uhh, not a crook." -Bill Belichick, probably. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Not that this is something new. Florio shared two notable pieces of reporting from the Deflategate saga that began after the 2014 AFC Championship Game, when ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported that 11 of the Patriots' 12 game footballs were underinflated by at least two pounds each. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-nfl-covered-key-deflategate-150631069.html Of Course They Did, because the NFL also covered up and destroyed evidence that incriminated the Patriots during Spygate Deflategate was Payback All the Way 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Are we really going to revisit Deflategate? Who cares? who cares? seems there are plenty of comments so far. so someone must 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Reading that was a waste of time. It's just a bunch of "rumors" based on no evidence at all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 When it comes to the Patriots*, Mike Florio can be trusted about as much as the Patriots*. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, prissythecat said: If story is true, Pats have a good reason to get those picks that they lost back. Yes, but we're not going to get Will Wolford back and the Pats aren't going to get those picks back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, stuvian said: this league has become a corrupt third world dictatorship. I hope the USFL cleans their clock Yeah, that's really going to happen with a minor league that isn't even playing in the cities that the team names say they are from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I don't understand how people can feel good winning at something if they cheated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Never mind the text messages between Brady and the equipment manager which showed evidence that the equipment manager was the one who stole the footballs and deflated them before the games, then quickly but them back before anyone saw a thing. Edited February 9, 2022 by Jerry Jabber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 eh at a certain point it became less about deflated footballs and more about a lack of cooperation with the investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 30 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I don't understand how people can feel good winning at something if they cheated. When you saw the Patriots celebrate after winning any of the Super Bowls, they weren't celebrating the championships. They were just happy that they didn't get caught this time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Oh well, just give it to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 The NFL (which is the owners group) IS A COMPLETE JOKE. The Game is fun to watch but the organization that is the “ owners/league” are a bunch of money grubbing/worshiping walking character flaws, it’s the dumb & dumber gang, “Ready, Fire, Aim,” that should be their motto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Bills and Jets complained about NE deflating footballs for 4 years before they were officially "caught". NFL is a joke and needs a total clean-up to get rid of the corruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 As much as I hated New England at the time, it just seemed like a silly thing to freak out over. So the balls are a little deflated... Just seemed weak, although I did enjoy their misery. Of course, like always, Brady and Co. got over on everyone by beating Seattle in the Super Bowl that year so there is that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, BuffaloFan68 said: Bills and Jets complained about NE deflating footballs for 4 years before they were officially "caught". NFL is a joke and needs a total clean-up to get rid of the corruption. There’s no corruption in the NFL Humans are innately good. Didn’t you know that? They don’t ever cheat or bend the rules. Stop being so dramatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Deflate Gate was a makeup call for Spygate and all the other nonsense they had gotten away with over the years. Remember how everyone's headset stopped working at key moments in the playoffs? I'm guessing a lot of that was the inmates running the asylum but there was a reason the majority of the owners wanted action from the league after they found out about the football pressure. The Pats earned all of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 The Patriots created a mystique, a sort of psychological warfare that had teams and players looking over their shoulders expecting the boogeyman at every turn. Walking into Gillette in a playoff game was like being left alone in a haunted asylum. Your mind plays tricks on you, and you build them up into something much more than they are. That was their greatest edge. You just KNEW something was up, even if you couldn't put your finger on it. They found a way to pressure teams psychologically and in a game of inches that little edge can be huge. When you're expecting disaster to strike it has a way of happening for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 hours ago, stuvian said: this league has become a corrupt third world dictatorship. I hope the USFL cleans their clock I see Russian troops massing at Ukrane's border... 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: When it comes to the Patriots*, Mike Florio can be trusted about as much as the Patriots*. Florio's idea of obtaining intel is buying team sources and player agents drinks. * The Patriots idea of intel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Of Course They Did, because the NFL also covered up and destroyed evidence that incriminated the Patriots during Spygate Deflategate was Payback All the Way Was going to post this. Im sure the NFL owners agreed to make Spygate go away to benefit the league as a whole and the Patriots agreed that the nonsense was over. This football thing happened and behind closed doors the other owners were irate. Deflategate was in some ways a correction on spygate leniency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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