Warcodered Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: I’m still thinking OT is in play at 30. This draft is deep for OT. They can plug the rookie in at OG, then he takes over for Williams. Maybe a guard/Center to come up behind Morse? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Someone posted the question the other day will McDermott eventually pass Marv as the best coach in Bills history. What does Beane have to do to pass Polian as the best GM in Bills history? I would say either (a) win a Super Bowl or (b) have about a 15 year run of excellence with multiple Super Bowl appearances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Great!! Lol the guy that told me yesterday there was as NO chance this could happen after Milano signing... It is surprising. I don't know many people here who thought they could keep both. I'm assuming the numbers are similar to Milano's in the sense the 2021 cap # is low relative to years 2 and 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) Guessing his cap hit for 21 will a team friendly 7-8M or so. This puts them right at their limit I think? Think they'll be able to restructure/cut their way to one more significant signing or re-signing of Feliciano, but the rest are going to have to be Practice players, vet min, or draft picks Edited March 12, 2021 by appoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Pretty close to his value as well. I said a 8M AVV is what he is worth and was laughed at by many saying if I didn’t come with 12 he walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I'm happy to admit that I was wrong. I thought we'd lose Milano to keep Williams. The draft can go in so many directions now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Why do we all hate Feliciano? I don't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, jwhit34 said: Someone posted the question the other day will McDermott eventually pass Marv as the best coach in Bills history. What does Beane have to do to pass Polian as the best GM in Bills history? I would say either (a) win a Super Bowl or (b) have about a 15 year run of excellence with multiple Super Bowl appearances. Polian didn't have to deal with a salary cap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Maybe a guard/Center to come up behind Morse? I think OT is the better value in this draft... and I’d rather have the 5th year option on an OT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, somnus00 said: I'm happy to admit that I was wrong. I thought we'd lose Milano to keep Williams. The draft can go in so many directions now. Wyatt Davis or Pat Freiermuth are two of my top adds as of now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Yes!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, somnus00 said: I'm happy to admit that I was wrong. I thought we'd lose Milano to keep Williams. The draft can go in so many directions now. Beane tends to like going into the draft with positions filled. Even epenesa wasn't a guarantee since they had signed addison. There were thoughts of oline, dugger or chinn type big nickel, young pass rusher, etc. Just now, The Jokeman said: Wyatt Davis or Pat Freiermuth are two of my top adds as of now. I want someone who can come in and contribute right away - preferably helping the run game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Does make me wonder a little about Feleciano. Will he now not be back? Same thing was said about Milano and Williams. Just have to wait and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Any idea how much cap we have left? $5mm -$7mm for the draft contracts as well right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Beane should be wearing a tall pointed cap with stars and moons. He's a wizard. Now if he could just turn Tom Brady into a newt ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 McBeane GITin' 'R' DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Dammit! Now I have to run that stupid simulator another 20 times taking out RT as a priority in R1-2... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, MJS said: Same thing was said about Milano and Williams. Just have to wait and see what happens. Feliciano was the next name on the priority list. He sounds like he wants to be back and I wouldn't be surprised if we get a home-team discount. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 8 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 36 minutes ago, MWK said: Nice! Let feliciano walk now No way- Feliciano can play guard and center. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, Cruiserplayer said: Right at 12 million in cap left. Just enough to sign rookies and cut star 🤦♂️ Star needs to stay- we missed him last year. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I have completely underestimated Beane, McDermott, and the Bills management. Unbelievable. Hats off to the Bills for getting Milano and Williams done. I basically convinced myself they were gone. Plus we got them back at a reasonable amount. Bravo! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, TPS said: Dammit! Now I have to run that stupid simulator another 20 times taking out RT as a priority in R1-2... Ain't it great? Now we can look at BPA. Although considering how organized Beane is, he probably is looking to holes he expects to need to fill in 2025. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Beane tends to like going into the draft with positions filled. Even epenesa wasn't a guarantee since they had signed addison. There were thoughts of oline, dugger or chinn type big nickel, young pass rusher, etc. I want someone who can come in and contribute right away - preferably helping the run game 1 minute ago, dneveu said: Beane tends to like going into the draft with positions filled. Even epenesa wasn't a guarantee since they had signed addison. There were thoughts of oline, dugger or chinn type big nickel, young pass rusher, etc. I want someone who can come in and contribute right away - preferably helping the run game Davis is a dominant run blocker, able to consistently generate movement along the line of scrimmage in almost any blocking scheme. https://www.bigblueview.com/2021/3/8/22314148/2021-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-wyatt-davis-og-ohio-state-scouting-report-ny-giants#:~:text=Davis is a dominant run,defensive front in zone schemes. Pat Freiermuth is a prospect who goes under the radar when most analysts are evaluating this draft class. Because Penn State was a run-first team, he was asked to mainly block. https://www.bluffballsports.com/blog-4-1/2021-nfl-draft-prospect-breakdown-te-pat-freiermuth-penn-state-kr9zb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Personally I think it's easier to find a starting guard at 30 than finding a starting EDGE rusher. So I would vote to let Feliciano go,, cut Addison, restructure Hughes + Star. Use Kumerow/Duke/Stills as your replacement for Brown on the roster (Gabe Davis is your #2). Use that 10M in cap savings to find a F/A EDGE, draft a starting guard, a DE/3T tweener, a slot corner, a speedy WR, and a TE. Unfortunately TE is likely going to go unanswered this offseason. Think EDGE is more pressing. You could actually snag Friermuth at 30, trade up into the 2nd round and grab a starting RG there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Scratch all those mocks that have us taking an OT with our first pick! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nester said: Any idea how much cap we have left? $5mm -$7mm for the draft contracts as well right? Might be higher, should be around 14 after Milano. Doubt Williams 21 cap hit is high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 $9.4 million per year?????? Wow what a deal!! I thought he was getting $12-14 million per year... Beane is truly a Wizard 🧙♂️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, The Jokeman said: Davis is a dominant run blocker, able to consistently generate movement along the line of scrimmage in almost any blocking scheme. https://www.bigblueview.com/2021/3/8/22314148/2021-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-wyatt-davis-og-ohio-state-scouting-report-ny-giants#:~:text=Davis is a dominant run,defensive front in zone schemes. Pat Freiermuth is a prospect who goes under the radar when most analysts are evaluating this draft class. Because Penn State was a run-first team, he was asked to mainly block. https://www.bluffballsports.com/blog-4-1/2021-nfl-draft-prospect-breakdown-te-pat-freiermuth-penn-state-kr9zb I'm a Penn Stater, and I'd agree with this. When we went the YOLO offense in 2019, he has a huge factor. There's a reason we called him baby Gronk. Would fit perfectly with spirit/philosophy of this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I do. At Center. Agree to disagree. I think we have a solid center who was unable to play to his strengths like pin-pull plays because he had to stay put due to the poor work we were seeing at G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: Star needs to stay- we missed him last year. I agree. I was jokingly referring to star will be cut from inside source thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Can I be a mod for a day and ban anyone who talks ***** about this and Milano? wayyyy ahead of ya 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Huh, so not cutting Mario. That's a 10M cap hit, so I'm hoping that got reduced to about 5M, as he's a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Utah John said: Ain't it great? Now we can look at BPA. Although considering how organized Beane is, he probably is looking to holes he expects to need to fill in 2025. My current best guess of who the Bills would target is Moehrig, for that Big Nickel hybrid role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cruiserplayer said: I agree. I was jokingly referring to star will be cut from inside source thread. Ah my bad - was hard to tell and im not on all that much these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, appoo said: Huh, so not cutting Mario. That's a 10M cap hit, so I'm hoping that got reduced to about 5M, as he's a backup. I wouldn't expect more than a couple million--$5m is pretty drastic. I'm happy to see he took a cut though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, njbuff said: They still have to prove they can beat KC. They didn't even come close in 2020. I am excited about the Bills taking that next step, but we shall see. Keeping our OL in tact, while KC cuts both starting tackles is a good start. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Wow Brandon Beane is a magician. Now if he finds and edge rusher and makes it all work under the cap he has moved beyond magician. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 For the draft now, they definitely can go BPA but for the first round pick my guess is they pick a position like CB or edge rusher because of relative value, particularly in years 3-5 of rookie contract. Then in rounds 2 and 3 I could see offense - interior OL, WR and wouldn't rule out TE or RB. I could also see them trading down, something like #30 for an early 2nd and early 4th. Trade value chart possibilities for #30: Atlanta's 2nd and 4th (#35 and #108) Cincy's 2nd (38), 4th (111) and 5th (149) Bills could throw in their 6th (211) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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