OldTimer1960 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I love this and the Milano re-signing. Two would-be holes closed before they were created. They certainly have spots where they could upgrade or add depth (DE, CB, OL depth or improvement, TE), but they really are in a position to take their highest graded players in each round of the upcoming draft regardless of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: Not according to Spotrac’s market valuations of both, which were higher than what the Bills paid. Everything I’ve read is contrary to your post. I wonder if some of the recent OT releases caused Williams to drop his price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Pretty much direct swaps for Jefferson and Brown... think most of us would have taken that at the start of the week... I don't know about most of you.........the tenor here before Milano re-signed was more about improving in FA in areas where they struggled in the playoffs. I'd rather have Williams and a playmaker like Curtis Samuel......or a pass rusher.......than use that $ retain Milano. Hopefully they are willing to continue pushing cap debt and actually address those spots with playmakers as well............if not, then these moves were a half-measure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Yessssss!!! All year we heard players say how much they love each other , the coaches and fan base. We're seeing that was the truth. Milano n Williams could have probably gotten 2 mil more per year in FA. They didn’t even try. Hyde too,, next year.. Having coaches n teammates you truly love playing for and with is priceless! As well as the pay cuts by Addison and Morse. You can tell guys meant every word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I'm a little disappointed Beane isn't getting these contracts done at like 10pm like he normally does. Seems odd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Mickey said: Scratch all those mocks that have us taking an OT with our first pick! No doubt. I am even thinking speed receiver like E Moore if he is there still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I don't know about most of you.........the tenor here before Milano re-signed was more about improving in FA in areas where they struggled in the playoffs. I'd rather have Williams and a playmaker like Curtis Samuel......or a pass rusher.......than use that $ retain Milano. Hopefully they are willing to continue pushing cap debt and actually address those spots with playmakers as well............if not, then these moves were a half-measure. It seems like they think that they aren’t too far away and are concentrating on bringing it back rather than wanting to bring in new guys... I think the deal that they have brought back Milano at is pretty reasonable and they can move on from it in two years if they dont think his play warrants it or your injury concern worries prove to be correct... And this will also coincide with the time they need to start paying JA.. They obviously see him as a pretty valuable piece on the D with Hyde, Poyer, Tre, and my biggest concern Edmunds whom I’m not so sure they should extend... Milano plays a 100% of the snaps and has been a pretty good over his 4 years here... although I will say that 2020 wasn’t his best year...He is also a popular locker room guy which counts for a lot on this team .. I don’t think they make a flashy FA offensive signing as money is tight... I could see them bring in a second tier TE around $5m a year...they will need a Guard and Swing Tackle. Although neither will break the bank... I was hoping they would get a pass rusher but after Addison taking a pay cut this appears unlikely I have done a 180 now though on the idea of drafting a guy like Toney at 30 as their obvious needs are disappearing and they could do with some further speed now that Brown is gone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Me likey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: If they re-sign Feliciano that only leaves 1 guard spot open and I would think Cody Ford will get every opportunity to earn it. Yeah, I want an upgrade at RG, Ford will play LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Not sure why they would think that considering they got their doors blown off basically in both games against the Chiefs.... The Chiefs have got their own worries like finding an OL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: Yeah, I want an upgrade at RG, Ford will play LG Wyatt Davis in the draft at RG would be *chefs kiss* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: It seems like they think that they aren’t too far away and are concentrating on bringing it back rather than wanting to bring in new guys... I think the deal that they have brought back Milano at is pretty reasonable and they can move on from it in two years if they dont think his play warrants it or your injury concern worries prove to be correct... And this will also coincide with the time they need to start paying JA.. They obviously see him as a pretty valuable piece on the D with Hyde, Poyer, Tre, and my biggest concern Edmunds whom I’m not so sure they should extend... Milano plays a 100% of the snaps and has been a pretty good over his 4 years here... although I will say that 2020 wasn’t his best year...He is also a popular locker room guy which counts for a lot on this team .. I don’t think they make a flashy FA offensive signing as money is tight... I could see them bring in a second tier TE around $5m a year...they will need a Guard and Swing Tackle. Although neither will break the bank... I was hoping they would get a pass rusher but after Addison taking a pay cut this appears unlikely I have done a 180 now though on the idea of drafting a guy like Toney at 30 as their obvious needs are disappearing and they could do with some further speed now that Brown is gone... I agree with a lot of that but the big problem with Milano is he doesn't play nearly enough snaps. He only made it into 31% of the defensive snaps last year and he's never made it to 90%. OTB linebackers don't make or break success in the NFL......the Chiefs made it all the way to the SB with basically no quality LB play and they didn't lose the game because of it. If you are paying him as much as Milano you really NEED that OTB LB to be out there almost all the time at least. Also not high on Toney. I know why people want that guy like Tyreek Hill........but there is a big difference between most elusive players and Hill. And it's that extra juice that makes all the difference. Take a tenth off of Hill's 40 speed and he's just a pretty fast, undersized WR. I like the proven option in Samuel........he seemed like a perfect fit, legit 4.3 speed but also can play RB and is an excellent deep WR........especially with Beasley in his walk year and getting up there in age.......he could have been a real threat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: So now that we took care of our own, we have a wide open draft. Gonna need a guard sometime after 1st round.... who's this free up to draft? Beane is God if he runs up the board for Pitts As much as I was fine with the possibility to trade down in this year's draft and garner extra picks and look for value in the 2nd & 3rd rounds, I now want to see Beane say "Screw it with the future picks, because the future is NOW!" If Beane sees a player that is going to have a major impact with the team immediately, then go and get him! I don't care if we have to mortgage our first round pick in 2022 or sacrifice our early picks in this year's draft. Go after Pitts, or Paye, or Rousseau, or Surtain, or Waddle. Why not? Edited March 13, 2021 by Mark Vader 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I don't know about most of you.........the tenor here before Milano re-signed was more about improving in FA in areas where they struggled in the playoffs. I'd rather have Williams and a playmaker like Curtis Samuel......or a pass rusher.......than use that $ retain Milano. Hopefully they are willing to continue pushing cap debt and actually address those spots with playmakers as well............if not, then these moves were a half-measure. I'd say they are in better shape now to draft and have control of a playmaker in this upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stinky finger Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I'm hoping they invest a high draft pick on a WR.... need to replace Brown and not just throw Davis in there.... would've loved Samuel. Can't see it happening now. That's ok. They'll get Josh something real nice with that first pick. K. Toney is my hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Wow. Great move. Let Feliciano walk or see if you can bring him back untraceable. Just draft 4 front 7 defenders, a TE, and a DB that can return kicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Bengals fans were hoping to sign Williams this off season: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Daryl-Williams-Re-signs-with-Bills And it's always fun to read a take on the Bills like this from another fan base: Yep, hurts for us Bengal fans, for sure. However, can you really blame the guy for wanting to stay with the Bills? They have one of the most rabid ban bases in football, in Bills Mafia. They have a good team, with what looks like a potential future All-Pro in Allen at QB, they made noise in the playoffs, and are doing their level best to keep the band together. Meanwhile, you have the Bengals. The Bengals missed their sweet spot with 5 straight playoff appearances, their chance to get noticed and command respect from Big Market USA. The team that was, is now diminished and pretty much starting from scratch with a new franchise QB, and a handful of younger, talented players. If I hadn't been a Bengal fan my whole life, it would be really tough to not love the Bills, as a new football fan. 6 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: As much as I was fine with the possibility to trade down in this year's draft and garner extra picks and look for value in the 2nd & 3rd rounds, I now want to see Beane say "Screw it with the future picks, because the future is NOW!" If Beane sees a player that is going to have a major impact with the team immediately, then go and get him! I don't care if we have to mortgage our first round pick in 2022 or sacrifice our early picks in this year's draft. Go after Pitts, or Paye, or Rousseau, or Surtain, or Waddle. Why not? He really did free up the draft to make it happen. I truly believe BPA is the plan, but trading up for BPA at a position of need is what he's gunna have his eye on this year IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Wow. Great move. Let Feliciano walk or see if you can bring him back untraceable. Just draft 4 front 7 defenders, a TE, and a DB that can return kicks You might be mad. It looks like we are now in “luxury pick” status and I wouldn’t be super surprised if we go RB at 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Governor said: You might be mad. It looks like we are now in “luxury pick” status and I wouldn’t be super surprised if we go RB at 30. My offseason prediction had Harris drafted at 30. So yes I can see that happen. But this regime likes their own and I suspect they want to give Singletary and Moss another year. They need to draft a true NT to replace Star in 2022, two edge players, and a LB in with four of the first five picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Well to be fair, it took until year 3 of Josh's career for it to happen. The first 2...yuck. 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: I don't know about most of you.........the tenor here before Milano re-signed was more about improving in FA in areas where they struggled in the playoffs. I'd rather have Williams and a playmaker like Curtis Samuel......or a pass rusher.......than use that $ retain Milano. Hopefully they are willing to continue pushing cap debt and actually address those spots with playmakers as well............if not, then these moves were a half-measure. I can't see them spending big money in FA or even a high draft pick on a WR with Diggs and Beasley as your #1 and slot and Davis looking ready to take the #2 spot. Signing a guy like Samuel or drafting one high just pushes Davis down the depth chart. 51 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I agree with a lot of that but the big problem with Milano is he doesn't play nearly enough snaps. He only made it into 31% of the defensive snaps last year and he's never made it to 90%. OTB linebackers don't make or break success in the NFL......the Chiefs made it all the way to the SB with basically no quality LB play and they didn't lose the game because of it. If you are paying him as much as Milano you really NEED that OTB LB to be out there almost all the time at least. Also not high on Toney. I know why people want that guy like Tyreek Hill........but there is a big difference between most elusive players and Hill. And it's that extra juice that makes all the difference. Take a tenth off of Hill's 40 speed and he's just a pretty fast, undersized WR. I like the proven option in Samuel........he seemed like a perfect fit, legit 4.3 speed but also can play RB and is an excellent deep WR........especially with Beasley in his walk year and getting up there in age.......he could have been a real threat. Look deeper into the reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Incredible work by Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said: Bengals fans were hoping to sign Williams this off season: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Daryl-Williams-Re-signs-with-Bills And it's always fun to read a take on the Bills like this from another fan base: Yep, hurts for us Bengal fans, for sure. However, can you really blame the guy for wanting to stay with the Bills? They have one of the most rabid ban bases in football, in Bills Mafia. They have a good team, with what looks like a potential future All-Pro in Allen at QB, they made noise in the playoffs, and are doing their level best to keep the band together. Meanwhile, you have the Bengals. The Bengals missed their sweet spot with 5 straight playoff appearances, their chance to get noticed and command respect from Big Market USA. The team that was, is now diminished and pretty much starting from scratch with a new franchise QB, and a handful of younger, talented players. If I hadn't been a Bengal fan my whole life, it would be really tough to not love the Bills, as a new football fan. I am Switzerland neutral on the Bengals despite living in Ohio for the past 28 years. I have so many friends who are Bengals fans and have this exact mindset. I do have more empathy for them than I do the browns. Probably because I love Joey Burrow, he is the absolute goods. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Wow. What great news. Brandon Beane and Coach McD. There is a reason why NFL Players want to stay on your team. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I am Switzerland neutral on the Bengals despite living in Ohio for the past 28 years. I have so many friends who are Bengals fans and have this exact mindset. I do have more empathy for them than I do the browns. Probably because I love Joey Burrow, he is the absolute goods. They need to put a solid O-Line in front of Burrow before he's crippled. I think the Bengals would have gladly overpaid to get Daryl Williams and shore up the RT position just like Beane overpaid for Morse to help his young franchise QB. Burrow is the real deal if he can stay off injured reserve. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Just now, Inigo Montoya said: They need to put a solid O-Line in front of Burrow before he's crippled. I think the Bengals would have gladly overpaid to get Daryl Williams and shore up the RT position just like Beane overpaid for Morse to help his young franchise QB. Burrow is the real deal if he can stay off injured reserve. Agree. They need an OL more than anything. Assuming burrow recovers from the ACL I have no doubt he will take care of that side of the ball. In fact I would take him over any of the other QBs in that division. He’s special 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Wow. What great news. Brandon Beane and Coach McD. There is a reason why NFL Players want to stay on your team. Thank You. Doesnt hurt that the reduced cap will result in a mad dash of musical chairs with the losers having to compete for jobs at the vet minimum while facing the prospect of moving their families during COVID. Not saying McBeane shouldn’t get some credit here but this isn’t your average offseason. Never been a riskier time to be a free agent vet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Doesnt hurt that the reduced cap will result in a mad dash of musical chairs with the losers having to compete for jobs at the vet minimum while facing the prospect of moving their families during COVID. Not saying McBeane shouldn’t get some credit here but this isn’t your average offseason. Never been a riskier time to be a free agent vet. Good point and I did not consider that. Still, the direction of the franchise and the perception of the city are both trending up and both of them want to come back. I’ll take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 31 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Doesnt hurt that the reduced cap will result in a mad dash of musical chairs with the losers having to compete for jobs at the vet minimum while facing the prospect of moving their families during COVID. Not saying McBeane shouldn’t get some credit here but this isn’t your average offseason. Never been a riskier time to be a free agent vet. The good players (like Williams) will have their choice of teams/contracts. Guys like Feliciano will likely have to settle for scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Why does every NFL GM have this picture of them in a suit, sunglasses, and looking all mean. Lol. Every single one. Well. GM of an NFL franchise is a pretty cool job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 9 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: He was a free agent so it is not an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 9 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: So much for choosing between Milano and Williams, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsinytown Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I am Switzerland neutral on the Bengals despite living in Ohio for the past 28 years. I have so many friends who are Bengals fans and have this exact mindset. I do have more empathy for them than I do the browns. Probably because I love Joey Burrow, he is the absolute goods. Same for me.....I moved from Buffalo to Ohio in 1989 so I'm more of an observer with the Ohio teams. Although I will say that when the Browns and the Steelers are playing meaningful football games against each other, the rivalry between the two is one of the more intense in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasaluki Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 This team is just so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, gobillsinytown said: Same for me.....I moved from Buffalo to Ohio in 1989 so I'm more of an observer with the Ohio teams. Although I will say that when the Browns and the Steelers are playing meaningful football games against each other, the rivalry between the two is one of the more intense in the league. ...and when the Browns and Steelers are playing meaningful games against the Bills, it’s even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 10 hours ago, DCOrange said: Joe B's mock offseason is in shambles So you are saying he should be mocked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Beane doin work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Seems like basically a 1 year commitment with two team options after that and because of that Williams is a pretty easy restructure or cut if the cap doesn't bounce back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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