YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) Edited December 22, 2021 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 More of gabe! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Not going to move the needle imo. We get to see more of the future in Gabe Davis son I am not upset about it. One thing about Sanders, not sure how much "blame" is on Josh Allen but he sure does make a lot of catches on or going to the ground. And we wonder why this team has so little YAC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 This is good because it forces us to play Davis more. Sanders has been good this year, but he's played at the expense of developing Gabe Davis, who I think will be at least a really good #2 WR for us long term. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Means more Gabe which is probably a good thing. But we are very thin at WR now. Diggs Gabe or Cole goes down we are toast. If they stay healthy than we probably won't miss Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Might as well bring up Hodgins and see what he can do. I see him on the sidelines every game with his long head a**. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Process said: Means more Gabe which is probably a good thing. But we are very thin at WR now. Diggs Gabe or Cole goes down we are toast. If they stay healthy than we probably won't miss Sanders. You're exactly right. I just wonder when the Duke Williams contingent begins to resurface in this forum...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Did you see how tired Diggs was at the end of that game. This is not a good thing. Sanders is a good player. Yes I want Davis to get more action but missing Sanders is not good for the WR group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Davis Time!! Lets GO!!!! Get well soon Sanders!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I like Sanders but this is one area the Bills have sufficient depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Wonder if Bills staff take these next few games and scheme up some wrinkles using Lil Dirty and Stevenson for 6-12 plays game. Using Stevenson to help run 4 verticals or 9 routes to clear the S for Diggs or Davis in the intermediate zone. Stevenson has good hands and great deep speed. Also use lil Dirty on WR screens, jet sweeps etc as variants of a running game. If Sanders goes to IR do we finally see Hodgson as a call up used a big slot to help vs pressure packages? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) This team was fine without brown when he was out last year. I honestly think they've tried to force the ball to sanders too much this year. Diggs, Bease and Davis should really get the job done, plus with Knox and singletary (for screens) I think we'll be fine, if not better. Don't get me wrong, I really like sanders, but sometimes less is more Edited December 13, 2021 by Steptide 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 The offense runs better when Sanders isn't on the field anyways. It forces Daboll to be more creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly's Heroes Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Does anyone really care is Sanders plays? He was a horrible addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Process said: Means more Gabe which is probably a good thing. But we are very thin at WR now. Diggs Gabe or Cole goes down we are toast. If they stay healthy than we probably won't miss Sanders. Sorry Manny but this is a good thing. Much more of Davis thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Not the worst thing. Feel bad for Sanders but he's getting too old and Davis is the better receiver now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Good! Sorry he’s hurt, but really, as I’ve been saying all season: the only thing he has done is take time away from Gabe Davis. Davis is a better player than Sanders in every way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 What a disappointment he’s been the last 2 months. Sigh. More Gabe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) I really like sanders but can’t deny that the offense seemed to flow better without him. Edited December 13, 2021 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Is Smoke available? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 As I said in another chain...we are a better offense without Sanders. And its not because of Sanders, hes a good player. But we need to layer our passing game better and making Cole a bigger focal point and mixing in more Davis who can do a lot of what sanders does but brings more size is a good thing for this offense. This was more than evident in the Bucs game after Sanders left the game and we started getting Cole involved. Our OL isn't consistent enough for the down field passing game to work if we dont make them fear the run and short strike passing game. I wish Sanders all the best health, but I do feel like our offense will look better this week with Cole a bigger part of the offense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 This team is probably better off with the 3 main WRs left from last year and then McKenzie mixed in as the 4th guy. Maybe even throw in some actual offensive snaps for Stevenson. We want speed, there it is. Find ways to get him the ball like KC does with Hill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hebert19 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Would be good if he can play with Beas out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) I'm really not a Sanders hater, but I think the evidence suggest that Gabe Davis is the more productive reciever for the Bills. And, I think McKenzie is a far better option in the slot than Sanders. McKenzie is a reliable pass-cather, and he is a much bigger threat for YAC. Sanders can be a good situational #4 guy, but I think his days as a productive starter are behind him. Edited December 23, 2021 by CSBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 McD is from the Crash Davis school of media communication... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 7:53 PM, Alphadawg7 said: As I said in another chain...we are a better offense without Sanders. And its not because of Sanders, hes a good player. But we need to layer our passing game better and making Cole a bigger focal point and mixing in more Davis who can do a lot of what sanders does but brings more size is a good thing for this offense. This was more than evident in the Bucs game after Sanders left the game and we started getting Cole involved. Our OL isn't consistent enough for the down field passing game to work if we dont make them fear the run and short strike passing game. I wish Sanders all the best health, but I do feel like our offense will look better this week with Cole a bigger part of the offense. Sanders was really good early in the year but he’s fallen off a cliff since about mid-season. He’s 34 and it’s to be expected. Gabe is ready, willing and able to switch roles with E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Despite all the Sanders hate around here, they absolutely need him this week to play the slot with Beasley out. I do not trust McKenzie to play that position full time in a critical game. Sanders can get open. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 4:58 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said: This team is probably better off with the 3 main WRs left from last year and then McKenzie mixed in as the 4th guy. Maybe even throw in some actual offensive snaps for Stevenson. We want speed, there it is. Find ways to get him the ball like KC does with Hill. Would it kill Daboll to call an occassional fly route for Stevenson? Keep Cole on the short slot routes. Gabe & Stefon fill the mid range. Knox your safety valve and McKenzie gadgets. That leaves Stevenson as your deep threat. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, FLFan said: Despite all the Sanders hate around here, they absolutely need him this week to play the slot with Beasley out. I do not trust McKenzie to play that position full time in a critical game. Sanders can get open. Honestly Cole has not been as open this year. He looks a lot slower and less agile out of breaks. Either it is lingering from last years injury or he is on the downside of his agility which happens to many players his age. McKenzie and Sanders and Davis open up those 15-25 yard throws that unlock with play action passing. Edited December 22, 2021 by Locomark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Locomark said: Honestly Cole has not been as open this year. He looks a lot slower and less agile out of breaks. Either it is lingering from last years injury or he is on the downside of his agility which happens to many players his age. I agree with your observations. I have seen the same things. He has only 1 TD, and so far has the lowest YPC of his career. He will certainly not reach last year’s catch numbers or yardage. There could be many reasons for the fall of in production, but continuing nagging injuries and the culmination of years of abuse on his body cannot be discounted as root causes. 5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Would it kill Daboll to call an occassional fly route for Stevenson? Keep Cole on the short slot routes. Gabe & Stefon fill the mid range. Knox your safety valve and McKenzie gadgets. That leaves Stevenson as your deep threat. I would like to see Stevenson get some reps. NE certainly has no one who can keep up with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 When Sanders returns, make him take turns with Beasley as the slot guy and Diggs and Davis as #1 & #2 receivers 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, FLFan said: Despite all the Sanders hate around here, they absolutely need him this week to play the slot with Beasley out. I do not trust McKenzie to play that position full time in a critical game. Sanders can get open. Agree. Kumerow has done nothing. With Cole out Sanders is critical. Not sure why Daboll does not trust McKenzie. Has has produced as a WR. Much more than Andre Roberts ever did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Why is it always black or white? Sanders or Gabe? Sanders has not “ fallen off a Cliff” but has been less targeted for a whole variety of reasons. Yes I think Gabe should play outside as the 2 and Sanders as one of the slots more often. 80 percent of our snaps seem to be 3 wr or 4 wr on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Yup, apparently Sanders was limited in practice today. Diggs, Sanders, and Davis, works fine without Beasley. Not ideal, if Sanders can be back on Sunday, losing Beas doesn't hurt so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, FLFan said: Despite all the Sanders hate around here, they absolutely need him this week to play the slot with Beasley out. I do not trust McKenzie to play that position full time in a critical game. Sanders can get open. Honestly I hope they put McKenzie in that spot and see how he does there. He might surprise. From what we've seen last year he won't disappoint and has the speed the Beasley lacks. Not that Beasley doesn't get open. I'd just like to see McKenzie more involved offensively and this is a prime opportunity for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 5:41 PM, YoloinOhio said: I really like sanders but can’t deny that the offense seemed to flow better without him. That's unfortunately been my conclusion. In theory, he should be an upgrade to Davis and to Brown. But in practice, there have been too many times where he's only caught half the balls thrown his way, or less - 5 games out of 13, to be specific, where he got 4 or more targets and caught 0 to half of the balls thrown his way. Some were overthrows or throw aways, but some were drops of balls he should have caught, or situations where he just didn't seem to be where Josh expected him to be, when Josh expected him to be there. And then there are other situations where he could have laid out or gone up for a ball, and didn't. Then don't get me started on his blocking. It started out pretty good, but it's gone downhill as the season has worn on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) Sanders is better than McKenzie. I like McKenzie but people here are crazy. This team is better with Sanders back while Beasley is out. 40 catches 606 yards 15.2 avg 41 long 4 tds 30 first downs 75 1st% 10 20+ 1 40+ Edited December 22, 2021 by Scott7975 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, 34-78-83 said: Why is it always black or white? Sanders or Gabe? Sanders has not “ fallen off a Cliff” but has been less targeted for a whole variety of reasons. Yes I think Gabe should play outside as the 2 and Sanders as one of the slots more often. 80 percent of our snaps seem to be 3 wr or 4 wr on the field. In the first 6 games he had 413 yards and 17 YPC. In the last 7 games he’s played he has 193 and 12 YPC. Maybe not a cliff, but a steep hill. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: In the first 6 games he had 413 yards and 17 YPC. In the last 7 games he’s played he has 193 and 12 YPC. Maybe not a cliff, but a steep hill. 🤣 Fair point but as I said there are many factors there, some of which are not directly related to Sanders like weather ( NE game), better pass defenses faced, forcing the offense into shorter throws, Josh finding other targets on a game by game basis. It doesn’t mean he t be productive still with less snaps than Gabe as I propose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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