Frank Clark arrested for felony

[Thunderstruck]

On 6/21/2021 at 6:40 PM, BruceVilanch said:

You're going to want the mac10 or cold war MP5, Uzi is garbage as a secondary gun.

Use a nail gun- don't even need to pass a background check

 

Also- the Milano got buffed and is worth checking into

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by Thunderstruck

[colin]

12 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Security detail?

 

For…what?

 

for security!

9 hours ago, just1hugheser said:

the chiefs do it more than most teams, and id argue that a lot of that comes from Andy Reid- who he is as far as personality and his experiences with his family have given him more perspective than most so he has more empathy, compassion and sympathy for people 'in the struggle' with addiction, poverty, education, etc. so he is more prone to want to give chances as he knows that although the numbers say most in that situation will continue to struggle and fail the only way to pull someone up from a situation like that is to give opportunities to people.  There  is no cure for addiction/poverty/upbringing but people who have had those struggles and overcome them know that nothing can stop that train but the person themselves but in order for them to do that they have to know that they will not completely be shut out of opportunites because of their past, and in the case where a person is ready to move forward often times the only thing holding them back is that opportunity, no matter how big or small, one person to have hope or belief in them or simply just be willing to give them a shot to move forward and be something more.

 

said another way: he's an enabler who is willing to look the other way in the pursuit of victory.

[aristocrat]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

gotta have the fall guy.  

[thenorthremembers]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

One has to wonder why the 6'3 260 NFL Player needs a "Body Guard."    Seems like the Michigan education may not have done ole Frank much good.

[Captain Hindsight]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Really ***** bodyguard not protecting his client from the law🙄

[DJB]

18 hours ago, somnus00 said:

Should've been arrested last year after the AFC championship game when he raped the Bills o-line... then stole their lunch.

 

I see we found the new ScottLaw burner. 

[Zerovoltz]

1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Really ***** bodyguard not protecting his client from the law🙄

 

1.  The Lawyer is smart...this is an effective defense for this type of situation.

2.  Frank Clark is dumb.  But smart enough and rich enough to lawyer his way out of this.

3.  Refer to my original statement about NFL teams and speicifically my team, having bad dudes on the team.

 

I'm rooting for Clark's lawyer to get Clark out of this situation he stupidly put himself into.  He didn't kill or harm anyone.  I could care less what was in the front seat of his car short of a dead body.  Hope to see him making meaningful contributions to my team, as long as he's on my team.

[LeviF]

59 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

 

1.  The Lawyer is smart...this is an effective defense for this type of situation.

 

 

No, it's not.  California penal code doesn't care who owns the illegal firearm.

[Zerovoltz]

3 hours ago, LeviF said:

 

No, it's not.  California penal code doesn't care who owns the illegal firearm.

I am sure you are right....all I am saying is the Lawyer will make sure this isn't a felony

[LeviF]

20 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

I am sure you are right....all I am saying is the Lawyer will make sure this isn't a felony

 

That would be the first goal if the facts are what they are.

 

I'm not sure how Clark's felony burglary plea ended up wayyyy back when and how California handles that sort of thing.  Obviously a felony conviction ordinarily bars you from possessing a firearm and IIRC that automatically elevates it to felony possession. BUT if it was expunged AND the state in which he was convicted no longer bars him from possessing a firearm then it might be better for him.

 

But then there's the assault weapon part of it 🤷‍♂️ not really sure how that works there tbh.

[Zerovoltz]

26 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

That would be the first goal if the facts are what they are.

 

I'm not sure how Clark's felony burglary plea ended up wayyyy back when and how California handles that sort of thing.  Obviously a felony conviction ordinarily bars you from possessing a firearm and IIRC that automatically elevates it to felony possession. BUT if it was expunged AND the state in which he was convicted no longer bars him from possessing a firearm then it might be better for him.

 

But then there's the assault weapon part of it 🤷‍♂️ not really sure how that works there tbh.

I don't either....but considering that Clark has a bunch of money for a good lawyer, and the fact that he had a weapon on the front seat that is NOT registered to him...again, in a car...(the IN the car part, from my understanding gives a TON of wiggle room) ....I am confident the lawyer can make a rediculous but effective defense out of the facts and circumstances that legally extrapolit mr. Clark from a felony charge.  

 

What Mr. Goodell does is another matter entirely.

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Zerovoltz said:

I don't either....but considering that Clark has a bunch of money for a good lawyer, and the fact that he had a weapon on the front seat that is NOT registered to him...again, in a car...(the IN the car part, from my understanding gives a TON of wiggle room) ....I am confident the lawyer can make a rediculous but effective defense out of the facts and circumstances that legally extrapolit mr. Clark from a felony charge.  

 

What Mr. Goodell does is another matter entirely.

States like California don't care if the gun is registered to you or not I believe

 

It was in his vehicle on the seat while he was driving so he's responsible iirc  

 

 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

States like California don't care if the gun is registered to you or not I believe

 

It was in his vehicle on the seat while he was driving so he's responsible iirc 

 

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/guns-in-vehicles-in-california/

 

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Unloaded and exposed handguns

California generally prohibits carrying an exposed and unloaded handgun in or on a motor vehicle on a public street or public place, if the street or place is in an incorporated city or city and county, or if it is otherwise unlawful to discharge a weapon in that location.5 It is also unlawful for a driver or owner of a motor vehicle to knowingly permit another person to carry into or bring into the vehicle a firearm in violation of this prohibition.6

 

But then there's this:

https://jdlaw.law/blog/how-to-safely-transport-firearms-in-california/

 

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Most criminal charges involving possession of firearms in California are wobblers, which can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony, at the discretion of the prosecutor. Misdemeanor gun possession charges can carry penalties upon conviction of up to one year in county jail and up to $1,000 in fines. Conviction of felony firearm possession charges can mean up to three years in jail and fines of up to $1,000.

 

Sounds as though a plea will be negotiated.

[LeviF]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

States like California don't care if the gun is registered to you or not I believe

 

It was in his vehicle on the seat while he was driving so he's responsible iirc  

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah that's the rub, if the cop could see it looking through your window it's tough to say "golly gee didn't know that was there!"

[Zerovoltz]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

States like California don't care if the gun is registered to you or not I believe

 

It was in his vehicle on the seat while he was driving so he's responsible iirc  

 

 

 

 

I am not a lawyer or judge or a resident of CA.....but I am confident that given the circumstances, a well paid, well connected lawyer can get a favorable outcome....

 

Mr. Clark is a dumbass who happens to be decent at pro football and under an extremely expensive contract for my team.  Given all this.....I am rooting for him to get passed this with the means at his disposal in the hopes he'll be playing on sundays. 

[JoPoy88]

56 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

That would be the first goal if the facts are what they are.

 

I'm not sure how Clark's felony burglary plea ended up wayyyy back when and how California handles that sort of thing.  Obviously a felony conviction ordinarily bars you from possessing a firearm and IIRC that automatically elevates it to felony possession. BUT if it was expunged AND the state in which he was convicted no longer bars him from possessing a firearm then it might be better for him.

 

But then there's the assault weapon part of it 🤷‍♂️ not really sure how that works there tbh.

For the burglary charge you mentioned are you talking about the laptop theft or something else? I believe in the laptop thing he pled down and got probation.

[Alphadawg7]

On 6/21/2021 at 3:40 PM, BruceVilanch said:

You're going to want the mac10 or cold war MP5, Uzi is garbage as a secondary gun.

 

#Facts

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

I don't either....but considering that Clark has a bunch of money for a good lawyer, and the fact that he had a weapon on the front seat that is NOT registered to him...again, in a car...(the IN the car part, from my understanding gives a TON of wiggle room) ....I am confident the lawyer can make a rediculous but effective defense out of the facts and circumstances that legally extrapolit mr. Clark from a felony charge.  

 

What Mr. Goodell does is another matter entirely.

 

 

Like what?

[LeviF]

3 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

For the burglary charge you mentioned are you talking about the laptop theft or something else? I believe in the laptop thing he pled down and got probation.

Yes but wasn’t a great plea, still a felony conviction. Unlike his DV incident in which he got off really easy. Misdemeanor conviction not related to DV. 

[just1hugheser]

On 6/24/2021 at 9:03 AM, colin said:

 

for security!

 

said another way: he's an enabler who is willing to look the other way in the pursuit of victory.

haha absolutely, I'd say he walks the line more than most who are just trying to get value out of commodities that are tainted by opinion or otherwise

[Don Otreply]

On 6/24/2021 at 9:18 AM, thenorthremembers said:

One has to wonder why the 6'3 260 NFL Player needs a "Body Guard."    Seems like the Michigan education may not have done ole Frank much good.

Gotta have your posse or your not a player…, and an affirmative on that unused education…, 

[Don Otreply]

On 6/24/2021 at 7:47 AM, Thunderstruck said:

Use a nail gun- don't even need to pass a background check

 

Also- the Milano got buffed and is worth checking into

 

It’s a good thing that PEDs aren’t used on a regular basis in the NFL…😂

[Mr. WEO]

On 6/25/2021 at 4:18 PM, Don Otreply said:

Gotta have your posse or your not a player…, and an affirmative on that unused education…, 

 

Clark could walk down the street in any city in the country and be unrecognized.

 

It's all gangster cosplay for these guys...

[BigAl2526]

The Chiefs are loaded in so many areas.  It certainly won't hurt the Bills if Clark's actions make him unavailable to the team.  Any little ***** in their armor helps.

[CorkScrewHill]

Officially charged .. if convicted .. up to 3 yrs .. even if not convicted welcome to the commissioners discipline.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/09/formally-charged-with-felony-possession-of-an-assault-weapon-frank-clark-faces-up-to-three-years/

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Officially charged .. if convicted .. up to 3 yrs .. even if not convicted welcome to the commissioners discipline.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/09/formally-charged-with-felony-possession-of-an-assault-weapon-frank-clark-faces-up-to-three-years/

 

And this is from the first gun charge he had from March... for the more recent one, charges are still pending. There is a good chance he won't be playing this year.

Edited July 9, 2021 by HappyDays

[Big Turk]

On 6/21/2021 at 6:40 PM, BruceVilanch said:

You're going to want the mac10 or cold war MP5, Uzi is garbage as a secondary gun.

 

"With the Mac10 on the side of my hip..."

[Prospector]

Don't hate the player, hate the game.... nvm, it's ok to hate this player, lol, he's the worst

[YoloinOhio]

12 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

And this is from the first gun charge he had from March... for the more recent one, charges are still pending. There is a good chance he won't be playing this year.

With special permission to play week 5 

Oh no he pulled the “lil job”

 

 

[Zerovoltz]

He won't do any time.  The lawyers will see to that.

 

Goodell is a different story. 

 

Melvin Ingram and Justin Houston are still sitting out there.  I'd expect if KC gets the inkling Roger is going to bring the hammer...you'll see KC sign one of those 2.

[Royale with Cheese]

13 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

He won't do any time.  The lawyers will see to that.

 

Goodell is a different story. 

 

Melvin Ingram and Justin Houston are still sitting out there.  I'd expect if KC gets the inkling Roger is going to bring the hammer...you'll see KC sign one of those 2.

Its sucks your team has a player that committed a felony.  We’ve never had that type of player associated with any type of felony.  Not even double homicide.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

13 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

He won't do any time.  The lawyers will see to that.

 

Goodell is a different story. 

 

Melvin Ingram and Justin Houston are still sitting out there.  I'd expect if KC gets the inkling Roger is going to bring the hammer...you'll see KC sign one of those 2.

There must be some free agents that have beat up a woman or little kid or committed some acceptable crimes that would fit Reid’s criteria?  

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Its sucks your team has a player that committed a felony.  We’ve never had that type of player associated with any type of felony.  Not even double homicide.

He had the decency and commitment  to wait until after his playing days were over to kill people. 
 

**sarcasm**

[CorkScrewHill]

13 hours ago, Prospector said:

Don't hate the player, hate the game.... nvm, it's ok to hate this player, lol, he's the worst

And then Barkevious Minho enters the competition. I am thinking the NFL will think this is a suspension level offense … just guessing

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/10/barkevious-mingo-posts-bond-in-child-sex-offense-case/

[YoloinOhio]

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

"Don't believe in the Uzi
It just went off in my hand"

[Putin]

On 7/9/2021 at 6:36 PM, HappyDays said:

 

And this is from the first gun charge he had from March... for the more recent one, charges are still pending. There is a good chance he won't be playing this year.

Could not have happened to a better person 

[Zerovoltz]

A lot of fans like to debate that their team has better charachter guys.  It's sports.  It's entertainment....one thing is as good to debate as the next I guess....but I have come to accept that many of these guys in pro sports....and in particular pro football....are not especially smart, or good people.  Fine.  I'd like them all to be fine upstanding pillars of my community.  They aren't.  Most won't ever be.  Some will be problem for the teams PR staff and stain on the community.  Fine.  Win on Sunday.  I'll tolerate some awful humans if they are contributing to wins on Sunday.  I hope they improve, grow up, etc...but win on Sunday and don't kill anyone.  

 

 

[Paul Costa]

That’s the Chiefs mantra. “ Don’t kill anyone and win on Sunday”. Pretty simple rules to follow. Many have come mighty close to the kill part in the Chiefs Organization since AR has taken over. 

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said:

A lot of fans like to debate that their team has better charachter guys.  It's sports.  It's entertainment....one thing is as good to debate as the next I guess....but I have come to accept that many of these guys in pro sports....and in particular pro football....are not especially smart, or good people.  Fine.  I'd like them all to be fine upstanding pillars of my community.  They aren't.  Most won't ever be.  Some will be problem for the teams PR staff and stain on the community.  Fine.  Win on Sunday.  I'll tolerate some awful humans if they are contributing to wins on Sunday.  I hope they improve, grow up, etc...but win on Sunday and don't kill anyone.  

 

 

Totally disagree - most guys are good upstanding guys.  Most guys give time and effort for sick kids and charity of their own free will.  Many come from bad and poor and deadly neighborhoods and find through sports, hardwork, and caring - they can make it out and give back.

 

There are a bunch of guys that are the opposite of that - bad, horrible, terrible people and they should be removed from the league whether or not they help a team win, but there some coaches and teams that don’t care and allow these people to stay in the league.

 

Atlanta had the guts to cut a bad guy - KC has several and don’t care - there is a difference.

 

For me - I want to win, but it is much more important that I like the team at the same time because they are brining the memories and Joy.  We have had some bad people that were good players, but for the most part I am happier with an approach where I can identify and love my team because they are generally good people - not a guy that beats his girlfriend and gets multiple felonies for guns, but wow he got me 5 sacks or caught a TD.

 

An attitude of well I will tolerate it to win is a horrible way to get through life - especially in entertainment. 
 

These guys should be celebrated for the good and positive things they do and after a few failed chances - guys like Clark should be out on their butts and it should be lead by winning teams saying I can get production from good players and people.

Edited July 11, 2021 by Rochesterfan

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

A lot of fans like to debate that their team has better charachter guys.  It's sports.  It's entertainment....one thing is as good to debate as the next I guess....but I have come to accept that many of these guys in pro sports....and in particular pro football....are not especially smart, or good people.  Fine.  I'd like them all to be fine upstanding pillars of my community.  They aren't.  Most won't ever be.  Some will be problem for the teams PR staff and stain on the community.  Fine.  Win on Sunday.  I'll tolerate some awful humans if they are contributing to wins on Sunday.  I hope they improve, grow up, etc...but win on Sunday and don't kill anyone.  

 

 

Football would be much less enjoyable if I had to come to terms with “just don’t kill anyone and win on Sunday.”  I heard Barkevious Mingo just got released, he needs one of those Andy Reid second chance specials!