YoloinOhio Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) Preliminary Bills Stadium Analysis https://esd.ny.gov/sites/default/files/news-articles/ESD-Bills-Stadium-Analysis-Summary-FINAL-11-1-21.pdf Didn’t make a recommendation between Buffalo or OP. new OP stadium at $1.35 billion versus $2.1 billion in Buffalo. Edited November 2, 2021 by YoloinOhio 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Wow, that's a big document. I was expecting: 1. Yes, they could do with one The end 2 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Preliminary Bills Stadium Analysis https://esd.ny.gov/sites/default/files/news-articles/ESD-Bills-Stadium-Analysis-Summary-FINAL-11-1-21.pdf Didn’t make a recommendation between Buffalo or OP. new OP stadium at $1.35 billion versus $2.1 billion in Buffalo. Why is is 750 mil more to build downtown? Destruction of area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Jump to the imPotent stuff. Downtown Dome, right?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Wow, that's a big document. I was expecting: 1. Yes, they could do with one The end That’s your tax money working for you! Somebody had to be paid the be VERY THOROUGH (while not saying much). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Roof it for the $1.6B. If the team keeps winning it won't make a big difference in attendance or revenue. But if they start losing again.........could mean A LOT to attendance and therefore revenue..........and also the quality of play and ability to attract talent. Sh*tty weather seasons like this one and longer regular seasons that end in mid-January should be considered. 9 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Glad the study is out. Now all those agitating for access can finally STFU. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just please no dome... Most domes look absolutely awful on TV. I want to see swirling snow and dark clouds as a backdrop as I'm enjoying the game on my comfy couch! 2 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Well played by YOLO as the rest of us were monitoring the trade deadline and nominally performing our respective day jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Can't wait for this at our new stadium.... Put a fricken roof on it you morons. 6 4 3 7 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Open-air in Orchard Park… git er done!!! 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I think this confirms that OP will be the main area. Downtown sounds cool but I’m glad they’re sticking with tailgating 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: Can't wait for this at our new stadium.... Put a fricken roof on it you morons. Josh Allen confirmed himself that our new stadium won’t have a roof 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Just please no dome... Most domes look absolutely awful on TV. I want to see swirling snow and dark clouds as a backdrop as I'm enjoying the game on my comfy couch! Or...they can just add that digitally while those of us at the game not die from exposure. 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: Just please no dome... Most domes look absolutely awful on TV. I want to see swirling snow and dark clouds as a backdrop as I'm enjoying the game on my comfy couch! I love real football weather as well. Trouble is football isn't built for real weather anymore. 1 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: I think this confirms that OP will be the main area. Downtown sounds cool but I’m glad they’re sticking with tailgating Josh Allen confirmed himself that our new stadium won’t have a roof I wouldn’t say he confirmed it, he basically said “it’s sounding like it won’t be a dome”. I doubt the players know any more than we do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Sounds about right. I could’ve done it in two pages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, Virgil said: Why is is 750 mil more to build downtown? Destruction of area? My guess is more infrastructure work 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just buy the plans from Seattle and build that. The mock-up is already done. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Or...they can just add that digitally while those of us at the game not die from exposure. Nah, not the same! I want to say "man what a crazy weather day it must be there!" as I sit in my Zubaz pants curled up with my cat and sipping a beer enjoying the crazy scene. Colts, Saints, and Falcons stadiums are almost unwatchable on TV, and it's a TV product! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 retractable roof 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, pi2000 said: retractable roof Waste of money. Roof or not. Don't spend and extra $500MM on a sunroof. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Waste of money. Roof or not. Don't spend and extra $500MM on a sunroof. Agreed! Retractable roof is pointless because it's never open anyway. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, TheFunPolice said: Agreed! Retractable roof is pointless because it's never open anyway. And when it is, it really isn't. It's a sunroof on a sedan. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Waste of money. Roof or not. Don't spend and extra $500MM on a sunroof. retractable tarp? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 There is only one correct answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, pi2000 said: retractable tarp? Just scale it up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: And when it is, it really isn't. It's a sunroof on a sedan. That is certainly what it it like in Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta. “Oh, look! There’s a hole up there!” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Virgil said: Why is is 750 mil more to build downtown? Destruction of area? Probably combination of required/recommend infrastructure work to support extra vehicular and foot traffic along with funds that will be required to acquire any extra land that might be needed to support the stadium and surrounding complexes. Also extra survey work to determine any environmental impacts, assess soil quality and any potential remediation efforts required. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Fans may not want a dome but i would bet a lot of money players do. Players dont like playing in cold weather. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 For the love of god don't put it downtown, the traffic jam would last until tuesday. The infrastructure can barely handle the daily commute. Build it across the street from the current one. I would prefer a dome but it's not a dealbreaker, the important thing is that they don't cheap out and build it 50 feet underground this time. THAT'S what causes the swirling winds that make it awful to play at. Open air stadiums work fine in cold cities, e.g., Green Bay, Pittsburgh, KC, NE. 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Browsing the report, I would say spend the extra $300M, and build a new stadium with a roof in OP. That's my choice. Too much anciliary costs with building in Downtown, moving residents and business, demolition of buildings, clean up, building the new stadium. $2.1 Billion would be a ground level cost in my opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, Virgil said: Why is is 750 mil more to build downtown? Destruction of area? that 2.1 billion is a worst case scenario in terms of costs and also includes the most expensive options such as a roof, the low end estimate for a downtown stadium was 350 M more than in OP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: Just buy the plans from Seattle and build that. The partially-covered Seattle model has been my preference since it was built. Fantastic design! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 42 minutes ago, Virgil said: Why is is 750 mil more to build downtown? Destruction of area? parking, egress in and out etc That’s my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Give me Minnesota's glass cover where it shows a ton of sun and natural light to the point it looks like your outside at points if you were to do a roof. Otherwise outdoor do what Seattle has. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, corta765 said: Give me Minnesota's glass cover where it shows a ton of sun and natural light to the point it looks like your outside at points if you were to do a roof. Otherwise outdoor do what Seattle has. That is a beautiful building and doesn’t feel like a typical dome. The windows at one end do open up. It’s actually got a “mall” feel in the wide open concourses. My personal preference would be an open stadium with some covered seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said: For the love of god don't put it downtown, the traffic jam would last until tuesday. The infrastructure can barely handle the daily commute. Build it across the street from the current one. I would prefer a dome but it's not a dealbreaker, the important thing is that they don't cheap out and build it 50 feet underground this time. THAT'S what causes the swirling winds that make it awful to play at. Open air stadiums work fine in cold cities, e.g., Green Bay, Pittsburgh, KC, NE. Most of the extra money in the Downtown spec is for building out additional road ways, and infrastructure. If the stadium was already downtown and we were talking about moving it to OP, you'd be saying "For the love of god, Abbott, Southwestern, and the 219 can't handle all that traffic. And a suburb doesnt have the infrastructure needed..." but here we are. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Build. A. Dome 2 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I prefer open air but the smart move would probably be a roof. Just hate to think of a 2014 snowstorm and 7 feet of snow on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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