YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Quote I tore my PCL,” Phillips said. “But it definitely could have been a lot worse. And I was able to work myself to be ready for Week 1 with Star being out, then got a couple more weeks of rest and now I’m starting to really feel like myself again.” The posterior cruciate ligament affects stability in the knee, but injuries do not always require surgery. As far as how it affects his mobility, Phillips said: “It’s something I work through.” 1 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Nobody can say horrible harry isn't tough as nails 1 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Dang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 In a contract year nonetheless 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Nobody can say horrible harry isn't tough as nails Great person as well. Never met a pro athlete that goes out of their way to make someone's day as much as he does 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 There are a number of unknown issues that might or might not eventually come to the surface, but this is an example of why sometimes as fans we "assume" we know more than we do. Harry's been the consummate professional since he's been in Buffalo and faced adversity along the way without whining or complaining or finger pointing. He's simple put his head down and committed to working harder to be better or overcome that adversity. I want him to continue to be a Buffalo Bill at the right price and believe he's an example of a late-bloomer type of player. I think his best football, if he can stay healthy, is still ahead of him. That's not to say I think he'll be an All-Pro, but I do think he could be a solid contributor on the line, the way we've seen him play the last few games. 5 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Great guy & I appreciate his football character, but it’s been 4 years now, he needs to be upgraded. 5 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rico said: Great guy & I appreciate his football character, but it’s been 4 years now, he needs to be upgraded. Agree. Thanks for the memories. If Zimmer didn't get hurt he many not have dressed the rest of the year. They need to draft a true NT body in first three rounds next year 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Great guy, tough guy. Appreciate him, but as a backup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 tough break in a contract year.. no way he could get it repaired.. would have ended his career... which might be over anyway, but he had no choice but to play through it.. man, NFL careers are short. He's in a tough spot. Needs to get it fixed, but cannot afford the time off if he gets it fixed.. yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 That sucks - he's a tough dude for sure. Definitely need Star back asap!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Didn’t this happen in a preseason game? I remember when he was hurt and I’m surprised he wasn’t on the injury report. Kudos to him for gutting it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Didn’t this happen in a preseason game? I remember when he was hurt and I’m surprised he wasn’t on the injury report. Kudos to him for gutting it out. Bears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: How is he the highest graded DT? He’s mostly sucked. PFF... nuff said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Agree. Thanks for the memories. If Zimmer didn't get hurt he many not have dressed the rest of the year. They need to draft a true NT body in first three rounds next year There's a big difference between a true NT and a big 1T tackle in the NFL these days. The 1T is indeed a lane clogging, block absorbing, big-bodied tackle. However, the modern 4-3 type 1T needs to be way more mobile than the old-style 3-4 NT that people keep looking for the Bills to acquire. That said, Star seems to fit the mold beautifully, albeit not as strong and big as he could be. So, if we could find a young, strong big-bodied Star v2, that is the guy you should want for McD's prototypical 1T tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: How is he the highest graded DT? He’s mostly sucked. He's hurt alot. We will be going in another direction on DT soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: How is he the highest graded DT? He’s mostly sucked. Now we know why too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 50 minutes ago, Rico said: Great guy & I appreciate his football character, but it’s been 4 years now, he needs to be upgraded. He is fine as a depth player. And as much I as I would like him to be better now, maybe the injury helps the Bills. He could be tied up for 3 years for super cheap and well outplay his contract while we also find a better version of Star. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Tells ya exactly how much stock to take in the weekly "injury report". Also at is a nice reminder that not matter how well Joe Fan feels like they are informed on what's happening with the team...we know absolutely nothing. The only questions I have from this is if his PCL is partially torn...why is he practicing fully? Rest days during the weekly might be a good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: They’ll resign him… they love these type of players, even if they aren’t that good. They love him so much that he has 6 starts in 4 years and has been a healthy scratch about what...8 times? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mango said: He is fine as a depth player. And as much I as I would like him to be better now, maybe the injury helps the Bills. He could be tied up for 3 years for super cheap and well outplay his contract while we also find a better version of Star. Maybe on another team if he was a back-up only, but not if he plays every week as part of a rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I have no idea how football players do stuff like this... Thurman Thomas played his whole career with a torn ACL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I tore my PCL in HS. Its mostly a pain thing after a while. I think it lingered for me all season. I probably wasnt fully healed until after the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I have no idea how football players do stuff like this... Thurman Thomas played his whole career with a torn ACL Other players have too and some without an ACL. I think the surrounding structure around that knee compensates for it to keep it strong….along with the brace of course. I would also guess that the player would be much more injury prone and its pretty much incredible Thomas wasn’t always injured. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: How is he the highest graded DT? He’s mostly sucked. I like him, but it’s tough to see how he could be graded higher than Oliver or Lotulelei. Edited November 29, 2021 by vincec 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: They love him so much that he has 6 starts in 4 years and has been a healthy scratch about what...8 times? Exactly...there's no way we resign Phillips. We'll keep him around as depth for the next couple years but finding a starting replacement for Star will be a top priority. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly...there's no way we resign Phillips. We'll keep him around as depth for the next couple years but finding a starting replacement for Star will be a top priority. I think Star might get extended a year after the way he's been playing. I think McDermott is getting sick and tired of getting pushed around and expect him to get bigger in the middle this offseason via FA and draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Can’t imagine McD will be thrilled about him making this public. With that said, appreciative of what he’s given us this year. Particularly with Star out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The dude is and always has been about team & i don't know if anyone has the heart that this guy does i would love to see what he could do if he stayed completely healthy for a off season & during the following season he definitely is a player i think helps the Bills D and proves it with his actions !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Agree. Thanks for the memories. If Zimmer didn't get hurt he many not have dressed the rest of the year. They need to draft a true NT body in first three rounds next year I’m not sure about 1st 3 rounds. I’ve been on the bandwagon for replacing Bobby Johnson with someone that can coach players up… and now I’m also thinking that John Washington may need to go as well. Hard to believe they can’t find any FA or day 3 DT’s who would be better than JAG Harry or Butler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: 6 starts? He’s been a significant part of the dline rotation when he is active… and he missed just about all of 2019 with an ACL tear. Played in 12 games last season and 8 this season. They def love him… "When he's active"....LOL. Is that your argument? Then why isn't he active every time he's healthy if they definitely love them? Does this really makes sense to you? A guy is a healthy scratch several times and you're arguing they love him lol. By the way, big win for your Jets! That win over the Texans can change a franchise around, especially when you have Corey Davis. Condolences on your Browns. Edited November 29, 2021 by Royale with Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: Tells ya exactly how much stock to take in the weekly "injury report". Also at is a nice reminder that not matter how well Joe Fan feels like they are informed on what's happening with the team...we know absolutely nothing. The only questions I have from this is if his PCL is partially torn...why is he practicing fully? Rest days during the weekly might be a good idea. You're right Hyde. He's played so little this felt like his 3rd year. Well 1 more season with Harry and bye bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think Star might get extended a year after the way he's been playing. I think McDermott is getting sick and tired of getting pushed around and expect him to get bigger in the middle this offseason via FA and draft. He's under contract for 2 more years. McBeane better have the middle of the DL shored up well before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: He's under contract for 2 more years. McBeane better have the middle of the DL shored up well before that. Wouldn't an extension free up some money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Wouldn't an extension free up some money? He just recently restructured from $10M/year to $6.2M/year. An extension might move some money around, but not sure how much more you are going to get him to bend. And he's already 32, I wouldnt promise him any more money after 35. Especially considering all his recent choices which impacted his availability. Edited November 29, 2021 by DrDawkinstein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 This is why I never complain about my mother in law, something could be broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 First.....love the player But come on....in that colts game he was getting stood up and moved all damn game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: First.....love the player I'm not so sure it's necessary for you to add this disclaimer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Beasley played with a broken leg. He does with a PCL. And so do many players. Yet most fans demean them. Hopefully their teammates appreciate and they get compensated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: when he gets healthy hes going to be a stud. Btw why did Zimmer get put on IR ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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