Juice_32 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Star is a monster…that is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/3/2021 at 5:56 PM, Dopey said: It's not just you. Question: what the hell were all you naysayers watching the past couple of seasons he played in?!? People have trouble understanding that players at his position should not be judged by numbers like tackles or sacks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 8:49 PM, Rico said: Right now, I think it looks like Star is back next year, with a new backup 1T drafted or signed to go with Oliver/Zim at 3T. He sure is in his great condition and strength Smart and high quality leadership qualities have been reported again this year. I have stayed steady and positive about Star al along. But this year he is true differnce maker and he is beast when you watch closely one handing each in double teams and still getting push I hope we get him back next season. at same level of play and humble price Go Star Go Bills D F4 Go Bills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/3/2021 at 3:56 PM, Dopey said: It's not just you. Question: what the hell were all you naysayers watching the past couple of seasons he played in?!? There are a few noisy posters here, that love to complain about Star, Edmunds, Wallace, etc, they are mostly wrong most of the time, their view of football is what was relevant in the game fifteen plus years ago, they don’t seem to want to understand/accept that the game has changed as to what the priorities on O & D are now, sure they are right now and again, (who the hell isn’t) and they cling to those rare moments, it makes them feel good, and that’s important for anyone’s psyche to feel good, they bring a certain, “ I do not know what” to the forum, and that’s okay, Go Bills!!! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 It’s obvious that Star didn’t sit around on his butt during his Covid opt out year...it appears he has added to his game, and the year of rest has obviously done wonders for him!! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/3/2021 at 5:56 PM, Dopey said: It's not just you. Question: what the hell were all you naysayers watching the past couple of seasons he played in?!? An interesting thought is would we all be appreciating him as much as we are now if he hadn't opted out last year? Not having the harder to see things that he does for a season I think really improved peoples opinions of him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 4:31 AM, The Wiz said: I think it would be hard for Doug marrone to not fit at least 6 "obviously" in this reply. Yea almost like he was checked out last year. I understand he missed every defensive line meeting too last year. It got so bad they didn't even write him a game check once last year! Guess the missed meeting fines no game checks woke him up a bit so he's more noticeable as he tries to regain his lunch money. He couldn't afford to eat as well last year missing all those game checks. You can see the weight he lost because that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Star is having the best season of his NFL career. What's motivated him to get in shape and play this hard? The pay cut? The team shifting to more of an attacking style of 1 tech? The realization that he can't be around his wife 24/7 so he needs to make this football thing last a lot longer? Who is to say? Maybe if he keeps playing well and they get to SB week someone will ask him that question. What we do know is that he underwhelmed in his first two years in Buffalo and was subsequently issued a pay cut. For people who do not believe the former.......see the latter. This organization does not ask players to take pay cuts unless they aren't playing well enough to justify the base salary........which at that point wasn't that high because they had already paid him around $15M in signing and other bonuses. He's been impactful and very fun to watch this season and it's also been hilarious reading all the "he's the same as always" crazy talk takes here on TSW. When Star Lotulelei is featured even remotely favorably on "pass rush win rate" graphs or charts you can rest assured there has been a seismic shift in his play. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Special K said: It’s obvious that Star didn’t sit around on his butt during his Covid opt out year...it appears he has added to his game, and the year of rest has obviously done wonders for him!! When the NHL lost a season due to a lockout in 04/05 a lot of the veteran players who didn’t play overseas said the year of rest and taking care of their bodies helped to extend their careers and improve their performance in the years that followed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 20 hours ago, AuntieEm said: Yea almost like he was checked out last year. I understand he missed every defensive line meeting too last year. It got so bad they didn't even write him a game check once last year! Guess the missed meeting fines no game checks woke him up a bit so he's more noticeable as he tries to regain his lunch money. He couldn't afford to eat as well last year missing all those game checks. You can see the weight he lost because that. Took me a moment but 😁 21 hours ago, Warcodered said: An interesting thought is would we all be appreciating him as much as we are now if he hadn't opted out last year? Not having the harder to see things that he does for a season I think really improved peoples opinions of him. He looks in his best shape. Changed his body around. Now he looks to be attacking again ! some times we need time away to refocus on what we love and what we wish to accomplish. Covid pandemic forced that upon some of Us. as far as Star? He looks the beast so far. Kudos to him, and McBeanes for knowing this dudes head coming into this season. I thought he was checked out honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, billsfan89 said: When the NHL lost a season due to a lockout in 04/05 a lot of the veteran players who didn’t play overseas said the year of rest and taking care of their bodies helped to extend their careers and improve their performance in the years that followed. I needed one of those "rest " seasons too reasonable points Bad. Let the Star roll on ! Cheering the laundry this year for me Every one is bringing something worthwhile at some point Matchups and rotations. love it Edited October 15, 2021 by 3rdand12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 33 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Took me a moment but 😁 He looks in his best shape. Changed his body around. Now he looks to be attacking again ! some times we need time away to refocus on what we love and what we wish to accomplish. Covid pandemic forced that upon some of Us. as far as Star? He looks the beast so far. Kudos to him, and McBeanes for knowing this dudes head coming into this season. I thought he was checked out honestly. Yea I wanted to make it very subtle. What can I say I'm a baker's daughter I have a 'rye' sense of humor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 11:08 AM, Eastport bills said: This guy ame back with a giant chip on his shoulder. Playing fast and being disruptive. A big difference maker. He gives us pressure up the middle with Oliver. This could impact the KC game. I'm sorry, what evidence is there that a "chip" is the motivation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: I'm sorry, what evidence is there that a "chip" is the motivation? No evidence, but just an opinion. Guy missed a season and was not expected to be a big contributor. He comes in lighter, quicker and nastier. To me he is under the radar and has something to prove in the twilight of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Always been an excellent player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 IMHO it's less a chip than a case of "you never know what you've got until it's gone" and concern that being obese and unfit might kill him if he gets COVID. But whatever the case, great to see he's making the impact many of us expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 After last year with him not being in the line up we are probably just noticing his production by being in there again when they drafted Ed O. his rookie numbers were pretty good because Star did a lot of the dirty work enabling some freedom for others to get after the QB. It's always been that Star presence wouldn't jump off the screen when it comes to stats but it sure has shown up in other ways that him being a first round talent and just being in there proves McD's reason for bringing him in and knowing how he would effect the D . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Doc said: IMHO it's less a chip than a case of "you never know what you've got until it's gone" and concern that being obese and unfit might kill him if he gets COVID. But whatever the case, great to see he's making the impact many of us expected. Maybe he was actually advised to lose weight and then with bills training staffs devised plan to get into this slimmed down shape that's healthier to maintain. Opting out may have just been great timing on reshaping his physique. Looks like he's more apt to be healthier in present form and hasn't lost his strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I also wonder with the upgrades we've done across the DL this year if that's had an impact to Star's game. Could be that lackluster DT and DE play, or lack of depth was an issue. DL is a lot like OL, if there's a couple of weaker links in the chain it ripples across the performance of the entire line. Will say he looks great this year and is playing excellent. Credit to him for keeping in shape during his opt out and coming back rejuvenated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrellsFinest Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) With the 32nd pick of the 2022 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select...Jordan Davis, DT Georgia Edited October 15, 2021 by FarrellsFinest 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) Simply put, Star is a big reason our defense has turned the corner this year. He is doing the dirty work and fans can finally appreciate what he brings to the team when he is in the line-up especially after witnessing the soft middle of our defense last season. Been watching him more closely this year and kind of in awe of what he has done against the doubles with his quickness, positioning, anchoring, and leverage. He has been a disruptive force. Edited October 15, 2021 by WideNine 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, FarrellsFinest said: With the 32nd pick of the 2022 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select...Jordan Davis, DT Georgia Jordan Davis on this DL next year would be absolutely filthy. We’ll likely move off Butler, maybe Harry as well, so drafting Davis to rotate in would make a-lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, SCBills said: Jordan Davis on this DL next year would be absolutely filthy. We’ll likely move off Butler, maybe Harry as well, so drafting Davis to rotate in would make a-lot of sense. yeah Davis not gonna be around at 32 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/15/2021 at 6:12 PM, dorquemada said: yeah Davis not gonna be around at 32 who says McBeanes sits at 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) How about just extending star out for a couple of years and fixing our offense of line Edited October 17, 2021 by John from Riverside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: How about just extending star out for a couple of years and fixing our offense of line That’s what the 2nd rd is for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) On 10/15/2021 at 2:47 PM, FarrellsFinest said: With the 32nd pick of the 2022 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select...Jordan Davis, DT Georgia Big Star fan here, but yes to this. Restructuring Star for another year or two. On 10/15/2021 at 2:48 PM, WideNine said: Simply put, Star is a big reason our defense has turned the corner this year. He is doing the dirty work and fans can finally appreciate what he brings to the team when he is in the line-up especially after witnessing the soft middle of our defense last season. Been watching him more closely this year and kind of in awe of what he has done against the doubles with his quickness, positioning, anchoring, and leverage. He has been a disruptive force. Welcome to the party, pal! Edited October 17, 2021 by Dopey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Honestly I'm glad to eat a little crow, but I do admit Star has made more of a difference with the D than I thought. I didn;t think him coming back would be much different. Glad to see I was wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) I love the one play where he grabs and bear hugs TWO offensive lineman which allowed our LBs to run up in the hole and stuff the RB. Edited October 17, 2021 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 10:21 PM, DBilz2500 said: Is it just me or does Star seem to be more active, more noticeable and even a little faster this season? I know his numbers don’t jump off the page, they never will, but I just feel like he’s making more of an impact compared to past seasons. Thoughts? Absence makes the heart grow fonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I guess he dropped down to his collegiate playing weight. Funny how many thought he was a waste until we didn't have him last year. I often see him holding up two linemen while out ends and LBs run free. Shows how important a big D tackle like Star is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: To all the Star haters.... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Rework his contact.....keep him We need to use those high picks on offensive linemen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 hours ago, foreboding said: I guess he dropped down to his collegiate playing weight. Funny how many thought he was a waste until we didn't have him last year. I often see him holding up two linemen while out ends and LBs run free. Shows how important a big D tackle like Star is. Yeah that "I always play at around 310" was a crock of sh*t. As Lofton said during the game, Lotulelei acknowledged that he used to play at 340. He's gotten in shape and lost a lot of weight and become a much more of a disruptive player. Instead of being an ineffective pseudo nose tackle he's become a very productive part of the rotation of players all doing the same kind of work. The switch away from bloated blocks of sh*t at 1 tech started last year but Star is making it work better with his new found ability to rush the passer. Combined with surprisingly great run defense from Rousseau they are a much different front this year despite otherwise bringing back the same guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah that "I always play at around 310" was a crock of sh*t. As Lofton said during the game, Lotulelei acknowledged that he used to play at 340. He's gotten in shape and lost a lot of weight and become a much more of a disruptive player. Instead of being an ineffective pseudo nose tackle he's become a very productive part of the rotation of players all doing the same kind of work. The switch away from bloated blocks of sh*t at 1 tech started last year but Star is making it work better with his new found ability to rush the passer. Combined with surprisingly great run defense from Rousseau they are a much different front this year despite otherwise bringing back the same guys. And Edmunds, who has been pinning his ears back and laying the wood for a month straight now - the lightbulb may have come on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: And Edmunds, who has been pinning his ears back and laying the wood for a month straight now - the lightbulb may have come on. Agreed and once again the Erik Turner film review videos confirm that new urgency he's got. Love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, 34-78-83 said: Agreed and once again the Erik Turner film review videos confirm that new urgency he's got. Love it. Will have to check those out - just based on my own untrained eyes, he’s playing much faster and with more violence and it seems to be self-fulfilling in terms of the confidence he’s gaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Will have to check those out - just based on my own untrained eyes, he’s playing much faster and with more violence and it seems to be self-fulfilling in terms of the confidence he’s gaining. here's a short preview covering both Tremaine and Milano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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