With the 25th Pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select...

[atlbillsfan1975]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Point is that one player was an active tackling machine with zero question about his conditioning..........the other was a 45% of snaps rotational player with modest production and concerns about conditioning. 

 

But if nothing negative comes out about him and he's on the board late in the 3rd round like Phillips then that pick makes sense.    Fit right into that rotation as a cheap 40% snap guy for a few years.    My guess is he doesn't fall that far unless a medical or character issue gets exposed but at 360 one or the other might just pop up.   Last thing the Bills need is a Mekhi Becton situation with their #1 pick right now.   

 

Round 1 is for money down players and players who can win outside in one on one positions..........Davis is neither of those at this point.

 

 

 

 

We can agree to disagree. If Davis played in the PAC 12 his stats would be 2-3x what Phillips were. 
The other UGA DT Devonte Wyatt sounds more like the size you prefer. Again, huge upgrade over Phillips. The knee for Phillips scares me. 
Not sure what “Money Down” player means, but the league is about passing and stoping the pass. Dlineman must be considered here when you run a 4-2-5 and want pressure from your 4 lineman. Having an even more disruptive DT to go with Oliver means the tackles are left one on one with your Ends. 
 

Edited January 26, 2022 by atlbillsfan1975

[BADOLBILZ]

7 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

If Davis played in the PAC 12 his stats would be 2-3x what Phillips were. 

 

The other UGA DT Devonte Wyatt sounds more like the size you prefer. Again, huge upgrade over Phillips. The knee for Phillips scares me. 
Not sure what “Money Down” player means, but the league is about passing and stoping the pass. Dlineman must be considered here when you run a 4-2-5 and want pressure from your 4 lineman. Having an even more disruptive DT to go with Oliver means the tackles are left one on one with your Ends. 
 

 

 

So you are saying that Davis would have had 200-300 tackles 35-51 TFL and 15-22.5 sacks in his senior year if he played at Stanford instead of the more modest 32/5/2 stat-line he had at Georgia?  

 

 Imagine how much better he would have been than Aaron Donald if he had played at Pitt then.    Cuz SEC is better than ACC, amirite?   Josh Allen would have probably never gotten off the bench if Stetson Bennett were ahead of him at Wyoming on accounta' Bennett winning a national championship playing in the SEC.

 

You sir, clearly have a loose screw for Georgia players. 

 

We can agree that defense in the NFL is primarily about stopping the passing game........something that Davis hasn't shown he is exceptional at in the NCAA..........so if you need a 360 pound guy with some ACTUAL history of rushing the passer in pro football..........just collect Jordan Phillips back off the waiver wire and ink him for league minimum after Arizona cuts him in March.

[purple haze]

Jameson Williams or Garrett Wilson if available.  

[Nitro]

On 1/24/2022 at 11:33 AM, Mark Vader said:

Go.....

93 days to the daft and there will be plenty of conjecture as to who the Bills will draft and why.   This is a good start.

[Nitro]

Keep an eye on the college senior bowls.  Beane has drafted guys from them in the past.

NFLPA Collegiate Bowl Jan 29

East-West Shrine Bowl Feb 3

Senior Bowl  Feb 5

HBCU Legacy Bowl  Feb 19
 

[atlbillsfan1975]

16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So you are saying that Davis would have had 200-300 tackles 35-51 TFL and 15-22.5 sacks in his senior year if he played at Stanford instead of the more modest 32/5/2 stat-line he had at Georgia?  

 

 Imagine how much better he would have been than Aaron Donald if he had played at Pitt then.    Cuz SEC is better than ACC, amirite?   Josh Allen would have probably never gotten off the bench if Stetson Bennett were ahead of him at Wyoming on accounta' Bennett winning a national championship playing in the SEC.

 

You sir, clearly have a loose screw for Georgia players. 

 

We can agree that defense in the NFL is primarily about stopping the passing game........something that Davis hasn't shown he is exceptional at in the NCAA..........so if you need a 360 pound guy with some ACTUAL history of rushing the passer in pro football..........just collect Jordan Phillips back off the waiver wire and ink him for league minimum after Arizona cuts him in March.

Nah, I just know how important Dline is and UGA has a couple of guys on it that will be good in the pros. Wyatt might slip to the second round. You are infatuated with Davis’ size. Do you think Doyle is to big to play offensive tackle?
The biggest difference between 2020 and 2021 regarding the D was the addition of Star and the emergence of Phillips after he got fully healthy from his second ACL tear. 

[Nextmanup]

2 hours ago, LifeLongFan said:

Our top Priority should be LB Devin Loyd from Utah  - We need speed at Linebacker and this guy is a game wrecker!  We would most likely have to trade up 5+ spots to snag him!

Wrong and wronger! 

 

Taking a LB of all things with a first round pick is foolish; trading UP to get him would be doubling down on stupidity.

 

Never trade up unless you are moving to the top of the draft to take what you believe to be your franchise QB.

 

We already have that; we should be trading DOWN all over the place for MORE picks and using them shrewdly to take under-evaluated talent.

 

Turn 3 picks into 5 if you can.

 

I do love the idea of trading Edmunds, if you can actually get a team to dance with you.

 

Not sure you can.

 

 

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Wrong and wronger! 

 

Taking a LB of all things with a first round pick is foolish; trading UP to get him would be doubling down on stupidity.

 

Never trade up unless you are moving to the top of the draft to take what you believe to be your franchise QB.

 

We already have that; we should be trading DOWN all over the place for MORE picks and using them shrewdly to take under-evaluated talent.

 

Turn 3 picks into 5 if you can.

 

I do love the idea of trading Edmunds, if you can actually get a team to dance with you.

 

Not sure you can.

 

 

Wasn’t Salah gushing about Edmunds this year?   Get Joe Douglas on the phone.  
 

Edmunds seem well respected by coaches throughout the league.   I don’t know if it’s evaluation based or just sheer respect of his freak physical stature. 

[Nitro]

10 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Wrong and wronger! 

 

Taking a LB of all things with a first round pick is foolish; trading UP to get him would be doubling down on stupidity.

 

Never trade up unless you are moving to the top of the draft to take what you believe to be your franchise QB.

 

We already have that; we should be trading DOWN all over the place for MORE picks and using them shrewdly to take under-evaluated talent.

 

Turn 3 picks into 5 if you can.

 

I do love the idea of trading Edmunds, if you can actually get a team to dance with you.

 

Not sure you can.

 

 

If you trade Edmunds, you open up a huge void on the defense and drafting one in the premium rounds.     I would like to trade down and garner more picks.  

[BADOLBILZ]

7 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Nah, I just know how important Dline is and UGA has a couple of guys on it that will be good in the pros. Wyatt might slip to the second round. You are infatuated with Davis’ size. Do you think Doyle is to big to play offensive tackle?
The biggest difference between 2020 and 2021 regarding the D was the addition of Star and the emergence of Phillips after he got fully healthy from his second ACL tear. 

 

 

Tommy Doyle doesn't have a 300 gallon stomach like Davis...........and he was also a 5th round pick not a 1st rounder.

 

And blocking the man in front of you is a lot less physically demanding than rushing the passer while pushing thru double teams and then chasing the QB and ball carrier sideline to sideline and downfield................no offense to you being a former OL of course but there is a reason you don't see many successful DL the size of offensive tackles.    

 

And the biggest difference to the D in 2021 was that the LB's were healthy all season.    They were really banged up in 2020.    Next was improved pass pressure and overall run D.   Ed Oliver made a big jump in impact.    As did Phillips later in the season.   Greg Rousseau actually tied for the NFL lead in run stops.   Addison was a much better version as well.    Lotulelei contributed in his 8 starts but he was only really a big positive in a handful of games early when he was able to really rush the passer after getting his weight down to 305 on his long vacation.    He missed the opener with a leg injury........then missed more time later with another muscle injury..........then he got Covid........then missed time late for personal reasons.........wasn't a good or particularly impactful season at all for Star.     

[SCBills]

I liked Jordan Davis until I watched Bills/Chiefs.  
 

What he’s going to do in that game?   Dude would be on oxygen when we need him most.  
 

Everyone points to Tampa Bay wrecking the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, but that happened with a beat up Chiefs OL and Mahomes on a gimpy foot.  We trying to get our Vita Vea because of that?

 

 

Edited January 26, 2022 by SCBills

[billsfan714]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Wrong and wronger! 

 

Taking a LB of all things with a first round pick is foolish; trading UP to get him would be doubling down on stupidity.

 

Never trade up unless you are moving to the top of the draft to take what you believe to be your franchise QB.

 

We already have that; we should be trading DOWN all over the place for MORE picks and using them shrewdly to take under-evaluated talent.

 

Turn 3 picks into 5 if you can.

 

I do love the idea of trading Edmunds, if you can actually get a team to dance with you.

 

Not sure you can.

 

 

Love the never trade up take, Steelers will forever regret trading up for S Troy Polamalu.

[Awwufelloff]

A fast shut down corner at pick 25 and then a fast wr/rb in the 2nd.

[Sierra Foothills]

The Bills need playmakers/difference makers.

 

This team has enough solid, assignment-sound players (especially on defense). What they lack is skill players on both sides who can lift a team to victory by virtue of their sheer athleticism.

 

HOF cornerback Darrell Green was the last player taken in the first round. Green had 54 interceptions and 6 TDs in his career. When he wasn't making splash plays he was shutting down receivers.

 

Tyreek Hill was selected in the 5th round.

 

I think the Bills are solid and competent enough through their roster that they can shift their philosophy towards more explosive, high-ceiling players.

[LABILLBACKER]

15 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said:

A fast shut down corner at pick 25 and then a fast wr/rb in the 2nd.

Kaiir Elam or Daxton Hill would  be my early pick. Linderbaum will be long gone by 10.  Wish we had enough cap for both Scherff & Chandler Jones.

[FlaFitz1]

Just rechecked the way too early mock drafts that have come out since the game on Sunday - looks like the way too early consensus is the Bills need a CB or IOL 

 

CBS - CB Andrew Booth Jr. - Clemson

DraftTek - LB Nakobe Dean - Univ of Georgia

Flurry Sports - IOL Kenyon Green - Texas A&M

Walter Football - LB Damone Clark - LSU 

The Sports Bank - WR Drake London - USC

SI - CB Roger McCreary - Auburn

Border Fuel - IOL Tyler Linderbaum - Iowa

NFL Bucky Brooks - CB Roger McCreary - Auburn

Game Haus - RB Isaiah Spiller - Texas A&M

Draft Countdown - CB Kaiir Elam - Florida

CBS - CB Daxton Hill - Michigan

Sporting News - CB Trent McDuffie - Washington

PFF - CB Andrew Booth Jr. - Clemson

Pro Football Network - S Jaquan Brisker - Penn State

NFL Mocks - IOL Kenyon Green - Texas A&M

NFL Spin Zone - CB Trent McDuffie - Washington

College Football News - CB Kaiir Elam - Florida

 

 

 

That CB 9x, IOL 3x, LB 2x, WR 1x, RB 1x and S 1x

 

[dave mcbride]

15 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

We can agree to disagree. If Davis played in the PAC 12 his stats would be 2-3x what Phillips were. 
The other UGA DT Devonte Wyatt sounds more like the size you prefer. Again, huge upgrade over Phillips. The knee for Phillips scares me. 
Not sure what “Money Down” player means, but the league is about passing and stoping the pass. Dlineman must be considered here when you run a 4-2-5 and want pressure from your 4 lineman. Having an even more disruptive DT to go with Oliver means the tackles are left one on one with your Ends. 
 

The PAC-12 isn't as bad as you think it is. This is the sort of thinking that makes teams shy away from Justin Herbert because he was a PAC-12 guy instead of an SEC guy. There are tons of good HS players on the west coast and they tend to stay there for college.  

 

Obviously the SEC is the best conference (although with regard to aggregate numbers bear in mind that they have two more teams than the PAC-12), but a bunch of PAC-12 schools have 20+ players in the NFL: https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2021-09-06/nfl-players-college-2021-rosters. (Scroll down for individual schools.) When comparing the PAC-12 to the Big 10, ACC, and SEC, factor in that they have 12 schools vs. 14 for the latter three.

Edited January 26, 2022 by dave mcbride

[SCBills]

13 minutes ago, FlaFitz1 said:

Just rechecked the way too early mock drafts that have come out since the game on Sunday - looks like the way too early consensus is the Bills need a CB or IOL 

 

CBS - CB Andrew Booth Jr. - Clemson

DraftTek - LB Nakobe Dean - Univ of Georgia

Flurry Sports - IOL Kenyon Green - Texas A&M

Walter Football - LB Damone Clark - LSU 

The Sports Bank - WR Drake London - USC

SI - CB Roger McCreary - Auburn

Border Fuel - IOL Tyler Linderbaum - Iowa

NFL Bucky Brooks - CB Roger McCreary - Auburn

Game Haus - RB Isaiah Spiller - Texas A&M

Draft Countdown - CB Kaiir Elam - Florida

CBS - CB Daxton Hill - Michigan

Sporting News - CB Trent McDuffie - Washington

PFF - CB Andrew Booth Jr. - Clemson

Pro Football Network - S Jaquan Brisker - Penn State

NFL Mocks - IOL Kenyon Green - Texas A&M

NFL Spin Zone - CB Trent McDuffie - Washington

College Football News - CB Kaiir Elam - Florida

 

 

 

That CB 9x, IOL 3x, LB 2x, WR 1x, RB 1x and S 1x

 

 

Not sure I understand anyone mocking us a LB...  McDermott plays Nickel as a base defense.  That has to be under an assumption we trade one of our linebackers, no?

[Norcalbillsfan]

14 hours ago, Nitro said:

If you trade Edmunds, you open up a huge void on the defense and drafting one in the premium rounds.     I would like to trade down and garner more picks.  

True, I wouldn't mind drafting his replacement this year and rotate him in. I don't want to be forced to sign edmunds to a bloated contract cuz we don't have anyone else.

[FlaFitz1]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Not sure I understand anyone mocking us a LB...  McDermott plays Nickel as a base defense.  That has to be under an assumption we trade one of our linebackers, no?

 

 

Maybe because Edmunds contract ends after next season? 

[SCBills]

Just now, FlaFitz1 said:

 

 

Maybe because Edmunds contract ends after next season? 

 

If you draft a LB in the first round, you do so with the expectation they are a Day One starter.  

 

Let this team draft Nakobe Dean and keep him on the bench behind Edmunds and Milano for a year of his rookie contract... that's not happening. 

[Solomon Grundy]

Like I said earlier, the combine testing will ultimately alter my decision. I’m definitely going offensive playmakers with my first 2 picks. Speed is essential. I’m specifically interested in the timed speed of 2 players, Breece Hall and Decobie Durant. Both players of the year in their respective conferences. Durant was a “shutdown/ballhawking” corner in the MEAC. Hall a do it all RB. Breece is so reminiscent to Thurman to me. Nose for the end zone. 

[dave mcbride]

17 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

We should rejoice if some dumb team takes a center in the top 25 and let's a player at a big dollar position fall down to us.

 

People need to learn that that first round pick should be a player who you can't realistically acquire for reasonable money in UFA............a guy with a $25M-$30M aav ceiling when they pan out.

 

No runnin' bax,  no guards, no centers,  no off-ball LB's, safeties, RT only's or run stuffing DT's..

 

Good players at these less expensive positions regularly make it to free agency and sign for much less than the very few good but lesser players at QB/PassRush/CB1/WR1/LT who don't get a second contract with their drafting team.

 

Let other teams draft those positions early and then when those players reach UFA and they can't pay them because they have to pay top dollar for distressed merchandise at actual KEY positions in UFA..........you have the money to sign a Micah Hyde or Mitch Morse if you need a stud at those spots.

 

 

 

Btw, here's that passage from Albert Breer's SI MMQB column the other day:

 

'3) This one’s more of a trend thing. “You look at Jameson leaving Ohio State, and he was the fourth receiver there, and then [Chris] Olave and [Garrett] Wilson opt out of the Rose Bowl, Jaxon Smith-Njigba breaks every record and Marvin Harrison Jr. steps right in. And no one can cover them,” said an AFC exec. “Those two things show the stark difference between receiver and corner right now. You look in the third and fourth rounds last year, and see Amon-Ra St. Brown, and Josh Palmer, and Nico Collins, and all these receivers that can play. And good luck finding a corner at that point of the draft.” The overarching point should be driven home again this year. There’s no Ja’Marr Chase in 2022. But there is depth, as there has been the last few years, at receiver. And it will, again, be a challenge to find good corners in April.

 

4) Along those lines, and this is something I brought up last spring: I don’t think it’s a coincidence that so many corners coming into the league are NFL legacies. The top two corners drafted last year (Jaycee Horn and Patrick Surtain II), and four of the top 13 taken (adding Asante Samuel Jr. and Elijah Molden) have NFL dads. This year, the presumptive top corner, LSU’s Derek Stingley Jr., had an NFL grandfather. What’s the hook here? Well, with the proliferation of seven-on-seven and explosion of spread offenses at the high school level, the best athletes all want to play receiver. A dad who played in the league sees that, and realizes, because of it, there’s a better chance that a great 6' 1", 200-pound athlete can make it at corner than at receiver. Bottom line, there are a lot of wideouts who profile athletically like Horn and Surtain, but far fewer corners. It means, ultimately, a better chance to get drafted higher. And a better chance, because of the scarcity of corners in the league, to sustain NFL earning power.'

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/01/17/mmqb-wild-card-weekend-kyle-shanahan-49ers-cowboys-rivalry

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Btw, here's that passage from Albert Breer's SI MMQB column the other day:

 

'3) This one’s more of a trend thing. “You look at Jameson leaving Ohio State, and he was the fourth receiver there, and then [Chris] Olave and [Garrett] Wilson opt out of the Rose Bowl, Jaxon Smith-Njigba breaks every record and Marvin Harrison Jr. steps right in. And no one can cover them,” said an AFC exec. “Those two things show the stark difference between receiver and corner right now. You look in the third and fourth rounds last year, and see Amon-Ra St. Brown, and Josh Palmer, and Nico Collins, and all these receivers that can play. And good luck finding a corner at that point of the draft.” The overarching point should be driven home again this year. There’s no Ja’Marr Chase in 2022. But there is depth, as there has been the last few years, at receiver. And it will, again, be a challenge to find good corners in April.

 

4) Along those lines, and this is something I brought up last spring: I don’t think it’s a coincidence that so many corners coming into the league are NFL legacies. The top two corners drafted last year (Jaycee Horn and Patrick Surtain II), and four of the top 13 taken (adding Asante Samuel Jr. and Elijah Molden) have NFL dads. This year, the presumptive top corner, LSU’s Derek Stingley Jr., had an NFL grandfather. What’s the hook here? Well, with the proliferation of seven-on-seven and explosion of spread offenses at the high school level, the best athletes all want to play receiver. A dad who played in the league sees that, and realizes, because of it, there’s a better chance that a great 6' 1", 200-pound athlete can make it at corner than at receiver. Bottom line, there are a lot of wideouts who profile athletically like Horn and Surtain, but far fewer corners. It means, ultimately, a better chance to get drafted higher. And a better chance, because of the scarcity of corners in the league, to sustain NFL earning power.'

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/01/17/mmqb-wild-card-weekend-kyle-shanahan-49ers-cowboys-rivalry

Interesting.  So draft a corner high and some good WRs will be pushed down.  Fine with me but if a special elite receiving talent like Jameson Williams is sitting there at 25 I probably still pull the trigger.

[st pete gogolak]

12 hours ago, billsfan714 said:

Love the never trade up take, Steelers will forever regret trading up for S Troy Polamalu.

Or the 49'ers trading up to take Jerry Rice.  Seriously, I am in favor of trading down to get more #2 and #3 round picks and trading up to get more #2 nd #3 round picks.  Go through NFL draft history and you will see tons of first round busts and tons of great players taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.  After that, not so much.  Not saying you don't trade up in the first round to get the guy you want (duh, Josh Allen), but generally, I'm in favor of accumulating draft picks but especially in 2nd and 3rd rounds.

19 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

I'm willing to give him more than 2/3 of a season to prove himself at RT. He had some shaky performances but some good ones too. I mean, the leap from Northern Iowa to the NFL is huge.

Agreed.  I think Spencer Brown will be an All Pro in two years.  Yeah, he had a lot of ups and downs this year and Melvin Ingram abused him Sunday night and could have ended that game a lot sooner than overtime, but for a 3rd round pick from a small school to perform like that as a rookie is impressive.  I believe he's only going to get better and better.  It's a home run pick by Beane.

[pennstate10]

David Ojabo DE from Michigan if available ar 15 or lower. 
 

Bills biggest needs are Edge and fast CB. 
 

On offense a speed WR. Jahan Dotson of PSU might slip to round 2

[LabattBlue]

I would prefer a CB on Day 2, especially if they believe Tre will not be ready for the opener.  I still believe IOL is our biggest need at #25.  No way do I want a Day 1 or Day 2 pick used on DL.  Been there done that.  I guess I would also be okay with #25 being used on a LB(Edmunds replacement) or WR.

 

All that being said, until F/A takes place, it is hard to see how the draft will play out.

Edited January 26, 2022 by BTB

[Bookie Man]

On 1/24/2022 at 11:42 AM, BuffaloBillyG said:

.....to trade up a bit if Jordan Davis is there at 20ish.

 

 

Also, the Chiefs quietly ran for over 180 yards last night. CEH gashed that line in almost every touch ripping off huge chunks. Run defense is still something to improve.

Yes. This is the guy. I could see the Pats being very interested in JD. He and Barmore together would be problem. Jump them and draft this guy. 

[BuffBillsForLife]

Another D-Lineman.  And it's still the biggest position of need.

[Mark Vader]

22 hours ago, pennstate10 said:

David Ojabo DE from Michigan if available ar 15 or lower. 
 

Bills biggest needs are Edge and fast CB. 
 

On offense a speed WR. Jahan Dotson of PSU might slip to round 2

Ojabo won't last to us, I do like Dotson and would be fine with taking him at 25.

[whorlnut]

I don’t understand the corner crowd. Beane said in his presser yesterday that they thought about one in round two last year but decided they might not beat out Dane Jackson. There were some good ones still on the board at that point as well. 
 

It has long been the MO of this regime to have one outstanding corner (Tre White) and develop a later round corner opposite of him. They think they have that in Dane Jackson.

 

Ive long said…you aren’t stopping the KC offense. Elite qbs are able to overcome any kind of defense put out there. Look at our own guy. His best games have come against good defenses. Elite qbs rise to the occasion.

 

The main focus needs to be protecting our franchise qb and giving him the weapons he needs to keep this offense humming next year and beyond. People forget how average or worse Singletary as most of the year. He picked it up late, but I’m not gonna pretend that is going to be the norm going forward. And I love Diggs and Davis, but sanders is gone and Beasley might be as well. We need a young, speedy slot. 

[LyndonvilleBill]

5 hours ago, whorlnut said:

I don’t understand the corner crowd. Beane said in his presser yesterday that they thought about one in round two last year but decided they might not beat out Dane Jackson. There were some good ones still on the board at that point as well. 
 

It has long been the MO of this regime to have one outstanding corner (Tre White) and develop a later round corner opposite of him. They think they have that in Dane Jackson.

 

Ive long said…you aren’t stopping the KC offense. Elite qbs are able to overcome any kind of defense put out there. Look at our own guy. His best games have come against good defenses. Elite qbs rise to the occasion.

 

The main focus needs to be protecting our franchise qb and giving him the weapons he needs to keep this offense humming next year and beyond. People forget how average or worse Singletary as most of the year. He picked it up late, but I’m not gonna pretend that is going to be the norm going forward. And I love Diggs and Davis, but sanders is gone and Beasley might be as well. We need a young, speedy slot. 

I'm in th CB crowd. A round 2 guy may not have, but I'd bet a first round would have beaten  Jackson. Here's why I think we need a top CB. First I think if we had Tre, we win the game. Second,  we don't know when Tre will return, could be mid season and Hopefully he is as good as he was when he first gets back,  but can't count on it. Without a #1 (1b), it could be a tough start and we cant afford to fall behind early in the w/l column. We need the homefield advantage next post season. 3rd, if you look at the remaining teams in the AFC, Chase, Higgins, Hill, Pringle, Kelce, Hardman and NFC, Debo, Kittle, OBJ, Kupp just to name a few. I REALLY think we are going to need 2 top corners to get where we want to be.

[LifeLongFan]

On 1/25/2022 at 9:38 PM, Nextmanup said:

Wrong and wronger! 

 

Taking a LB of all things with a first round pick is foolish; trading UP to get him would be doubling down on stupidity.

 

Never trade up unless you are moving to the top of the draft to take what you believe to be your franchise QB.

 

We already have that; we should be trading DOWN all over the place for MORE picks and using them shrewdly to take under-evaluated talent.

 

Turn 3 picks into 5 if you can.

 

I do love the idea of trading Edmunds, if you can actually get a team to dance with you.

 

Not sure you can.

 

 

I appreciate your perspective but I am sure glad you are not the Bills GM.  We need to make our team better period.  At face value our Linebackers are not good!!!  Did you see Milano in coverage against Chiefs???  look at the entire season and especially the last :13 seconds and in overtime.  Milano is in panic mode... never turns his head to locate ball, stumbling out of breaks, arms flaring in the wind!!  We can not beat elite teams like this, especially the Chiefs.   Edmunds needs to be traded or utilized differently.  Why not have him more up near the line, moving around and being super aggressive?  Having him eat up space in our Defence and try to utilize his instincts has proven to be a huge FAIL. That is not him and not his strength.  Change how you use him or get rid of him.   

 

Never trade up unless for a QB?  lol....  I guess you would have traded up to pick #2 and taken Trubisky in that draft!?    Your thinking makes sense on many levels but is flawed in terms of our team and the Bills Roster... WE need the fastest most bad ass Linebacker that fly's all over the field..  Thats what you need!!  So do everything you can to go get him at no money for 5 years!!!!   Then settle with more linebacker value and obviously a burner at Running Back to compliment Singletary.

 

We need a game wrecker on D...  Ed is coming..... so get one more and were good!   17-0 next season.

 

Faith!

[Nextmanup]

1 minute ago, LifeLongFan said:

I appreciate your perspective but I am sure glad you are not the Bills GM.  We need to make our team better period.  At face value our Linebackers are not good!!!  Did you see Milano in coverage against Chiefs???  look at the entire season and especially the last :13 seconds and in overtime.  Milano is in panic mode... never turns his head to locate ball, stumbling out of breaks, arms flaring in the wind!!  We can not beat elite teams like this, especially the Chiefs.   Edmunds needs to be traded or utilized differently.  Why not have him more up near the line, moving around and being super aggressive?  Having him eat up space in our Defence and try to utilize his instincts has proven to be a huge FAIL. That is not him and not his strength.  Change how you use him or get rid of him.   

 

Never trade up unless for a QB?  lol....  I guess you would have traded up to pick #2 and taken Trubisky in that draft!?    Your thinking makes sense on many levels but is flawed in terms of our team and the Bills Roster... WE need the fastest most bad ass Linebacker that fly's all over the field..  Thats what you need!!  So do everything you can to go get him at no money for 5 years!!!!   Then settle with more linebacker value and obviously a burner at Running Back to compliment Singletary.

 

We need a game wrecker on D...  Ed is coming..... so get one more and were good!   17-0 next season.

 

Faith!

Never trade up, unless you are going for your franchise QB, probably near the top of the draft.

 

The dumb guys in this league trade up; the smart ones trade down.

 

Milano is a great LB; Edmunds not so much.

 

 

[LifeLongFan]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

Never trade up, unless you are going for your franchise QB, probably near the top of the draft.

 

The dumb guys in this league trade up; the smart ones trade down.

 

Milano is a great LB; Edmunds not so much.

 

 

Not sure what games your watching.... Milano is good against sub part competition- and average to poor against good elite competition... Tremaine is lost and needs to be traded or utilized differently.   In most cases you do trade down... not in our case!  We need a couple pieces to win 2-3 super bowls

[starrymessenger]

There are prolly 5 first round worthy WRs in the draft. Maybe we nab one. The smart money seems to be saying another CB. 

[CaptnCoke11]

Corner is probably going to be the pick.  White probably will be on the PUP to start the year and Wallace might not be back.  

[whorlnut]

20 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Corner is probably going to be the pick.  White probably will be on the PUP to start the year and Wallace might not be back.  

So we take a corner in the first because we need one? What about the other rounds?  And forget about the fact that we need speed on offense and might lose Beasley, Sanders, and McKenzie. I’m not buying for one second that its cut and dry for corner because of Tre. We can get a good corner in FA and the mid rounds too. 

[KOKBILLS]

I think a lot of what happens in Rd 1 depends on 1st - Tre's injury status...2nd - If Levi is resigned...3rd if the Bills sign a Levi-tier UFA CB...

 

Beane seemed to indicate as long as things go smooth, Tre has a decent chance to return for the season opener. Totally understand that can change. But Tre is young and these recoveries are regularly quick now. The Bills paid Tre, so they have to lean to hopeful...Just realistically hopeful.

 

If Levi is resigned I think there is 0.0 chance the Bills go CB in Rd 1. Beane told us in the presser he's not going to Draft a guy knowing he'll be behind Dane...Let alone Tre, Levi, Taron, and Dane...If they sign a Levi-tier UFA I still think the chances are 0.0...

 

If Tre is not going to be ready for a while, they don't re-sign Levi or sign a UFA, then CB goes to the top of the list, and they will Draft a 1st Round CB...If not I think they'll go O-Line...There is the potential for Cap casualties on the O-Line, and there are plenty of contracts coming up there in the next 2 years regardless. Beane said the #1 priority on Offense is protecting Josh. And I think there is a really great opportunity to bolster that area early in the 2022 Draft. I mean improve this line with a stud LG...Probably a kid that is a College LT, but can kick inside and really be special early in the NFL. That's where I'm leaning. But...We'll see...

Edited January 28, 2022 by KOKBILLS

[John from Riverside]

5 hours ago, whorlnut said:

So we take a corner in the first because we need one? What about the other rounds?  And forget about the fact that we need speed on offense and might lose Beasley, Sanders, and McKenzie. I’m not buying for one second that its cut and dry for corner because of Tre. We can get a good corner in FA and the mid rounds too. 

To be fair it’s not just that we need one it’s also a strength of this upcoming draft