BuffaloBill Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Glad to know the Bills do not have this issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Bob in STL said: Social media gives a platform for a lot of bad things. It shows everyone how society really is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: worse. way worse. Bills Mafia/This Board turns into Bills Firing Squad after every loss, without fail. You can set your watch to it. When did they need a loss? We can win by 50 and certain people will still be calling for the head of Edmunds, Devin, Daboll, etc because we didn't win by 60. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Glad to know the Bills do not have this issue You missed a few weeks of this then. Bills players went at Bills fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: It’s obviously really easy for us to be able to say “they need to ignore it” and I would say for the most part athletes do a really good job of that. Yes they gets tons of praise, lots of money, all that stuff, but I’m also sure we all have no idea how much hate they receive on a daily basis. Death threats, threats to their family, people telling them how much they hate them, how terrible they are…after a while it has to add up. sounds like Matthieu just happened to reach his breaking point I'm sure the players get hate mail, death threats, threats to their family. Hell, we've occasionally gotten some of that here, not to mention just plain old vulgarity. On a message board fer cripes sake. Social media is a double-edged sword for the players because some of them want to use it to "influence" (for $$) or to "build their brand". So if you're open to that, you somewhat gotta take the bitter with the better. Somewhat. The stars, like Allen, can pretty much 100% turn their SM over to their PR team and post very rarely. Their brand is built by their play and a few IRL fan interactions. The solid players gotta engage more with fans and build a following to develop a brand. The thing is, all of these guys earn enough to employ PR teams to screen their social media, delete the nastygrams, and block people with viewpoints they don't want to hear (and the players themselves probably get twitchy on the block key). So there's really no need for the players to have to ignore viciousness - they can set it up to "bubble" themselves from it if they wish. Me, I said I wouldn't interact on SM and when I found myself doing it for a 3rd time I promptly deleted all my accounts, which is the nuclear option but for guys who can't help getting sucked into it, it works. 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: You missed a few weeks of this then. Bills players went at Bills fans. Bills "players" or one "Bills player", who subsequently deleted his account? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm sure the players get hate mail, death threats, threats to their family. Hell, we've occasionally gotten some of that here, not to mention just plain old vulgarity. On a message board fer cripes sake. Social media is a double-edged sword for the players because some of them want to use it to "influence" (for $$) or to "build their brand". So if you're open to that, you somewhat gotta take the bitter with the better. Somewhat. The stars, like Allen, can pretty much 100% turn their SM over to their PR team and post very rarely. Their brand is built by their play and a few IRL fan interactions. The solid players gotta engage more with fans and build a following to develop a brand. The thing is, all of these guys earn enough to employ PR teams to screen their social media, delete the nastygrams, and block people with viewpoints they don't want to hear (and the players themselves probably get twitchy on the block key). So there's really no need for the players to have to ignore viciousness - they can set it up to "bubble" themselves from it if they wish. Me, I said I wouldn't interact on SM and when I found myself doing it for a 3rd time I promptly deleted all my accounts, which is the nuclear option but for guys who can't help getting sucked into it, it works. Bills "players" or one "Bills player", who subsequently deleted his account? Feliciano and someone else was going at fans also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 hours ago, chris heff said: Society has always been toxic, people used to love public executions. True, but you didn’t have to hear everyone’s opinion on it for the next ten years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Our resident KC fans here have been great. But honestly, the rate of intolerability from KC fans has been really high. They surpassed what took pats fans 10 years to achieve. In other forums they are unbearable. If this team plays out like we think they might, Bills fans being unbearable is something I worry about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: worse. way worse. Bills Mafia/This Board turns into Bills Firing Squad after every loss, without fail. You can set your watch to it. Not even close to as toxic as the chiefs board That place makes this look like a wonderland... It's actually a cesspool there Edited October 30, 2021 by Buffalo716 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just go check out their message boards. I don't know about toxic but Chiefs fans are among the dumbest groups of people on this planet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Players don’t play for fans. They play for their teammates and themselves. act accordingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 If Chiefs planet is a snapshot of their fans then I agree 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 10 hours ago, White Linen said: The people that fund every reason the NFL exists, have every right to complain about player and team performances. They might be wrong, so debate about it. Fans can be crazy and the internet doesn't help - players can be crazy and the internet doesn't help. The fans don’t fund hardly any of it, the advertising contract dollars are where the money comes from, ticket and merchandise sales are a drop in the bucket by comparison, it’s so funny that some fans actually think this…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Mango said: Our resident KC fans here have been great. But honestly, the rate of intolerability from KC fans has been really high. They surpassed what took pats fans 10 years to achieve. In other forums they are unbearable. If this team plays out like we think they might, Bills fans being unbearable is something I worry about. Look at the GDT, it’s the most Bi-Polar part of the game day experience, some of those folk are truly Fuh Ked up, 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 46 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: The fans don’t fund hardly any of it, the advertising contract dollars are where the money comes from, ticket and merchandise sales are a drop in the bucket by comparison, it’s so funny that some fans actually think this…, ? Forbes estimated that the NFL would lose 38% of its total revenues if 2020 were played entirely without fans. https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2020/05/18/the-stadium-revenue-each-nfl-team-will-lose-if-games-are-played-without-fans/ As it was, with some stadia full and others limited or empty, NFL revenues dropped by 4 billion dollars, or about 25% That's a pretty large drop out of the bucket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Feliciano and someone else was going at fans also. I don't know about "someone else" but the only comment I saw from Feliciano was about being angry himself if fans were shouting at his car with his kids in it. Which was not a general attack on fans, just Truth (IMO) about how most of us would feel if folks with a beef at Dad expose their kids to it. Nasty and inappropriate (IMO). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 12 hours ago, Muppy said: this is not news to me Evidence: their fan board that was a straight up sewer it was BAD. That right there tells me something......war chanting ********. lol Their fan boards are pure filth. Mathieu is right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Their fan boards are pure filth. Mathieu is right. I mean, even granted that's true (and from what I've seen, it is), those may represent a "lowest common denominator" of fans Matthieu probably wouldn't think it was justified if fans pointed at some bad-behaving football players and generalized to all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 A clever, rival fanbase would take this opportunity to further divide Chiefs fans and their players by constantly reminding them that their identity is as a toxic group of fans and that their own players say so. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: The fans don’t fund hardly any of it, the advertising contract dollars are where the money comes from, ticket and merchandise sales are a drop in the bucket by comparison, it’s so funny that some fans actually think this…, The advertising dollars don't materialize without the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: ? Forbes estimated that the NFL would lose 38% of its total revenues if 2020 were played entirely without fans. https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2020/05/18/the-stadium-revenue-each-nfl-team-will-lose-if-games-are-played-without-fans/ As it was, with some stadia full and others limited or empty, NFL revenues dropped by 4 billion dollars, or about 25% That's a pretty large drop out of the bucket Okay, maybe I spoke out my azs to a degree, what I said is more accurate than what the poster I commented on stated, by the way, do those numbers reflect the new TV / advertising contract dollars? But getting back to the poster who seems to think he and his cohort have some kind of “right” well that’s still a lol statement, in which they chose to view…. That they chose to view affords them no rights, Go Bills!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: The advertising dollars don't materialize without the fans. It also does not afford any rights, being that viewing is optional…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 6 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Players don’t play for fans. They play for their teammates and themselves. act accordingly Do you really believe that Josh Allen doesn’t play for the us at all? Sure, his teammates, staff and family are higher on the totem pole, but I assure you that he plays for us. I can’t say every player does….. but Josh Allen does 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: It also does not afford any rights, being that viewing is optional…, How about the right to complain? You're 'advertising pays the rent' point was in response to: "The people that fund every reason the NFL exists, have every right to complain about player and team performances." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Aaand right on cue: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32511247/chiefs-safety-tyrann-mathieu-apologizes-criticizing-kansas-city-fans-social-media Dumbazzz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Aaand right on cue: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32511247/chiefs-safety-tyrann-mathieu-apologizes-criticizing-kansas-city-fans-social-media Dumbazzz Lol...Wonder if his agent told him to apologize or Reid, staff etc? Or did he decide to apologize on his own? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: The fans don’t fund hardly any of it, the advertising contract dollars are where the money comes from, ticket and merchandise sales are a drop in the bucket by comparison, it’s so funny that some fans actually think this…, Seriously? It's amazing that you don’t know why advertising money is given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 social media: more of a blessing or a curse in our world...hmmmmmm..I would say that depends on how you choose to partake of it. The internet is forever tis a very different existance than I could/would have ever imagined living through. Instnt communication instant knowledge instant Dirt instant backpedal...its getting Routine! lol amirite? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 41 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Aaand right on cue: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32511247/chiefs-safety-tyrann-mathieu-apologizes-criticizing-kansas-city-fans-social-media Dumbazzz Someone needs to explain to a poster commenting on mine, why he apologized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, White Linen said: Seriously? It's amazing that you don’t know why advertising money is given. I absolutely do, it is to get (in this case) Football fans to spend money on stuff that will likely be in a land fill with in a years time, your argument doesn’t hold water, being that you voluntarily view does not give you “rights”, that is like saying someone watching Jeopardy has supposed rights because of the advertising revenue gained during the program, it’s as laughable as what you stated. At least we will both be in agreement that the Bills are going to kick the Fins azsez for sixty straight minutes, 👍 Go Bills!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 18 hours ago, SirAndrew said: Society as a whole is toxic because of the internet. I’m not a Chiefs fan, but I don’t think there’s much to see here. The internet just gives toxic people a pseudo-anonymous outlet for their impulsive thoughts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 17 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: worse. way worse. Bills Mafia/This Board turns into Bills Firing Squad after every loss, without fail. You can set your watch to it. This is only the case because this franchise has yet to win a super bowl. Fans are tired of incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Hitchens absolutely has a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 If you've been on the Chiefs forum you'll see they are particularly vile. It's all half naked women avatars (because they're REAL men) and lots of tough, manly talk with lots of cussing. But there doesn't seem to be a lot between the ears. If you could attribute a film director to each team's fanbase then KC would definitely be Michael Bay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Hitchens absolutely has a point He does. He didn't massively overpay himself did he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I do have thoughts on this. However, if you want to experience them I have a Tik Tok video about it, using weak pop music, lip syncing and quick scene changes in what I am wearing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 6:07 AM, The 9 Isles said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/30/tyrann-mathieu-chiefs-might-have-one-of-the-most-toxic-fan-bases-in-all-of-sports/ “This might be one of the most toxic fan bases in all of sports,” Mathieu wrote on his verified Instagram account. Mathieu was agreeing with Hitchens, who posted a comment defending himself after the Chiefs fan account listed Hitchens’ contract as one of the three worst moves from Chiefs General Manager Brett Veach. “All we did was go to 3 AFC championship games and 2 Super Bowls and 1 SB win in my first 3 years here so far,” Hitchens wrote. “y’all fans will never be satisfied it’s sad!” Funny but I remember in the 90s when a lot of people in Buffalo complained about Kelly everyone he threw a pick or got embarrassed on MNF by Pittsburgh or “the bickering Bills” after every loss even though we won like crazy. Seems like we forget that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 7:18 AM, JMF2006 said: Sometimes we can be just as bad He can scold me when we win a Super Bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I get that as a collective the fans fund the nfl, but a lot of fans take themselves waaaaay to seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 some KC fans are pretty friggen bad tho. their gameday forums are a trash pile. Honeybadger should keep talkin sh!t at his teams fanbase tho, cuz when they turn all the way on him, ill laugh.....alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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