If we trade for a RB, who would you want?

[Albany,n.y.]

47 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Why would it be unrealistic? He is due for a contract in 2 years, and they might not want to sign him to a new contract. It doesn’t hurt to ask. We are ready for a SB right now, and Saquon would be the missing piece. We can worry about the contract mess next year after we win the super bowl with him this year. It would be worth it. 

He's only a missing piece if he's on the field.  He's missing another game tonight.  Remember what a great acquisition Sean Merriman was?  

[Milanos Milano]

The fact that Singletary and Moss are leading the polls is precisely why the Bills are never going to win a super bowl. It’s time to think big guys, we have the pieces, but we need stronger pieces to get us over the hump. We need to trade for Scherff and Barkley. 

[JohnNord]

56 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I think we are a start RB from being nearly unstoppable on offense. What would you do given we are nearly built for a super bowl run already. 

I’ll trade for the running back that will look best getting stacked up at the LOS 

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, JohnNord said:

I’ll trade for the running back that will look best getting stacked up at the LOS 

That would be Barkley. 

4 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

He's only a missing piece if he's on the field.  He's missing another game tonight.  Remember what a great acquisition Sean Merriman was?  

Our team is much much further along than the Merriman piece. We just need another guard and a star RB. 

[Rc2catch]

Some of you live in fantasy land too much. This isn’t the NBA or MLB where blockbuster trades happen at the deadline. 
Teams will surely deal some aging vets on the last year of their deal for picks. But most teams are not out of the playoff hunt and are not going to unload young elite talent, and that seems to be what most expect. And Beane will probably catch some hate cause he didn’t make a blockbuster deal. In reality there are very few players actually on the trade block despite the rumor mill that swirls yearly 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

I can’t think of a single worse investment for this team than a star rb lol i live in giants territory and have seen saquon getting corralled in the backfield by 3-4 defenders on 90% of his carries behind the giants garbage run blocking more times than I can count

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, Rc2catch said:

Some of you live in fantasy land too much. This isn’t the NBA or MLB where blockbuster trades happen at the deadline. 
Teams will surely deal some aging vets on the last year of their deal for picks. But most teams are not out of the playoff hunt and are not going to unload young elite talent, and that seems to be what most expect. And Beane will probably catch some hate cause he didn’t make a blockbuster deal. In reality there are very few players actually on the trade block despite the rumor mill that swirls yearly 

LOL tell that to the rams with Von Miller. Good teams find a way to get better. No more excuses. 

[Albany,n.y.]

2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

That would be Barkley. 

Our team is much much further along than the Merriman piece. We just need another guard and a star RB. 

I'm comparing Barkley's availability to Merriman's, which like Barkley was usually Un.  

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 minute ago, Rc2catch said:

Some of you live in fantasy land too much. This isn’t the NBA or MLB where blockbuster trades happen at the deadline. 
Teams will surely deal some aging vets on the last year of their deal for picks. But most teams are not out of the playoff hunt and are not going to unload young elite talent, and that seems to be what most expect. And Beane will probably catch some hate cause he didn’t make a blockbuster deal. In reality there are very few players actually on the trade block despite the rumor mill that swirls yearly 

The Rams traded for Von Miller today. I don’t care what other teams are doing. If you can get a guy that can put us in the super bowl, go do it. These draft picks will have a hard enough time making our roster in the first place.

[Rc2catch]

Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

LOL tell that to the rams with Von Miller. Good teams find a way to get better. No more excuses. 

You clearly did not read what I said. 
Aging vets on the last years or their deal. You can beat your drum all you want but almost every player you want is NOT available. 

1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The Rams traded for Von Miller today. I don’t care what other teams are doing. If you can get a guy that can put us in the super bowl, go do it. These draft picks will have a hard enough time making our roster in the first place.

As I said above, aging vets on the last year of their deals may be available. Not young elite talent. 

[Milanos Milano]

Just now, Rc2catch said:

You clearly did not read what I said. 
Aging vets on the last years or their deal. You can beat your drum all you want but almost every player you want is NOT available. 

Everyone has a price. The problem is Beane isn’t willing to make big boy deals. That’s his problem. In order to hit the next level, you have to be willing to go out on a limb. He’s afraid because he doesn’t want to whiff and be put in a predicament. Our team just doesn’t have enough to talent to beat a team like TB or the rams because of the line battles. We need to trade for a OG and a RB that is better than what we have. The RBs available in the draft this year or in FA are not good enough. 

[Rc2catch]

5 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Everyone has a price. The problem is Beane isn’t willing to make big boy deals. That’s his problem. In order to hit the next level, you have to be willing to go out on a limb. He’s afraid because he doesn’t want to whiff and be put in a predicament. Our team just doesn’t have enough to talent to beat a team like TB or the rams because of the line battles. We need to trade for a OG and a RB that is better than what we have. The RBs available in the draft this year or in FA are not good enough. 

Please tell me how many trade deadline deals that actually made an impact the last 20 years? Guys under 30 years old? It doesn’t work in the NFL and you can’t blame Beane for teams not wanting to part with talent. 
And just to be clear, that New Orleans team yesterday sure as heck didn’t have enough talent to beat Tampa, and they did. 

Edited November 1, 2021 by Rc2catch

[reddogblitz]

59 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

The fact this team keeps using Allen as a battery ram is going to absolutely come back to bite us. It’s ridiculous that the coaches are even doing it. 

 

Amen. Anyone see what happened to Darnold yesterday on one of those designed runs?

[LeGOATski]

30 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Swift.  
 

He’s immediately our primary back.  Allows Moss to be what he should be, the rotational back.  Swift is also a great receiving back, giving Josh another threat in the passing game. 

Moss would more likely be snapless or inactive...

What happened to Phillip Lindsey? If the Texans don't want him, he could be a cheap option. He's always been super quick at hitting the hole and getting upfield with top speed to separate.

[Teddy KGB]

19 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Everyone has a price. The problem is Beane isn’t willing to make big boy deals. That’s his problem. In order to hit the next level, you have to be willing to go out on a limb. He’s afraid because he doesn’t want to whiff and be put in a predicament. Our team just doesn’t have enough to talent to beat a team like TB or the rams because of the line battles. We need to trade for a OG and a RB that is better than what we have. The RBs available in the draft this year or in FA are not good enough. 

[Devilmann]

We need O Line help. Realistically if we get better at O Line then our run game should be a little bit better. 

[reddogblitz]

36 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

Not sure why don't we activate him and give him some screens and swing passes, I mean why not see what we have in him? If he's garbage then we at least know.

 

He's the new TJ Yeldon.

[cDAVIS]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Barry Sanders couldn’t run behind this offensive line

You sir are 100% correct. RBs are a dime a dozen. There's no way we're getting a CMC/Dalvin Cook/Kamara type and even they wouldn't succeed much with this offense

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

Seems  they like short, slow running backs. If we had a Najee Harris type back we would be almost unstoppable. Hate seeing these two run for for zero yards so often. Very frustrating to be so weak at this position.

[Ray Finkel]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I can’t blame Singletary for running into the back of Mitch Morse because Morse is getting pushed 5 yds into the backfield or because Feliciano is getting beat like a drum. I think both Motor/Moss can be capable backs with better, more physical linemen 

Wait until he has to go against Vita Vea. Yikes

[JerseyBills]

Moss has been the guy for sure.

I like him and Motor as a change of pace back. 

I don't see Beane n Co dumping big $ in one of those RBs as well as trading for em

[Dopey]

1 hour ago, nedboy7 said:

I love some Bills bashing.  Not really.  I find it weird.  It's almost neurotic here. I hate to break you all some bad news.  These ranking came out yesterday.  Read em & weep. Get angry!   Bills at #5.  Yeah I now.  PFN sucks and only we know our line ***** sucks.  I think they are a little over rated here? and more like average.  But the narrative that a RB cant run behind this line is garbage. 

 

#5

The Bills are the first of five teams on this list to rank inside the top 10 both in terms of the run and pass game. They are a marginally better unit against the run compared to the pass, but they’ve been solid this season in both.

Their numbers in the passing game are somewhat elevated by the escapability and mobility of Josh Allen. Nevertheless, it’s clear on tape that the OL has stepped up significantly from last season.

 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-offensive-lines-in-the-nfl-ranked-for-2021/

 

 

We. Have. To. Have . A. Whipping. Boy.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

The last thing we need is an RB. We need two guards.

Winning answer....end of thread....

[clearwater cadet]

2 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I think we are a start RB from being nearly unstoppable on offense. What would you do given we are nearly built for a super bowl run already. 

You could be right, but I think our O-line is weak, and no matter who is there they would struggle.

[Don Otreply]

why would we trade for another RB??? Have you all seen our guys run block?

 

Go Bills!!!

[blacklabel]

They’re not going to trade for a running back just like they didn’t draft one when half the fan base thought for sure they were definitely going to spend a high round pick on a running back despite picking Singletary and Moss in the third in back to back years. The problem doesn’t fall on those guys. It falls on the OL up front for not getting a consistent push and opening up lanes for them. Both backs have exceptional vision, that’s one of my favorite things about them. Both guys are very good at finding the crease and punching through it. The problem is that every other handoff these dudes are being tackled the moment they get the ball. I also wonder if it’s scheme a little bit as well. Daboll is a very clever and creative play designer but I feel like he can be inconsistent as a play caller. Sometimes it feels like he’s determined to make something work despite the opponent shutting it down play after play. “We’re gonna pound the rock inside!” Opposing defense: lol no you’re not, you tried eleven times already and you’ve got four yards. 

[Marv's Neighbor]

Better a FB than a RB.  Josh is going to get hurt on short yard run attempts.

[freddyjj]

A FA retired all time Bills great RB was at game yday.....  Just saying. 

[The Frankish Reich]

I'd go cheap (like, 6th round pick cheap). Philip Lindsey, stuck in Houston, maybe a better outside option than Breida. 

[Norcalbillsfan]

With our o line I dont think we will ever be a run first team. I think we are more what we saw against dolphins 4th quarter, dice you up on short passes, then once the defense is spread out run the occasional draw or qb sneak to bring up the lbs then go back to dicing with our dangerous recievers.

 

But I still stand by activating brieda against the jags, give him some screens and dump offs and see how he does and see if josh likes it. Brieda has home run ability, moss and Singletary have to run over people they can't out run anyone. If brieda is terrible then at least we know and it's against the jags and we move on.

[Norcalbillsfan]

4 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

He's the new TJ Yeldon.

I hope not, brieda at least has blazing speed. I feel like the passes I've seen go to moss, alot of the passes he has open feild, imagine if instead of moss you have the fastest guy on the feild with the ball in his hands with space. I could be wrong and he's terrible but who cares if he's bad for 1 game against the jags, just send him back to inactive.

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

James Robinson if the injury is minor, Urban didn’t seem high on him going in to the season and they drafted Etienne in the 1st round.

[billsbackto81]

7 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I went with these 3 RBs, because I think given those teams situation, they would be the most “realistic” option. 

We can always address this in the draft next year. There are no good RBs in the draft this year and no good FAs. 

I honestly don’t know how anyone could choose just continue to roll with Singletary and Moss, they are terrible. 

Why address a dire position of need next year when our SB window is open right now? We are considered by most to be the best in the AFC. We should be trying to acquire G's to open holes for our current RB's and keeping Josh off his back and running for his life.

[Big Blitz]

Melvin Gordon and it isn't close.  

 

At least of the realistic options.  

 

Sure I'd want CMC or Aaron Jones but...

[The Frankish Reich]

14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Melvin Gordon and it isn't close.  

 

At least of the realistic options.  

 

Sure I'd want CMC or Aaron Jones but...

I've seen a lot of Gordon this year, and he does have plenty left in the tank. He's not a speedburner but he's got more speed to get outside than either Singletary or Moss, and he's also more skilled in the passing game than either of them. And the Broncos really should be willing to take whatever they can get for him at this point. Not a thrilling acquisition, but an upgrade is an upgrade.

[Solomon Grundy]

11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I've seen a lot of Gordon this year, and he does have plenty left in the tank. He's not a speedburner but he's got more speed to get outside than either Singletary or Moss, and he's also more skilled in the passing game than either of them. And the Broncos really should be willing to take whatever they can get for him at this point. Not a thrilling acquisition, but an upgrade is an upgrade.

Isn't Gordon a fumbler?

[Thurman#1]

12 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I went with these 3 RBs, because I think given those teams situation, they would be the most “realistic” option. 

We can always address this in the draft next year. There are no good RBs in the draft this year and no good FAs. 

I honestly don’t know how anyone could choose just continue to roll with Singletary and Moss, they are terrible. 

 

 

That's the thing ... they're not. They're solid to good, but not great. You don't get a 5.1 YPC by being terrible, you simply don't, and they're both really really good pass blockers, which the Bills greatly value for the obvious reason.

 

People seem to want a top five RB, and that's a misuse of resources. We're not going to run an RB enough to make it worth paying huge $ for one or using big draft capital on one.

 

We need a guard, maybe a CB, much more than we need an RB. A lot more.

 

 

Edited November 2, 2021 by Thurman#1

[Tommy]

15 hours ago, SCBills said:

Swift.  
 

He’s immediately our primary back.  Allows Moss to be what he should be, the rotational back.  Swift is also a great receiving back, giving Josh another threat in the passing game. 

 

The Lions aren't trading Swift. I don't know why anyone thinks he would be available. He's a young and talented player on the 2nd year of his rookie deal.

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, Tommy said:

 

The Lions aren't trading Swift. I don't know why anyone thinks he would be available. He's a young and talented player on the 2nd year of his rookie deal.

 

Oh, I agree - Simply picking from the options, as he'd be a home run back for us.   Do I think he'd be available?... No chance. 

[TheBrownBear]

Barkley and CMC are really the only two that can do everything and make guys miss for explosive plays.  None of the other guys (Swift, Ronald Jones, Marlon Mack, etc.) are marked upgrades over what we already have.