Thunderstruck Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) On 6/21/2021 at 6:40 PM, BruceVilanch said: You're going to want the mac10 or cold war MP5, Uzi is garbage as a secondary gun. Use a nail gun- don't even need to pass a background check Also- the Milano got buffed and is worth checking into Edited June 24, 2021 by Thunderstruck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 12 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Security detail? For…what? for security! 9 hours ago, just1hugheser said: the chiefs do it more than most teams, and id argue that a lot of that comes from Andy Reid- who he is as far as personality and his experiences with his family have given him more perspective than most so he has more empathy, compassion and sympathy for people 'in the struggle' with addiction, poverty, education, etc. so he is more prone to want to give chances as he knows that although the numbers say most in that situation will continue to struggle and fail the only way to pull someone up from a situation like that is to give opportunities to people. There is no cure for addiction/poverty/upbringing but people who have had those struggles and overcome them know that nothing can stop that train but the person themselves but in order for them to do that they have to know that they will not completely be shut out of opportunites because of their past, and in the case where a person is ready to move forward often times the only thing holding them back is that opportunity, no matter how big or small, one person to have hope or belief in them or simply just be willing to give them a shot to move forward and be something more. said another way: he's an enabler who is willing to look the other way in the pursuit of victory. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: gotta have the fall guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: One has to wonder why the 6'3 260 NFL Player needs a "Body Guard." Seems like the Michigan education may not have done ole Frank much good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Really ***** bodyguard not protecting his client from the law🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 18 hours ago, somnus00 said: Should've been arrested last year after the AFC championship game when he raped the Bills o-line... then stole their lunch. I see we found the new ScottLaw burner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: Really ***** bodyguard not protecting his client from the law🙄 1. The Lawyer is smart...this is an effective defense for this type of situation. 2. Frank Clark is dumb. But smart enough and rich enough to lawyer his way out of this. 3. Refer to my original statement about NFL teams and speicifically my team, having bad dudes on the team. I'm rooting for Clark's lawyer to get Clark out of this situation he stupidly put himself into. He didn't kill or harm anyone. I could care less what was in the front seat of his car short of a dead body. Hope to see him making meaningful contributions to my team, as long as he's on my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 59 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: 1. The Lawyer is smart...this is an effective defense for this type of situation. No, it's not. California penal code doesn't care who owns the illegal firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 3 hours ago, LeviF said: No, it's not. California penal code doesn't care who owns the illegal firearm. I am sure you are right....all I am saying is the Lawyer will make sure this isn't a felony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: I am sure you are right....all I am saying is the Lawyer will make sure this isn't a felony That would be the first goal if the facts are what they are. I'm not sure how Clark's felony burglary plea ended up wayyyy back when and how California handles that sort of thing. Obviously a felony conviction ordinarily bars you from possessing a firearm and IIRC that automatically elevates it to felony possession. BUT if it was expunged AND the state in which he was convicted no longer bars him from possessing a firearm then it might be better for him. But then there's the assault weapon part of it 🤷♂️ not really sure how that works there tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, LeviF said: That would be the first goal if the facts are what they are. I'm not sure how Clark's felony burglary plea ended up wayyyy back when and how California handles that sort of thing. Obviously a felony conviction ordinarily bars you from possessing a firearm and IIRC that automatically elevates it to felony possession. BUT if it was expunged AND the state in which he was convicted no longer bars him from possessing a firearm then it might be better for him. But then there's the assault weapon part of it 🤷♂️ not really sure how that works there tbh. I don't either....but considering that Clark has a bunch of money for a good lawyer, and the fact that he had a weapon on the front seat that is NOT registered to him...again, in a car...(the IN the car part, from my understanding gives a TON of wiggle room) ....I am confident the lawyer can make a rediculous but effective defense out of the facts and circumstances that legally extrapolit mr. Clark from a felony charge. What Mr. Goodell does is another matter entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Zerovoltz said: I don't either....but considering that Clark has a bunch of money for a good lawyer, and the fact that he had a weapon on the front seat that is NOT registered to him...again, in a car...(the IN the car part, from my understanding gives a TON of wiggle room) ....I am confident the lawyer can make a rediculous but effective defense out of the facts and circumstances that legally extrapolit mr. Clark from a felony charge. What Mr. Goodell does is another matter entirely. States like California don't care if the gun is registered to you or not I believe It was in his vehicle on the seat while he was driving so he's responsible iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: States like California don't care if the gun is registered to you or not I believe It was in his vehicle on the seat while he was driving so he's responsible iirc https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/guns-in-vehicles-in-california/ Quote Unloaded and exposed handguns California generally prohibits carrying an exposed and unloaded handgun in or on a motor vehicle on a public street or public place, if the street or place is in an incorporated city or city and county, or if it is otherwise unlawful to discharge a weapon in that location.5 It is also unlawful for a driver or owner of a motor vehicle to knowingly permit another person to carry into or bring into the vehicle a firearm in violation of this prohibition.6 But then there's this: https://jdlaw.law/blog/how-to-safely-transport-firearms-in-california/ Quote Most criminal charges involving possession of firearms in California are wobblers, which can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony, at the discretion of the prosecutor. Misdemeanor gun possession charges can carry penalties upon conviction of up to one year in county jail and up to $1,000 in fines. Conviction of felony firearm possession charges can mean up to three years in jail and fines of up to $1,000. Sounds as though a plea will be negotiated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: States like California don't care if the gun is registered to you or not I believe It was in his vehicle on the seat while he was driving so he's responsible iirc Yeah that's the rub, if the cop could see it looking through your window it's tough to say "golly gee didn't know that was there!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: States like California don't care if the gun is registered to you or not I believe It was in his vehicle on the seat while he was driving so he's responsible iirc I am not a lawyer or judge or a resident of CA.....but I am confident that given the circumstances, a well paid, well connected lawyer can get a favorable outcome.... Mr. Clark is a dumbass who happens to be decent at pro football and under an extremely expensive contract for my team. Given all this.....I am rooting for him to get passed this with the means at his disposal in the hopes he'll be playing on sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 56 minutes ago, LeviF said: That would be the first goal if the facts are what they are. I'm not sure how Clark's felony burglary plea ended up wayyyy back when and how California handles that sort of thing. Obviously a felony conviction ordinarily bars you from possessing a firearm and IIRC that automatically elevates it to felony possession. BUT if it was expunged AND the state in which he was convicted no longer bars him from possessing a firearm then it might be better for him. But then there's the assault weapon part of it 🤷♂️ not really sure how that works there tbh. For the burglary charge you mentioned are you talking about the laptop theft or something else? I believe in the laptop thing he pled down and got probation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 3:40 PM, BruceVilanch said: You're going to want the mac10 or cold war MP5, Uzi is garbage as a secondary gun. #Facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: I don't either....but considering that Clark has a bunch of money for a good lawyer, and the fact that he had a weapon on the front seat that is NOT registered to him...again, in a car...(the IN the car part, from my understanding gives a TON of wiggle room) ....I am confident the lawyer can make a rediculous but effective defense out of the facts and circumstances that legally extrapolit mr. Clark from a felony charge. What Mr. Goodell does is another matter entirely. Like what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 3 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: For the burglary charge you mentioned are you talking about the laptop theft or something else? I believe in the laptop thing he pled down and got probation. Yes but wasn’t a great plea, still a felony conviction. Unlike his DV incident in which he got off really easy. Misdemeanor conviction not related to DV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just1hugheser Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 On 6/24/2021 at 9:03 AM, colin said: for security! said another way: he's an enabler who is willing to look the other way in the pursuit of victory. haha absolutely, I'd say he walks the line more than most who are just trying to get value out of commodities that are tainted by opinion or otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 On 6/24/2021 at 9:18 AM, thenorthremembers said: One has to wonder why the 6'3 260 NFL Player needs a "Body Guard." Seems like the Michigan education may not have done ole Frank much good. Gotta have your posse or your not a player…, and an affirmative on that unused education…, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 On 6/24/2021 at 7:47 AM, Thunderstruck said: Use a nail gun- don't even need to pass a background check Also- the Milano got buffed and is worth checking into It’s a good thing that PEDs aren’t used on a regular basis in the NFL…😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 4:18 PM, Don Otreply said: Gotta have your posse or your not a player…, and an affirmative on that unused education…, Clark could walk down the street in any city in the country and be unrecognized. It's all gangster cosplay for these guys... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 The Chiefs are loaded in so many areas. It certainly won't hurt the Bills if Clark's actions make him unavailable to the team. Any little ***** in their armor helps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Officially charged .. if convicted .. up to 3 yrs .. even if not convicted welcome to the commissioners discipline. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/09/formally-charged-with-felony-possession-of-an-assault-weapon-frank-clark-faces-up-to-three-years/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said: Officially charged .. if convicted .. up to 3 yrs .. even if not convicted welcome to the commissioners discipline. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/09/formally-charged-with-felony-possession-of-an-assault-weapon-frank-clark-faces-up-to-three-years/ And this is from the first gun charge he had from March... for the more recent one, charges are still pending. There is a good chance he won't be playing this year. Edited July 9, 2021 by HappyDays 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 6:40 PM, BruceVilanch said: You're going to want the mac10 or cold war MP5, Uzi is garbage as a secondary gun. "With the Mac10 on the side of my hip..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Don't hate the player, hate the game.... nvm, it's ok to hate this player, lol, he's the worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 12 hours ago, HappyDays said: And this is from the first gun charge he had from March... for the more recent one, charges are still pending. There is a good chance he won't be playing this year. With special permission to play week 5 Oh no he pulled the “lil job” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 He won't do any time. The lawyers will see to that. Goodell is a different story. Melvin Ingram and Justin Houston are still sitting out there. I'd expect if KC gets the inkling Roger is going to bring the hammer...you'll see KC sign one of those 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: He won't do any time. The lawyers will see to that. Goodell is a different story. Melvin Ingram and Justin Houston are still sitting out there. I'd expect if KC gets the inkling Roger is going to bring the hammer...you'll see KC sign one of those 2. Its sucks your team has a player that committed a felony. We’ve never had that type of player associated with any type of felony. Not even double homicide. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: He won't do any time. The lawyers will see to that. Goodell is a different story. Melvin Ingram and Justin Houston are still sitting out there. I'd expect if KC gets the inkling Roger is going to bring the hammer...you'll see KC sign one of those 2. There must be some free agents that have beat up a woman or little kid or committed some acceptable crimes that would fit Reid’s criteria? 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Its sucks your team has a player that committed a felony. We’ve never had that type of player associated with any type of felony. Not even double homicide. He had the decency and commitment to wait until after his playing days were over to kill people. **sarcasm** 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 13 hours ago, Prospector said: Don't hate the player, hate the game.... nvm, it's ok to hate this player, lol, he's the worst And then Barkevious Minho enters the competition. I am thinking the NFL will think this is a suspension level offense … just guessing https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/10/barkevious-mingo-posts-bond-in-child-sex-offense-case/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 "Don't believe in the Uzi It just went off in my hand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 6:36 PM, HappyDays said: And this is from the first gun charge he had from March... for the more recent one, charges are still pending. There is a good chance he won't be playing this year. Could not have happened to a better person 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 A lot of fans like to debate that their team has better charachter guys. It's sports. It's entertainment....one thing is as good to debate as the next I guess....but I have come to accept that many of these guys in pro sports....and in particular pro football....are not especially smart, or good people. Fine. I'd like them all to be fine upstanding pillars of my community. They aren't. Most won't ever be. Some will be problem for the teams PR staff and stain on the community. Fine. Win on Sunday. I'll tolerate some awful humans if they are contributing to wins on Sunday. I hope they improve, grow up, etc...but win on Sunday and don't kill anyone. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 That’s the Chiefs mantra. “ Don’t kill anyone and win on Sunday”. Pretty simple rules to follow. Many have come mighty close to the kill part in the Chiefs Organization since AR has taken over. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said: A lot of fans like to debate that their team has better charachter guys. It's sports. It's entertainment....one thing is as good to debate as the next I guess....but I have come to accept that many of these guys in pro sports....and in particular pro football....are not especially smart, or good people. Fine. I'd like them all to be fine upstanding pillars of my community. They aren't. Most won't ever be. Some will be problem for the teams PR staff and stain on the community. Fine. Win on Sunday. I'll tolerate some awful humans if they are contributing to wins on Sunday. I hope they improve, grow up, etc...but win on Sunday and don't kill anyone. Totally disagree - most guys are good upstanding guys. Most guys give time and effort for sick kids and charity of their own free will. Many come from bad and poor and deadly neighborhoods and find through sports, hardwork, and caring - they can make it out and give back. There are a bunch of guys that are the opposite of that - bad, horrible, terrible people and they should be removed from the league whether or not they help a team win, but there some coaches and teams that don’t care and allow these people to stay in the league. Atlanta had the guts to cut a bad guy - KC has several and don’t care - there is a difference. For me - I want to win, but it is much more important that I like the team at the same time because they are brining the memories and Joy. We have had some bad people that were good players, but for the most part I am happier with an approach where I can identify and love my team because they are generally good people - not a guy that beats his girlfriend and gets multiple felonies for guns, but wow he got me 5 sacks or caught a TD. An attitude of well I will tolerate it to win is a horrible way to get through life - especially in entertainment. These guys should be celebrated for the good and positive things they do and after a few failed chances - guys like Clark should be out on their butts and it should be lead by winning teams saying I can get production from good players and people. Edited July 11, 2021 by Rochesterfan 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: A lot of fans like to debate that their team has better charachter guys. It's sports. It's entertainment....one thing is as good to debate as the next I guess....but I have come to accept that many of these guys in pro sports....and in particular pro football....are not especially smart, or good people. Fine. I'd like them all to be fine upstanding pillars of my community. They aren't. Most won't ever be. Some will be problem for the teams PR staff and stain on the community. Fine. Win on Sunday. I'll tolerate some awful humans if they are contributing to wins on Sunday. I hope they improve, grow up, etc...but win on Sunday and don't kill anyone. Football would be much less enjoyable if I had to come to terms with “just don’t kill anyone and win on Sunday.” I heard Barkevious Mingo just got released, he needs one of those Andy Reid second chance specials! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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