Someone needs to address the Jerry Hughes blackball issue.

[LABILLBACKER]

Someone needs to address why the entire league of refs refuse to do their job with regard to Jerry Hughes. This is beyond blatant. They've decided collectively to screw him because of his history of complaining.  Today in the 1st quarter he was blatantly held around his neck. Later in the game he has his helmet completely torn off as the announcers were waiting for a flag. No matter how hard he plays these cowards refuse to do their job. Shawn Smith and his crew are disgraces. And frankly so are the rest of these candy ass es.

[Aussie Joe]

Why would anything change now?

 

Its probably his last year.. 

[Rc2catch]

I’ve said this for years. I like jerry as a player, but he’s been kinda useless for us for the last 3+ years. He’s held constantly and never gets a call, he would of been better off somewhere else imo. 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

He still forced a fumble today.

[Motorin']

I thought it was Hughes that had his helmet ripped off. But it was Groot. 

 

Maybe the refs though it was Hughes too? 

[Simon]

Just now, Motorin' said:

I thought it was Hughes that had his helmet ripped off. But it was Groot. 

 

 

I thought it was Groot but everybody talked me out of it.

Thanks for the confirmation. 

[Motorin']

Just now, Simon said:

 

I thought it was Groot but everybody talked me out of it.

Thanks for the confirmation. 

 

I rewound during a commercial and confirmed it was Groot. 

[UConn James]

The refs and refs union HATE Jerry with a passion.
 

Getting that red suspended for calling him a b-word on-field and the altercation in the tunnel is always going to color how he is seen. They ignore when he gets absolutely mauled, like the almost-sack of Tua early, and they had been quick to toss yellow on him… although less so this year.

 

I’ve been advocating to move on from Jerry for a couple of seasons now. What he brings is just not worth what he costs in terms of ref-hate. He’s doubtful to be re-signed after this season, given Beane’s draft investment in DE/DL.

[Simon]

Just now, Motorin' said:

 

I rewound during a commercial and confirmed it was Groot. 

 

You kids and your high-fallutin technology....

[Malazan]

I don't believe officiating often 'gives' a game to one team or the other. I understand they can't get every call right. However, I expect consistency. If you're going to call something or not call something then it needs to be as consistent as possible throughout the game. 

 

Watching the NFL this year, the officiating is the least consistent I have ever seen. It's ridiculous. 

[ProcessAccepted]

#55 still a lot to this team. He opens things up for others, still gets pressure and the odd forced fumble not to mention his leadership is highly regarded by coaches and players. I'm convinced that a lot of posters just look at the box score and not actual games. Star was called useless a lot until he wasn't here last year and people saw the drop off from other players that benefit from his play. Hughes is the same, he will be missed when he's gone.

[LABILLBACKER]

4 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

I rewound during a commercial and confirmed it was Groot. 

Great now Groot's not getting calls....it's just so infuriating.  We watched this develop for years. Every single OC in the league is aware of this blackball. Just tell your lineman to do anything and everything. It's like playing with 10 no matter how much effort Jerry puts in.

[Motorin']

Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

Great now Groot's not getting calls....it's just so infuriating.  We watched this develop for years. Every single OC in the league is aware of this blackball. Just tell your lineman to do anything and everything. It's like playing with 10 no matter how much effort Jerry puts in.

 

A lot of times when the refs call illegal hands to the face, the lineman gets his hands up there and holds it for a long time.

 

On this play, the RT violently punches Groot in the face and his helmet pops right off. The punch only lasted a fraction of a second, so it's more likely that the refs didn't see it than having a personal reason not to call penalties that happen to Groot. 

[Mango]

18 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Why would anything change now?

 

Its probably his last year.. 

Jerry deserves to be a Bill for life (sans trade). He’s still got a decent amount of juice left. I really hope they can make something happen that works for everybody for another season or two. I’d hate to him in another jersey. 

[RiotAct]

28 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I thought it was Groot but everybody talked me out of it.

Thanks for the confirmation. 

 

28 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

I rewound during a commercial and confirmed it was Groot. 

 

I was telling my dad after that replay, either his helmet was on REALLY loose,  or someone (likely from the Dolphins) tore it off.

[Aussie Joe]

17 minutes ago, Mango said:

Jerry deserves to be a Bill for life (sans trade). He’s still got a decent amount of juice left. I really hope they can make something happen that works for everybody for another season or two. I’d hate to him in another jersey. 

I agree with you… really have rated him as a Bill…but just can’t see the refs changing now 

Edited October 31, 2021 by Aussie Joe

[Mr. WEO]

35 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

I thought it was Hughes that had his helmet ripped off. But it was Groot. 

 

 

But let's just say it's Hughes so we can enjoy this type of thread every week!!

 

 

Refs don't have it in for Hughes.  

 

[LABILLBACKER]

5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

I agree with you… really have rated him as a Bill…but just can’t see the refs changing now 

I know it might be too late to turn this around for Jerry. He's played great this season even though the stats may not reflect it. You have to have some integrity in your league and it's refs. McD has to address this in some manner. The refs are part of a "good ole boys club" that wields more power than you think. 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Rc2catch said:

I’ve said this for years. I like jerry as a player, but he’s been kinda useless for us for the last 3+ years. He’s held constantly and never gets a call, he would of been better off somewhere else imo. 

If you think he is useless……

 

you have absolute no clue what you’re watching out there.  Seriously man……you think he’s been useless???? 
 

58 minutes ago, Malazan said:

I don't believe officiating often 'gives' a game to one team or the other. I understand they can't get every call right. However, I expect consistency. If you're going to call something or not call something then it needs to be as consistent as possible throughout the game. 

 

Watching the NFL this year, the officiating is the least consistent I have ever seen. It's ridiculous. 

They are very consistent with how they referee Jerry.  It’s probably the most consistent thing in the league tbh

[RyanC883]

51 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

A lot of times when the refs call illegal hands to the face, the lineman gets his hands up there and holds it for a long time.

 

On this play, the RT violently punches Groot in the face and his helmet pops right off. The punch only lasted a fraction of a second, so it's more likely that the refs didn't see it than having a personal reason not to call penalties that happen to Groot. 

 

I mean, Groot should have walked over the play and just asked a ref politely, “do you happen to know how this came off?”

[Doc]

They haven’t almost since he joined the Bills. Why would they start now?

[Freddie's Dead]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Someone needs to address why the entire league of refs refuse to do their job with regard to Jerry Hughes. This is beyond blatant. They've decided collectively to screw him because of his history of complaining.  Today in the 1st quarter he was blatantly held around his neck. Later in the game he has his helmet completely torn off as the announcers were waiting for a flag. No matter how hard he plays these cowards refuse to do their job. Shawn Smith and his crew are disgraces. And frankly so are the rest of these candy ass es.

 

I said in the GDT that Jerry needs to have a meeting with the head of the refs union and apologize profusely for his past transgressions and beg them just to call it even for him.  It's become a complete joke that the guy can't get a holding call to save his life.  

[Mike in Horseheads]

Write a stern letter to the NFL! voila addressed.

[Motorin']

6 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I mean, Groot should have walked over the play and just asked a ref politely, “do you happen to know how this came off?”

 

He seems like the kind of guy that never complains about anything. Which is refreshing. He didn't even lose a step rushing while helmetless. 

 

But yeah, that was 1000% a personal foul, and wish he could have drawn some attention to it. 

[billsfanmiamioh]

Zebras were horrible today 

[Chaos]

26 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

He seems like the kind of guy that never complains about anything. Which is refreshing. He didn't even lose a step rushing while helmetless. 

 

But yeah, that was 1000% a personal foul, and wish he could have drawn some attention to it. 

Maybe our coaches could step up in this situation. 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

Can someone create a "Jerry's greatest holds" video featuring the 20 most blatant uncalled holds or helmet rips and circulate it?

[Motorin']

5 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Maybe our coaches could step up in this situation. 

 

There were a bunch of late flags today. But if the refs didn't see the strike to his face, I can't see anyone talking them into a penalty. 

 

Is that something the "eye in the sky" can call down to assess the penalty on?

[Utah John]

I'd love to see a compilation of videos for all the snaps Hughes gets, and the number of times he's held or assaulted without a call.  No sense sending something like to the NFL, which WANTS all the players to see what happens to a guy who complains too much.  But put it on line and talk it up so it gets traction on the daily TV shows.

[UConn James]

17 minutes ago, Utah John said:

I'd love to see a compilation of videos for all the snaps Hughes gets, and the number of times he's held or assaulted without a call.  No sense sending something like to the NFL, which WANTS all the players to see what happens to a guy who complains too much.  But put it on line and talk it up so it gets traction on the daily TV shows.

You think those shows want to piss off the NFL? Rocking the boat too much can only be bad for the golden goose that is their ad revenue for blowing hot air about a game.

[davefan66]

Refs today were absolute garbage.  Again.

[RJ (not THAT RJ)]

I'm aware of how big a homer I am, but still have to say I've been shocked by how bad the zebras have been (from the perspective of the Bills) the last month at least.  one can only hope things even out in the weeks to come.

[Nextmanup]

2 hours ago, Malazan said:

I don't believe officiating often 'gives' a game to one team or the other. I understand they can't get every call right. However, I expect consistency. If you're going to call something or not call something then it needs to be as consistent as possible throughout the game. 

 

Watching the NFL this year, the officiating is the least consistent I have ever seen. It's ridiculous. 

Officiating in the NFL is terrible, and the game has become far too complex and rule driven.

 

It's overly regulated.  I'd love to see that changed.

 

 

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:

Can someone create a "Jerry's greatest holds" video featuring the 20 most blatant uncalled holds or helmet rips and circulate it?

 

If it was magazine the referees would want to autograph page of their calls.

They have no shame.

 

I am pretty sure for every call they fail on Brady they need to call on someone else to balance books and Hughes is on top of their list.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 hours ago, UConn James said:

The refs and refs union HATE Jerry with a passion.
 

Getting that red suspended for calling him a b-word on-field and the altercation in the tunnel is always going to color how he is seen. They ignore when he gets absolutely mauled, like the almost-sack of Tua early, and they had been quick to toss yellow on him… although less so this year.

 

I’ve been advocating to move on from Jerry for a couple of seasons now. What he brings is just not worth what he costs in terms of ref-hate. He’s doubtful to be re-signed after this season, given Beane’s draft investment in DE/DL.

Who is playing better than Hughes at DE?  He had a strip sack today.  

[Matt_In_NH]

There was holding that was not called?   No way

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, RJ (not THAT RJ) said:

I'm aware of how big a homer I am, but still have to say I've been shocked by how bad the zebras have been (from the perspective of the Bills) the last month at least.  one can only hope things even out in the weeks to come.

They missed calls both ways today.  They should have called PI on White and one of the hands to the face against their DL was a phantom call with the defender just grabbing jersey and not pushing his mask back.  

[Orlando Tim]

7 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

They missed calls both ways today.  They should have called PI on White and one of the hands to the face against their DL was a phantom call with the defender just grabbing jersey and not pushing his mask back.  

The point of the thread is the fact that Jerry never gets called no matter what happens. Bad officials is part of the NFL but with Jerry it seems intentional because it is consistent from year to year.

[LABILLBACKER]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

The point of the thread is the fact that Jerry never gets called no matter what happens. Bad officials is part of the NFL but with Jerry it seems intentional because it is consistent from year to year.

It is absolutely intentional and the refs/shield know it, but ignore it. That's my intent for starting this long overdue thread. We all know Jerry's long history. The refs have collectively decided to make an example of him for challenging their power and authority. No matter how hard Jerry plays there will be ignored calls. This almost makes him a functioning "liability". If you call out the shield, will it make it worse? What do you do?

[Einstein's Dog]

IMO, the Hughes bias is over.  The refs miss stuff all the time and it is not blatant, intentional, conspiracy stuff.

 

However, not calling the Offside when Josh has them is starting to piss me off.  The top 10 QBs get those all the time.  They are not giving it to Josh.

 

Was a crucial non-call against Pitt -end of 3rd qtr- had 'em and no call.  So started 4th w 2nd and 10 instead of first and 5.  Was big miss IMO.

 

Happened again today.  Josh caught him in the neutral zone, got the ball hiked - and then no flag.  And these hurried plays are usually less effective, so not getting the call has a kind of double whammy affect - poor play and no call.  Today's was the grounding debacle.

 

Then to piss me off more, the announcers tried to claim it would have made offsetting penalties and the play would have been done over.  Remember this was on the grounding call.  I find that hard to believe.  In any event, even offsetting would have been much better than this missed call.

 

The refs need to start giving Josh/Bills the call when they have them in the neutral zone.  It's really starting to irritate me.