Our nemesis The New England Patriots

[Jerome007]

1 hour ago, Mat68 said:

They are built like a 2000’s football team.  I dont fear them.  No one on their offense is dynamic.  Stop the run make Mac Jones throw.  Add star and Brown back into the line up and I see it as a mis match.  

I agree... but the Bills do need to... stop the run!

 

Putting 5 DLs at times, often using 54 along 49 & 58 on 1st downs. Make them throw!

 

If White is down, using 5-2-4 and 4-3-4 instead of the so far usual 4-2-5 could help stop the run. Not for all teams, but the heavy running teams like Pats, Colts, Titans, Ravens.

 

Bills have more weapons. They should win.

[hondo in seattle]

2 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

Since our bye week, the Bills follow up solid performances with garbage performances.

 

Crushed the Dolphins

lost to the Jags

crushed the Jests

crushed by the Colts

crushed the Saints ...

 

Which Bills team will show up against the patriots ?

 

What do they call multiple personality disorder now?  Dissociative Identity Disorder?  Something like that?

 

That's the Bills.  You never know what team you'll get.

[Nextmanup]

3 hours ago, sonyab1974 said:

I checked their schedule. They won the last 5 games. 😬 The next game on December 6th is scary!

It's going to be as big and important of a regular season Bills game as we have seen in a couple of years.

 

You can't overstate how huge it is.  

 

I will be a nervous wreck.

 

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

It's going to be nice to see the Patriots lose 2 straight

[Success]

We need to take a good lead against them.

 

That's not a comeback team.  Put them in a position where Jones has to lead them back from more than a score down, and it takes away from everything that they try to do.

 

[P Riv]

15 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

Bills have more weapons. They should win.

 

We have more weapons than they do, but we play their defense, not their offense.  If this was a Sep game in nice weather we'd have an advantage, but THEY are built for bad weather, we aren't.  It's a night game in Dec. outside, running means a lot more than normal.  It's going to be a low scoring affair and a slugfest, probably coming down to turnovers, special teams and penalties.  We have more weapons, they have Hoodie and McDaniel's against our brain trust.  Unfortunately there is much more at stake for us than there is for them.  Preseason expectations, recent struggles and criticism, the past domination in our heads, and the game is at our house.  If we lose it's big, for them it just doesn't mean as much and I think they feel that too.  

[LeGOATski]

Dawson Knox and Hunter Henry are tied for most TDs by TEs.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

The Saints game was never going to give us any clarity on this team.  
 

New England should.  They, along with Indy, have been the most consistent AFC contenders as of late.    
 

That being said, I don’t think NE is anywhere near as dynamic as Indy on Offense, but their Defense (along with our OL starters back) should give us a better idea of where we are on Offense.  

Saints game gave me clarity…pretty good defense and we were still missing a few starters on the offensive line and we blew them out.   I was as negative as anyone after the Indy game but I think we blow out the pats assuming brown and feliciano and star are back…McDermott made Brady look pretty mortal running that NE offense I can’t imagine what he’s gonna do to Mack jones with 10 days to prepare 

[Fan in Chicago]

21 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Dawson Knox and Hunter Henry are tied for most TDs by TEs.

Pretty commendable for Knox considering the Pats** O is TE centric and ours is not

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

52 minutes ago, P Riv said:

 

We have more weapons than they do, but we play their defense, not their offense.  If this was a Sep game in nice weather we'd have an advantage, but THEY are built for bad weather, we aren't.  It's a night game in Dec. outside, running means a lot more than normal.  It's going to be a low scoring affair and a slugfest, probably coming down to turnovers, special teams and penalties.  We have more weapons, they have Hoodie and McDaniel's against our brain trust.  Unfortunately there is much more at stake for us than there is for them.  Preseason expectations, recent struggles and criticism, the past domination in our heads, and the game is at our house.  If we lose it's big, for them it just doesn't mean as much and I think they feel that too.  

How do we even know what the pats are good at? They are playing the same terrible schedule as us lol is their statement win beating the browns who were missing both starting rbs and baker was playing injured? They seem very similar to us in that they’re blowing out average/bad teams and we don’t really know how they’ll perform against good/great ones 

[78thealltimegreat]

5 hours ago, Cygnus99 said:

We have to sweep them !! Is it gonna happened ? Probably not . Are we gonna get swept ? Probably not . I see a split . 

New England Patriots remaining schedule : 

Titans , At Bills , Bye , At Colts , Bills , at Jaguars , Dolphins : I see 4 wins for them 

Buffalo Bills remaining schedule : 

Patriots , At Bucs , Panthers , at Patriots , Falcons , NY Jets : I can see 4 wins we are not winning out 

Final standings Bills and Patriots 11-6 

There is a relatively high probability that the Bills and Patriots will have the same record I am thinking 11-6 . who would win the division ? I am hoping the Patriots fall apart but most likely that is not going to happen . If we win out which would be awesome yes the division is ours . GO BILLS ! 

I honestly have no fear of them I respect their franchise for their ability to kinda stay ahead of the curve and have officials in their back pocket but having seen a few of their games if you match their physicality you beat them and they owe Justin Herbert for having a major brain fart at the end of the chargers game 

Edited November 26, 2021 by 78thealltimegreat

[DieHardFan]

IM(never)HO the key to the game will be #17's mindset. Win yesterday made a great roadtrip but very concerned about the 2 stupid interceptions and the unnecessary runs. Use your legs when the score dictates but don't risk injury (and the season) by cowboy {yippee ki yo vs dallas type) heroics when the game is firmly in hand. Confidence is good but smart play wins games.

[sonyab1974]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

It's going to be as big and important of a regular season Bills game as we have seen in a couple of years.

 

You can't overstate how huge it is.  

 

I will be a nervous wreck.

 

 

 

Yeah very very HUGE and very very scary. I'll be a nervous wreck too!!!!

[Johnnycage46]

26 minutes ago, DieHardFan said:

IM(never)HO the key to the game will be #17's mindset. Win yesterday made a great roadtrip but very concerned about the 2 stupid interceptions and the unnecessary runs. Use your legs when the score dictates but don't risk injury (and the season) by cowboy {yippee ki yo vs dallas type) heroics when the game is firmly in hand. Confidence is good but smart play wins games.

 

One of his INTs his arm was very clearly hit...I personally wouldn't call that a stupid play by Allen (like, at all).  And on his 1st INT, Brees even commented it looked like it was a miscommunication between Allen and Diggs (Allen thinking Diggs was going to break one way and Diggs broke the other way).  IMO these 2 pics were not the garden variety Hero Ball INTs Allen has been prone too now and again.

[Fan in San Diego]

To win the AFC East we need to sweep the Cheats! Nuff said.

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I'm glad NE is good. MNF is the biggest regular season game in Buffalo in a long time. This is going to be amazing.

3 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said:

To win the AFC East we need to sweep the Cheats! Nuff said.

 

Not really because they lost to Miami. As long as we split we probably win the division.

[In Summary]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The best defense against a strong running game imo is a strong offense.

 

The Colts dominated both lines of scrimmage. If NE does that it'll be a similar result.

Barring the return of a healthy Star and a crazed Oliver, the Bills lose the "push" matchup up the middle on both lines. NE very good at executing the long (time) drive.  Bigger concern for the Bills' offense.  Belichick will do everything he can to get into Allen's head and get him to unravel.  

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said:

This is fast becoming a New England Patriots message board. 

 

 

Pathetic

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

How do we even know what the pats are good at? They are playing the same terrible schedule as us lol is their statement win beating the browns who were missing both starting rbs and baker was playing injured? They seem very similar to us in that they’re blowing out average/bad teams and we don’t really know how they’ll perform against good/great ones 

 

They did play great against the Bucs and Cowboys. Well, their defense was great against the Bucs and their offense was great against the Cowboys. 

 

But their offense most recently didn't look that great against a questionable Falcons defense. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

6 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

If we split with the Pats and have same record, as long as we beat the Jets too we would win the division based on better division record (5-1 v 4-2).

 

Very good point. 

[GottaRun]

So are people wanting the easier path to the Division and the pats losing to the Titans, or are you looking for the more nerve wracking pats win against the Titans but the Bills take care of the pats twice to have a shot at the Conference?  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

They did play great against the Bucs and Cowboys. Well, their defense was great against the Bucs and their offense was great against the Cowboys. 

 

But their offense most recently didn't look that great against a questionable Falcons defense. 

Played ‘great’ but lost both

[CodeMonkey]

6 hours ago, SCBills said:

I honestly don’t think we know… we’re legitimately figuring out a few things… 
 

How to play as the hunted. 
 

How to play against the defense deployed to stop, specifically, Buffalo and KC.  
 

I think our Defense is what it is… (with Tre or without).   Elite against average or below Offenses.   Inconsistent against balanced/good Offenses.  
 

It’s up to our Offense to get back to the point where they’re putting 30+ on the board and allowing our Defense to play against teams trying to keep up.  

I agree with you, but that's not clarity.  That's stating where the Bills need to improve. You are very clear on where they are or else you would not have been spot on with your statements

Edited November 26, 2021 by CodeMonkey

[Mat68]

2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

How do we even know what the pats are good at? They are playing the same terrible schedule as us lol is their statement win beating the browns who were missing both starting rbs and baker was playing injured? They seem very similar to us in that they’re blowing out average/bad teams and we don’t really know how they’ll perform against good/great ones 

Titans beat NE imo.  They have Matt Judon and thats really it.  Diggs stole J.C Jacksons lunch last year in NE.  The next game could very well look like the last.  No Star, No Edmunds is something no media member will mention in regards to the Indy game.  Having both back greatly impact our chances in snuffing out the run.   

[swimtoga]

4 hours ago, Success said:

 

With me, it's less fear, and more PTSD.

 

I can relate we were used to be down so much. However, down here, it's our time. It's our time down here. That's all over the second we ride up Troy's bucket.

[Blank Stare]

Now AJ Brown out for this game? Are you kidding me. Cheats must be the luckiest team in the league playing against undermanned teams all year. 

[Success]

Well, they think they're a shoo-in for the division now.  A quick glance at their boards & it's equal parts celebratory and assured that losing White will end the Bills chances.

 

Man, does that fanbase grate on me.

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Mat68 said:

Titans beat NE imo.  They have Matt Judon and thats really it.  Diggs stole J.C Jacksons lunch last year in NE.  The next game could very well look like the last.  No Star, No Edmunds is something no media member will mention in regards to the Indy game.  Having both back greatly impact our chances in snuffing out the run.   

I find it so strange that the media just doesnt seem to care about our injuries…I guess a Pre season superbowl contender having a meltdown is the better story than what is really happening

15 minutes ago, Success said:

Well, they think they're a shoo-in for the division now.  A quick glance at their boards & it's equal parts celebratory and assured that losing White will end the Bills chances.

 

Man, does that fanbase grate on me.

 

They really have to beat us twice to assure that and I just don’t see it even if they really are the better team 

[Jeffbigalls]

7 hours ago, McBean said:

Tom Brady is gone. 

 

The end.

 

The Pats are so overrated it's sick. 

 

We sweep them. 

Just like Indy was gonna be an easy win, and the jags. 

1 hour ago, driddles said:

So are people wanting the easier path to the Division and the pats losing to the Titans, or are you looking for the more nerve wracking pats win against the Titans but the Bills take care of the pats twice to have a shot at the Conference?  

Pats should win that game with ease. The Titans have no offensive weapons period

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, driddles said:

So are people wanting the easier path to the Division and the pats losing to the Titans, or are you looking for the more nerve wracking pats win against the Titans but the Bills take care of the pats twice to have a shot at the Conference?  

It’s going be very very hard for that Titans O to score on the Pats D. They are missing their top WR and top RB add in its at Gillette. It’s going be all tied up too come Monday night. 

[TBBills]

8 hours ago, sonyab1974 said:

I checked their schedule. They won the last 5 games. 😬 The next game on December 6th is scary!

It means they are due for a let down.

 

Then again the Bills are due for a let down every other week...

Edited November 26, 2021 by TBBills

[jkeerie]

Once again NE faces a weakened opponent.  Not only is Derrick Henry out of this game, but also AJ Brown.  He has a chest injury.  Dang!

Edited November 27, 2021 by jkeerie

[TBBills]

2 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

Once NE faces a weakened opponent.  Not only is Derrick Henry out of this game, but also AJ Brown.  He has a chest injury.  Dang!

That is the story of every game they have played. Someone important not playing.

[billybob71]

if the Bills can manage to sweep the pats and win the division it will be the most satisfying thing i have witnessed as a fan, and i have been a fan since 1979

LETS FREAKIN GO!!!! with all that said i am making this post almost as therapy to make myself feel better, I am not too confident it will happen but that may be my Bills fan traumatic pessimism kickin in, Please help me feel better fellow Bills fans, and i will admit to having one too many cocktails today.

Edited November 27, 2021 by billybob71

[Success]

2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

It’s going be very very hard for that Titans O to score on the Pats D. They are missing their top WR and top RB add in its at Gillette. It’s going be all tied up too come Monday night. 

 

Humble brag.

 

[Scott7975]

10 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

The Patriots can run the ball very well tho, which means I hope Star is back...

 

Amazingly, even after giving up 285 yards rushing to the Colts, we are still 4th in the NFL in rush yards per game allowed with only 96.6

 

That could partially be deceptive.  We blew a lot of teams out.  They probably didnt run much.  13th in attempts against.

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, TBBills said:

That is the story of every game they have played. Someone important not playing.

 

Like we will be without White both games.

[Old Coot]

Belichick will have his team ready to play and will likely use some pressure to rattle Josh.

 

We better show up for this game.  Our execution will need to be almost flawless

[Johnnycage46]

19 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Humble brag.

 

Troll is going to troll.  Its kind of his MO

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

That could partially be deceptive.  We blew a lot of teams out.  They probably didnt run much.  13th in attempts against.

 

Not really, our YPC is good...and why would teams keep trying to run the ball if all it did was have them end up in 3rd and longs?

Edited November 27, 2021 by Big Turk