LeGOATski Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Agreed…. And the dude adds absolutely nothing to the pass rush. He’s a turd. I think he's being what they wanted him to be: a pass disruptor, clean-up run defender, good communicator, and defensive captain. He doesn't need big DTs in front of him. He needs a pass rush. They'll help him out with a run blitz every once in a while. If he plays at the line, he can be adequate (remember the goal line stuff against the 49ers?) He's not above-and-beyond what they wanted, which I'm sure is partly why they're waiting on a contract extension, but he’s at least what they expected. This year will be huge. 6 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Idk man, can't he just throw some duct tape on it and get his ass out there? The 3 Ds... Rub some dirt on it. Wrap it up in duct tape. Take these drugs. Guaranteed to get you back on the field in no time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I was worried it would be too much of a stretch to make this news about how Edmunds sucks but I shouldn’t have been 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Pass rushing in college is alot different than pass rushing in the NFL He is definitely quick but his actual rush moves leaves alot to be desired and he's a 2 down player rn in the NFL He can refine alot of technique which is huge for a big man Even granting that he's only a 2-down player, which remains to be seen: a disruptive, penetrating 2-down player who needs a bit of coaching to refine technique? May be just me, but sign me up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I've been told that Star sucks on here so I can't see how this matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 3 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said: welcome to Star's replacement https://georgiadogs.com/sports/football/roster/jordan-davis/5423 Hopefully he lasts to the 32nd pick! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Would we save anything off the Cap if we cut him right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I was worried it would be too much of a stretch to make this news about how Edmunds sucks but I shouldn’t have been But can we push it towards how terrible Knox is? And then to Ertz? Now that would be a feat. Guys....if we can't stop the run because Star sucks and he's a wimp, and Edmunds sucks, then the Steelers are gonna run all over us get a big lead, so we'll need to pass more and we'll obviously have to rely on Knox at that point, who sucks and can't catch a cold, so Beane's a wizard but he's failed to address tight end and we need Ertz and why isn't a deal done yet??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Would we save anything off the Cap if we cut him right now? No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, Patience said: Even granting that he's only a 2-down player, which remains to be seen: a disruptive, penetrating 2-down player who needs a bit of coaching to refine technique? May be just me, but sign me up. I don't think he's a bad prospect by any means If he could refine his technique a bit, and get his conditioning up he can be a force Learn some speed to power moves and that can take his game next level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: I don't think he's a bad prospect by any means If he could refine his technique a bit, and get his conditioning up he can be a force Learn some speed to power moves and that can take his game next level Sign me up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Star Injured his calf running towards the buffet line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: Star Injured his calf running towards the buffet line. Wanted to make sure Kelvin Benjamin wasn't hogging it all? I keep laughing at how much a lot of TBD is counting on Star to make a lot of other highly drafted defensive players better..... Hoping for good things from Phillips/ Zimmer/Butler.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Could be wrong but I don’t think they want him to make little to no impact plays game in and game out and allow QBs to have a 100+ passer rating against him…. Either way, this threads about Star being out Sunday. Won’t make one iota of a difference in the game. Oh good, glad to see you're back on track 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: That still doesn't mean reaching for players is a good idea This kid's going to be available after the first round So if we trade up and take him in the first round its technically not a good idea.. because you're going to be able to get him after I was talking to somebody who said they would give up the house for somebody like this... You won't have to give up the house I don't think Beane would overpay for a player he feels fits what we need. With the scouting staff he put together I think they do a fantastic job of getting the right players that fit in and at the right costs in terms of draft capital. Yes, there have been some incorrect picks but no gm will hit on every pick. Zay Jones comes to mind. Seems Beane learns from past mistakes and miscalculations. All I'm saying is if a draftee is deemed to be exactly what the team needs and everything screams to him that a player needs to be a Buffalo Bill then he has that luxury as the team is pretty solidly built all around IMHO. In the 90's I never was upset at the lack of early picks. Sure there was talent I wish we could have drafted but some wouldn't have had a way to win a spot on those teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 5 hours ago, TheProcess said: Very annoying. But, to keep things in perspective, didn’t have him all last year and went 13-3. Would love to have him, but it is what it is. Having him or not was never going to decide this game. You're probably right but we definitely won't know until we see the Dline hold up vs Najee. He's 6'2, 230 and Ben runs a nice play action which will keep us guessing on pass vs run. Getting a big lead will help keep them passing in the 2nd half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Star doesn't want to play football. God knows how many games he will play this year before being cut next year and never playing again. As soon as he got paid, the guy was good to never play another snap. He got what he wanted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: You're probably right but we definitely won't know until we see the Dline hold up vs Najee. He's 6'2, 230 and Ben runs a nice play action which will keep us guessing on pass vs run. Getting a big lead will help keep them passing in the 2nd half. Ben doesn't like running play action, in fact they are one of the lowest percentage play action teams in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Just now, Bruffalo said: Ben doesn't like running play action, in fact they are one of the lowest percentage play action teams in the league. You can't run play action when your offensive line is garbage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Da inzdagaydoor'. That too! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: There you are, our resident weather vane pointing in the exact wrong direction at all times. Star’s opt out last year froze his salary and limited their flexibility. He sat out and didn’t even get vaccinated! Now he’s back but has a soft tissue boo boo and is once again clogging up space - under the salary cap, not on the field. On a per-dollar basis no one has been worse for the Bills than Star over the past three years. No one. I agree, but to be fair, he did make a home workout video. Trending in the right direction? Well, we still have our offensive machine in place, and I am hoping Horrible Harry's knees hold up with the strain of the extra pounds he put on to better anchor the middle. Go Bills! Edited September 10, 2021 by WideNine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Process said: McBeane is definitely not without flaws. Relying on Star as a solution to a major hole we had at DT was a very poor decision, IMO. DT and CB depth was a major issue last season, it's really hard to be understand why they did nothing to address it. Resources (cap space) are finite, draft picks are finite, and they have to make decisions as to what to address and where to take risks. Unlike fans who can critique each position on an individual basis, they need to manage the whole. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Weatherman said: Large dead cap and cap savings was negligible otherwise he would 100% have been released or had a reduced salary. He renegotiated pre-pandemic. then opted out and kicked the can down the road. Next year the dead cap is about 5 with about 4 in space freed up by dumping him. I think they can find a comparable replacement or upgrade with the cap savings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Just now, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Resources (cap space) are finite, draft picks are finite, and they have to make decisions as to what to address and where to take risks. Unlike fans who can critique each position on an individual basis, they need to manage the whole. I am not blaming Beane for not filling the NT hole this offseason - he addressed an aging DE situation and plugged the holes he could while making the logical gamble that Star would adequately fulfill the remainder of his contract - which he may still do. Star is going to take some heat for skipping a season because of Covid concerns, yet not getting vaccinated, showing up to camp and promptly ending up on the injury report missing the first game. Other guys on defense are earning those checks - even Edmunds whom we would all like to see pull his game together with getting off blocks, the gap fits, and tackling, shows up and has played through some painful nagging injuries that took time to heal - so I critique his game or the scheme and how he is used but I never question his heart. If anything with OBD, I do think there was a trend to overpay for some ex-Panthers, but who can question that the overall job with the franchise has been solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Wasn't crazy about the signing when it went down. Especially knowing it was a done deal before FA even started. 10mil per for a player of his caliber was ridiculous. It had that Carolina stench all over it. He's not bad, he's just not 10 mil per year good. What's worse is when the team needs him most he's never there to answer the call, but make no mistake he's there to cash his game check. He's just been money wasted IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, WideNine said: I am not blaming Beane for not filling the NT hole this offseason - he addressed an aging DE situation and plugged the holes he could while making the logical gamble that Star would adequately fulfill the remainder of his contract - which he may still do. Star is going to take some heat for skipping a season because of Covid concerns, yet not getting vaccinated, showing up to camp and promptly ending up on the injury report missing the first game. Other guys on defense are earning those checks - even Edmunds whom we would all like to see pull his game together with getting off blocks, the gap fits, and tackling, shows up and has played through some painful nagging injuries that took time to heal - so I critique his game or the scheme and how he is used but I never question his heart. If anything with OBD, I do think there was a trend to overpay for some ex-Panthers, but who can question that the overall job with the franchise has been solid. You can agree that overall the job Beane has done has been solid AND acknowledge thee very terrible signing of Star Louteleili 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 For all the Vida Vea stuff, the guy was picked 12th overall in the 1st. We don’t have nor have we had that capital. He’s a great player, but it’s like we should have Aaron Donald, yeah and I’d like to be 6’3 tall dark and handsome. Not in the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: Not in the cards. Not with that attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 You mean pragmatism that we will pick at the end of the 1st each year because I believe in our team. Yes that positive attitude. A guy like Vea doesnt drop to 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 We beat them last year, we beat them the year before, so I think we will beat them again. Josh is just too good and Star is just too insignificant. The thing is with Star, is he is our one true-blue one-tech. Vernon prefer three, Harrison is always battling injuries with his move to one-tech, Ed and The Zimmerman are three-techs. The thing we're going to miss is the new look Defense and now we cannot so I'm bummed. Perhaps Harry is healthy enough to start at one-tech, he wasn't last year. If Harry can handle one-tech, Ed can stay at three-tech perhaps. The big news I think for Bills fans is that one DT was going to be inactive, and that one DT was probably the very popular Justin Zimmer. So Bills fans, rejoice, The Zimmerman Approacheth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Hopefully he’s only out for this game. But IMO, Bills need to address this position in the off-season. Harry isn’t it and Zimmerman is a complimentary back up. Certainly not getting the cart ahead of the horse but DT, TE, secondary help and a future center to replace Morse will be needs going into the next offseason. Hopefully those additions make us even stronger as defending SB champions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: For all the Vida Vea stuff, the guy was picked 12th overall in the 1st. We don’t have nor have we had that capital. He’s a great player, but it’s like we should have Aaron Donald, yeah and I’d like to be 6’3 tall dark and handsome. Not in the cards. The Stealers got Watt at the end of the first and now we have Groot, you can get anything at the end of the round if you really work to find the answer, especially if you are willing to go BPA.... Not saying Groot is a pro bowler or anything like that but it really feels like the abills won the lottery getting Groot at our #1 need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: How about a committee of Beane, McDermott, and the Pegulas approach him to cut his fat, shirking ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Fans liking the the Stealers +6.5 mostly watched the Bills when playing the chefs. The chefs are until proven otherwise, our kryptonite. The Stealers are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Furthermore, if they watched Buffalo, it was the playoffs games, after Josh Allen's receivers were all beat-up. Sunday we are going to see Josh with four healthy starting receivers, he never really had that last year... Diggs, Sanders, Beasley and Davis are going to be devastating with Josh Allen, watch.... I'm watching GMF now and I gotta tell you, I'm a little surprised there isn't more talk about the huge game coming up in KC at home vs. the new look browns...... I know, I have that game set to record.... Im looking to see if the chefs bleed (again) But should they.... It's officially time to worry about the browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrellsFinest Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Cut the thief! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: The Stealers got Watt at the end of the first and now we have Groot, you can get anything at the end of the round if you really work to find the answer, especially if you are willing to go BPA.... Not saying Groot is a pro bowler or anything like that but it really feels like the abills won the lottery getting Groot at our #1 need. I’d love it if we picked up a one tech DT at 30, but they usually don’t drop. Then again to you’re point, Milano, and Diggs we’re 5th round picks. My point is simply it’s not Madden, and just more skill and luck when you get a star at the end of the round. I love what I think GROOT will be, but it hasn’t happened yet. I’m trying to temper my enthusiasm until it happens. We may have lucked into him given he didn’t play the year before, and really only had one top college year. That’s not normal. Please don’t take I don’t want a Vea. I’d love to, but not normal when you’re picking at the end of the draft as I believe our team is that good we will pick towards the end of the draft each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Bangarang said: Meh Calf injury What, he didn't eat enough of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 So Star opted out last year in fear of Covid. Now he is back, unvaccinated and not practicing. Forget the vaccinated issue for now. Is this guy a waste of a roster spot.He needs to be available or go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 McDermott has to find those photos Star has so we can cut his arse already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I feel like I could repeat this as well if Edmunds has a bad game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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