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4 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

I've lived in Buffalo, SF, DC, LA, spent plenty of time in NYC, and now live in San Diego, and the pizza in Buffalo, on the whole, is as good or better than any I've had elsewhere.  You can find a good slice in pretty much any major city - well, outside of DC which can't seem to get anything right - but it's much easier to find a good slice in Buffalo, imo.

 

Oh, and thanks to Hapless for ruining my appetite for the day with his Pizza Hut story.  I needed to drop a couple of pounds anyway.  

 

Having lived in/near Buffalo, St Louis, San Diego, Indianapolis, Atlanta, Savannah, San Francisco, Seattle, and Atlanta and visiting 46 of the 50 states, I wholeheartedly agree.   I've found good pizza in almost every city I've been to.   But the average pie in a lot of cities is pretty disappointing.  The average pizza in Buffalo is pretty good.  

 

I'm not a homer.  I don't think Buffalo has great food overall.  The best wings I've ever eaten were outside Buffalo.   But I honestly believe that Buffalo - on the whole - easily has the best pizza of any city I've lived.  

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38 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said:

You guys think you know bad pizza?  Try Colorado where they slap this monstrosity in front of you, along with a squeeze bottle of honey to choke down that sahara desert they call a crust 

 

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That looks awesome, I need that pie.

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Why would anyone ever go to a Pizza Hut in Buffalo when they can go to La Nova or Bocce or one of the other two dozen great pizzarias?  I can't imagine there are all that many transplants here who want chain pizza for a taste of "home".  Most transplants we have here are from NYC who would also presumably not like Pizza Hut.

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44 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said:

You guys think you know bad pizza?  Try Colorado where they slap this monstrosity in front of you, along with a squeeze bottle of honey to choke down that sahara desert they call a crust 

 

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That ..... looks like sauce and cheese served in a bread bowl.

 

We had a pizza in Colorado recently.  It wasn't nearly that awful, but it wasn't good.  It was like lower-tier ordinary pizza.  But it wasn't at a noted pizzaria or anything, just a local grill.

2 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

Why would anyone ever go to a Pizza Hut in Buffalo when they can go to La Nova or Bocce or one of the other two dozen great pizzarias?  I can't imagine there are all that many transplants here who want chain pizza for a taste of "home".  Most transplants we have here are from NYC who would also presumably not like Pizza Hut.

 

I think that was SnapFlow69 's point, to which Mongo replied that Buffalo pizza is "vomit" (implying Pizza Hut pizza is better).

 

Mongo is dead to me now.

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17 hours ago, Sharky7337 said:

It's been about 15 years since I lived I'm buffalo. My favorite pizza in western NY was always Pontillos. I don't recall ever having bad or amazing pizza living in Buffalo.

 

Rochester I know for a fact has amazing pizza.

 

So I'm gonna say he's bitter cause he's about to be sliced.

 

Actually now I remember getting slices on Elmwood when I was at buff state.

 

And it was good.

 

Ya he's crazy.

 

Now here in Raleigh, there's no good pizza imo

Yeah, Rochester has been named the best pizza city in the country.  There are probably 15 pizza restaurants within a 5 minute drive of my house.  The closest one happens to be Giuseppi's, the oldest pizza restaurant in the Rochester area.

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1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Having lived in/near Buffalo, St Louis, San Diego, Indianapolis, Atlanta, Savannah, San Francisco, Seattle, and Atlanta and visiting 46 of the 50 states, I wholeheartedly agree.   I've found good pizza in almost every city I've been to.   But the average pie in a lot of cities is pretty disappointing.  The average pizza in Buffalo is pretty good.  

 

I'm not a homer.  I don't think Buffalo has great food overall.  The best wings I've ever eaten were outside Buffalo.   But I honestly believe that Buffalo - on the whole - easily has the best pizza of any city I've lived.  

Hondo, I have lived in Brooklyn for a quarter century but grew up loving pizza in Buffalo. I have to report that pizza in NYC is ... a LOT better than pizza in Buffalo. I don't even enjoy eating the latter anymore, although we always end up with Bocce's on Thanksgiving weekend. I certainly don't DISLIKE Bocce's or La Nova, but it's only a moderate cut above the pizza you can get in anywhere USA. I did live in LA for 8 years, and the average pizza remains terrible there. Buffalo is definitely a better pizza town than LA. The flipside is that the Mexican in LA is out of this world.

 

I do like Chicago pizza a lot, but my view on that is that it's really a different food group and shouldn't be compared with regular pizza.

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7 hours ago, Draconator said:

The best pizza I've ever had was in Brooklyn, at a little shop steps away from Coney Island. 

 

I've also had a love of Chicago Deep Dish. 

 

Buffalo pizza is good however. I keep finding myself going back to Picasso's on the regular. A small shop in Batavia, Cinquino's, has really, really good pizza as well. 

batavia Batavia BATAVIA we ex batavians are everywhere....bwaahaaahaaaa lol Go Blue Devils!~!~!!!!!

 

my last post re: mongo is what he posted was Unkind. Period. his opinion fine but it just not a good look to wnyers.... of course hair will raise up on our necks. U Dissing WNY soon to be ex homeboy?

 

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19 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t make the rules. This is the last straw, he’s not good enough to overcome this. 

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This ^^^ after he gets an erroneous text from Belichick 😎

3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Having lived in/near Buffalo, St Louis, San Diego, Indianapolis, Atlanta, Savannah, San Francisco, Seattle, and Atlanta and visiting 46 of the 50 states, I wholeheartedly agree.   I've found good pizza in almost every city I've been to.   But the average pie in a lot of cities is pretty disappointing.  The average pizza in Buffalo is pretty good.  

 

I'm not a homer.  I don't think Buffalo has great food overall.  The best wings I've ever eaten were outside Buffalo.   But I honestly believe that Buffalo - on the whole - easily has the best pizza of any city I've lived.  

The different varieties of food you can get in Buffalo is the best I’ve had anywhere. From Italian to Indian, you will not be disappointed 

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3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:
3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Having lived in/near Buffalo, St Louis, San Diego, Indianapolis, Atlanta, Savannah, San Francisco, Seattle, and Atlanta and visiting 46 of the 50 states, I wholeheartedly agree.   I've found good pizza in almost every city I've been to.   But the average pie in a lot of cities is pretty disappointing.  The average pizza in Buffalo is pretty good.  

 

I'm not a homer.  I don't think Buffalo has great food overall.  The best wings I've ever eaten were outside Buffalo.   But I honestly believe that Buffalo - on the whole - easily has the best pizza of any city I've lived.  

 

We moved to Indianapolis (from Buffalo) a long time ago.  Pizza in this town is not great...too many crap chain franchises.  One day, we happened to see this place on the west side of Indy.  We tried it and really like their pizza and wings.  They are former Buffalo area transplants who couldn't stand local Indy pizza either and decided to open their own restaurant.  Until now, I had never seen a place outside of Buffalo advertise that they feature WNY pizza!

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Buffalo pizza is amazing. It is a slate crust, the dough resembles more of a bread consistency. Also the ovens used will more likely be bread baking ovens, there is a difference. Just need to go to one of the good spots. 
I’ve had pizza everywhere in the US. Just recently went to New Haven and hit the big 3 pizzerias. I’ve been to John’s on Bleecker in NYC. Tried the different styles of Chicago pies throughout Chicago. I’ve had pizza in Naples, Italy (Neapolitan style isn’t for me). 
Every kind of pizza I’ve ever had is better than Pizza Hut. I’d eaten frozen pizza first. 

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4 hours ago, coloradobillsfan said:

You guys think you know bad pizza?  Try Colorado where they slap this monstrosity in front of you, along with a squeeze bottle of honey to choke down that sahara desert they call a crust 

 

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That's what blue cheese is for.

3 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Anchor Bar has surprisingly good pizza.

Maybe the pizza is good,  but the wings suck. 

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4 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

Food takes aside, I'm 99.9% certain that Feliciano will never play a down for this team again which is a great thing.

 

I so hope so. He is awful!! Don’t understand the love affair with him.

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21 hours ago, Sharky7337 said:

Not every location was the same or good. But two of them in Rochester I did enjoy.

 

this. the one in Bushnells Basin used to be a go to.

that was 35 years ago though.
What exactly does he need from a Pizza ?

very upset with him now ...

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3 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Hondo, I have lived in Brooklyn for a quarter century but grew up loving pizza in Buffalo. I have to report that pizza in NYC is ... a LOT better than pizza in Buffalo. I don't even enjoy eating the latter anymore, although we always end up with Bocce's on Thanksgiving weekend. I certainly don't DISLIKE Bocce's or La Nova, but it's only a moderate cut above the pizza you can get in anywhere USA. I did live in LA for 8 years, and the average pizza remains terrible there. Buffalo is definitely a better pizza town than LA. The flipside is that the Mexican in LA is out of this world.

 

I do like Chicago pizza a lot, but my view on that is that it's really a different food group and shouldn't be compared with regular pizza.

 

David, your knowledge of the two cities in question surpasses mine.   So I'll concede the point about NYC pizza.  

 

My wife has never been to NYC and she's been bugging me to go.   When we do, we want to explore the ethnic restaurants after seeing them on TV with Anthony Bourdain, etc.   But, with your endorsement in mind, we'll hit some pizza places too.  

 

And, yeah, I agree about LA.  The pizza is poor but the Mexican food there is awesome!

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13 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Any of the fellow geezers remember when pizza meant the box of Appian Way opened up, and an interminable amount of time passing before your mother hauled it out of the oven?

        In the 60's I had one every Thursday while watching the Untouchables.  The secret was oregano.  There is an amazing difference with and without oregano.

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23 hours ago, Sharky7337 said:

It's been about 15 years since I lived I'm buffalo. My favorite pizza in western NY was always Pontillos. I don't recall ever having bad or amazing pizza living in Buffalo.

 

Rochester I know for a fact has amazing pizza.

 

So I'm gonna say he's bitter cause he's about to be sliced.

 

Actually now I remember getting slices on Elmwood when I was at buff state.

 

And it was good.

 

Ya he's crazy.

 

Now here in Raleigh, there's no good pizza imo

 

I'm in Raleigh too (Garner area)...love it here, but moving from Ft Lauderdale in Sept of 2020, the food is just not on the same level. So many random hole in the wall strip malls with absolutely amazing food down there. I'm holding out full judgment until I've actually had a chance to really try a bunch of places, but I've lived in Rochester, Boston, South Florida and Raleigh. Granted I was just driving around downtown Raleigh today and there are a ton of restaurants I need to try before I give an honest judgment, but no chance it beats South Florida in terms of amazing food per capita.

 

Best Raleigh pizza I've had so far in my opinion is Demos and then Frank's in that order. For what it's worth South Florida didn't have the best pizza either and I agree, Rochester pizza is legit...Pontilos ftw! Acme's on Monroe has amazing pizza, especially during Tuesday dollar beer night (not sure if that's still a thing like it was back in 2006, which is sooo long ago now!).

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6 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:

 

I'm in Raleigh too (Garner area)...love it here, but moving from Ft Lauderdale in Sept of 2020, the food is just not on the same level. So many random hole in the wall strip malls with absolutely amazing food down there. I'm holding out full judgment until I've actually had a chance to really try a bunch of places, but I've lived in Rochester, Boston, South Florida and Raleigh. Granted I was just driving around downtown Raleigh today and there are a ton of restaurants I need to try before I give an honest judgment, but no chance it beats South Florida in terms of amazing food per capita.

 

Best Raleigh pizza I've had so far in my opinion is Demos and then Frank's in that order. For what it's worth South Florida didn't have the best pizza either and I agree, Rochester pizza is legit...Pontilos ftw! Acme's on Monroe has amazing pizza, especially during Tuesday dollar beer night (not sure if that's still a thing like it was back in 2006, which is sooo long ago now!).

I used to live off Monroe for a long time and ya acmes was good and the tater tots!

 

I'll have to try those places at work they order rosattis and randys and jets pizza. They're not terrible, but I miss western NY pizza for sure.

 

But I mean i feel like Raleigh is def lacking In the good food department (durham / Cary area) here 

 

Took me forever to even find a half edible Chinese place

 

The savings grace is the garbage plate food truck and restaraunt 

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11 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

David, your knowledge of the two cities in question surpasses mine.   So I'll concede the point about NYC pizza.  

 

My wife has never been to NYC and she's been bugging me to go.   When we do, we want to explore the ethnic restaurants after seeing them on TV with Anthony Bourdain, etc.   But, with your endorsement in mind, we'll hit some pizza places too.  

 

And, yeah, I agree about LA.  The pizza is poor but the Mexican food there is awesome!

If you come, don’t hesitate to ask for recs!

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22 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

If you come, don’t hesitate to ask for recs!


Low key the best slice in NYC: NY Pizza Suprema next to Penn Station.  Love Scarr’s too.  L&B Spumoni Gardens for upside-down grandma style.  DiFara of course but it’s a bit overrated (they just use the best ingredients so of course it’s good).

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This explains a lot

 

Feliciano was born in East Meadow, New York. He is from a tight-knit, big Italian family; his paternal grandparents were both Italian immigrants from Sicily, while his maternal grandparents were Puerto Rican. Jon, his mother and younger brother moved to South Florida in the mid-90s. As a child, Feliciano was more interested in designing and playing video games and basketball than in football.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Feliciano

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2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:


Low key the best slice in NYC: NY Pizza Suprema next to Penn Station.  Love Scarr’s too.  L&B Spumoni Gardens for upside-down grandma style.  DiFara of course but it’s a bit overrated (they just use the best ingredients so of course it’s good).

Di Fara is pretty great (their Sicilian, that is), although I haven’t been in years. The thing is, there are four dedicated pizza places and two Italian restaurants that make their own pizza (as part of a broader menu) that are all within a 3-10 minute walk from my house in Park Slope, and they are all excellent in their own ways. So I pretty much stick to them.  
 

Roberta’s in Williamsburg is the bomb (and my favorite). I actually took a cooking class with the two owners about 8 years ago and can make a pretty fair version of their pie myself. I learned a ton about the importance of ingredients. For instance, for the sauce, you gotta use San Marzano whole tomatoes (no other type is nearly as good) and puree them yourself. They said that all tomato companies basically save the best tomatoes for the whole-tomato cans and relegate the second-rate ones to the puree/crushed tomato cans. I did a taste test afterward, and they were absolutely right. Same thing about using the right flour (00 super-fine mixed with good bread flour) and mozzarella. Thankfully, there is a great Italian store up the block that makes their own incredible mozzarella.

 

Lombardi’s on Spring Street and Grimaldi’s in Dumbo are both fantastic too. Long lines, however. Di Fara has long lines too, but if you get there early on the weekend (10:45 am or so) it’s not too bad. 
 

I haven’t tried the other ones you mention. Sounds like I should!

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2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:


Low key the best slice in NYC: NY Pizza Suprema next to Penn Station.  Love Scarr’s too.  L&B Spumoni Gardens for upside-down grandma style.  DiFara of course but it’s a bit overrated (they just use the best ingredients so of course it’s good).


I am a huge Johnnys Mt. Vernon guy if venturing just north of the Bronx. 

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I thought this thread was about Feliciano’s Bills career moving forward 🤣. Speaking to that, his pay to performance ratio is out of whack and though I like him as a backup, his contract is prohibitive.  I don’t give a hoot about his pizza preferences.  For the record, I grew up in Chicago and prefer Chicago style. Geno and Joes is my local fave for authentic NY style. Good local offerings are too numerous to mention. 

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2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

This explains a lot

 

Feliciano was born in East Meadow, New York. He is from a tight-knit, big Italian family; his paternal grandparents were both Italian immigrants from Sicily, while his maternal grandparents were Puerto Rican. Jon, his mother and younger brother moved to South Florida in the mid-90s. As a child, Feliciano was more interested in designing and playing video games and basketball than in football.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Feliciano

FINE i guess he’s qualified to judge pizza 

 

he still sucks and Buffalo pizza is the 🐐

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On 2/3/2022 at 11:00 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So I had a good friend in graduate school who worked as a Pizza Hut shift manager while he was in college.  Champaign/Urbana IIRC.  There were several in the area at the time.

 

One time, he had the closing shift one night and the opening shift the next day.

 

At closing, the procedure was they would put oil in the pans for the deep dish pizza and stack them up, ready for the rush.  They would work their way down one stack, then the next, then the next.

 

So.  That night, unbeknownst to him and with no precautions to cover the cookware or to wash it afterwards, the Hut had bug exterminators in.

 

The next day, a leaden-faced customer came in with deep dish pizza that had one slice cut from it and the piece tossed back in the box, and asked to see the manager.  He flipped the pizza over and told my friend to take a look.  There, baked into the crust, were 4 and 20 cockroaches, baked into a pie.

 

Needless to say, my friend was very apologetic, refunded the guy's money, and offered him anything else he wanted - a new pizza, a gift certificate?  The guy didn't want anything.  He was Done with the Hut.

 

Friend went to check the top pan in each stack - every one full of dead cockroaches.

 

 

 

 

Now see what you have gone and done?! 🤨


Topping tonight's Eyemissed It News, restaurant supply houses and pizza chains large and small remain perplexed at the sudden drop off in pizza orders in WNY the last few days.  "We can't understand it" said Bob Cobb, manager of the PizzaBarge chain.  "Usually cold weather boosts sales, but the sudden drop off is a mystery to all of us in the trade.  Even 'two for one' promotions are going ignored."

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3 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I thought this thread was about Feliciano’s Bills career moving forward 🤣. Speaking to that, his pay to performance ratio is out of whack and though I like him as a backup, his contract is prohibitive.  I don’t give a hoot about his pizza preferences.  For the record, I grew up in Chicago and prefer Chicago style. Geno and Joes is my local fave for authentic NY style. Good local offerings are too numerous to mention. 

 

Feliciano got paid as a starting guard who added value by being able to flip sides and play C.   He lost his starting gig to Boettger and then Bates and he's paid too much to be a backup, especially a 3rd string backup.

 

Boettger earned $2.3M last season but is returning from an Achilles injury.  Not sure what that does for his market.

 

Bates is a UFA can offer Bates a tender if we so choose.  Since he was an UDFA for the Eagles, an "original round" tender is meaningless:

Projected Restricted Free Agent Tenders

Right of 1st Refusal: $2,433,000

Original Draft Round: $2,540,000

2nd Rounder: $3,986,000

1st Rounder: $5,432,000

 

I expect the Bills will try to sign him to a modest 3 year deal, but if he wants to test the market we could offer him a Right of 1st Refusal tender for  projected $2.4M, or a 2nd round tender for projected $3.99M.

 

Feliciano is slated to earn $4.97M this year with $1.5M dead cap, providing $3.47M savings.  This means we could cut Feliciano, offer Bates a 2nd round tender, draft a G or C/G to develop, and it would only cost us $0.52M additional money, and keep "something to build on" intact.

 

It actually wouldn't shock me if Bobby Johnson goes to the Giants, if Beane managed to flip Feliciano to the G-men for a late round pick or lower-on-the roster defensive player who might no longer fit their D if they hire Wink Martindale.

 

 

 

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On 2/4/2022 at 8:15 PM, hondo in seattle said:

 

David, your knowledge of the two cities in question surpasses mine.   So I'll concede the point about NYC pizza.  

 

My wife has never been to NYC and she's been bugging me to go.   When we do, we want to explore the ethnic restaurants after seeing them on TV with Anthony Bourdain, etc.   But, with your endorsement in mind, we'll hit some pizza places too.  

 

And, yeah, I agree about LA.  The pizza is poor but the Mexican food there is awesome!

Yeah, Anthony Bourdain, damn.. really cool guy and I miss that show.

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