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7 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

I could be wrong. I also suspect that they weren't particularly thrilled with Star last season. But I'm guessing here. I just don't think they want guys who think there's a bigger world out there than football and the team culture that goes with it.

That imo, would show a very dark side to SMs personality, and would in the short and long term tend to drive players away from wanting to hitch their wagons (families) to the Bills train,  it would appear to go against all the “we are a family and love one another” talk that SM so readily professes, jmo. 

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No one....I see a trade down to pick up an extra early third round pick.

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Elijah Moore, WR Ole Miss.

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I think the Bills will trade up to around 20, surrendering their 1st, 3rd & (1) 5th round picks, plus a 2022 3rd rounder to select JOK...it satisfies covering the tight end position, as well as a

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I will predict trading back to the 2nd, getting Harris and then using the 61st pick on the best available defensive player.    I would prefer that they not pick a running back this early but would much rather have Harris than Etienne if they did go that route.   

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1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

An Edmunds bash.  You’re surprised?

Not surprised by that but am surprised about projecting Werner to MLB. Maybe in an odd front. He’s a 4-3 SAM, if he played in the middle in college it was only because the true mlb was injured or something 

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23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Not surprised by that but am surprised about projecting Werner to MLB. Maybe in an odd front. He’s a 4-3 SAM, if he played in the middle in college it was only because the true mlb was injured or something 


He plays like a heat-seeking missile.  Tough, instinctive leader who tackles the right way.  And I think he’s big and rangy enough to man the middle.  He looks like Speilman to me, just needs to add a bit more weight.

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He plays like a heat-seeking missile.  Tough, instinctive leader who tackles the right way.  And I think he’s big and rangy enough to man the middle.  He looks like Speilman to me, just needs to add a bit more weight.

He’s big enough but he is more of a Milano type player 

I’m not saying he couldn’t do it but I don’t think it’s a natural fit. Jmo - maybe it would work 

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I am not going to guess who the Bills draft. BUT, I will put my money on them moving up and trading next yrs 1 to do so. Bills are gonna go with the mentality that theyll be drafting 30 or later again next yr, and use that 1 as a win now mind set.   Just Have no clue who'd they convey in moving up. Player would need to drop at least to mid teens. 

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15 minutes ago, dbfla10 said:

I am not going to guess who the Bills draft. BUT, I will put my money on them moving up and trading next yrs 1 to do so. Bills are gonna go with the mentality that theyll be drafting 30 or later again next yr, and use that 1 as a win now mind set.   Just Have no clue who'd they convey in moving up. Player would need to drop at least to mid teens. 

Damn that'd be crazy but if they did that I could only guess a handful of players: JOK, Surtain, Horn, or maybe the top edge. I see it unlikely but you never know I guess.

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24 minutes ago, dbfla10 said:

I am not going to guess who the Bills draft. BUT, I will put my money on them moving up and trading next yrs 1 to do so. Bills are gonna go with the mentality that theyll be drafting 30 or later again next yr, and use that 1 as a win now mind set.   Just Have no clue who'd they convey in moving up. Player would need to drop at least to mid teens. 

I'm thinking/hoping for the opposite.  If their targeted value player is gone (G Newsome) they will trade back with Philly seven spots and get Z Ertz.

 

The mentality is to have a balance: Strive to be good for a long time - which means drafting good players at expensive positions yet have short term year over year improvements (TE1 Ertz > D Knox).

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24 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I'm thinking/hoping for the opposite.  If their targeted value player is gone (G Newsome) they will trade back with Philly seven spots and get Z Ertz.

 

The mentality is to have a balance: Strive to be good for a long time - which means drafting good players at expensive positions yet have short term year over year improvements (TE1 Ertz > D Knox).

If they get Ertz and the eagles 37th for our 1, I am all for that. Drop 7spots and pick an immediate impact player. 

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1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

They will trade out of the spot.  Just have a feeling.

That seems to be Beane’s MO, and he never moves back, so I’m thinking we end up picking in the early 20’s.  I think it’s a bad move, because at that part of the draft, you really don’t know who’s going to be available.  Identify 3 or 4 guys you want at that spot and wait for your pick to come up.

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4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Asante Samuel CB. If he is gone they will take the next corner up. 

 

Bank on it.

One thing you can bank on is that if Bean likes a player he will go get him , I don’t think Bean will settle on taking what ever CB will fall to him at 30 

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1 hour ago, glazeduck said:

I don't think Rousseau's a McBeane type, personally.

Why do you think that? I was just reading some of the quoted articles from his wikipedia page and while it didn't have too much about his personality it seemed to be good. Was a wr/s in high school, Miami had to convince him to get a nasty streak to play DE because they thought it would make him a better player.

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Just now, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

Why do you think that? I was just reading some of the quoted articles from his wikipedia page and while it didn't have too much about his personality it seemed to be good. Was a wr/s in high school, Miami had to convince him to get a nasty streak to play DE because they thought it would make him a better player.

Part scheme fit/part reading the tea leaves...

 

I think to get the most out of Rousseau he needs 30lbs and to be more of an interior DE -- a lot like Calais Campbell. I think that's a weird fit next to Epenesa who's a similar win with strength, motor, leverage, inside type. To me, more of a bendy win-around-the-edge guy makes more sense.

 

WRT to his personality -- I wouldn't say it's that, so much as a general disappointment in his testing. I know that's not all there is to a player, but when you've only got 1 year of college tape/production and then you sit out the next season, there's just not a lot to go off of. If I can't see that he's been working his butt off for his professional interview, I just have to question what he HAS been doing... I think Rousseau falls a lot farther than some think. 

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3 minutes ago, glazeduck said:

Part scheme fit/part reading the tea leaves...

 

I think to get the most out of Rousseau he needs 30lbs and to be more of an interior DE -- a lot like Calais Campbell. I think that's a weird fit next to Epenesa who's a similar win with strength, motor, leverage, inside type. To me, more of a bendy win-around-the-edge guy makes more sense.

 

WRT to his personality -- I wouldn't say it's that, so much as a general disappointment in his testing. I know that's not all there is to a player, but when you've only got 1 year of college tape/production and then you sit out the next season, there's just not a lot to go off of. If I can't see that he's been working his butt off for his professional interview, I just have to question what he HAS been doing... I think Rousseau falls a lot farther than some think. 

Interesting, ok. I thought he checked a lot of boxes - versatility, young, raw, room to grow both physically and technique-wise. The proday didn't look elite though, you're right about that. It will be interesting to see who goes first between him and Oweh. 

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42 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

Interesting, ok. I thought he checked a lot of boxes - versatility, young, raw, room to grow both physically and technique-wise. The proday didn't look elite though, you're right about that. It will be interesting to see who goes first between him and Oweh. 

Yeah I think what I'm saying is separating what "I think the Bills will do" with "what I think of Rousseau" -- there's a TON of biases and assumptions that go into all of that.

 

As a draft nerd, I like Rousseau the player and certainly see a path to him becoming a VERY good football player. As a Bills fan, I can see a lot of reasons why he doesn't make a super logical fit, but a lot of that is also how I would build a team, it's entirely possible the FO is excited about the idea.

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I will say that they attempt to trade up somewhere in the 19-24 range to secure one of Paye or Newsome, if they are still there. If neither are there...

They stay at 30 and take one of the Edge rushers who remain between Phillips, Oweh, or Rousseau. If none of the three are there...

They take Etienne. If he is not there...

They trade out of the 1st Round.

 

Scenario nobody suspects: They eschew Farley's medicals and swing for the fences on his talent.

 

If you're pinning me down for one, I'll say they end up with Oweh because he has the type of measurables they covet and they will hope to coach him up. If they can't get Newsome but Farley is still there at 30 and they truly don't trust his medicals, I think they'll wait to grab their CB in Round 2 or Round 3. I also think they'll take at least two CBs in this draft (three, if you include S).  

 

GO BILLS!!! 

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Very hard to say, but I will guess Tyson Campbell with an outside shot of taking either DE Joe Tryon or Payton Turner.  Oweh would be the ultimate gamble on greatness.

5 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Trade down with Eagles. Our 30 for their 37 and Ertz. Tomorrow we take either of the Moore WR, Rondale or Elijah, or KadariusToney, and we drive defenses insane. 

I’ll take a trade down, but prefer a draft pick instead of Ertz - he was great, but I fear he’s spent.

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