Thurman#1 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) For those of you who get the Athletic, it's here: https://theathletic.com/2354616/2021/01/29/buffalo-bills-kansas-city-chiefs-all-22/ Joe wonders if the fallout of this game will affect their offseason moves. That seems a very reasonable thought to me. I read the article and came here expecting there'd already be a thread on it. I searched "Buscaglia" but couldn't find one. If I missed it, I apologize. Otherwise, here are a few excerpts: Joe: "For much of the game, the Chiefs were daring the Bills to run the ball on them. As the Bills rarely complied or went with heavy personnel, the Chiefs settled into using four defensive linemen, one linebacker and six defensive backs throughout the game, complete with successfully disguising coverages and blitzes before the snap to confuse Josh Allen. None of it would have been possible without the Chiefs defensive line, particularly the tackles, dominating the Bills offensive line the way they did." Ouch. He includes Feliciano in the group of guys who struggled, though many will struggle against Jones. Thoughout the season Joe has graded Feliciano well, but not here, and Morse and Boettger also had problems. 6 DBs consistently? I hadn't noticed that, and haven't gone back to look again at the game. It'll be another few weeks before I can stand to look at it, I would guess. But being able to use 6 DBs consistently is going to make it hard on any QB. Joe: "The last part of their struggles is the most important both to the undoing of the matchup and moving forward. The Bills weren’t able to run the ball with their preferred power scheme consistently at all during the season. Without that trio winning their matchup against a lighter defensive set, it clogged up the rushing lanes. It prevented either Devin Singletary or T.J. Yeldon from taking pressure off Josh Allen, which then allowed the Chiefs to get creative with their blitz calls, knowing that the Bills were more than likely to pass on every down." This makes you wonder whether we might see major changes in the interior this offseason. Morse hasn't appeared himself since the concussion, and might well return to his usual form before next year, but it's hard to be sure of that at his age. Joe: "There wasn’t a lot that went well for the Bills, but second-year defensive tackle Ed Oliver was excellent versus a banged-up Chiefs offensive line. The Chiefs successfully moved the pocket, and quarterback Patrick Mahomes is, at times, a magician with how he’s able to escape pass rush contain to rip apart a zone defense. However, in one-on-one battles and run-defending opportunities, Oliver stood out on multiple plays. He showed excellent hand usage and quickness to dip under the offensive line assignments and helped force stops because of his victories." It's always seemed that way to me on tape after he recovered from his early season injuries. Joe: "As the offensive line and running backs both deserve blame for the rushing attack’s inefficiency, tight end Dawson Knox was a major disappointment as a blocker as well. Knox lost his blocking assignment on several handoffs that directly led to the demise of a running play. It isn’t only a one-week occurrence either. ... His output as a receiver has slightly increased, but he’s nowhere near where the Bills would like him to be at this point in his career. His routes also aren’t crisp enough to deceive defenders, and the majority of his receptions rely either on scheme working him open or physicality to win a contested catch." This is a real concern. I keep hoping for a breakthrough, but so far we have only seen flashes and they've been few and far between. He's going to have to take a major leap up to have a long-term future here. I hope he does, but maybe the Bills should take a look at TE, perhaps even on the first couple of days of the draft. It's a great article with a lot more to it. Highly recommended. Edited January 30, 2021 by Thurman#1 7 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Thanks Thurmon. Not a subscriber so can’t read it, but appreciate you’re snipits. I’ve been on the pulpit since last year when we missed going after Hooper, or we just did it unsuccessfully. He’s not Kelce, but he is a lot better than what we have now. I’m fine with dropping a couple of our TE’s and go after Hunter Henry. Of all the position groups, TE is much more affordable than Edge Rusher, CB, never a RB as they wear out too fast. Even with O Line, look how much Morse cost. The other reason is several TE’s need a couple of years to develop so why draft one, when you have a finished product. Remember Kelce wasn’t explosive his first couple of years out of the draft. There are exceptions, but having only three TE’s such as Henry, Knox, and take you’re pick (guessing Sweeney as he’s cheap and only depth). It’s not like we will morph into a Ravens team and run 13 personnel all the time. It’s crazy, but I can see us going after a fast RB in the draft, a CB, and an Edge Rusher. With the rest if they let Milano go, and I hope they don’t, the a LB. I wouldn’t expect much more than a Henry and just other guys for their depth as they purge some underperformers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Oliver was comfortably our best dlineman. That was obvious just from the TV angle. The flashes from Ed are of a guy with real outstanding talent. A guy who can be in that Chris Jones conversation as the second most disruptive interior lineman in the league after you know who. It is just consistency. Down in down out and game in game out. Brandon Beane said as much when he spoke to the media on Wednesday. If we can get that out of Ed he will be a difference maker. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I was surprised Josh didn't run more. I haven't watched a replay of the game but I read somewhere he had a lot of lanes open but didn't take off. Not sure how accurate that is 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Oliver was comfortably our best dlineman. That was obvious just from the TV angle. The flashes from Ed are of a guy with real outstanding talent. A guy who can be in that Chris Jones conversation as the second most disruptive interior lineman in the league after you know who. It is just consistency. Down in down out and game in game out. Brandon Beane said as much when he spoke to the media on Wednesday. If we can get that out of Ed he will be a difference maker. Agreed, not to risk his burst, but Id like to see 15 lbs. of muscle added so he can match up with some of the road grader guards. A young elite athlete can put in around 10-15 lbs., of coached properly. Anything more and you’re talking about enhancements (I was a competitive power lifter at The national level for 14 years til I blew out my knee, but that was 100 years ago) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Thanks Thurmon. Not a subscriber so can’t read it, but appreciate you’re snipits. I’ve been on the pulpit since last year when we missed going after Hooper, or we just did it unsuccessfully. He’s not Kelce, but he is a lot better than what we have now. I’m fine with dropping a couple of our TE’s and go after Hunter Henry. Of all the position groups, TE is much more affordable than Edge Rusher, CB, never a RB as they wear out too fast. Even with O Line, look how much Morse cost. The other reason is several TE’s need a couple of years to develop so why draft one, when you have a finished product. Remember Kelce wasn’t explosive his first couple of years out of the draft. There are exceptions, but having only three TE’s such as Henry, Knox, and take you’re pick (guessing Sweeney as he’s cheap and only depth). It’s not like we will morph into a Ravens team and run 13 personnel all the time. It’s crazy, but I can see us going after a fast RB in the draft, a CB, and an Edge Rusher. With the rest if they let Milano go, and I hope they don’t, the a LB. I wouldn’t expect much more than a Henry and just other guys for their depth as they purge some underperformers. While I would absolutely love Hunter Henry, the odds on that happening with our current cap situation are very very not good. We'll see, I guess, but IMO we will either draft somebody or wait a year. Or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 You might be right. The easiest way to tell is who Beane extends. The only way we take a shot at a guy like this is if the owners find a way to keep the cap at $200 mil. If that happens and I’m not suggesting it will as I don’t know, but if you cut some dead weight there would be $ to add. It’s just hot air at this point (by me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Nope! I have seen it written here EXPLICITLY that Ed Oliver is a bust and his Jersey and all relative player memorabilia should be blessed by an Amazonian shaman and burned in an ancient burial ground, to remove the ju ju of such a horrendous pick... I seent it.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I hope this puts to end all the talk about not needing any semblance of a running game. I can remember so many threads full of clowns saying “We don’t need to run the ball at all” “Daboll sucks he called 3 run plays in a quarter”. Well, you guys got your wish and we got absolutely destroyed because of the imbalance. You were proven 100% wrong so save your crap takes next season. Knox is a huge disappointment. I was really hoping he just needed some time and reps but he sucks and it’s time to move on. He consistently whiffs on assignments and still has concentration issues catching the ball. I’m not saying cut him outright since he’s on a rookie contract but we need someone to come in and start so we can attack the middle of the field. Brown is gone unless Beane thinks his poor production is 100% injury related Edmunds will get more time and they will pick up his 5th year option. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Thank you. In one of our first two games either against Indy or Baltimore I was able to catch a replay and I got a look at Knox running his route. It looked pretty bad enough for me to question it in a post and I was hoping someone would take a look for him on film review. It’s not good because he if he’s not demanding respect out there then if affects both our passing game and running game. Right now we send Diggs and Smoke deep and the others run crossing routes which take time to develop. We need a tight end end who can draw linebackers away from our run game as a pass threat. Sounds like his blocking was poor too. Next year will be an important year for him and what he can be. I imagine we have to roll with him once more due to the cap. But his game has to get better quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I don't know how I can take anything he wrote seriously. Everyone knows that Ed Oliver is a bust and that we have no running game because our RBs are terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Also this from Football Outsiders. Morse, Boettiger and Mongo were absolutely terrible, and Williams and Knox had several complete whiffs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: For those of you who get the Athletic, it's here: https://theathletic.com/2354616/2021/01/29/buffalo-bills-kansas-city-chiefs-all-22/ Joe wonders if the fallout of this game will affect their offseason moves. That seems a very reasonable thought to me. I read the article and came here expecting there'd already be a thread on it. I searched "Buscaglia" but couldn't find one. If I missed it, I apologize. Otherwise, here are a few excerpts: Joe: "For much of the game, the Chiefs were daring the Bills to run the ball on them. As the Bills rarely complied or went with heavy personnel, the Chiefs settled into using four defensive linemen, one linebacker and six defensive backs throughout the game, complete with successfully disguising coverages and blitzes before the snap to confuse Josh Allen. None of it would have been possible without the Chiefs defensive line, particularly the tackles, dominating the Bills offensive line the way they did." Ouch. He includes Feliciano in the group of guys who struggled, though many will struggle against Jones. Thoughout the season Joe has graded Feliciano well, but not here, and Morse and Boettger also had problems. 6 DBs consistently? I hadn't noticed that, and haven't gone back to look again at the game. It'll be another few weeks before I can stand to look at it, I would guess. But being able to use 6 DBs consistently is going to make it hard on any QB. Joe: "The last part of their struggles is the most important both to the undoing of the matchup and moving forward. The Bills weren’t able to run the ball with their preferred power scheme consistently at all during the season. Without that trio winning their matchup against a lighter defensive set, it clogged up the rushing lanes. It prevented either Devin Singletary or T.J. Yeldon from taking pressure off Josh Allen, which then allowed the Chiefs to get creative with their blitz calls, knowing that the Bills were more than likely to pass on every down." This makes you wonder whether we might see major changes in the interior this offseason. Morse hasn't appeared himself since the concussion, and might well return to his usual form before next year, but it's hard to be sure of that at his age. Joe: "There wasn’t a lot that went well for the Bills, but second-year defensive tackle Ed Oliver was excellent versus a banged-up Chiefs offensive line. The Chiefs successfully moved the pocket, and quarterback Patrick Mahomes is, at times, a magician with how he’s able to escape pass rush contain to rip apart a zone defense. However, in one-on-one battles and run-defending opportunities, Oliver stood out on multiple plays. He showed excellent hand usage and quickness to dip under the offensive line assignments and helped force stops because of his victories." It's always seemed that way to me on tape after he recovered from his early season injuries. Joe: "As the offensive line and running backs both deserve blame for the rushing attack’s inefficiency, tight end Dawson Knox was a major disappointment as a blocker as well. Knox lost his blocking assignment on several handoffs that directly led to the demise of a running play. It isn’t only a one-week occurrence either. ... His output as a receiver has slightly increased, but he’s nowhere near where the Bills would like him to be at this point in his career. His routes also aren’t crisp enough to deceive defenders, and the majority of his receptions rely either on scheme working him open or physicality to win a contested catch." This is a real concern. I keep hoping for a breakthrough, but so far we have only seen flashes and they've been few and far between. He's going to have to take a major leap up to have a long-term future here. I hope he does, but maybe the Bills should take a look at TE, perhaps even on the first couple of days of the draft. It's a great article with a lot more to it. Highly recommended. Knox was raw in the same mold as Allen was. He was used mostly as a blocker in college. Obviously he has not developed the same way Allen has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, RunTheBall said: Edmunds will get more time and they will pick up his 5th year option. I'll take that wager - he was less than useless in all three playoff games. they could bring in a street free agent to play at his level. 3 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Also this from Football Outsiders. Morse, Boettiger and Mongo were absolutely terrible, and Williams and Knox had several complete whiffs. Ouch. Looks like more competition at OL will be on its way. Knox is average at best. No shocker there. Oliver will be amazing if Star returns or we lock up another 1 tech. I'm all aboard the Najee Harris train. His skill set is the perfect counter punch to this type of defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Philly McButterpants said: I'll take that wager - he was less than useless in all three playoff games. they could bring in a street free agent to play at his level. It’s hard for a team that moved up in the first round to pick him to admit their mistake. He’s not leaving. The mistake is the implied thought he might be the next Kuechly. He’s playing out of position, that’s obvious. They have done him no favor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Morse is overrated. Move him and his salary out. Bates might be an answer. Boettger is a nice backup. Ford is your left guard. Williams is your right tackle. Keep Feliciano at guard/center and draft a guard or center, 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Toejam 34 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Knox was raw in the same mold as Allen was. He was used mostly as a blocker in college. Obviously he has not developed the same way Allen has. If he was mostly a blocker in college, this experience doesn't seem to translate to his play in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 The Bills need to find themselves a stud 1-tech. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 And Winters and Ford did better against the Chefs' DTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 It’s won’t be a sexy pick but do not be surprised to see the Bills select OG with their first pick. You can get one of the best guards in the draft at 30, one that is equally capable at both pass and run blocking, and plug him in right away. With the current cap situation Morse could be gone, although they will have to carry dead money instead of just keeping a pretty solid player. Mongo could rotate to C, a better run blocker but less capable pass blocker. Boetger is a solid backup IMO. The key is Ford. Is he going to stay healthy and become the player they thought he was? Williams at RT really needs to be retained, adding to the stress of the situation. Maybe there are other Guards that they like at pick 62, and they can go either DL or CB at 30, but I can see the OL addressed in one of the first 2 picks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: It’s won’t be a sexy pick but do not be surprised to see the Bills select OG with their first pick. You can get one of the best guards in the draft at 30, one that is equally capable at both pass and run blocking, and plug him in right away. With the current cap situation Morse could be gone, although they will have to carry dead money instead of just keeping a pretty solid player. Mongo could rotate to C, a better run blocker but less capable pass blocker. Boetger is a solid backup IMO. The key is Ford. Is he going to stay healthy and become the player they thought he was? Williams at RT really needs to be retained, adding to the stress of the situation. Maybe there are other Guards that they like at pick 62, and they can go either DL or CB at 30, but I can see the OL addressed in one of the first 2 picks. If OL at 30, I'd go C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 the TE writeup is somewhat alarming. What does everyone think of going after Everett from LA? Seems to flash, albeit inconsistently for whatever reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: And Winters and Ford did better against the Chefs' DTs. in no world did winters do better. hes awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: the TE writeup is somewhat alarming. What does everyone think of going after Everett from LA? Seems to flash, albeit inconsistently for whatever reason. He was terrible in the Arizona game that they needed to make the playoffs. Then again, it was just 1 game so not fair to completely judge him off that but he was noticeably bad in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I have a tendency - well - a 40 year habit, of really embracing and supporting anyone wearing a Bills uniform. Morse, Brown and Knox are guys I root hard for. However, continuous improvement means bold off season moves. That may include leaving Morse and Brown behind and investing in another young tight end, keeping Knox through the end of his rookie deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Oliver was comfortably our best dlineman. That was obvious just from the TV angle. The flashes from Ed are of a guy with real outstanding talent. A guy who can be in that Chris Jones conversation as the second most disruptive interior lineman in the league after you know who. It is just consistency. Down in down out and game in game out. Brandon Beane said as much when he spoke to the media on Wednesday. If we can get that out of Ed he will be a difference maker. Agree. Get a really good pass rusher with Oliver. Pick you're poison double team that guy or Oliver as well as free up Hughes more. 22 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: It’s won’t be a sexy pick but do not be surprised to see the Bills select OG with their first pick. You can get one of the best guards in the draft at 30, one that is equally capable at both pass and run blocking, and plug him in right away. With the current cap situation Morse could be gone, although they will have to carry dead money instead of just keeping a pretty solid player. Mongo could rotate to C, a better run blocker but less capable pass blocker. Boetger is a solid backup IMO. The key is Ford. Is he going to stay healthy and become the player they thought he was? Williams at RT really needs to be retained, adding to the stress of the situation. Maybe there are other Guards that they like at pick 62, and they can go either DL or CB at 30, but I can see the OL addressed in one of the first 2 picks. Maybe Chris Jones just might be best pass rusher there is right now. He tops to me at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 We do have a lousy RB1. Singletary needs to be upgraded. He was terrible all playoffs. That wiffed catch was a huge blown play. Not just the interior line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, RichRiderBills said: We do have a lousy RB1. Singletary needs to be upgraded. He was terrible all playoffs. That wiffed catch was a huge blown play. Not just the interior line. Agree. Chiefs didn't respect Bill's run game. Do what they wanted in coverage. Moss would help little bit. Power speed back, make people miss tackles. (maybe combo) would hurt Chiefs lots. Play the passing game and run game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: For those of you who get the Athletic, it's here: https://theathletic.com/2354616/2021/01/29/buffalo-bills-kansas-city-chiefs-all-22/ Joe wonders if the fallout of this game will affect their offseason moves. That seems a very reasonable thought to me. I read the article and came here expecting there'd already be a thread on it. I searched "Buscaglia" but couldn't find one. If I missed it, I apologize. Otherwise, here are a few excerpts: Joe: "For much of the game, the Chiefs were daring the Bills to run the ball on them. As the Bills rarely complied or went with heavy personnel, the Chiefs settled into using four defensive linemen, one linebacker and six defensive backs throughout the game, complete with successfully disguising coverages and blitzes before the snap to confuse Josh Allen. None of it would have been possible without the Chiefs defensive line, particularly the tackles, dominating the Bills offensive line the way they did." Ouch. He includes Feliciano in the group of guys who struggled, though many will struggle against Jones. Thoughout the season Joe has graded Feliciano well, but not here, and Morse and Boettger also had problems. 6 DBs consistently? I hadn't noticed that, and haven't gone back to look again at the game. It'll be another few weeks before I can stand to look at it, I would guess. But being able to use 6 DBs consistently is going to make it hard on any QB. Joe: "The last part of their struggles is the most important both to the undoing of the matchup and moving forward. The Bills weren’t able to run the ball with their preferred power scheme consistently at all during the season. Without that trio winning their matchup against a lighter defensive set, it clogged up the rushing lanes. It prevented either Devin Singletary or T.J. Yeldon from taking pressure off Josh Allen, which then allowed the Chiefs to get creative with their blitz calls, knowing that the Bills were more than likely to pass on every down." This makes you wonder whether we might see major changes in the interior this offseason. Morse hasn't appeared himself since the concussion, and might well return to his usual form before next year, but it's hard to be sure of that at his age. Joe: "There wasn’t a lot that went well for the Bills, but second-year defensive tackle Ed Oliver was excellent versus a banged-up Chiefs offensive line. The Chiefs successfully moved the pocket, and quarterback Patrick Mahomes is, at times, a magician with how he’s able to escape pass rush contain to rip apart a zone defense. However, in one-on-one battles and run-defending opportunities, Oliver stood out on multiple plays. He showed excellent hand usage and quickness to dip under the offensive line assignments and helped force stops because of his victories." It's always seemed that way to me on tape after he recovered from his early season injuries. Joe: "As the offensive line and running backs both deserve blame for the rushing attack’s inefficiency, tight end Dawson Knox was a major disappointment as a blocker as well. Knox lost his blocking assignment on several handoffs that directly led to the demise of a running play. It isn’t only a one-week occurrence either. ... His output as a receiver has slightly increased, but he’s nowhere near where the Bills would like him to be at this point in his career. His routes also aren’t crisp enough to deceive defenders, and the majority of his receptions rely either on scheme working him open or physicality to win a contested catch." This is a real concern. I keep hoping for a breakthrough, but so far we have only seen flashes and they've been few and far between. He's going to have to take a major leap up to have a long-term future here. I hope he does, but maybe the Bills should take a look at TE, perhaps even on the first couple of days of the draft. It's a great article with a lot more to it. Highly recommended. in hindsight, maybe you activate Kroft, and have more Lee smith and Kroft sets out there, and just force those guys out of their dime packages. I know the tradition run game wasn’t great, but the read options running was absolutely there. The very few times we tried it, it was successful. I suspect the Daboll and company would re-do their entire gameplan if given another chance. For a OC who prides himself on tailoring the gameplan and being unpredictable, our game plan was very predictable— and it allowed the chiefs D to dictate the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: It’s won’t be a sexy pick but do not be surprised to see the Bills select OG with their first pick. You can get one of the best guards in the draft at 30, one that is equally capable at both pass and run blocking, and plug him in right away. With the current cap situation Morse could be gone, although they will have to carry dead money instead of just keeping a pretty solid player. Mongo could rotate to C, a better run blocker but less capable pass blocker. Boetger is a solid backup IMO. The key is Ford. Is he going to stay healthy and become the player they thought he was? Williams at RT really needs to be retained, adding to the stress of the situation. Maybe there are other Guards that they like at pick 62, and they can go either DL or CB at 30, but I can see the OL addressed in one of the first 2 picks. Im fine with this, but might also trade back a few slots too. Guards are going higher it seems, so not as sure a thing. Plenty of all pro gaurds drafted in later rounds, cough wyatt teller cough.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Joe: "For much of the game, the Chiefs were daring the Bills to run the ball on them. As the Bills rarely complied or went with heavy personnel, the Chiefs settled into using four defensive linemen, one linebacker and six defensive backs throughout the game, complete with successfully disguising coverages and blitzes before the snap to confuse Josh Allen. None of it would have been possible without the Chiefs defensive line, particularly the tackles, dominating the Bills offensive line the way they did." Before the Bills second possession: Attack the front, Daboll Very disappointing that the Chiefs gave the Bills exactly what they needed to keep Mahomes off the field and keep the game close, but he refused to take advantage of it. Right on the edge of qualifying as Dabollish. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Gugny said: I don't know how I can take anything he wrote seriously. Everyone knows that Ed Oliver is a bust and that we have no running game because our RBs are terrible. Word. The basis of this thread is faulty. Just draft a RB in the first round and nothing can stop us. I know it's right because I read it on TSW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: The only way we take a shot at a guy like this is if the owners find a way to keep the cap at $200 mil. Some quick cap analysis: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ We are about 6M over the cap right now with top 51. Rookies may be just a bit more expensive than the bottom players, so perhaps we are 8M over after rookies. Possible cap savings: L Smith 2M M Addison 6M J Brown 8M Q Jefferson 6.5M V Butler 7M Of those, perhaps Brown and Butler underperformed in 2020. In fact, for 2021, perhaps all of them project to underperform, given that there will be serviceable veterans available this year for a one year deals closer to league minimum. Those cuts would be enough to re-sign our three guys listed and maybe a couple other one-year fill in players. I suspect a couple one-year fill-ins will play an important role in the 2021 Bills. Possible re-signings: Milano Williams McKenzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Oliver was comfortably our best dlineman. That was obvious just from the TV angle. The flashes from Ed are of a guy with real outstanding talent. A guy who can be in that Chris Jones conversation as the second most disruptive interior lineman in the league after you know who. It is just consistency. Down in down out and game in game out. Brandon Beane said as much when he spoke to the media on Wednesday. If we can get that out of Ed he will be a difference maker. I think Oliver gets unwarranted criticism. The common complaints are that he's an average player who doesn't play anywhere near the expectation that should come with his draft position. That's not what I've seen, at all. When I watch him play, he's aggressive and disruptive. He finds his way into the backfield more often than not. And opposing DC's recognize how good he is, because he gets more double teams than anyone else on the Bills line. Put better players around him, and he'll really start to shine. He was a great pick, imo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Success said: I think Oliver gets unwarranted criticism. The common complaints are that he's an average player who doesn't play anywhere near the expectation that should come with his draft position. That's not what I've seen, at all. When I watch him play, he's aggressive and disruptive. He finds his way into the backfield more often than not. And opposing DC's recognize how good he is, because he gets more double teams than anyone else on the Bills line. Put better players around him, and he'll really start to shine. He was a great pick, imo. Right man 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, Simon said: Before the Bills second possession: Attack the front, Daboll Very disappointing that the Chiefs gave the Bills exactly what they needed to keep Mahomes off the field and keep the game close, but he refused to take advantage of it. Right on the edge of qualifying as Dabollish. it was seriously so obvious. People like to rip on Singletary. Maybe give the guy more than 5 carries before we see what he can do. Against that defense, if he committed to the run, we would have had success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: it was seriously so obvious. People like to rip on Singletary. Maybe give the guy more than 5 carries before we see what he can do. Against that defense, if he committed to the run, we would have had success. Should of ran more agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I think center is actually a top priority for the Bills this offseason. I read a while back that the Bills have scouting centers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 There are several interesting options at TE in the draft. I think Knox needs some competition at his position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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