Cole Beasley announces he will not be following Covid protocols, willing to retire

[HappyDays]

4 minutes ago, FireChans said:

What vaccine is FDA approved?

 

All 3 of them. Come on. I'm sick of these semantic games. This is the problem with modern discourse. You can't state a simple fact without someone trying to argue it.

[billsfan89]

21 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Be a baby and not get vaccinated?

 

My God.

 

 

 

How is Cole or any player that doesn't get vaccinated "not protecting" anyone else - the other non vaccinated have clearly made a choice and are living life accepting the risks. 

 

The other players and personnel that would like to have near zero risk of getting it are fully vaccinated.  

 

Why does anyone care at this point and how did the NFL and NFLPA think this was the best course of action.

 

 

I want to hear logic.  Any freaking logic.  

 

 

If you want to be not vaccinated that's your right but then you have to follow the protocols in place. Cole wants it both ways he wants to not be vaccinated (Which he has a right to be) but then he doesn't want to follow the protocols in place which are there to stop a Covid spread amongst the unvaccinated and to possibly protect from variants. These protocols are designed by top doctors and not just random people's Google skills.

 

That's why Cole is being a baby. He has a choice take the vaccine or be subjected to the protocols. He wants to invent his third option based on his own hurt feelings. Cole has three choices, take the vaccine, don't and follow the protocols or retire. He can't force a fourth option because he wants to be lazy and not take the vaccine. 

Edited June 18, 2021 by billsfan89

[Malazan]

2 minutes ago, Beast said:

If he doesn't want to follow the rules he will retire. HIS CHOICE.

 

This entire thing is because he wants them to change all the rules just for him. He didn't retire, he's not retiring. He's throwing a tantrum because the bulk of player represented by the NFLPA wanted different rules and he's literally saying,

 

I'm going to show up and not follow the rules. 

Edited June 18, 2021 by jeremy2020

[Kelly the Dog]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

All 3 of them. Come on. I'm sick of these semantic games. This is the problem with modern discourse. You can't state a simple fact without someone trying to argue it.

Yes you can. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Beast said:

 

If he doesn't want to follow the rules he will retire. HIS CHOICE.

 

I could be wrong, but don't think anyone here would have a problem with Cole Beasley announcing he will retire because he doesn't wish to be vaccinated or to follow the rules.  I would regret it, because I think he is an AWESOME player and tough as nails.

 

It's saying "I want to play, but I won't follow the rules, just fine me" that is the problem.  You can't have a team where everyone gets to decide what rules they will or won't follow.

[HalftimeAdjustment]

5 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

It's not even FDA approved.

 

Unreal how stupid some people in this thread are. 

 

I find it highly unlikely that any meaningful number of people (including Cole Beasley) who do not wish to take the vaccine under the current Emergency Use Authorization will take the vaccine after the FDA grants formal approval.

[Beast]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

What an absolutely childish thing to say.

 

Ok, Cartman.

 

Childish?

 

The man is a multi-millionaire that wants to do his own thing.

 

Not hard to understand.

 

[ColoradoBills]

Did I accidently click onto "Off the Wall"?

 

 

 

 

 

This is about the NFL/NFLPA agreement not about the merits of the vaccine.

 

I think I'll leave this thread now.

 

Go Bills!

[Capco]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

also this.

 

 

Ugh......... 

 

And this is just reflective of a bigger problem at large in this country.  People have lost trust in institutions that are the bedrock of our society.

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We assume it with you, but dont need the visual. Thanks.

You know me too well

[BeastMaster]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

All 3 of them. Come on. I'm sick of these semantic games. This is the problem with modern discourse. You can't state a simple fact without someone trying to argue it.

This is incorrect 

 

[HappyDays]

5 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

It's not even FDA approved.

 

Unreal how stupid some people in this thread are. 

 

Emergency use authorization still classifies as approved. No it has not officially passed the FDA's unusually high bar for pharmaceutical approvals. It is still approved for use by the FDA.

 

Getting away from the semantics, I promise you Beasley has injected more dangerous things than this into his body. It is a weird line to draw in the sand.

[Malazan]

2 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

Yes, I apologize for being much more stupid than you, but if you tell someone "you can say whatever you want, but if you say something we don't like, you will get disciplined" it gives the illusion of choice without actually giving you much choice. In this case it's "get vaccinated or not, your choice, but if you don't, you will be forced to face strict measures that you may consider unreasonable and will be constantly shamed by followers of Science (the religion) for being way dumber than they are."

 

You made most of that up in your own mind. So congrats. 

 

Also, I don't accept your apology. Be smarter and stop dragging the rest of us down. 

[Augie]

6 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

If he doesn't want to follow the rules he will retire. HIS CHOICE.

 

Exactly. Why are you arguing? It’s all about his choice. Get the shot, or not? Go by the protocol, or not? Play or retire? It’s ALL up to him. 

Edited June 18, 2021 by Augie

[BillsDude]

There goes our team culture.

[Dablitzkrieg]

I am vaccinated.  Correct me if I'm wrong please, but doesn't my ability to carry the virus remain unchanged whether I'm vaccinated or not?  Doesnt the vaccination just prevent me from being infected?

[Beast]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I could be wrong, but don't think anyone here would have a problem with Cole Beasley announcing he will retire because he doesn't wish to be vaccinated or to follow the rules.  I would regret it, because I think he is an AWESOME player and tough as nails.

 

It's saying "I want to play, but I won't follow the rules, just fine me" that is the problem.  You can't have a team where everyone gets to decide what rules they will or won't follow.

 

Again, HIS CHOICE.

 

He has reached a summit where he can make his own choices and voice why.

 

 

[Jauronimo]

7 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

Yeah, no vaccine and no to being told what and how he is going to live his life.

 

Good for him.

 

 

I can see the headlines now - "American hero who has received a dozen vaccinations in order to go to school and university refuses to get one more because of principles or something"

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, billsfan89 said:

 

If you want to be not vaccinated that's your right but then you have to follow the protocols in place. Cole wants it both ways he wants to not be vaccinated (Which he has a right to be) but then he doesn't want to follow the protocols in place. That's why Cole is being a baby. He has a choice take the vaccine or be subjected to the protocols. He wants to invent his third option based on his own hurt feelings. Cole has three choices, take the vaccine, don't and follow the protocols or retire. He can't force a fourth option because he wants to be lazy and not take the vaccine. 

 

To be fair to Cole Beasley, he's not deciding to not be vaccinated out of laziness but because he apparently believes in God's Will and that it's preferable to get infected with an illness that has much higher rates of persistent side effects than the vaccine, even for asymptomatic or mildly ill people.

 

That is his right. 

 

Otherwise, agree, he's trying to force a 4th option.  Interesting times.

[billsfan89]

12 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

So, he should just take a vaccine he does not want to take just so he can play football when money is not an issue with him?

 

Yeah, OK.

 

 

 

OR if he doesn't want to take the vaccine he can just follow the protocols in place? He has that choice.

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

At last report , the Bills were one of the teams over 50% and climbing every day. Only a handful of teams are under that 50% mark (Jags, Colts, Chargers)

 

He said STANDS for principals. That's why he doesnt have a problem with this.

 

You mean he STANDS for schools? Principals work in schools.  Does he stand for deans too?

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I could be wrong, but don't think anyone here would have a problem with Cole Beasley announcing he will retire because he doesn't wish to be vaccinated or to follow the rules.  I would regret it, because I think he is an AWESOME player and tough as nails.

 

It's saying "I want to play, but I won't follow the rules, just fine me" that is the problem.  You can't have a team where everyone gets to decide what rules they will or won't follow.

You can when it's Beasley....he gets to do what he wants. It's not like it's a fair rule anyways to force people to do a certain thing with their health, dumb rules are meant to be broken!

[billsfan89]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

To be fair to Cole Beasley, he's not deciding to not be vaccinated out of laziness but because he apparently believes in God's Will and that it's preferable to get infected with an illness that has much higher rates of persistent side effects than the vaccine, even for asymptomatic or mildly ill people.

 

That is his right. 

 

Otherwise, agree, he's trying to force a 4th option.  Interesting times.

 

God Dam Cole is stupid. Has Cole never taken a medicine or had a surgery?

[Reader]

4 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

Childish?

 

The man is a multi-millionaire that wants to do his own thing.

 

Not hard to understand.

 

 

You're leaving out the "At others expense" part

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, Beast said:

 

Again, HIS CHOICE.

 

He has reached a summit where he can make his own choices and voice why.

 

No.  He hasn't.  As others have explained to you - sure, he can retire.  But he doesn't get to decide he doesn't want to wear thigh pads, or a helmet, or line up behind the imaginary line of scrimmage and still play football.

 

And it's highly un-process, un-team-like behavior to insist that he will look at 3 options (vaccinate; don't vaccinate and follow protocols; retire) and choose a 4th.  It's putting McDermott and Beane in a very tough spot.

 

 

[Malazan]

1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

I am vaccinated.  Correct me if I'm wrong please, but doesn't my ability to carry the virus remain unchanged whether I'm vaccinated or not?  Doesnt the vaccination just prevent me from being infected?

 

No, you're incorrect. In studies so far, vaccinated people are less likely to infect others. 

 

According to the CDC, "Early data show that vaccines help keep people with no symptoms from spreading COVID-19."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html#:~:text=Early data show the vaccines,more people get vaccinated.

[Big Blitz]

3 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

I am vaccinated.  Correct me if I'm wrong please, but doesn't my ability to carry the virus remain unchanged whether I'm vaccinated or not?  Doesnt the vaccination just prevent me from being infected?

 

 

The fact you had to ask this is exactly why Beasley won't take it.  

[Dablitzkrieg]

Just now, jeremy2020 said:

 

No, you're incorrect. In studies so far, vaccinated people are less likely to infect others. 

 

According to the CDC, "Early data show that vaccines help keep people with no symptoms from spreading COVID-19."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html#:~:text=Early data show the vaccines,more people get vaccinated.

Thank you.  Didn't have any idea

Just now, Big Blitz said:

 

 

The fact you had to ask this is exactly why Beasley won't take it.  

I didn't know.  That's why I asked.  I follow the yankees and the entire team was vaccinated but 3 players tested positive

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

Right.

 

And Cole Beasley is ready to deal with what is coming at him.

 

Why do you have an issue with his personal choice?

 

Is he forcing people to not take the vacxine or wear masks?

 

People have explained the problem to you several times.  At this point, you're either trolling or you're not reading carefully.  Slow down and process, please.

 

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

The fact you had to ask this is exactly why Beasley won't take it.  

 

It really shouldn't be.  The NFL and the NFLPA are supposed to have provided educational materials answering questions like this for the players.

[Boxcar]

4 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

You made most of that up in your own mind. So congrats. 

 

Also, I don't accept your apology. Be smarter and stop dragging the rest of us down. 

No, I didn't, but good retort. I'm probably too smoothbrained to comprehend it.

 

And don't worry, you're in no danger of my associating with obedient bootlickers.

[DrDawkinstein]

7 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

Childish?

 

The man is a multi-millionaire that wants to do his own thing.

 

Not hard to understand.

 

 

Sure, and he can do it on his own and unemployed. That's all we're saying.

[Johnnycage46]

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

To be fair to Cole Beasley, he's not deciding to not be vaccinated out of laziness but because he apparently believes in God's Will and that it's preferable to get infected with an illness that has much higher rates of persistent side effects than the vaccine, even for asymptomatic or mildly ill people.

 

That is his right. 

 

Otherwise, agree, he's trying to force a 4th option.  Interesting times.

He should stop wearing a helmet too...

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

It really shouldn't be.  The NFL and the NFLPA are supposed to have provided educational materials answering questions like this for the players.

Beasley's God's Will tweet and another questioning the validity 600,000 dead make me think he may be less inclined to believe the experts/authorities and that's really just sad really.

[That's No Moon]

Looking forward to his eventual run for Congress.

[Malazan]

 

2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

He should stop wearing a helmet too...

 

He did. That's how we got here. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

You can when it's Beasley....he gets to do what he wants. It's not like it's a fair rule anyways to force people to do a certain thing with their health, dumb rules are meant to be broken!

 

On that last, I guess we'll find out, but I've never managed a successful team of people where someone had that viewpoint and was allowed to get away with it. 

 

On the former, what is someone forcing Beasley to do with his health?  He doesn't have to get vaccinated.  The problem he's having is that he doesn't want to get vaccinated, AND he doesn't want to follow the rules for not being vaccinated.

 

 

[Trogdor]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

LOOOOOOOL

 

Beasley saying if he infects other people, it's God's Will.

 

 

 

Wonder how Sweeney is taking this. 

[stevewin]

17 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I can’t wait until he gets an Offside penalty and yells that he is not going to be a sheep and follow all the rules just because the NFL told him he had to stand behind the goddamn invisible line!!

The Line Of Scammage

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

The fact you had to ask this is exactly why Beasley won't take it.  

 

Having imperfect answers is not the same thing as having no answers. It was the same discussion we had with the mask mandates. Things were happening too quickly for scientists to know exactly how effective masks would be at preventing the spread of covid. It was and is a quickly evolving public health crisis, they have to use the best information available to them. All the information said that mask mandates prevented the spread of the virus. Ergo statewide mask mandates.

 

Now there is clear information that the vaccines help prevent the spread on an exponentially higher level than anything else we've tried. It's not 100% preventive. Nobody knows the exact percentage and they'll continue studying until we do. But that doesn't mean you throw out the entire measure. We know it works. Public health policies still have to be drafted around what we know.

[YoloinOhio]

Ahhhhh