Desert Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Looking at UFAs, as of right now. some of my rational: - area where Bills could use an upgrade. - under 30 years old - producing at a high level. - not the highest priced. - good availability (or have a reason why an oft injured or contract year wonder would be a good idea) RB: Leonard Fornette from TB. Formidable weapon running and catching. CB: JC Jackson from NE. Active. Lots of tackles and 8 interceptions. Inside LB: Kwon Alexander from NO. Good at rushing the QB too. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Ehhhh I think all those guys will get paid pretty well. Bills currently only have just under 10 million in cap space. A few key releases and restructure could put them in the low 20s but they’ll be hard pressed to get higher than that. Remember, anyone they cut you have to replace. Can you ink a WR coming off 82 catches for 6.5 million? Probably not. Can you find a solid/good OG like Williams, a guy who plays all 4 OL spots at the drop of a hat, for cheaper than the 7 he’ll make next year? Again, probably not. The FAs Id like to see are our own. Get Harrison Phillips, Ryan Bates, Levi Wallace under contract. Edited January 30, 2022 by TheyCallMeAndy 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said: Looking at UFAs, as of right now. some of my rational: - area where Bills could use an upgrade. - under 30 years old - producing at a high level. - not the highest priced. - good availability (or have a reason why an oft injured or contract year wonder would be a good idea) RB: Leonard Fornette from TB. Formidable weapon running and catching. CB: JC Jackson from NE. Active. Lots of tackles and 8 interceptions. Inside LB: Kwon Alexander from NO. Good at rushing the QB too. Draft Cooke and skip RB FA. Find a vet DT and CB (or levi) and that's about it other than our own guys we want back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Brandon Scherff, though he will be expensive. Tough, skilled, elevates the entire offensive line Donte Jackson, Corner, fast, tackles, great fit Jerick McKinnon RB fast, can catch, can play running back and receiver serving as a great weapon in the empty game Dj Chark WR, big, fast, tons of potential coming off an injury. May be too expensive. Taven Bryan -3tech to rotate with Ed Oliver. Great athlete and nice fit for what we do here. Up and down career so far Edited January 30, 2022 by MrEpsYtown 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Here's a few realistic offensive options who caught my eye looking at spotrac RB James Connor Edmonds Darrel Williams Patterson WR Chark Kirk Gallup TY Hilton (Beane loves a vet WR) TE OJ Howard Tonyan OL Austin Corbett James Daniels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Brandon Scherff pls 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said: Looking at UFAs, as of right now. some of my rational: - area where Bills could use an upgrade. - under 30 years old - producing at a high level. - not the highest priced. - good availability (or have a reason why an oft injured or contract year wonder would be a good idea) RB: Leonard Fornette from TB. Formidable weapon running and catching. CB: JC Jackson from NE. Active. Lots of tackles and 8 interceptions. Inside LB: Kwon Alexander from NO. Good at rushing the QB too. All I've heard about JC Jackson (even from Pats fans) is how he's going to demand huge money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Christian Kirk (LOVE HIM) Melvin Gordon-to pair with singletary Chase Edmonds Cordarrelle Patterson Jamison Crowder Michael Gallup DJ Chark Byron Pringle Chandler Jones(Unrealistic but a dream) Von Miller (Also unrealistic) Larry Ogunjobi Austin Corbett Mark Glowinski Andrew Norwell Melvin Ingram Steven Nelson Bryce Callahan Zach Ertz Mo Alie Cox Will we get any of these guys, who knows. But I’d love to actually sign a FA other than Emmanuel Sanders this year. And please let Wallace walk. Edited January 30, 2022 by MWK 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, WMDman said: Brandon Scherff pls + Chandler Jones Fournette would be great too! Edited January 30, 2022 by Pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Gronk and a difference making DE and a punter who doesn’t suck Draft a cb, fat DT, and wr in the first 3 rounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 All of em 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Here’s the thing. We’re probably at most getting one big ticket guy. Probably none tbh. Guys with reasonable contracts I like are: Ryan Fitzpatrick (backup QB) Cordarelle Patterson RB Jerick McKinnon RB Zach Pascal WR Jamison Crowder WR Robert Tonyan TE Ben Jones Center Mark Glowinski OG Derek Barnett DE Larry Ogunjobi DT 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said: Looking at UFAs, as of right now. some of my rational: - area where Bills could use an upgrade. - under 30 years old - producing at a high level. - not the highest priced. - good availability (or have a reason why an oft injured or contract year wonder would be a good idea) RB: Leonard Fornette from TB. Formidable weapon running and catching. CB: JC Jackson from NE. Active. Lots of tackles and 8 interceptions. Inside LB: Kwon Alexander from NO. Good at rushing the QB too. Jackson is getting $15-$20 mill per……do people think these things thru? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Pete said: + Chandler Jones Fournette would be great too! I know Jones is from Rochester. Does anyone know if he's still connected to the area/would see this as an opportunity to win a Superbowl with his hometown team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Here’s the thing. We’re probably at most getting one big ticket guy. Probably none tbh. Guys with reasonable contracts I like are: Ryan Fitzpatrick (backup QB) Cordarelle Patterson RB Jerick McKinnon RB Zach Pascal WR Jamison Crowder WR Robert Tonyan TE Ben Jones Center Mark Glowinski OG Derek Barnett DE Larry Ogunjobi DT I absolutely love Glowinski. Solid guard, and shouldn’t break the bank. This is a good list and all make sense for our price range. I’d love to sign a few of these guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said: Looking at UFAs, as of right now. some of my rational: - area where Bills could use an upgrade. - under 30 years old - producing at a high level. - not the highest priced. - good availability (or have a reason why an oft injured or contract year wonder would be a good idea) RB: Leonard Fornette from TB. Formidable weapon running and catching. CB: JC Jackson from NE. Active. Lots of tackles and 8 interceptions. Inside LB: Kwon Alexander from NO. Good at rushing the QB too. Don't think we're going to be able to realistically afford those guys. Jackson and Chandler Jones? Wildly unlikely, is my guess. Edited January 30, 2022 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 42 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Ehhhh I think all those guys will get paid pretty well. Bills currently only have just under 10 million in cap space. A few key releases and restructure could put them in the low 20s but they’ll be hard pressed to get higher than that. Remember, anyone they cut you have to replace. Can you ink a WR coming off 82 catches for 6.5 million? Probably not. Can you find a solid/good OG like Williams, a guy who plays all 4 OL spots at the drop of a hat, for cheaper than the 7 he’ll make next year? Again, probably not. The FAs Id like to see are our own. Get Harrison Phillips, Ryan Bates, Levi Wallace under contract. $10M? Spotrac has us in the negative numbers, at -$1.3M, though I think they haven't officially rolled over our money from last year yet. Overthecap has us at $4.5M, though I think they have just assumed the rollover. I wish we had $10M. You're right that we will release some guys and restructure a few, but they don't go overboard on that, as we know from past years. And you're right that we'll without a doubt bring back a bunch of our own FAs which will bring the totals back down. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 49 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Ehhhh I think all those guys will get paid pretty well. Bills currently only have just under 10 million in cap space. A few key releases and restructure could put them in the low 20s but they’ll be hard pressed to get higher than that. Remember, anyone they cut you have to replace. Can you ink a WR coming off 82 catches for 6.5 million? Probably not. Can you find a solid/good OG like Williams, a guy who plays all 4 OL spots at the drop of a hat, for cheaper than the 7 he’ll make next year? Again, probably not. The FAs Id like to see are our own. Get Harrison Phillips, Ryan Bates, Levi Wallace under contract. Ehhhh, I guess what he said. We just don't have the money. Maybe we just need more luck because it sure is going to be to get better from here on out. Our best hopes lie with Groot, Epenesa and Basham getting much better. If they can't do it.... IDK? Maybe we nail this draft? I hope McD, Leslie and Beane feel completely awful right now.... (like me...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Mahomes is so F-fen lucky that frigin' kicker made it. What a huge mistake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: Mahomes is so F-fen lucky that frigin' kicker made it. What a huge mistake! Not so lucky when he threw the pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nato7412 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, 716er said: Here's a few realistic offensive options who caught my eye looking at spotrac RB Patterson WR Chark Gallup TY Hilton (Beane loves a vet WR) OL Austin Corbett James Daniels Id go for these guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Ehhhh I think all those guys will get paid pretty well. Bills currently only have just under 10 million in cap space. A few key releases and restructure could put them in the low 20s but they’ll be hard pressed to get higher than that. Remember, anyone they cut you have to replace. Can you ink a WR coming off 82 catches for 6.5 million? Probably not. Can you find a solid/good OG like Williams, a guy who plays all 4 OL spots at the drop of a hat, for cheaper than the 7 he’ll make next year? Again, probably not. The FAs Id like to see are our own. Get Harrison Phillips, Ryan Bates, Levi Wallace under contract. I think I’ve seen enough Levi Wallace, unless you can get him dirt cheap... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, MWK said: Christian Kirk (LOVE HIM) Melvin Gordon-to pair with singletary Chase Edmonds Cordarrelle Patterson Jamison Crowder Michael Gallup DJ Chark Byron Pringle Chandler Jones(Unrealistic but a dream) Von Miller (Also unrealistic) Larry Ogunjobi Austin Corbett Mark Glowinski Andrew Norwell Melvin Ingram Steven Nelson Bryce Callahan Zach Ertz Mo Alie Cox Will we get any of these guys, who knows. But I’d love to actually sign a FA other than Emmanuel Sanders this year. And please let Wallace walk. Cordarelle Patterson alone may be enough. Suddenly you have speed on offensive and another weapon for Allen. Draft a corner and a guard, sign your own free agents, and you're good to go. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, streetkings01 said: Jackson is getting $15-$20 mill per……do people think these things thru? the guy wanted high producing, young, healthy guys…. They cost a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Chark is ripe to go to a 1/2 year deal to get to better situation for lesser than mkt value. Pump up the stats in this offense Then go get your WR1 deal Not a great year to try and break the bank when you're up against Adams, Godwin, JuJu, etc. The Bills have the appeal (for offensive stats) that the Pats used to have for ring-seekers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) After last week… who’s really ready to talk about the off-season. that’s like you just broke up with your girlfriend & your trying to move in on her girlfriend a week later. Man…let this breathe a little Edited January 31, 2022 by Scorp83 Typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, 716er said: Here's a few realistic offensive options who caught my eye looking at spotrac RB James Connor Edmonds Darrel Williams Patterson WR Chark Kirk Gallup TY Hilton (Beane loves a vet WR) TE OJ Howard Tonyan OL Austin Corbett James Daniels Patterson should be their primary target. Kirk or Gallup especially Gallup could come in for a short term prove it deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: After last week… who’s really to talk about the off-season. that’s like you just broke up with your girlfriend & your trying to move in on her girlfriend a week later. Man…let this breathe a little OR don’t read and comment on a thread if you’re not interested/ready 🤷♂️ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, filthymcnasty08 said: Chark is ripe to go to a 1/2 year deal to get to better situation for lesser than mkt value. Pump up the stats in this offense Then go get your WR1 deal Not a great year to try and break the bank when you're up against Adams, Godwin, JuJu, etc. The Bills have the appeal (for offensive stats) that the Pats used to have for ring-seekers. Are the Bills viewed outside of Bills fans as better for ring seekers than the Bengals, Chiefs, Titans, or a couple of NFC teams. Patriots were unique. They actually won a bunch of Super Bowls to establish that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Tortured Soul said: I know Jones is from Rochester. Does anyone know if he's still connected to the area/would see this as an opportunity to win a Superbowl with his hometown team? He went to high school at Union-Endicott, just outside of Binghamton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Ehhhh I think all those guys will get paid pretty well. Bills currently only have just under 10 million in cap space. A few key releases and restructure could put them in the low 20s but they’ll be hard pressed to get higher than that. Remember, anyone they cut you have to replace. Can you ink a WR coming off 82 catches for 6.5 million? Probably not. Can you find a solid/good OG like Williams, a guy who plays all 4 OL spots at the drop of a hat, for cheaper than the 7 he’ll make next year? Again, probably not. The FAs Id like to see are our own. Get Harrison Phillips, Ryan Bates, Levi Wallace under contract. I am in no hurry to sign Wallace. Bates and Phillips, sure. Wallace is a product of the system. He is slow with limited skills. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, 716er said: Here's a few realistic offensive options who caught my eye looking at spotrac RB James Connor Edmonds Darrel Williams Patterson WR Chark Kirk Gallup TY Hilton (Beane loves a vet WR) TE OJ Howard Tonyan OL Austin Corbett James Daniels What's the infatuation with OJ Howard? I'll take Gronk over him. Chark and Gallup only. Draft a RB over listed group 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I'd rather have good fits than big names. Providing these guys even see FA... WR-DJ Chark JAX Has size and speed. Coming off injury so may not be super expensive. IOL- Conner Williams DAL, Bradley Bozeman BAL, Austin Corbett LAR (2 of 3) CB- Donte Jackson CAR Yes, a Panther. Deal with it. Guy is a good cover corner with excellent speed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Gallup would be great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 33 minutes ago, Mopreme said: Patterson should be their primary target. I like it and he may want to play with a top 3 QB. Who wouldn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: $10M? Spotrac has us in the negative numbers, at -$1.3M, though I think they haven't officially rolled over our money from last year yet. Overthecap has us at $4.5M, though I think they have just assumed the rollover. I wish we had $10M. You're right that we will release some guys and restructure a few, but they don't go overboard on that, as we know from past years. And you're right that we'll without a doubt bring back a bunch of our own FAs which will bring the totals back down. OTC is -$4.5M. Spotrac is usually closer to the truth although at this time of year there is all kinds of adjusting going on. I posted a bit ago that the Bills will have to restructure or cut/trade players just to re-sign some of their own FAs let alone others. None of this will matter because these free agent threads will be with us until the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) After taking a gander through spotrac, this is my short list of FAs that I liked. Didn’t spend too much time with it. Here’s some guys I like, in no particular order. • Chris Godwin, WR (Torn ACL, one of the best WRs in the league. Would he take a 1 year prove it deal and play with one of the best QBs in the league? 🤔 • Zach Ertz, TE (Older veteran. Passes are limited in AZ. Would he sign a modest 2 year deal to compete for a Lombardi?) • Mark Glowinski, OG (I’ve always been impressed by him. He’s a bit older, Indy can’t afford to pay two top OGs money, can they?) • Christian Kirk, WR (Solid WR, I think he adds a top tier target for Allen. Possible replacement for Cole?) • Stephon Gilmore, CB (I don’t think he gets the money he seeks. Veteran presence at CB? Would he come back to where it all started? Could fill in for Tre if he’s not back from his ACL injury.) Edited January 31, 2022 by Victory Formation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: the guy wanted high producing, young, healthy guys…. They cost a lot. He also wanted "not the highest paid." And for good reason. IMO he's not getting all those together, high-producing, young, healthy and not to expensive don't tend to go together all at the same time. 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: OTC is -$4.5M. Spotrac is usually closer to the truth although at this time of year there is all kinds of adjusting going on. I posted a bit ago that the Bills will have to restructure or cut/trade players just to re-sign some of their own FAs let alone others. None of this will matter because these free agent threads will be with us until the draft. Oh, red is negative figures on Overthecap? Weird that they wouldn't just use the minus sign, but whatever. Even worse, then, if both of them have the Bills in negative figures. It's just that I keep seeing people saying the Bills have $10M available. At least twice so far in this thread alone. I don't know where they're getting that, but they oughta consider holding their horses. I love Colorado, by the way. If I ever move back to the states, that's where I'd go. My parents used to live up in Leadville, saw Mt. Elbert out the kitchen window every day. Love me some Colorado. Edited January 31, 2022 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Oh, red is negative figures on Overthecap? Weird that they wouldn't just use the minus sign, but whatever. Even worse, then, if both of them have the Bills in negative figures. It's just that I keep seeing people saying the Bills have $10M available. At least twice so far in this thread alone. I don't know where they're getting that, but they oughta consider holding their horses. I have to put my faith in some Beane wheeling and dealing. As to the last part I'm just going to start to ignore it and let them at it. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD716 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Skill players Patterson—gadgets if McKenzie gone Kirk— slot that can get deep Fournette—never fumbles sign our own Bates Wallace Mckenzie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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