IgotBILLStopay Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) Rousseau at the Canes’ Paradise Camp where the current Canes get to hang out and learn from Alumni. Campbell, ofc, has mentored Rousseau throughout the Draft process. Good to see the young one soaking it all in. I always thought Rousseau was a big dude. But Campbell makes him look puny. He is teaching Rousseau a power move - but is Rousseau big and strong enough for that? Anyways - something to look at during the slow news period. Edited June 29, 2021 by IgotBILLStopay 9 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: I always thought Rousseau was a big dude. But Campbell makes him look puny. In terms of defensive linemen he's not a big dude -- he played college ball at around 250-255. This myth seems to be perpetuated by that viral image of him standing next to McD which had a lot to do with forced perspective. The offensive linemen we drafted? Yeah, those are big dudes. Edited June 29, 2021 by QCity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Wow and wow.....them be some big boys!!! Looking forward to seeing what Groot can bring to the table.....hopefully the acclimation curve along with the learning curve is short! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 In my book, 6’6” and 260 is big! 😃 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Groot doesn’t have his man body yet an NFL training regimen will fix that 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Calais Campbell is a massive dude. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Groot doesn’t have his man body yet an NFL training regimen will fix that For a lot of the younger guys its the nutrition aspect as well as the training. You no longer have to worry about classes, school etc. It's football. Work is now - working out, film study, studying, nutrition, and recovery. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, TroutDog said: In my book, 6’6” and 260 is big! 😃 Wait till strength and conditioning coaches (with a lot of help from the kitchen) fill that frame out!!! Hes wide open to put on alot of power on that frame 😁 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Rousseau at the Canes’ Paradise Camp where the current Canes get to hang out and learn from Alumni. Campbell, ofc, has mentored Rousseau throughout the Draft process. Good to see the young one soaking it all in. I always thought Rousseau was a big dude. But Campbell makes him look puny. He is teaching Rousseau a power move - but is Rousseau big and strong enough for that? Anyways - something to look at during the slow news period. Good thing Rousseau is 21 and has plenty of time to fill out. I believe he will be a complete and very good end within 2 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, dneveu said: For a lot of the younger guys its the nutrition aspect as well as the training. You no longer have to worry about classes, school etc. It's football. Work is now - working out, film study, studying, nutrition, and recovery. Yes, the academic strain at Miami must be brutal 1 16 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 To be 21 and that big already, wow. Campbell has added a LOT of weight over the years. Look at him, his rookie season and there’s where Rousseau sits now. https://www.amazon.com/Campbell-autographed-Football-Arizona-Cardinals/dp/B0825CDHQV#immersive-view_1624974905991 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Rousseau at the Canes’ Paradise Camp where the current Canes get to hang out and learn from Alumni. Campbell, ofc, has mentored Rousseau throughout the Draft process. Good to see the young one soaking it all in. I always thought Rousseau was a big dude. But Campbell makes him look puny. He is teaching Rousseau a power move - but is Rousseau big and strong enough for that? Anyways - something to look at during the slow news period. The question really is, how easy will it be for Rousseau to add some muscle mass. He's never going to be the kind of DE that beats an offensive tackle with speed and bend around the edge. I think he has some quickness and the ability to get "slippery" but he's going to need more strength to be effective. I have seen people question whether he can add that muscle mass, but I don't know of any reason why he can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Very interesting! https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2008/2/25/203450/618 Calais Campbell, Miami: Campbell's struggles continue, as he capped a mediocre junior season with a poor combine. He measured just over 6-7 1/2 and 290 pounds, yet completed a measly 16 reps on the bench -- worst of any defensive linemen who participated. Campbell then ran his 40s near the 5.1 mark and looked winded at the end of the practice session. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Yes, the academic strain at Miami must be brutal cathoics vs convicts 40 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Good thing Rousseau is 21 and has plenty of time to fill out. I believe he will be a complete and very good end within 2 years. wait until G Rousseau is coached up into his NFL body this story could end up legendary just like his nickname #GROOT who wants to mess with Groot fcol? lol Edited June 29, 2021 by Muppy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 Campbell was traded for a 2020 fifth rounder. At 2 yr 23 mill in 2020 and 2021, I woulda loved to have Campbell in there instead of Tommy Doyle. And he woulda helped us last year as well (instead of Butler and Jefferson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Rousseau at the Canes’ Paradise Camp where the current Canes get to hang out and learn from Alumni. Campbell, ofc, has mentored Rousseau throughout the Draft process. Good to see the young one soaking it all in. I always thought Rousseau was a big dude. But Campbell makes him look puny. He is teaching Rousseau a power move - but is Rousseau big and strong enough for that? Anyways - something to look at during the slow news period. Well, one is 21 years old and one is 34. Guess which one has more muscle and is bigger and stronger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 35 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: The question really is, how easy will it be for Rousseau to add some muscle mass. He's never going to be the kind of DE that beats an offensive tackle with speed and bend around the edge. I think he has some quickness and the ability to get "slippery" but he's going to need more strength to be effective. I have seen people question whether he can add that muscle mass, but I don't know of any reason why he can't. He absolutely can, he's really raw there too. Only one season having college amenities, and probably not the best diet options. Hes tall and lean. No reason at all he can't fill out like Campbell has!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Not a better guy to mentor than Campbell. Hope Greg learns all he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: He absolutely can, he's really raw there too. Only one season having college amenities, and probably not the best diet options. Hes tall and lean. No reason at all he can't fill out like Campbell has!! I would love to see him have a career like Campbell, hopefully finding it a little earlier. The thing is, I look at him and what I have seen of him on the field, I see JJ Watt. I think he could be an absolute monster working in a hybrid role where you don’t know where he’s coming from. He might not have elite speed, but that length and he will add a lot of strength, coming from the inside, he’s trouble. Now, obviously, that guarantees nothing because we are taking about 2 of the best players we have seen in decades and hoping he gets there, but if he puts in the work, he has the tools. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 4 hours ago, QCity said: In terms of defensive linemen he's not a big dude -- he played college ball at around 250-255. This myth seems to be perpetuated by that viral image of him standing next to McD which had a lot to do with forced perspective. The offensive linemen we drafted? Yeah, those are big dudes. That is correct - at this time. Rousseau just turned 21 in April. I would be surprised if he didn't fill out some over the next few seasons. Still, 6'6" 255 is big by any normal standard. Patience will be necessary with Rousseau who really only played one full season of college ball and none at all last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, warrior9 said: Well, one is 21 years old and one is 34. Guess which one has more muscle and is bigger and stronger? Not even Bruce was 6-8 and 300. Groot will fill into his body just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 hours ago, dneveu said: For a lot of the younger guys its the nutrition aspect as well as the training. You no longer have to worry about classes, school etc. It's football. Work is now - working out, film study, studying, nutrition, and recovery. And IF they are smart once they sign the contract they can afford to pay for professional help and equipment during off season. And off season should not be party, spend all that money, season. Hopefully they take lessons from Deshaun Watson on what NOT to expect from professional help. And not get their feet frostbit like Antonio Brown. Don't be cheap or stupid. A coworker of mine at previous job was who was a PS player who played some snaps on 53 for JEST and a lot of equipment at home. There are places which have hypobaric chambers athletes can pay for or even buy one for home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Can we have Calais Campbell please...?🙂 Dang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Yes, the academic strain at Miami must be brutal There is a misconception that Miami is a lower-level party school. My youngest daughter graduated from high school this year and looked at Miami. The acceptance rate is around 30%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Haslett_Stomp said: There is a misconception that Miami is a lower-level party school. My youngest daughter graduated from high school this year and looked at Miami. The acceptance rate is around 30%. Did your youngest daughter go there on a football scholarship? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Rousseau is going to be good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 11 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Rousseau at the Canes’ Paradise Camp where the current Canes get to hang out and learn from Alumni. Campbell, ofc, has mentored Rousseau throughout the Draft process. Good to see the young one soaking it all in. I always thought Rousseau was a big dude. But Campbell makes him look puny. He is teaching Rousseau a power move - but is Rousseau big and strong enough for that? Anyways - something to look at during the slow news period. Campbell 2" taller and 40 lbs heavier according to Wiki, which would have him playing a bit heavier than his long-ago combine workout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 10 hours ago, QCity said: In terms of defensive linemen he's not a big dude -- he played college ball at around 250-255. This myth seems to be perpetuated by that viral image of him standing next to McD which had a lot to do with forced perspective. The offensive linemen we drafted? Yeah, those are big dudes. Our offensive line should certainly lead the league in rebounding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 9 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Yes, the academic strain at Miami must be brutal LOL...no Football players have the option of an easy academic workload almost everywhere.......but the U generally has a top 50 US rank as far as academic reputation. Very wealthy and relatively exclusive private school that sees itself more like Princeton-south than a football factory. That has been, without question, the primary problem with advancing the football program. They only want to be passively successful in sports.........it would be distasteful to try hard like some "state" school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Haslett_Stomp said: There is a misconception that Miami is a lower-level party school. My youngest daughter graduated from high school this year and looked at Miami. The acceptance rate is around 30%. Well, when you throw in the beach and weather, no wonder! On a serious note, best of luck to your daughter. I hope she finds the perfect fit for her career goals, and has a great experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 20 hours ago, DCofNC said: To be 21 and that big already, wow. Campbell has added a LOT of weight over the years. Look at him, his rookie season and there’s where Rousseau sits now. https://www.amazon.com/Campbell-autographed-Football-Arizona-Cardinals/dp/B0825CDHQV#immersive-view_1624974905991 That’s what I remember of Campbell a decade ago. Groot is going to use his speed and grow into his body. Without PED’d it takes time to put pure muscle on naturally even with natural supplements, proper nutrition and training hard. Most natural guys working incredibly hard can put on may 7-10lbs. of muscle a year. I’m not worried as he’ll employ different skills Throughout his career. I didn’t expect him to do anything more than packages for him. He hasn’t played football in 18 mos. so it’s pretty aggressive to think he’ll start. Basham is more likely to get into the rotation this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 14 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Campbell 2" taller and 40 lbs heavier according to Wiki, which would have him playing a bit heavier than his long-ago combine workout There is a very important point underlying this post. If Rousseau follows the Campbell path to fitness, he too can be a 280-290 lb guy. Beane said two contradictory things while introducing Rousseau a. Rousseau is still growing into his body b. He sees Rousseau at his ideal weight now (260 lb) I interpret this as: Nobody knows how much more growing Rousseau has in him. If he stays 6' 6", then 260 lbs is his ideal weight. If he grows more, he might put on more weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Hopefully Rousseau soaks in everything Campbell says. Ultimate professional. Look at the development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CommonCents Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Leg day everyday until Christmas. Anything he contributes this year is a bonus, I’m hopeful Basham can have an early impact. Edited June 30, 2021 by CommonCents 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 We all know that the best training happens in the aisle at the local Walgreens..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I'd say he's a pretty good one to learn from for sure !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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