Logic Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 If "WR group" doesn't include tight ends, then Tampa Bay is not superior to Buffalo, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: No. Do you think it's the Mets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I'm saying that 6'2+ 215lb+ guy that wins with size. Both Diggs and Sanders can make contested catches pretty routinely. Diggs one of the best in the NFL. No question, with Diggs. I will say though, looking at Sanders highlights, I was impressed by his willingness to make contact, after the catch, to gain more yards. Not knocking Diggs at all, but it was hard not to notice last season that he likes to avoid contact as much as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you think it's the Mets? I think the Mets have a top 3 rotation in the MLB. I also think the Bills have a top 3 WR corps in the NFL. I don't believe the Mets have the best rotation, nor do I believe the Bills have the best WR corps. And I'm cool with bofe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 For those mentioning the Cardinals, I think the better argument currently is Christian Kirk moreso than AJ Green. Also like Isabella's upside. A sleeper pick: the Jaguars. Nowhere near elite at the top end, but I like their potential 5-wide with Marvin Jones, DJ Chark, Laviska Shenault, Jr., Phillip Dorsett, and Dede Westbrook/Chris Conley. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I think it comes down to Bills and Bucs. Bills are definitely anywhere from 1-3 imo though. But I'd probably give the edge to Bucs just because their TE's are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 The Bills have a great WR corps, but Sanders and Beasley are up there in age and may not be as fast and quick as they once were, and also may be more injury prone due to their age. I'm certainly not complaining, but just pointing out some realistic information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: What about Arizona? Hopkins is best WR in football paired with Fitzgerald and now AJ Green. Bills are deeper but AZ is in the conversation Fitz and AJ are at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, Logic said: If "WR group" doesn't include tight ends, then Tampa Bay is not superior to Buffalo, in my opinion. The OP specifically says WR group, so I'm personally ignoring the tight ends. Need to wait and see what the WR groups look like when the offseason is over IMO. If the Bucs bring Antonio Brown back again, which seems increasingly likely, I think that locks Tampa in as the #1 group in football. Two of the top 10 or so WRs in the league, Brown is still very good, and solid depth behind them with Miller and Johnson. I would probably go: Tampa (assuming they bring AB back, probably down to #3 if not) Buffalo Dallas Arizona NY Giants Cleveland Pittsburgh 29 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: For those mentioning the Cardinals, I think the better argument currently is Christian Kirk moreso than AJ Green. Also like Isabella's upside. A sleeper pick: the Jaguars. Nowhere near elite at the top end, but I like their potential 5-wide with Marvin Jones, DJ Chark, Laviska Shenault, Jr., Phillip Dorsett, and Dede Westbrook/Chris Conley. Jags definitely are nowhere near #1 but it is a talented group there. Conley just signed with Houston though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: Dallas has the best WR corps in the NFL. Dallas is better than both. Three #1 WRs Amari Cooper has never cracked 1200 yards in a season. Stefon Diggs had over 1400 last season. Ceedee Lamb had 935 yards last season. Cole Beasley had 967. Michael Gallup had 843 and 5 TDs. Gabriel Davis had 599 and 7 TDs. Then Buffalo has McKenzie, who caught 5 TDs, and Sanders, who had 726 yards and 5 TDs. Dallas' group has the POTENTIAL to be the best. Based on actual proven PRODUCTION in the NFL, though, and taking top-to-bottom depth into account? I'm going Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: Dallas has the best WR corps in the NFL. Dallas is better than both. Three #1 WRs I'll have to disagree. They are good, but imo Bills, Bucs are better. Honestly I think Bills/Bucs are better by enough for me to not even question it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: John, agreed on Tampa. I give them the edge simply because of the soar subject of TE’s. Evans Godwin Miller Brate Gronk Howard Miller is meh. He wouldn't make our top 5. Looks like he is in high school still. McKenzie is underrated as a receiver. He is quick enuf to make DB's look silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 44 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Jags definitely are nowhere near #1 but it is a talented group there. Conley just signed with Houston though. Agreed. I guess my intent was to say I think they could be solidly in this discussion by season’s end. And ok thanks re: Conley. I checked ourlads and they had him on the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, DCofNC said: Fitz at this point is 37 years old and still able to play in the NFL. There’s just no way to expect him to be what he was in his prime, but I think any team would be pretty thrilled to have him as a #3 or 4, he’s a possession monster. AJ Green to me is the Clowney of WRs, he has accounted for a crazy number of tipped interceptions. He’s a flash play guy, but a guy I’m honestly not upset the Bills didn’t draft oh and he hasn’t been healthy in years. Then there is D-Hop, arguably the best in the game, so yeah, I’m with you, they aren’t in the conversation at this point in their careers. AJ Green was elite for years, though. Clowney has never been elite. He has 32 sacks in 7 seasons in the NFL. To put that into perspective, Mario Addison has almost 50 sacks over the past 7 seasons. Clowney is just an average defensive end who at times has been above average. But Green has had six 1,000 yard seasons in the NFL, including two over 1,300 yards, and he also has three seasons of double digit TD's. So he was for sure an elite receiver. Clowney has never gotten there as a defensive end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: Nope, Dallas still has the best WR group in the NFL. 2020 Josh Allen maximized the production of the Bills WRs, so comparing those numbers mean very very little. Taking the QB out of it, judging strictly by the talent level of the WRs in a vacuum, Dallas is clearly the best. Just imagine 2020 Josh Allen with the Cowboys 3-WR set. Once again, three #1 WRs. The Cowboys have three #1 WRs. The Bills have one #1 WR. Three #1 WRs >>> One #1 WR + role players I don't consider all three as #1 WR's myself. Maybe lamb could be, Cooper I don't. But it's cool man, agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 After years of running out Kelvin Benjamin and Zay Jones, I'm just happy to be in the conversation. And we certainly are amongst the best groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: What about Arizona? Hopkins is best WR in football paired with Fitzgerald and now AJ Green. Bills are deeper but AZ is in the conversation can to imagine that group 5 years ago?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 The Bucs and Cardinals both have better groups...so I guess I'd put Buffalo third, without looking at rosters right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I generally say "top 3," which I think is accurate. I wouldn't say the best. Still, pretty amazing when you think about it. After Price/Moulds, most of the drought was JAG city. Evans and Stevie were some of the rare exceptions, and I guess you could say TO, even though he was past his prime. Hard to think of anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 The title says best “WR” group so when you don’t factor in TEs that does make a case for us being better than KC because Kelce truly runs that engine. Tampa and Buffalo and truly the top 2 in terms of being 5 deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: John, agreed on Tampa. I give them the edge simply because of the soar subject of TE’s. Evans Godwin Miller Brate Gronk Howard Question was wide receiver group? You have three TEs in there. Edited March 24, 2021 by Baba Booey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: What about Arizona? Hopkins is best WR in football paired with Fitzgerald and now AJ Green. Bills are deeper but AZ is in the conversation Fitz is ancient This group is very close to the group the Bills had in 74 Ahmad Rashad,JD Hill,Bobby Chandler,Wallace Francis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, Baba Booey said: Question was wide receiver group? You have three TEs in there. rook, these guys are WR’s not blocking only TE’s. It’s important to look at the total landscape. It’s dumb to parse out rb’s from wr’s, from TE’s. all of them fit into a passing game. I won’t respond, but you parsing just wr’s doesn’t make sense. Tampa’s wrs are in part te’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Logic said: If "WR group" doesn't include tight ends, then Tampa Bay is not superior to Buffalo, in my opinion. If you take out Kelce in KC the Bills are way better than the Chiefs stable so far this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: What about Arizona? Hopkins is best WR in football paired with Fitzgerald and now AJ Green. Bills are deeper but AZ is in the conversation Age hurts Arizona here, as Green had declining in Cincinnati for awhile now, and Fitzgerald was drafted in 2004. Atlanta’s Top 2 of Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley have huge talent when healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Solidly in the top 5 We have the best group of route runners with diggs, beasley and sanders probably by far And all Josh needs is a foot of separation and he will fire it in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 9 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: Some very good up and coming Sets 49ers- Aiyuk , Deebo, Kittle Broncos - Sutton, Jeudy, Hamler, Fant Dolphins- Fuller, Parker, Preston, Giesiki Steelers, Johnson, Juju , Claypool Good list. And if the Dolphins add JaMarr Chase, lookout. Fortunately, they don't have a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Last year Diggs was the best WR in football. Fitzgerald is on his last legs and AJ Green hasn't been healthy or great in the last 3 years. Last year Diggs had most yards and receptions. He had the best season. Hopkins is still the best WR. Diggs and Adams are close second and third. Fitz YPC really dropped last year. He missed multiple games too. Green played all 16 games with bad QB play and still had 11.1 YPC almost the same as Sanders. Will be interesting to see if both can stay healthy next year. I’m not sold on their QB though. He really faded in the last quarter of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Buftex said: No question, with Diggs. I will say though, looking at Sanders highlights, I was impressed by his willingness to make contact, after the catch, to gain more yards. Not knocking Diggs at all, but it was hard not to notice last season that he likes to avoid contact as much as possible. I will take staying healthy, getting out of bounds, or falling to the ground instead of fighting for an extra yard when it doesn’t matter. Every time he did that last year he already had as much yardage as was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: rook, these guys are WR’s not blocking only TE’s. It’s important to look at the total landscape. It’s dumb to parse out rb’s from wr’s, from TE’s. all of them fit into a passing game. I won’t respond, but you parsing just wr’s doesn’t make sense. Tampa’s wrs are in part te’s. Yes but the OP listed the Bills 5 WRs and specifically typed WR group not receiving group. If the intent was to include all receivers including TE and RB, then Tampa and KC are far ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Top 4 but not 1st. Tampa Cowboys Falcons Bills I think the Cheifs WR group is overrated. Sure they have a top 3 WR in Tyreek, but im not that impressed by Hardman or their depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Last year Diggs had most yards and receptions. He had the best season. Hopkins is still the best WR. Diggs and Adams are close second and third. Fitz YPC really dropped last year. He missed multiple games too. Green played all 16 games with bad QB play and still had 11.1 YPC almost the same as Sanders. Will be interesting to see if both can stay healthy next year. I’m not sold on their QB though. He really faded in the last quarter of the season Joe Burrow as a rookie was averaging nearly 270 yards a game at a 65% percentage. AJ Green was 4th on his team in receptions. 50 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Yes but the OP listed the Bills 5 WRs and specifically typed WR group not receiving group. If the intent was to include all receivers including TE and RB, then Tampa and KC are far ahead. Correct. I started the topic because Sal C was talking specifically WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 11 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: What about Arizona? Hopkins is best WR in football paired with Fitzgerald and now AJ Green. Bills are deeper but AZ is in the conversation in 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: rook, these guys are WR’s not blocking only TE’s. It’s important to look at the total landscape. It’s dumb to parse out rb’s from wr’s, from TE’s. all of them fit into a passing game. I won’t respond, but you parsing just wr’s doesn’t make sense. Tampa’s wrs are in part te’s. Old man, all I was pointing out was the question asked wide receiver group. The Bills have a better wr group than the Bucs. The Bucs have a better TE group than the Bills!!! So when they get franchise tagged do they go under Wide Receivers or Tight Ends???🤫 Maybe you should ask Jimmy Graham Edited March 25, 2021 by Baba Booey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 It will be interesting to see who emerges as our #2 receiver this year. I just have a hunch that it won't be Beasley. And that will be a good thing because I still think Beasley will be solid and chip in around 650 yards. But I could see both Sanders and Davis eclipsing that total with one of them right around 1,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Didn't see it mentioned or may have missed but Browns got a pretty decent WR core also 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 5:42 PM, Ethan in Portland said: I will take staying healthy, getting out of bounds, or falling to the ground instead of fighting for an extra yard when it doesn’t matter. Every time he did that last year he already had as much yardage as was needed. Oh, not knocking it...but I also don't knock adding a little more muscle to the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 8:29 AM, Royale with Cheese said: On WGR, Sal brought this up. Our top 5 is set. Diggs Beasley Sanders Davis McKenzie I honestly don't know most teams depth behind their #1 and #2 so I can't give a "knowledgeable" answer. It's really guess at this point but I can't think of anyone, overall top to bottom, that is absolutely better than us. What do you guys think? Remember this? Kelvin Benjamin Zay Jones Robert Foster Andre Holmes Isaiah McKenzie Incredible strides this TEAM has made in 3 years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 8:35 AM, machine gun kelly said: John, agreed on Tampa. I give them the edge simply because of the soar subject of TE’s. Evans Godwin Miller Brate Gronk Howard Tyler Johnson is good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 12:29 PM, Logic said: Amari Cooper has never cracked 1200 yards in a season. Stefon Diggs had over 1400 last season. Ceedee Lamb had 935 yards last season. Cole Beasley had 967. Michael Gallup had 843 and 5 TDs. Gabriel Davis had 599 and 7 TDs. Then Buffalo has McKenzie, who caught 5 TDs, and Sanders, who had 726 yards and 5 TDs. Dallas' group has the POTENTIAL to be the best. Based on actual proven PRODUCTION in the NFL, though, and taking top-to-bottom depth into account? I'm going Buffalo. Dallas also played with Andy Dalton for most of the year, and Lamb was also a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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