Bills @ Bucs talk

[Albany,n.y.]

Star is out again this Sunday. (McDermott on WGR) 

[Negan]

Star and Sweeny out Sunday.

 

Time to get rid of Star and I'm pretty much at the point to get rid of McDermott and this whole clueless coaching staff 

[Scott7975]

12 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Are you equating the defending SB champions who have the GOAT at QB with Miami a team that would just be happy to make the dance? 

 

What does that have anything to do with what the posts were talking about?  They were talking about our guys playing in warm weather getting dehydrated.  That has nothing to do with who they are playing.

[Bills fan since 87]

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

What does that have anything to do with what the posts were talking about?  They were talking about our guys playing in warm weather getting dehydrated.  That has nothing to do with who they are playing.

 

Pats fans 🙄

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Star is out again this Sunday. (McDermott on WGR) 

 

Figures. 

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

Star just needs to leave…like don’t care anymore about him. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Star hasn't been good. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, Negan said:

Star and Sweeny out Sunday.

 

Time to get rid of Star and I'm pretty much at the point to get rid of McDermott and this whole clueless coaching staff 

 

Be Careful What You Wish For.  Not as far as Star, I'm Done with him.

 

But there are plenty of teams which have gotten close, then blown up the coaching staff for not getting all the way quickly enough, and have plummeted back to the bottom of the pile.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Star hasn't been good. 

 

Star has been good when he's played.  But "the Best Ability is Availability."

He's only given us that in 8 of 13 games this year and 0 of 19 games last year, and at age 32, there's no reason to think this would improve next season.

[HamSandwhich]

8 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Star must've tripped over a ham sandwich:

 

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/star-lotulelei-and-tommy-sweeney-ruled-out-for-bills-at-buccaneers-week-14

Sorry guys, that was my fault 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Star has been good when he's played.  But "the Best Ability is Availability."

He's only given us that in 8 of 13 games this year and 0 of 19 games last year, and at age 32, there's no reason to think this would improve next season.

No he hasn't. He's better than the alternative is a better answer. He doesn't make any difference.

[BringBackFlutie]

4 hours ago, Beast said:

I know you Chowda heads are slow but we were quite clearly talking about the weather conditions.

 

.... seriously. Hasn't he been to TBD? It's all we talk about.

[BuffaloBillyG]

35 minutes ago, Negan said:

Star and Sweeny out Sunday.

 

Time to get rid of Star and I'm pretty much at the point to get rid of McDermott and this whole clueless coaching staff 

I'm done with both of them. Neither can stay on the field. It's time to do some pretty significant roster shaping in the offseason.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

24 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

No he hasn't. He's better than the alternative is a better answer. He doesn't make any difference.

 

I defer to your expertise watching film and grading the role of a DT in McDermott's defense over the coaches and the guys who break down film regularly

Yes, that's sarcasm

[TheFunPolice]

If we find a way to win this game I'll be 3x as excited as I would have been had we beaten NE.

 

Yes, I know. AFC/NFC, stats standing, blah blah blah

 

I absolutely f-ing hate Tom Brady. The SOB has ruined football for 20 years. Whatever happens in the league is just window dressing for the Tom Brady Story. It'slike the league is just a story about Brady and everyone else is a supporting character, to add different challenges and variety to his story. 

 

If it was Peyton Manning playing until he was 47 and winning SB after SB I would think how cool it was to watch. Same with Favre or Brees.

 

But of course it has to be this little prick. Big Ben looks like he's 75 years old. Brees couldn't throw over 10 yards. But Brady is better now than he was 10 years ago, and I don't even think it's close. 

 

No, this Sunday we MUST WIN and both help our chances AND make it that much harder for Brady to get back to the Super Bowl. I'm tired of sitting there sick to my stomach for 3 hours hoping and praying that the other team can stop him from winning. 

 

This week WE DO THE JOB! 

 

Poyer and Hyde can pretend Brady is Jerry Sullivan and let's rock and roll!

 

 

Edited December 10, 2021 by TheFunPolice

[SCBills]

I don’t understand how anyone is downplaying this game due to TB being NFC..  Get to 11 wins however you need to… we’re basically guaranteed the playoffs with 11 wins.   That doesn’t change because one of them was against Tampa Bay. 
 

 

[Nextmanup]

25 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I don’t understand how anyone is downplaying this game due to TB being NFC..  Get to 11 wins however you need to… we’re basically guaranteed the playoffs with 11 wins.   That doesn’t change because one of them was against Tampa Bay. 
 

 

Math!  That's why.  

 

The point is we can lose to Tampa and still make the playoffs easily.

 

This assumes losing is a foregone conclusion, which most here think it is.

 

I actually think we have a good shot to win, if we get good coaching and we do our thing (air it out).

 

Of course winning would be better; it always is.

 

 

[Nitro]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If you think it's silly, that's fine - but you were called on totally misunderstanding what's being discussed.  As a guest here, I think you might have mis-typed "oh, whups, Me Bad"

 

"It's always hot in Florida" .....that would be why Citrus growers have loss prevention programs for freezes, and why Frozen Iguanas are a thing?

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/weather/2021/12/02/frozen-iguanas-how-handle-florida-weather-cold-trees/8823566002/

 

 

 

 

 

No.  You don't run on every play.  Because the point is, if you maintain enough of an effective pass threat, the Bills can't just choke down on the run as they have against the Ravens.

 

Yes, the Bills have been beaten up against the run but that by itself is probably not enough to defeat us.  We beat Us.

 

We defeat us.  4 trips to the RZ and 1 TD to show for it will do that.  If the Bills score TDs on half those redzone trips, they win.  If they score anything on each of those RZ trips, they win.

 

Examples of what I mean by "that probably isn't enough to beat us":

-While collecting 222 rush yards, the Pats only managed 14 points to go with it.  And they got their lone TD off our dumb-ass stupid unforced fumble on the QB-RB exchange.  We also had 4 trips to the RZ, 1 TD, 1 FG, and 1 missed FG to show for it.

-During the Colts 41-15 Butt-Whuppin, the Colts scored 21 points off of 2 INTs and a stupid unforced fumble at our goal line.  Did their run game beat us?  Well, without our stupid ass turnovers, we certainly could have had a much better shot

-During the Tennessee game, despite giving up 146 rush yards, we were in it to win it at the end.  Again, 5 trips  to the RZ and 2 TDs; if we score on 3 (our average of last season) we win.

 

The Bills can be beaten far more often and more easily than I'd like.  But the Bills make a huge contribution to beating the Bills.

 

 

 

yep.. Spot on

[ShakAttack]

Well we went 13-3 without Star for an entire season… it’s mainly Tre I worry about. 

[Success]

This past Monday had a very dementor-like effect on me - I felt the joy drain from me, and it felt as though I'd never feel optimistic again.

 

But a win over the Bucs would get me right back in the saddle.  Gotta love all of that "look for hope wherever you can" conditioning that 2 decades gave me.

 

[Bangarang]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Be Careful What You Wish For.  Not as far as Star, I'm Done with him.

 

But there are plenty of teams which have gotten close, then blown up the coaching staff for not getting all the way quickly enough, and have plummeted back to the bottom of the pile.

The fire McD brigade must have lived under power lines or ate paint chips as a kid. 

[Toyo321]

We have not won a single game this year against a team with a winning record.

 

Buc's 9-3  equals Bills loss this weekend.   Sorry.. the numbers this year don't lie.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

Just now, Toyo321 said:

We have not won a single game this year against a team with a winning record.

 

Buc's 9-3  equals Bills loss this weekend.   Sorry.. the numbers this year don't lie.

Uh KC ring a bell?

[Toyo321]

2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Uh KC ring a bell?

They were .500 when we played them 2-2.  That is not winning record or a losing record.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

I don’t understand how anyone is downplaying this game due to TB being NFC..  Get to 11 wins however you need to… we’re basically guaranteed the playoffs with 11 wins.   That doesn’t change because one of them was against Tampa Bay. 
 

 

Downplaying? I’m pretty sure anyone realistic just understands we aren’t winning this game. Probably going to get hammered in all likelihood 

[Nextmanup]

5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Downplaying? I’m pretty sure anyone realistic just understands we aren’t winning this game. Probably going to get hammered in all likelihood 

A lot of people seem to think this game is crucial to our playoff odds, overall.

 

It's not.

 

Play with the calculators before you post! 

 

(I don't mean you, Brianmoorman4jesus!)

 

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

17 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

They were .500 when we played them 2-2.  That is not winning record or a losing record.

So you think that is a better representation of who the Chiefs are than 8-4, or the 14-2 the year before, or the 12-4 2years before. I'm sorry, I disagree, I'll go with the bigger sample size. 

 

Have a nice day

[TheWei44]

This is an important game, no doubt, but as others have posted, we aren't nearly out of it if we lose.  To me, this feels like either a close one or we get blown out.  I don't see us blowing them out.  I like the fact that we're desperate and have basically shot ourselves in the foot re most of our losses (so that's within our control).  I also like the favorable weather conditions.  I don't understand why the line is low as it is - Bucs -7/8 seems about right to me.  Hope we have the "balls out"/leave absolutely nothing on the table/take no prisoners/scorched earth approach to this game!  GO BILLS!  We win 34-31 in a thriller!

[transplantbillsfan]

3 hours ago, Toyo321 said:

We have not won a single game this year against a team with a winning record.

 

Buc's 9-3  equals Bills loss this weekend.   Sorry.. the numbers this year don't lie.

 

2 hours ago, Toyo321 said:

They were .500 when we played them 2-2.  That is not winning record or a losing record.

 

Do you not see how ridiculous and contradictory your logic is?

 

On the one hand, you're saying that when we beat the 2-2 Kansas City Chiefs who will end up with a winning record at the end of the year, but they were a different team.

 

For that matter, I'd throw in the Miami Dolphins and Washington Football Team (sorry guys... I called them the Redskins before) who I think will end up with winning records at the end of the year.  And we CRUSHED both teams... the Dolphins twice.

 

But those teams we crushed were different teams than they are now.

 

 

Okay... perhaps I can see that logic.

 

And yet, the Bills are static and can not change or turn a corner or go on a winning streak with 5 games left?

Edited December 10, 2021 by transplantbillsfan

[Sugar High JA17]

This might be a dumb question for most, hope you guys can help.

How can Buffalo win the division if we lose this Sunday but win out the rest of year.

Patriots need to lose one & we need to beat them. Assuming they win other games and we have a tied record at end of year.

Do we win tie breaker ? Really curious & i cant find the info online.

Thanks

 

Id rather win vs TB & hope this question means nothing Sunday! Go Buffalo

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

1 minute ago, Sugar High JA17 said:

This might be a dumb question for most, hope you guys can help.

How can Buffalo win the division if we lose this Sunday but win out the rest of year.

Patriots need to lose one & we need to beat them. Assuming they win other games and we have a tied record at end of year.

Do we win tie breaker ? Really curious & i cant find the info online.

Thanks

 

Id rather win vs TB & hope this question means nothing Sunday! Go Buffalo

 

 

 

Yes we'd win the tiebreaker if we lose to TB and win out because we'd have a better divisional record.  They lost to Miami early this year.

[Arkady Renko]

3 minutes ago, Sugar High JA17 said:

This might be a dumb question for most, hope you guys can help.

How can Buffalo win the division if we lose this Sunday but win out the rest of year.

Patriots need to lose one & we need to beat them. Assuming they win other games and we have a tied record at end of year.

Do we win tie breaker ? Really curious & i cant find the info online.

Thanks

 

Id rather win vs TB & hope this question means nothing Sunday! Go Buffalo

 

 

In that scenario, the Bills would win the tiebreaker because of a better division record and split head-to-head.  Patriots will have lost to Bills and Dolphins in the division.  Bills will have only lost once in the division, to the Patriots.  

Edited December 10, 2021 by Arkady Renko

[Sugar High JA17]

3 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said:

In that scenario, the Bills would win the tiebreaker because of a better division record and split head-to-head.  Patriots will have lost to Bills and Dolphins in the division.  Bills will have only lost once in the division, to the Patriots.  

Very cool, Thanks

5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yes we'd win the tiebreaker if we lose to TB and win out because we'd have a better divisional record.  They lost to Miami early this year.

Good news, Thanks

[ColoradoBills]

I really don't care for the points made about this game not being important to the Bills playoff chances.

 

For the psyche of this football team it's a must win in my book.

 

[Behindenemylines]

8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

I really don't care for the points made about this game not being important to the Bills playoff chances.

 

For the psyche of this football team it's a must win in my book.

 

I think as fans our expectations should be that we win out season. Anything less is unacceptable. 
 

As coaches and players I would fully expect they have the same attitude. 
 

And I fully expect that Daboll has been told that points need to be scored in abundance or he’s fired.  FULL STOP

[muppy]

21 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said:

And that's absolutely fine.

 

However what I have seen this year from this team tells me that we are in for more of the same. This team....there is something really off about it from last season and even the year before. This doesn't seem like the same group of guys that hit the field and played for the guy next to them. 

 

I don't know if it's just a change in attitudes being a preseason favorite or if there is some levels of disconnect with the players in the locker room or something completely different. But this looks way more like a team that is about to go off the rails than a team that will pull together and play with heart.

greetings...I wanted to share that I learn a LOT from y'all and reading posts. Ima wear my heart on my sleeve kinda gal to me heart is crucial....But you made me realize how big or small your heart is is Insufficient increase to the level of physical excellence we want...its not heart or desire its physical ability...? strength. On The Field. I dont really care that much if their locker room is wack if they are winning and either would anyone else. the "What" is going on right now with this team, This locker room may well have some issues thats  gossip..I would say my greatest issue with the team is straight up coaching. More on them as far as Im concerned. I could be wrong. 

 

I dunno

 

teach me 2bd teach me

 

lol 

 

m

Edited December 10, 2021 by Muppy

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said:

I think as fans our expectations should be that we win out season. Anything less is unacceptable. 
 

As coaches and players I would fully expect they have the same attitude. 
 

And I fully expect that Daboll has been told that points need to be scored in abundance or he’s fired.  FULL STOP

 

Pretty much.  I will say that while I have scratched my head at times concerning Daboll the entire offense has to step up and play

with a sense of urgency like never before in this season.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

it just dawned on me this is an ego game for Brady. He has to beat the bills that Belichick just beat with Mac jones patsies. He’s going to take it personally. 

[Johnnycage46]

7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

it just dawned on me this is an ego game for Brady. He has to beat the bills that Belichick just beat with Mac jones patsies. He’s going to take it personally. 

I think Brady takes every game personally.  He has to be the most competitve athlete of all time.  He still gets motivation from his draft position 20+ years and 7 rings later.

[FireChans]

29 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said:

I think as fans our expectations should be that we win out season. Anything less is unacceptable. 
 

As coaches and players I would fully expect they have the same attitude. 
 

And I fully expect that Daboll has been told that points need to be scored in abundance or he’s fired.  FULL STOP

This anemic offense is McD’s creation.