Nihilarian Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Good stuff! you had to know that the Bills were not gonna let this guy go to the Giants when their "unicorn" was advocating for him to be their new OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Would really like to know our new OC's philosophy on having a balanced offense 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonBillsfan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Great move by Beane. This guy will be a younger, more unpredictable and better suited to the type of offense Josh wants to run. He provides continuity with his understanding of what Brian did well, a coordination with Josh's passing guru Palmer and comfort zone for the best QB in the industry. If you disagree with the hire,ask yourself if the was Rodgers or Brady asking for a coach or a player, what would any team do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Would really like to know our new OC's philosophy on having a balanced offense Actually, the important question is how does he intend to keep opposing defenses off balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: This tweet has been brought to you today by Ken Dorcey. Vote Ken Dorcey for OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Wait, I thought the Bills screwed up letting him go to the Giants.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Would really like to know our new OC's philosophy on having a balanced offense Me too. Not only that, but the passing offense as well. This move makes so much sense to me, Dorsey has tons of experience, almost a decade in fact working as a QB coach, so it seems that he is more than ripe in terms of being ready for this promotion, but I’m in the same boat as you as far as how this move changes our offense. We should still be running the same offense that Daboll ran last year, you would think so anyways. I suspect that Dorsey will be calling plays from our same playbook as last year! The only difference is Dorsey is calling the plays, not Daboll and I hope to God that Allen gets to call his own plays too at some point because this is the next step for him if he wants to enter the same echelon as Peyton Manning and Tom Brady! It’s great when you have a QB who can make audibles instead of having to take a timeout! And this is the biggest thing that Allen needs to work on this offseason! I do find it curious to see how much turnover our staff has a result of this! Who will our next QB coach be? How many of our other positional coaches will go with Daboll? I think at this point we need another hot shot/up and comer at QB coach for when Dorsey leaves in a few years! I imagine that he is one of the hottest OCs candidates in the NFL at this point! I’m eyeing to see any other changes that will be made to our staff! Edited February 1, 2022 by Victory Formation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 He deserves a shot. That's all I got. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 So there is a good possibility there are fans of different genders / ages here .. can the RACK garbage stop. This is about a new OC .. and it would be nice to think that we could refrain from swimsuit pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 The differing timespans of NFL players’ careers are wild. Just look at that Miami Hurricanes team. Willis McGahee seems like ancient Bills history. Our quarterback was handing off to Frank Gore just two seasons ago. And now Dorsey is our offensive coordinator. wild. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) I kind of leaned toward Dorsey because he knew our system and Josh liked him. I didn't know much else. Nor did I know very much about the other candidates. So I didn't have a strong opinion. But when I heard that Daboll was trying to lure him to Jersey, and he had other courters too, suddenly I wanted Dorsey more than anything else. It's kind of like when you're young and you have a girlfriend who you're kind of indifferent about. But when other guys start making passes at her, you become very possessive and start to value her more. Edited February 1, 2022 by hondo in seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I am good with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 feeling much better today about OC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Would have been crazy to pass up working with Josh Allen and go to work with the train wreck Giants. Smart move by the Bills brass. Continuity is their philosophy. I would have been shocked if they went with someone outside of the organization for such an important role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Would really like to know our new OC's philosophy on having a balanced offense He had to give McDermott a blood oath that he believes in a balanced offense and agree to put up his left nut as a security deposit. I think that last part required some consideration, but a few hours comparing video of Josh Allen and Daniel Jones was persuasive. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 If it's not broke don't fix it , continuity and Josh is happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He had to give McDermott a blood oath that he believes in a balanced offense and agree to put up his left nut as a security deposit. I'd think that coaching Josh Allen would make you fairly confident you were going to get that security deposit back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 He knows the system and he's a guy that knows what it's like to be an nfl qb and how the game works, he may not have been a successful nfl qb but he's been there and knows what to ask of a young qb. Makes it much easier to communicate with josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 So who will be the run game coordinator? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan3482 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Continuity? Yeah thats something. Josh Allen endorsed him, Ok they like each other. If I had a friend or someone I was close with I want to work with him too. I'm fine with promotions from within the organization. But continuity and Allen likes him mean Nothing game time!! If the bills are facing a defense thats giving us trouble, Will Dorsey be able to scheme around that and make on the spot changes?? Is Dorsey a creative thinker as far as Xs and Os? I'm not talking trick plays and wild cat. I'm assuming hes going to have his own complete new playbook?? I guess its a gamble either way, but I dont want our offense to drop off because were giving a first timer a shot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, billsfan3482 said: Continuity? Yeah thats something. Josh Allen endorsed him, Ok they like each other. If I had a friend or someone I was close with I want to work with him too. I'm fine with promotions from within the organization. But continuity and Allen likes him mean Nothing game time!! If the bills are facing a defense thats giving us trouble, Will Dorsey be able to scheme around that and make on the spot changes?? Is Dorsey a creative thinker as far as Xs and Os? I'm not talking trick plays and wild cat. I'm assuming hes going to have his own complete new playbook?? I guess its a gamble either way, but I dont want our offense to drop off because were giving a first timer a shot. I understand your point but apparently 6 NFL teams were looking at him for their OC position. More importantly if Daboll was trying to bring him over to NJ, I would imagine Daboll who worked closest with him would have a good sense, or at least helped teach him how to elevate to coordinator. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 37 minutes ago, Simon said: I'd think that coaching Josh Allen would make you fairly confident you were going to get that security deposit back. Only if you don't succumb to temptation to run the All Josh, All the Time show, instead of running the backs 3 minutes ago, billsfan3482 said: Continuity? Yeah thats something. Josh Allen endorsed him, Ok they like each other. If I had a friend or someone I was close with I want to work with him too. I'm fine with promotions from within the organization. But continuity and Allen likes him mean Nothing game time!! If the bills are facing a defense thats giving us trouble, Will Dorsey be able to scheme around that and make on the spot changes?? Is Dorsey a creative thinker as far as Xs and Os? I'm not talking trick plays and wild cat. I'm assuming hes going to have his own complete new playbook?? I guess its a gamble either way, but I dont want our offense to drop off because were giving a first timer a shot. Right, it's a gamble either way You're either taking a guy who washed out of an OC position elsewhere - maybe not his fault, maybe his side of the ball was great and the other side sucked, or maybe he didn't have great talent to work with, but that's a guess Or You're taking a shot on a guy with a good background, but he's never done it before and the jury is out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 It really doesn’t matter who they hired… people will cry about it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, billsherd said: So who will be the run game coordinator? As of right now, Kelly Skipper the RB coach is the logical choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) Here's a question...Josh has several years under his belt now. I think Josh has grown immensely and has a good grasp of what plays need to be called based on what the defense is doing (recognizing coverages, blitzes, etc). Do we let Josh start calling some of his own plays? Edited February 2, 2022 by Billz4ever 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Only if you don't succumb to temptation to run the All Josh, All the Time show, instead of running the backs Right, it's a gamble either way You're either taking a guy who washed out of an OC position elsewhere - maybe not his fault, maybe his side of the ball was great and the other side sucked, or maybe he didn't have great talent to work with, but that's a guess Or You're taking a shot on a guy with a good background, but he's never done it before and the jury is out I think the last thing we needed right now is someone from the outside coming in and changing up the entire system. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. It would be nice if we were able to generate a better running game from the RBs. Of course Josh can run, but I hold my breath every time he does. Even a pulled hammy as he's going out of bounds could really screw this team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 44 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: As of right now, Kelly Skipper the RB coach is the logical choice Could be a job for the new OL coach as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 7 hours ago, buffblue said: Happy to hear this. Continuity is great and some of the other rumored candidates were rather uninspiring Yes. "Diboll and Dorsey" as package was very distressing considering rules it would break but evidently it was more speculation and less news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 54 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: As of right now, Kelly Skipper the RB coach is the logical choice Not with a name like that he isn’t. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 55 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Here's a question...Josh has several years under his belt now. I think Josh has grown immensely and has a good grasp of what plays need to be called based on what the defense is doing (recognizing coverages, blitzes, etc). Do we let Josh start calling some of his own plays? That is my hope Josh reaches a point to where it doesn’t matter who is holding that clipboard. So if Josh wants Dorsey he gets the benefit of the doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 THANK YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, PolishPrince said: I understand your point but apparently 6 NFL teams were looking at him for their OC position. More importantly if Daboll was trying to bring him over to NJ, I would imagine Daboll who worked closest with him would have a good sense, or at least helped teach him how to elevate to coordinator. Are there even 6 teams in a position to hire an OC right now (either because their OC was just hired, or because they have already hired a HC?) It seems like a bit of a stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Best choice I believe. I’m good with it and Allen wanted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Are there even 6 teams in a position to hire an OC right now (either because their OC was just hired, or because they have already hired a HC?) It seems like a bit of a stretch https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2022/2/1/22912718/buffalo-bills-have-named-ken-dorsey-their-new-offensive-coordinator Just going off this. If links like this arent allowed please delete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Yay, now be more consistent with playcalling and switch things up quicker when they aint working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I was in a meeting 😭 Was it a high level business meeting? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 48 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Are there even 6 teams in a position to hire an OC right now (either because their OC was just hired, or because they have already hired a HC?) It seems like a bit of a stretch I can think of 6 off hand 1) Bills 2) Giants 3) Raiders 4) Bears 5) Patriots 6) Panthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 8 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: Excellent. Consistency and familiarity are going to help the offense get better. Congrats Dorsey! Curious how he will differ from Dabol and will he be better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 55 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Are there even 6 teams in a position to hire an OC right now (either because their OC was just hired, or because they have already hired a HC?) It seems like a bit of a stretch Bills giants raiders packers patriots Broncos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Bills giants raiders packers patriots Broncos OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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