muppy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) I need to process the loss before I can think about the changes needed Im kind of shell shocked right now Edited January 24, 2022 by muppy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 D Line sucks still. Keep adding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 De'Vondre Campbell is going to be a free agent from the Packers this season. Former all-pro, only 28 years old. GET HIM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Bring in a new DC from outside like Fangio Open the bank and get a bonfide edge guy Draft a CB high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, 947 said: We need a change in Defensive philosophy. The "bend but don't break" soft zone Defense doesn't work against top offenses with elite playmakers. Aside from Kelce's TD, I don't think Mahomes completed a pass that had a defender within 3 yards. We made his job so easy. Even when Mahomes needed a miracle, there was a guy wide open for a 20 yard gain... Twice. We can beat average teams with Frazier's D just fine, but it's not a championship winning defensive style. We did just fine with White though. White is the difference maker. But that can’t happen though. We need insurance polices. Go draft another CB 1 to complement White and we will win a super bowl. Guarantee it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, 716er said: D Line sucks still. Keep adding They weren't terrible just couldn't make plays. They made Mahomes move a lot but couldn't get home enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 honestly, i dont see anything we can do defensively to stop Mahomes. other than constant pressure and keeping him in the pocket with just 4. thats extremely hard to do against any team tbh. there really are no answers for QBs like Mahomes and Allen. just ask Belichick. you just have to score more than them, and hope they screw up somehow. or play actual defense for 10 friggen seconds..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, 947 said: We need a change in Defensive philosophy. The "bend but don't break" soft zone Defense doesn't work against top offenses with elite playmakers. Aside from Kelce's TD, I don't think Mahomes completed a pass that had a defender within 3 yards. We made his job so easy. Even when Mahomes needed a miracle, there was a guy wide open for a 20 yard gain... Twice. We can beat average teams with Frazier's D just fine, but it's not a championship winning defensive style. You may be on to something. In a game you need to win, you rely on your QB...so tonight it didn't matter if you allowed 27 or 15 points, both would have been a win. Get more playmakers, take more chances. ONE int, ONE strip sack fumble....ONE play in the 4th quarter or Defense would have won you this game. Tonight this wasn't a "bend-but-don't-break" Defense.....this was a "Bend-Snap" defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: McDermott is not going to get fired. Hope Daboll stays. Fire Frazier Trade Edmunds for a second round pick Let Hughes retire Cut Star and Addison Cut Gilliam Trade down Get a #2 TE, an OG, a CB, and 3 new front 7 defenders No one is trading a second for Edmunds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, bigduke6 said: honestly, i dont see anything we can do defensively to stop Mahomes. other than constant pressure and keeping him in the pocket with just 4. thats extremely hard to do against any team tbh. there really are no answers for QBs like Mahomes and Allen. just ask Belichick. you just have to score more than them, and hope they screw up somehow. or play actual defense for 10 friggen seconds..... But we stopped them when we had white. The only way to stop Mahomes is to have absolute superior coverage and hope your d line and Lbs can keep everything short. White is the difference maker when playing the chiefs. It’s very important we draft a high CB or bring one in via FA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Speed. And trade/sign a star DL. We need a game changer like a watt/bosa type player. I like Singletary, but it would be really nice to have some speed at rb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 After the Chiefs lost to the Pats, they signed Tyran Matthew and Traded for Frank Clark. We need to go all in like they did. Adding a real DE threat - rather than just another cog in the rotation - would help a lot. Then they need to do whatever they can to add another real playmaker on offense. Gabe was great, but they shut down Diggs again. And Knox was invisible. Mahomes had a much easier go of it against our defense with Hill and Kelce being 2 of the top 3 receivers between the two teams. Get a DE that teams have to game plan against, get another real wide receiver, spend the rest of your assets this offseason on the OLine to keep Josh upright. If they do that, we already have the best player in football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, muppy said: I need to process the loss before I can think about the changes needed Im kind of shell shocked right now That's fair! Everyone is shell shocked. When we scored with 13 seconds I didn't think "we will probably win," I thought "We have just won this game" and now the season is over! What the hell happened?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Definitely agree with the need a stud DE teams have to worry about. Would rather pay 1 really good player instead of overpay 3 JAGs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Pay the best available DE in free agency, or trade for one. We didn't bring Mahomes down nearly enough. I think we should keep drafting defense, against popular belief. Allen doesn't need more help. We just need the defense to hold elite offenses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 i am also too shell shocked and feel like they blew a golden opportunity, being healthy and a near perfect performance from your amazing QB and if you win you get the Bengals at home. You can always say there is next year but damn one of JA years in his career was wasted 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Pay the best available DE in free agency, or trade for one. We didn't bring Mahomes down nearly enough. I think we should keep drafting defense, against popular belief. Allen doesn't need more help. We just need the defense to hold elite offenses. Starts at MLB and DE I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I love Diggs, but to me he just doesn't have the speed/size for wr1. I bet he would be unstoppable as a slot with his excellent route running. Wish we would of went after obj this year when he was available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 D line prolly. I mean, you reach a point in life where this constant ***** stings, but you move on. And so will the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: That's fair! Everyone is shell shocked. When we scored with 13 seconds I didn't think "we will probably win," I thought "We have just won this game" and now the season is over! What the hell happened?! The music city miracle kind of ruined late game scores for me. I think this is worse though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, 716er said: D Line sucks still. Keep adding Waste of resources. Write it off as a loss and just dedicate more offensive weapons and just hope we can out duel everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) Random musings… Dump our DEs, they are old, overpaid, and provide no real pressure. Sign someone who can. LBs- Attempt to trade 48 while people think he has value. DT- Resign 99, Dump Star and sign an impactful big man who plays more than 9 games a year. OL- Sell off Ford for a pick, never let Bobby Hart anywhere near our facility ever again RB- draft high enough for some competition to Moss, I think Singletary earned an RB1A but we still need speed at this role stop wasting a game day RB spot on Taiwan, it cost us a giant return in the KC game…. Draft - draft a guard, a CB2 for once, draft a big man DT, another wr, another Speed rb Wrs- McKenzie to a 2 year deal for the slot. Approach Cole about a restructure to add an extra year to his deal or dump him too because his speed and agility isn’t there anymore and $9 million is too much for his 5-8 yard plays that can be replaced by other players. I would love to keep #1 for another year but if he retires I would spend his money on a vet CB and leave Stephenson in the lineup since Gabe has earned his #2 spot. Lastly cut Tommy Sweeney and find a real 2nd TE Edited January 24, 2022 by Locomark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronyAbounds Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Again, nothing is certain in this league. There is no guarantee the Bills will be any better or even as good next year. That's what makes this such a blown opportunity. It's going to be difficult to get better overall personnel. My advice, don't blow games like Pittsburgh, Jacksonville and Tennessee so you get home field throughout. Going through a #1 or #2 seed's home field is never a good approach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Run it back and draft people that are going to contribute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Put Josh Allen in at CB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Starters that I think will be gone: - Mitch Morse (retire) - Feliciano (maybe, low dead cap) - Daryl Williams (maybe, low dead cap) - Cody Ford - Hughes (retire) - Addison - Star Lotulelei (retire) - Vernon Butler - Emmanuel Sanders - Cole Beasley or McKenzie (probably only keep one) - Mitch Trubisky - Zach Moss (will have to earn his job in training camp) It's a tall order to replace the above, I would also like to add: - Better depth CB than Wallace (probably not happening) - A replacement for Edmunds - Speed back mid-rounds, better than Breida - Pass rush from somewhere?! Who will replace Addison and Hughes? I have hope for Rousseau, but Epenesa seems like a bust and I don't know what to think about Basham (he's been a healthy scratch a lot of the year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 Imagine not winning a super bowl with a talent like Josh Allen, that in itself is embarrassing. Imagine winning a super bowl with a Trent Dilfer or Joe Flacco. The fact that Belichick got as much as he did out of Jones is an accomplishment. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 37 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Fire Mcdermott. He's out of his league with a winning team. Anyone that disagrees is delusional. 100% coaching. 0-6 in 1 score games Im sure there are teams that have a HC vacancy that hope we’re dumb enough to fire McD. It’s honestly such a terrible take. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 We have to do something. We can’t just keep losing to KC in the playoffs every year. Just now, Bangarang said: Im sure there are teams that have a HC vacancy that hope we’re dumb enough to fire McD. It’s honestly such a terrible take. Is it though? Coaches have won Super Bowls with much much much worse talent than a team like the Bills. It’s just sad. I think McDermott is good enough, but man talk about depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: We don’t blow games we should win so we can be the #1 seed and be at home. Lost some games in the reg season that cost us. THIS!!!!!! We don't lose that game at home. The Jags and Pitt game cost us home field. Hopefully yet another(and final PLEASE) lesson for this team to have to learn going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) For the love of God, trade 10 draft picks to get Miles Garret or TJ Watt. We need a f*cking pass rush Edited January 24, 2022 by Buffalo03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Imagine not winning a super bowl with a talent like Josh Allen, that in itself is embarrassing. Imagine winning a super bowl with a Trent Dilfer or Joe Flacco. The fact that Belichick got as much as he did out of Jones is an accomplishment. in order to win a suer bowl with Josh you first have to beat the even better mahommes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Trade our first rounder for a bonifide superstar linebacker to go with Milano. Get rid of Edmunds. Cut the old weight on this team - Hughes, Addison, Beasley, etc. Fire Frazier if no one hires him. If I see one more idiot defend Edmund's I'll punch you in the face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: We have to do something. We can’t just keep losing to KC in the playoffs every year. Is it though? Coaches have won Super Bowls with much much much worse talent than a team like the Bills. It’s just sad. I think McDermott is good enough, but man talk about depressing. Yes, it really is. McD is easily a top 10 coach in the league. Those don’t grow on trees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: in order to win a suer bowl with Josh you first have to beat the even better mahommes. He wasnt better tonight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: Yes, it really is. McD is easily a top 10 coach in the league. Those don’t grow on trees. Do top 10 coaches lose with top 3 QBs and a #1 Defense? It’s like having a Ferrari and losing a race full Mustangs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Im sure there are teams that have a HC vacancy that hope we’re dumb enough to fire McD. It’s honestly such a terrible take. Hahaha okay, enjoy losing games we should win! The just happy to be here mentality is so embarrassing. Have fun jumping through a table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Starters that I think will be gone: - Mitch Morse (retire) - Feliciano (maybe, low dead cap) - Daryl Williams (maybe, low dead cap) - Cody Ford - Hughes (retire) - Addison - Star Lotulelei (retire) - Vernon Butler - Emmanuel Sanders - Cole Beasley or McKenzie (probably only keep one) - Mitch Trubisky - Zach Moss (will have to earn his job in training camp) It's a tall order to replace the above, I would also like to add: - Better depth CB than Wallace (probably not happening) - A replacement for Edmunds - Speed back mid-rounds, better than Breida - Pass rush from somewhere?! Who will replace Addison and Hughes? I have hope for Rousseau, but Epenesa seems like a bust and I don't know what to think about Basham (he's been a healthy scratch a lot of the year). I think Levi Wallace is excellent depth at DB! Doesn't mean we can't add another though. I had very high hopes for Rousseau--he's a bust too. Our DL drafting has been brutal. I would like to think improving Edmunds will be a top priority, but I do NOT think it will be. In fact, I'm not sure they think he's a problem. Beasley will be gone--I feel strongly about that one. I agree with a lot of your names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Honestly? Look for our own Tyreek Hill or Deebo Samuel and unleash hell on defenses next season. This game is geared towards offense so let’s rev it up. Josh Allen is the best player in the NFL. Keep feeding him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Starters that I think will be gone: - Mitch Morse (retire) - Feliciano (maybe, low dead cap) - Daryl Williams (maybe, low dead cap) - Cody Ford - Hughes (retire) - Addison - Star Lotulelei (retire) - Vernon Butler - Emmanuel Sanders - Cole Beasley or McKenzie (probably only keep one) - Mitch Trubisky - Zach Moss (will have to earn his job in training camp) That's like a wish list of cuts. Except Mitch. He's a good backup QB. And can we add Edmunds to the list please? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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