BeastMode54 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Jerry and Mario are 34. you need to be able to rush the passer if you want to beat the Chiefs. He was probably at the top of their board. I didn't expect it. But I like it. Easier to develop OL and CB IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I could see an Addison cut Didn't they just restructure him though? Not sure if that would matter or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, Devilmann said: I agree it makes zero sense to me as well. I’m hoping when Beane has another presser he can go into some kind of reasoning when we could use another corner or center since Morse might be one concussion away from being a veggie. There are more rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kaenon said: This is who I wanted all draft. Didn't think we'd be able to nab Rousseau, so I wanted to trade out of first ans get Basham at 4x pick and keep our 61. What a draft with both Rousseau and Basham Jr. I am so stoked!! I didn’t look into him too much. What do you like about him? I wanted Rousseau for months then everyone said he was gonna fall suddenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I mean at this point should we just say F it and go DT in the third? Cut Butler and Addison to create some cap space. Fills the needs at CB and TE with Sherman and Ertz? Don't hate it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Boogie Basham is legit. Great pick, and kudos to the FO for sticking to BPA and not reaching somewhere. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I like him as a player but how much does he improve this team... that just means we are gonna have to cut some pretty good ends later. Between Epenesa, Addison, Hughes, Basham, Rousseau and Obada the room looks really crowded. And then add to it that the staff likes Johnson. It might be crowded but it’s not getting it doneIt might be crowded but it’s not getting it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Hall of Fame name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Basham is a solid player and don't really love anyone on the board left more than him with maybe the exception of getting a Center in case Morse get more concussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, BillsFan130 said: Didn't they just restructure him though? Not sure if that would matter or not According to over the cap of hes traded after 6/1 we would save 6.1. Mil and get 2 mil dead cap 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerdMentality Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: A few draftniks had him at 30 early on! Danny Kelly at the Ringer had him #30, ahead of a lot of good names: Quote CARLOS BASHAM JR. EDGE RUSHER WAKE FOREST YEAR RS SENIOR AGE 23 HEIGHT 6'5" WEIGHT 285 SHADES OF: ADRIAN CLAYBORN 2020 STATS Based on seven games played Tackles 28TKLS Tackles For Loss 5.5TFL Sacks 5.0SACKS BIG, BURLY EDGE DEFENDER who’s tenacious against the run and consistently creates disruption against the pass; could play multiple spots on the defensive line. Pass-Rush Talent Pro-Ready Frame Elite Athleticism Relentless Motor SCOUTING REPORT Basham has a large frame, with a powerful lower half, a tapered torso, and long arms. He’s built for battling in the trenches and plays with a physical, tenacious style. “Boogie,” who landed at no. 2 on Bruce Feldman’s Freaks List―both for his rare explosiveness (he jumped 36 inches in the vertical) and power (he benches more than 400 pounds and squats more than 700)―has experience playing out of both two- and three-point stances and brings the versatility to be a factor in any scheme and from multiple spots on the line. Basham brings high-end first-step burst and very good closing speed; he’s not very bendy rushing from the edge, but he gets to the quarterback in the blink of an eye when he’s able to slice through the line on a spin or inside-counter move. He brings a powerful cross chop and an effective swim move. He’s all hustle, going full tilt from every snap, and has powerful hands, forcing four fumbles in the past two seasons. He shows awareness of screens and the quick-passing game, with eight pass deflections in his career. Basham tallied 5.0 sacks in just seven games in 2020, adding 4.5 tackles for a loss. He notched 18 TFL and 11 sacks in 2019, with 11 TFL and 4.5 sacks in 2018. His sack numbers are strong, but his ability to apply consistent pressure is even more impressive. (PFF charted him with 112 quarterback pressures in 25 games in 2018 and 2019, for example.) In the pros, Basham’s lack of bend off the edge may limit his ability to rack up big numbers in the sacks department, but his combination of size, athleticism, and power makes him a good bet to be a productive pocket-disruptor. He also has experience lining up inside, showing the quickness to knife through gaps. Basham loses track of the ballcarrier occasionally, and could improve his hand use against the run, too often defaulting to dropping his shoulder and trying to spin away from blocks. If he doesn’t get a good first step at the snap, his rush stalls out and he looks a bit stiff and sluggish going to his second move. WHY HE COULD RISE Basham brings a prototypical frame and high-end athleticism to the position; he plays with his hair on fire and is a factor against both the run and the pass. WHY HE COULD FALL He’s a bit stiff rushing off the edge. https://nfldraft.theringer.com/?_ga=2.115528582.1679192313.1619759189-1148052034.1610764209 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 One word.. Competition draft pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Governor said: But what if it isn’t KC? But what if it isn’t KC? This same group will be harassing Tua, Wilson and Jones in the division! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantankeous Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, whatdrought said: K. But... why? Going out a long, thin branch and suggesting... bpa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 The Bills didn't want to go into next year STILL needing more edge rush help. They wanted to be ready to roll on opening day 2022 with a quartet of young, ready pass rushers. They recognize that you have to harass Mahomes or you're never beating him. These youngsters get the tutelage under Hughes for a year and rotate in and learn on the job. And as others have said: You want to improve cornerback performance? HARASS THE QUARTERBACK!!! Also, the draft isn't over, and there are some veteran corners still on the market. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Hopefully this was a simple BPA pick. Within reason, if you end up with too many quality NFL players at one position, you try to trade one and if the doesn't work, the lowest performers get cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, Big Turk said: What? Does Beane know we have other needs than Edge rushers? maybe 1st round pick will be converted to TE. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilmann Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tuel Time said: There are more rounds I know but the quality goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, mannc said: Translation, please... Hasn’t there been a lot of fan complaint about our defense of line not getting it done? And our defense of line is old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: According to over the cap of hes traded after 6/1 we would save 6.1. Mil and get 2 mil dead cap Thanks for the response. Will be tough to trade him without eating a lot of salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Bye Jerry? Definitely message sent to our current DEs. Still need DB, G/C, NT, TE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, HerdMentality said: Danny Kelly at the Ringer had him #30, ahead of a lot of good names: https://nfldraft.theringer.com/?_ga=2.115528582.1679192313.1619759189-1148052034.1610764209 I love this pick. Basham is a disruptor and seems to be all over the field! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Beane really is great at what he does. Pass Rushers are always going to be a premium position in FA, and with the contract Josh has coming to him very soon, this is the best way to address it for the immediate future. Also, they are signing and drafting guys with versatility to play any position along D-Line. AJ, Rousseau, Basham, Obada, and Oliver... Why would they draft offense? They went 13-3, punted the least of any team in the league, where as on the other side of the ball the one problem area was consistently generating pressure on the opposing QB. If Beane can put together a top 10 pass rush through the draft while paying Josh, Diggs and other crucial extensions as he managed this offseason, it's just a matter of when, not if they win a Superbowl. Let's get a CB2 also, to help with coverage sacks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 In not understanding wasting all of these early picks (the last few years) on the DLine. All I know is eventually some of them better be good. It wouldn’t aggravate me as much if any of these guys were actually good. Eponessa, Oliver, Harry....these guys have been underwhelming at best. The new nfl is getting the ball out quick. It’s almost impossible to get homes I’d suggest a DE has never been more worthless....I really hope at least one of these guys ends up being good. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, jkeerie said: This same group will be harassing Tua, Wilson and Jones in the division! I’m not complaining. I’m just a little freaked out that everyone is fixated on the Chiefs when it could very well be the Titans, who could totally rag-doll us physically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Governor said: But what if it isn’t KC? But what if it isn’t KC? It doesn't have to be. Very few QBs handle overwhelming pressure well, especially up the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, The Governor said: I guess they think they’re a few pass rushers away….hard to argue. Maybe a Ertz signing and a late RB….and let’s roll!!! Maybe a Late slot-wr WHAT! We’re signing Ertz? It’s done? Boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, Virgil said: This makes absolutely no sense. Even once Addison and Hughes are gone, you still have 3 DE's in two years. I mean, what's the plan here? I'm sorry, but I don't like this at all I don't think you got the memo. Beane is perfect and not to be questioned on TBD. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Do they move him inside? He’s Oliver‘s alternate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, Logic said: The Bills didn't want to go into next year STILL needing more edge rush help. They wanted to be ready to roll on opening day 2022 with a quartet of young, ready pass rushers. They recognize that you have to harass Mahomes or you're never beating him. These youngsters get the tutelage under Hughes for a year and rotate in and learn on the job. And as others have said: You want to improve cornerback performance? HARASS THE QUARTERBACK!!! Also, the draft isn't over, and there are some veteran corners still on the market. Melifonwu might drop to within reach of our 3rd pick. Also, BSJ, and Paul’s Son Also, % chance Richard Sherman is a Bill by Sunday? im coming around on the pick. I have long been an advocate for teams not f-ing around about fixing issue positions. It’s a harder pill to swallow when it’s your team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Possibly. Bills have some edge players that can rush from 3 tech. But maybe they keep 1 less somewhere else. Addison could be cut post June 1st. would've been nice to see more pressure last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Darryl Johnson was just spotted heading to the outlet mall to be first in line at the Samsonite store tomorrow morning. I was rooting for that kid but I think that is likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Vance Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 As a life long Wake Forest fan, I LOVE this pick!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, Rocket94 said: I love this pick. Basham is a disruptor and seems to be all over the field! Like Rousseau, he's a great kid. More polished at this point than Rousseau 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, H2o said: Now if we can get Bobby Brown III in the 3rd-5th range?........ God help the rest of the NFL. Bobby Brown or Shelvin please. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, Bob Vance said: As a life long Wake Forest fan, I LOVE this pick!! Congrats, Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE Bills Fan Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Major influx of Youth and talent at DE with the early double dip. This put Addison Gone. And maybe even a Harrison Phillips on notice with Rousseau moving inside on passing downs. this will allow a youth movement in a position group that needed it. I also think the double dip (after signing in the position in UFA) puts Hughes on the Block. No way! He’s our best pass rusher. What team have you been watching? But he is at the end of his career do hood move to draft his replacement after this year or next 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, 4merper4mer said: I was rooting for that kid but I think that is likely. Beane with the Big Johnson smoke screen last night. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 There’s going to be some serious competition on the DL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, Bob Vance said: As a life long Wake Forest fan, I LOVE this pick!! welcome and give us more of your thoughts about Basham and refrigeration 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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