Richard Sherman Arrested

[SirAndrew]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I went to a mid major and a football player that transferred from a big program to our school because he wasn't getting playing time.

He asked me to proof read his essay before he turns it in.  It was a 5 page essay.

This dude, good guy, had about a 2nd grade education level.  The entire 5 page, he didn't use one punctuation....not a single one.  It was a 5 page run on sentence.  

He was eligible to play every year lol!  

 

The one thing that's kind of a pattern...many serial killers had very high IQ's!

That’s only because all the others get caught before the serial part is added. 

[Victory Formation]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Wow never would have expected that 

Plus he went to Stanford, so he’s clearly a smart dude. I wonder what happened exactly. 

[blacklabel]

1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said:

 

Bye Bye

My favorite Dicky Sherman moment is two seconds after this when Erin says, “Who’s talking about you, Richard?” and it completely catches him off guard because he’s obviously just trying to boast. And he’s like, “Ah, uh, Crabtree!” 
 

Don’t you ever try me with no sorry receiver like Crabtree! Don’t you ever try me with no bail on mah crimes!

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

That’s only because all the others get caught before the serial part is added. 

 

I'm not sure this is the case.  Serial killers are demented.  

[TheBrownBear]

13 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I went to a mid major and a football player that transferred from a big program to our school because he wasn't getting playing time.

He asked me to proof read his essay before he turns it in.  It was a 5 page essay.

This dude, good guy, had about a 2nd grade education level.  The entire 5 page, he didn't use one punctuation....not a single one.  It was a 5 page run on sentence.  

He was eligible to play every year lol!  

 

The one thing that's kind of a pattern...many serial killers had very high IQ's!

I have no doubt about that.  I knew some athletes that were dumb as rocks.  But then again, I took a freshman writing/literature class and I was horrified by how many of my fellow non-athlete classmates couldn't form a single coherent thought in their writing.  It was shocking.  Multiple 18 year olds who couldn't write as well as my 7 year old son.  

Edited July 14, 2021 by TheBrownBear

[SirAndrew]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I'm not sure this is the case.  Serial killers are demented.  

Yes they clearly are, but most people who are violent enough to kill are going to do it again if they don’t get caught. I’d consider any killer demented. 

Edited July 14, 2021 by SirAndrew

[soflabillsfan1]

21 minutes ago, appoo said:

This really isn't a great path you're on, because it leads to some fairly controversial conclusions around intelligence and race.

 

Intelligence testing itself isn't a settled science, so it's a bit dangerous to draw conclusions.

 

I think it's safer to suggest that there's a correlation between criminality and economic environment. AKA survivalism.

I'm not really scared of controversy.  We dance around so many topics in this world.  Another big lie is the link of crime and poverty.  Total nonsense.

Edited July 14, 2021 by soflabillsfan1

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

 

[SirAndrew]

2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

I have no doubt about that.  I knew some athletes that were dumb as rocks.  But then again, I took a freshman writing/literature and I was horrified by how many of my fellow non-athlete classmates couldn't form a single coherent thought in their writing.  It was shocking.  Multiple 18 year olds who couldn't write as well as my 7 year old son.  

Welcome to college in the modern world. This is why I base genius on accomplishments and actions, rather than what school someone attends. 

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Yes they clearly are, but most people who are violent enough to kill are going to do it again if they don’t get caught. I’d consider any killer demented. 

 

Do you consider gang members/mafia serial killers?  Like the muscle men who take out rival gangs.  These dudes kill by the dozens.

 

I think I was more referencing the really weirdos like Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacey and Ted Bundy....real psychos.  

[Doc Brown]

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I'm not sure this is the case.  Serial killers are demented.  

Interesting.  I always found them generally cordial and upbeat.

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

 

Wow he had quite the night. Crashed his car at 1AM. Walked all the way to the house and tried to break in an hour later. The cops came and sicced a police dog on him to take him down when he resisted arrested. Presumably he also tried to kidnap Mike Tyson's tiger somewhere along the way.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

Interesting.  I always found them generally cordial and upbeat.

 

Hannibal Lecter is so sophisticated!

[Mike in Horseheads]

8 minutes ago, soflabillsfan1 said:

I'm not really scared of controversy.  We dance around so many topics in this world.  Another big like is the link of crime and poverty.  Total nonsense.

Might want to read this....  https://www.arcgis.com/apps/MapJournal/index.html?appid=5508484140a84023a1e2d8b080e14d0a

[MJS]

2 hours ago, Kwai San said:

 

OK - first off - I will admit this will come across racist but the "thug" mentality he exhibits tends to make me believe more than not he has a deficit in his character make up.  I know it sounds racist but the optics to me are hard to shake.  Compound that with the fact that he is in the NFL....pressures abound and what not and it seem like quite a few players make some of the damndest decisions known.

I have never thought he came across as a "thug". I don't know where you are getting that from.

 

He is a polarizing player, for sure, but he has always appeared to be very intelligent and calculated.

 

Seems like he messed up, though.

[appoo]

3 minutes ago, soflabillsfan1 said:

I'm not really scared of controversy.  We dance around so many topics in this world.  Another big like is the link of crime and poverty.  Total nonsense.

I'm not dancing here.  I'm suggesting you're using correlation data incorrectly, and this is a case dependent variables.

 

Children who develop in a poor socioeconomic status, statistically speaking, have much poorer outcomes than children raised in high socioeconomic status.

[SirAndrew]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Do you consider gang members/mafia serial killers?  Like the muscle men who take out rival gangs.  These dudes kill by the dozens.

 

I think I was more referencing the really weirdos like Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacey and Ted Bundy....real psychos.  

That’s a great question, I suppose I would, but I don’t know if that’s technically correct. Personally, I think they are all demented. Society tends to glamorize the gang/mob world, and it creates more sympathy towards those figures. I think we also view it differently, because we don’t see their “victims” as being true victims. We see the victims as having guilt, and don’t have the same sympathy we do for others. Tony Soprano was a demented character, but the show portrayed him as human in a way we could all identify, while others are portrayed as sub human. We’re all human at the end of the day, but evil is evil. 

[TroutDog]

As per usual, knee-jerk reactions rule the day (see Oliver and the beer can between his legs). Do people never learn?

 

I know this much: racism is alive and well as evidenced in this thread. Shameful. 

[starrymessenger]

I’ve been annoyed with Sherman’s antics at times, especially on field post game interviews, but I attribute this to the level players have to psyche themselves up in an ultra competitive environment. He’s no Ali or Berra but he does have some great quotes. My fav? Asking a scowling Tom Brady after a Super Bowl loss “You mad bro?” Classic, lol.

Hope this isn’t too serious.

Edited July 14, 2021 by starrymessenger

[SirAndrew]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

I have never thought he came across as a "thug". I don't know where you are getting that from.

 

He is a polarizing player, for sure, but he has always appeared to be very intelligent and calculated.

 

Seems like he messed up, though.

Please don’t take my question wrongly, I’m just genuinely curious. I see Sherman’s intelligence mentioned a lot. What about him struck you as being intelligent ? I just never saw it. 

Edited July 14, 2021 by SirAndrew

[Rockpile233]

Wow really got after it on a Tuesday night. I’m assuming there was some alcohol involved.

[Royale with Cheese]

5 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

That’s a great question, I suppose I would, but I don’t know if that’s technically correct. Personally, I think they are all demented. Society tends to glamorize the gang/mob world, and it creates more sympathy towards those figures. I think we also view it differently, because we don’t see their “victims” as being true victims. We see the victims as having guilt, and don’t have the same sympathy we do for others. Tony Soprano was a demented character, but the show portrayed him as human in a way we could all identify, while others are portrayed as sub human. We’re all human at the end of the day, but evil is evil. 

 

Michael Corleone was loved.

[MJS]

8 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Please don’t take my question wrongly, I’m just genuinely curious. I see Sherman’s intelligence mentioned a lot. What about him struck you as being intelligent ? I just never saw it. 

The way he conducts himself in interviews, the way he is able to get under the skin of opponents, etc. He represents himself in contract negotiations. He was an excellent student athlete. I'm not saying he is a genius, just that he seems a cut above the general NFL player.

[machine gun kelly]

A bunch of quick knee jerk remarks including mine.  My feelings are just simply let it play out.  Most of us have made an initial comment.  It really could be anything.

 

Why bother speculating anything more just offer thoughts once we really know what most likely went on last night/today.

 

Hes definitely not quiet or reserved, and let’s his feelings and thoughts known, but part of me believe he is more calculating in his comments than some think.  
 

This is self serving as I wanted to admit that point, but glad we didn’t bring him in here.  I do respect his prior skills.  I don’t know if he has anything left though.

[colin]

1 hour ago, appoo said:

This really isn't the place to debate social/educational issues and policy...but I wasn't speaking to test prep.  It's a much more basic, and tangible level. The math and verbal skills that are tested on the SATs, aren't taught at the same level of proficiency across America, and there are also a lot of environmental factors that come into play as well, both in and out of school.

 

Suffice it to say, that when it comes to the SATs, that kids from poor, overcrowded, higher crime area have a lot of barriers infront of them they have to overcome that kids from NOT those kind of areas wouldn't have. Same is proably true of really poor rural distrincts.

 

SAT testing tends to advantage kids in well to do areas and private schools.

 

Basically it's a HORRIBLE way of measuring the intelligence of a student, or determining who is or isn't deserving of college admission.

 

 

it's interesting to me that that you say this sin't the place to debate something, followed by debating it.

 

your assertion makes sense, but the data doesn't support it when we look at the much written about test in public high schools in NYC.  most of the children in these schools are from very poor and overcrowded (mostly in the middle of the pack crime wise, but it's certainly not all a bed or roses) places in the city yet somehow manage to score high enough on an aptitude test to get into these very competitive schools.  a good chunk of them speak english as a second language as well.

 

the point of my original post is that people assume someone (sherman in this case) is smart because he went to stanford (some might argue being a very elite football player might have had something to do with that) it isn't necessarily the case and there are tests that are designed to more accurately measure someone's smarts than a brand on a piece of paper.

 

the NFL uses the wonderlick, surely after years of college and contracting an agent for the purpose of entering the NFL these players are taught the math and verbal skills necessary to score better on the test, particularly since the impact of that one test can mean the difference between a smaller and a larger first contract.

 

 

[RoyBatty is alive]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

He was a high caliber player in 2019, I think some team was going to kick the tires on him. If Josh Norman coming off of a disaster of a season in 2019 got a contract in 2020 I would have found it hard to not see Sherman getting a one year deal.

Was a high caliber player, was.

 

Sure there are 32 teams, someone will roll the dice, after all Tim Tebow and Kelvin Benjamin are each getting a shot.  I dont care what team brings any of the three in, I can tell from what I saw all three are not NFL caliber players at this time.

[SirAndrew]

17 minutes ago, MJS said:

The way he conducts himself in interviews, the way he is able to get under the skin of opponents, etc. He represents himself in contract negotiations. He was an excellent student athlete. I'm not saying he is a genius, just that he seems a cut above the general NFL player.

That’s fair. I was genuinely curious what people see. I agree that he has brains, but who knows if he actually represented himself well in negotiations. Additionally, the self promotional stuff seemed bright, but how much was truly calculated? I never had an issue with Sherman’s on field antics, but find it amusing how many use his Stanford degree to justify it. Sherman has always been a calculated genius who does everything with a purpose. Other NFL players who behave the same are nothing more than idiots to the average fan. If we say he always seemed like an idiot, we’re crossing some invisible line. It’s amazing what a piece of paper can do for you in this country, as far as how people judge you. I’m not directing any of this towards your comments, just a general observation of how Sherman is viewed vs other players. 

Edited July 14, 2021 by SirAndrew

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Spice on spice on spice up in hurrrrr 🥵 

[Doc Brown]

26 minutes ago, MJS said:

The way he conducts himself in interviews, the way he is able to get under the skin of opponents, etc. He represents himself in contract negotiations. He was an excellent student athlete. I'm not saying he is a genius, just that he seems a cut above the general NFL player.

Stanford degree too with a 4.2 GPA.

[Protocal69]

2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

AP classes are weighted higher, so you can actually come close to having a 5.0 GPA on the 4.0 scale.  I think my graduating high school GPA was something like 4.34.

Oh ok cool. I took AP classes but I guess since it wasnt over a 4 I never noticed. Thanks for the explaination

[Johnny Hammersticks]

 

[Southern_Bills]

Sherman is hard to like but I'll be honest, I would have never thought he would be in the headlines for this.

[Jauronimo]

2 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said:

Sherman is hard to like but I'll be honest, I would have never thought he would be in the headlines for this.

I knew he would one day be charged with "domestic violence burglary" because of the way he yelled about Crabtree that one time, the political opinions that he expressed that upset me, and his dreadlocks.  All of those things screamed guy who is likely to be accused of domestic violence burglary.  It was off the charts on the Thugometer.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

 

[H2o]

I find the hit-and-run incident with the abandoned car quite interesting in this whole situation as well. This could end up being a Tyler Perry movie. 

 

Edit: And having to be subdued by a K-9 Officer? Interesting. 

Edited July 14, 2021 by H2o

[Dablitzkrieg]

3 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

He also was his school's salutatorian, was voted most likely to succeed and graduated with a 4.2 GPA.  He's no dummy.

I've always thought the highest GPA was 4.0.  I must be dumb

[Tanoros]

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Can anyone add more insight into "Burglary Domestic Violence"?

 

Does that mean he basically pushed his way into her house to take something? Likely something he felt belongs to him...

I can add a little insight. Before the attempted burglary, Sherman drove into a closed traffic lane (my project). He almost hit the employee who tried to wave him down. He stopped, was escorted out of the work area, and shortly after leaving he hit a concrete barrier damaging his car. 
 

Don’t have any other details. 

[Jauronimo]

7 minutes ago, H2o said:

I find the hit-and-run incident with the abandoned car quite interesting in this whole situation as well. This could end up being a Tyler Perry movie. 

 

Edit: And having to be subdued by a K-9 Officer? Interesting. 

The article didn't say the canine was a police dog.  Kinda misleading.  I'm hearing he slipped on wet grass and was violently humped by the neighbors Pomerians.

[RoyBatty is alive]

2 minutes ago, H2o said:

I find the hit-and-run incident with the abandoned car quite interesting in this whole situation as well. This could end up being a Tyler Perry movie. 

Really not sure how interesting this is.  If that report is true, seems highly likely he was drunk driving, hit a wall, ruined the tires and limped to the nearest parking lot to try and hide.  What he did trying to get in the house I would assume, again trying to hide/escape.

 

So to me, on the face of it, drunk driving, hit and run.  If that we me, I would lose my license and probably do a little jail time.  My bet is this costs him a ton of legal $ and his celeb status, esp in Washington is also going to get him a slap on the hand.  That is my guess.

 

Yes his wife is correct, he didnt hurt anybody, he got luck real lucky, 

[Bangarang]

28 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

This tweet goes out to all the people who don’t understand the definition of burglary or why it was charged as a domestic incident.