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52 minutes ago, RunJoshRun said:

Something tells me Bills Fans feel the TEAM is better than they really are.  We couldn't run the ball effectively most of last season and what has changed for 2021?  Teams have had a year to figure out Allen's weaknesses!  Our defense wasn't  great - scary at times - and 2 rookie pass rushers may not make it much different?  

The OL has had a training camp together. Feliciano is playing lighter and that is good as you could see once he went in a direction he was done. Maybe not so much now. On top of that Ford is playing RG and that's the way we are going to run. Look for Our center, Morse to look better this year playing in between two better guards. The more you do anything with a group of guys the better you get. They'll be better this year. On top of that, Daboll's #1 priority by far last season was developing our QB and developing a passing offense for said QB. That takes an incredible amount of time to do that. The run game (coordination) fell by the way-side. We worked on it this summer and Billieve me it will be a lot better. Singletary and Moss are good backs that are hungry. They're going to prove a lot to fans this year, watch. Imho, Singletary is the better one, often reminding me of Thurman Thomas the way he runs. He is not good at avoiding hits like Thomas was at the end of plays (so he can keep playing and not get hurt) but he is very quick and extremely elusive nearly always making the first tackler miss. He is slow but has an extremely quick burst, shakes and shimmies, can't be armed tackled, he's good.

 

I think our defense usually looks pretty good. They looked pretty good vs. the colts and ravens last winter in the playoffs.

Its not a great defense, nor will it be unless Tremaine (the guy the defense runs through) is great. However, Tremaine is good and so is our defense. Maybe he'll be better this year? Maybe the age thing is real for him? If he does get better, so does the whole defense. The front four will definitely be better this year with all that depth. We lack a stud DT though...maybe next year? Maybe Ed somehow breaks out? I thought it ducked that Harry hurt his knee. He was playing well in preseason and training camp.

 

I think we're the third best team in league behind KC and Tampa. I think we're there solidly and all alone. We have a true MVP candidate in Allen and we surrounded him with very good football players. We have no real weaknesses, that is, we're not bad at anything. 

I sure would like Ertz, another starting level corner and Phillips to have a brand new knee.

Ertz to have another guy to run a lot of offense thru. I'm worried we are going to run out of weapons again exactly like we did last year. Ertz can help us there a lot.

We sure are thin at CB. At least we know who our dimeback is, See: Pittsburgh.

We need guys that will shutdown the run like manly men. Not sure we have enough. Harry would help here, imho...It's a lowdown, dirty shame, but that's life for you.

 

So.... That's why we're #3.

- Great player at most important position by far.

- No big holes anywhere (though I wish Harry was healthy. Maybe we can luck out in the waiver wire. Sometimes great run stoppers become available.)

- We're better than last year. See: held team together even the coaches which is a huge thing. Signed Sanders which is also huge. Had a great draft apparently. Very hard to do from pick 30 but all signs point to yes.

 

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30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Why haven't they practiced or played?  Are they holding out of TC?

TJ Watt is holding out for a new contract, yes. Sadly, Stephon Tuitt's younger brother was killed in a hit and run accident about a month ago so he has chosen to not participate in practices but he is there for meetings and doing conditioning on the side.

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3 hours ago, QBorBust2018 said:

What do you think the chances are the Steelers upset the Bills. 
 

Bills currently -7. Live in Steelers country and it’s the most important game on the schedule to me personally. 
 

Please share opinions 

 

Week 1 games are notoriously hard to predict and often times are pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things regarding how teams will fare during the season.  Chances are probably higher than normal, but I still don't think they are great.

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

When he said "temperature check" I thought immediately of possible Covid symptoms and who we might lose to Covid protocols 😝

Hey, we can’t talk about that.  Where are the mods when you need them?  😇👏👏👏👏

 

Just kidding bud. I’ll wait for the fourth or fifth thread later to comment in two weeks.  Needless to say, but most of you know my opinion about what will happen.

 

Go Bills.

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The Bills are a Super Bowl contender playing in front of a full house of fans. The Stillers are a playoff wannabe with a past-his-prime QB and shaky OL.

 

We won’t be sweating this game after halftime. 

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6 hours ago, QBorBust2018 said:

What do you think the chances are the Steelers upset the Bills. 
 

Bills currently -7. Live in Steelers country and it’s the most important game on the schedule to me personally. 
 

Please share opinions 

Bills are better at nearly every position and the Bills will have fans for this game…Steelers oline is replacing three starters and Ben is now 38…The Dline gets to Ben this one has a chance to be over by half time…if there’s no pass rush then the Steelers have a punchers chance 

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8 hours ago, QBorBust2018 said:

What do you think the chances are the Steelers upset the Bills. 
 

Bills currently -7. Live in Steelers country and it’s the most important game on the schedule to me personally. 
 

Please share opinions 

So confident already looking ahead to week two.

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9 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I started hearing this pretty recently too and chalked it up another addition to the ever growing list of consultant-y buzzwords. 

Boots on the ground

pivot

drill down

leverage

temperature check

... blah blah blah...

 

That’s a lot to unpack

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11 hours ago, QBorBust2018 said:

What do you think the chances are the Steelers upset the Bills. 
 

Bills currently -7. Live in Steelers country and it’s the most important game on the schedule to me personally. 
 

Please share opinions 

Should be a fun game to watch! Strength v Strength.  I’d say 7 is a good number with that Steelers D. Chances of an upset? 25%

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2 hours ago, Brennan Huff said:


I 100% opened this thread because I wanted to see what the long term weather prediction was. Shame on me I guess for thinking that…

For that you have to go to the new stadium thread in which you’ll read dozens of posts about how it’ll be sub freezing with fifty mile per hour winds! 

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10 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

What kind of thermometer we talking? 😯 

And are we taking the temperature orally, rectally or with one of those forehead scanners?  Makes a big difference in my opinion, but any way you do it I'm predicting the Bills in a solid win before a rocking home crowd.  Steelers' O-line will have at least 3 false start penalties because of the noise!

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18 minutes ago, CuseBill said:

And are we taking the temperature orally, rectally or with one of those forehead scanners?  Makes a big difference in my opinion, but any way you do it I'm predicting the Bills in a solid win before a rocking home crowd.  Steelers' O-line will have at least 3 false start penalties because of the noise!

 

Speaking of the crowd I hope we don't see to many terrible towels among the 72,000. No matter where the game is played the Steelers fans represent in strong numbers. I just hope with expectations sky high and the fans back in the stadium for the first time since 2019 that Bills fans can minimize the amount of Steelers fans in the stadium.

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I think the stadium won't be full, no matter what they announce I doubt 72,000 are there,  About 10,000 to 15,000 attendees (15-20% of the total) of Bills' home games at Ralph Wilson Stadium come from southern Ontario and they won't be able to cross the border for this one.

 

Plus I generally peak at tickets for sale in my section every year for the home opener and this year the number of seats available has been going up week over week, not down, which suggests there isn't a great after market for tickets. 

 

Steelers wise I think the stadium will be absolutely rocking with a fairly full house and a Bills win to start the season.  

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9 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Like some before stated, it's going to be a dog fight. The first games of a season are always crazy & unpredictable. Look how many time the Drought-years Bills came on super strong in the first few games in the season only to sink back into obscurity, mathematically eliminating themselves by November.

 

The Bills are no doubt the superior team and will have a better record when it's all said and done, but don't count out a very hungry Steelers team (who I predict will win the North.) Big Ben won't have the wear & tear and both teams won't have any film on each other from this season.

 

I predict a high scoring game as the defenses having quite caught up. 31-28 Bills w/ Bass kicking the game winner. 

a team that buckled down the stretch last year and is now has 8 new starters is gonna win that division? i'd bet the farm that doesnt happen. in fact i'd be way more surprised with them winning the division than i would be with them missing the playoffs all together.

9 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

Valid points. I think the defense will come together by week 5-6. And Daboll is going to tweak the offensive scheme to make the run game serviceable and don't forget Allen's mandatory 600+ 8-10 TDs on the ground. And I don't think Allen really has any weaknesses other than his fumbling and (if you even call this a weakness) always looking for the big play even if there's a safer option to check down to. I feel he is the hardest QB to scheme against because he's such a good improviser and runner. 

 

his points are lame. come on man. the bills just went 13-3 and are returning the whole squad with what looks to be upgrades to a new at pass rush..... its OKAY to be confident in this team.

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18 minutes ago, driddles said:

I think the stadium won't be full, no matter what they announce I doubt 72,000 are there,  About 10,000 to 15,000 attendees (15-20% of the total) of Bills' home games at Ralph Wilson Stadium come from southern Ontario and they won't be able to cross the border for this one.

 

Plus I generally peak at tickets for sale in my section every year for the home opener and this year the number of seats available has been going up week over week, not down, which suggests there isn't a great after market for tickets. 

 

Steelers wise I think the stadium will be absolutely rocking with a fairly full house and a Bills win to start the season.  

Disagree 100%.  The stadium will be totally full.  It's the first time in two years that almost everyone can come back.  The Bills are a great team and the Steelers are a marquee franchise. Steelers fans travel well, are close by, and Bills fans are excited.  The demand for this game is/will be through the roof.  In my section, tickets are listed on the aftermarket at least double face value.    

 

The biggest thing that sucks is if the Canadian Season Ticket holders have to put their tickets up for sale, that will open the market big time to Pittsburgh fans, and that sucks.  At the same time, however, those tickets will be gobbled up easily on the secondary market.

 

This game will be packed.  There's 0% chance that every seat isn't filled.

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10 hours ago, RunJoshRun said:

Something tells me Bills Fans feel the TEAM is better than they really are.  We couldn't run the ball effectively most of last season and what has changed for 2021?  Teams have had a year to figure out Allen's weaknesses!  Our defense wasn't  great - scary at times - and 2 rookie pass rushers may not make it much different?  

It as if you haven’t been paying attention to the entire off season. 

 

You do realize you are describing a 13-3 regular season record division winning team, that was one game away from the SB right? 
 

Go Bills!!!

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I think this could be tougher than most of us would like to think. Ben is supposed to be healthier and arm is still fresh. That defense is really tough. It's going to be a fight. 

 

I think the tipping point will be the youth and aggressive play of out D-line against thier revamped o-line.  I expect low scoring early season action. 20-16 Bills win with a game sealing INT by Taron.

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14 minutes ago, Lv-Bills said:

The biggest thing that sucks is if the Canadian Season Ticket holders have to put their tickets up for sale, that will open the market big time to Pittsburgh fans, and that sucks.  At the same time, however, those tickets will be gobbled up easily on the secondary market.

There's no if we have to put our seats up for sale, we either don't go or we sell.  My rep said about 10% of STH are Canadian, so that's probably about 6,500 seats that had to go back into the market.  We could either take a lowball offer from the Bills and have them buy back the seats or we put them on the aftermarket.   

 

Just look at Ticketmaster and stub hub every day, seats don't look like they are being gobbled up, they are stagnant.  The Bills are charging $460 for a similar seat they offered me $100 for.  The price of football in Buffalo is going up.  Maybe the sales will pick up once Sept 1st hits.  I'd rather the stadium be full and I hate missing another season opener, I just don't think it will be.  Probably be about 68K actually in the stadium for this one.

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Just now, driddles said:

There's no if we have to put our seats up for sale, we either don't go or we sell.  My rep said about 10% of STH are Canadian, so that's probably about 6,500 seats that had to go back into the market.  We could either take a lowball offer from the Bills and have them buy back the seats or we put them on the aftermarket.   

 

Just look at Ticketmaster and stub hub every day, seats don't look like they are being gobbled up, they are stagnant.  The Bills are charging $460 for a similar seat they offered me $100 for.  The price of football in Buffalo is going up.  Maybe the sales will pick up once Sept 1st hits.  I'd rather the stadium be full and I hate missing another season opener, I just don't think it will be.  Probably be about 68K actually in the stadium for this one.

I guarantee this game will be full.  With how connected the world is nowadays, there are always tickets listed for sale, and in what seems like large-ish numbers online for any game in both college and pro.  This game will be full 100% in person.   It most likely will be the best atmosphere in the NFL week 1.  Nothing better than a rising franchise wanting to send a close by marquee franshise home reeling.  Another great game on paper is obviously Cleveland at KC.  If that game was in Cleveland, it would give our atmosphere a run, but it's in KC.  And while KC is a great NFL city, after you start winning all of time, your crowd gets a bit mellow in the regular season.

 

Our game has all of the ingredients that the NFL is going to want to show, and the stadium will be full.   There's no doubt in my mind whatsoever.

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I'm thinking Emanuel sanders (former Steeler) has his welcome to Buffalo game and the Bills romp.

 

It will be our 2/3 cb/wr against theirs and I like our odds. I also like our DL against their oline especially considering Ben doesn't move much. If we can stop the run their offense is going to be short passing again and they haven't really improved from last year. It'll be close for the first half and then we'll hit the gas in the second.

 

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After having beaten the Steelers the last two times out, I think we're due for a loss here.

In 2019, we faced Duck Hodges. Enough said.

In 2020, the Steelers were completely one-dimensional on offense. The Bills defense didn't have to worry about the running game and they knew it.

This year, with Najee Harris in the fold, I believe the Steelers will be able to run the ball more effectively and it will give their offense enough balance to hang with the Bills. I also think that a healthy week 1 Steelers defense will be harder to throw on than some here would like to admit.

I'm not a negative Nancy, I promise. I still have the Bills winning the division. I just don't think they win the Steelers game. Pittsburgh is a well-coached team with talented players, an imposing defense, a Hall of Fame quarterback, and a great head coach. I think they take this one. 

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14 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

I don't know if you're a betting man, but if so I think there would be a large amount of ppl that would take you up on that lol


Bills fans? Confident their team -- coming off a 13-3 season -- will win a home opener against a team they've beaten twice in two years? I don't buy it! 😋

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2 minutes ago, Logic said:


Bills fans? Confident their team -- coming off a 13-3 season -- will win a home opener against a team they've beaten twice in two years? I don't buy it! 😋

Lol, I know right... Why do you feel Bills lose though? I mean your post said because we are due for a loss. You are a level headed poster so to be sure that can't be the only reason you think Bills lose?

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13 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Lol, I know right... Why do you feel Bills lose though? I mean your post said because we are due for a loss. You are a level headed poster so to be sure that can't be the only reason you think Bills lose?


As I also alluded to in that post, there are two main reasons.

I think the Steelers running game will be better this year with Najee Harris in the fold, making their offense less one-dimensional. We also play them earlier in the year than we have recently, meaning old man Roethlisberger's arm will likely be fresher.

Additionally, if I recall correctly, their defense was missing some key parts the last couple of times we faced them. Assuming their defense is at full strength for this matchup, I think they'll give the Bills offense a harder time than some might think. 

The combination of a more balanced offense, healthier defense, fresher quarterback, and quality coaching on the opposite sideline lead me to believe this is no gimme, and the Steelers might take it. I also think the crowd will be insane at Highmark Stadium and the Bills might be a little too amped up. I need to see the Bills operating at the same level as last year now that they'll be front of a full, frenzied stadium before I believe that it definitely will happen. 

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