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He is a FA, and he's a lot more appealing to me than Milano (who I also like). I don't think we'll get him, but man, did he blow up this season after a mediocre first three years (young talented players do get better!). He'd 12.5 sacks and finished 3rd in the league in tackles for a loss with 15. That's 27.5 negative yardage plays. He also had SIX forced fumbles and four passes defensed. He also runs a 4.52 40. My guess is that he gets north of $15 million per. One can dream. 

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So wait, we let Milano go because we can't afford to re-up him at $10M (or whatever he wants), in favor of a former #13 pick who kind of underperformed for 3 years, until his contract year?

 

Wouldn't that be the classic sort of "watch out" for a guy who pushed extra to get that big contract and might settle back to his mediocre ways?

 

 

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He's a very versatile player which is a trait that McBeane really love in their players. It's possible. Joe B dropped his name as a possible trade candidate back at the deadline. I doubt he had a scoop that said they are interested, it's more just him connecting the dots and looking at players that fit what Buffalo does. 

 

I expect more under-the-radar free agent signings since the cap is a little tighter for them this year. I could see guys like John Brown and Trent Murphy being let go to create some cap space if they have some FAs they really wanna go after. 

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Just now, blacklabel said:

He's a very versatile player which is a trait that McBeane really love in their players. It's possible. Joe B dropped his name as a possible trade candidate back at the deadline. I doubt he had a scoop that said they are interested, it's more just him connecting the dots and looking at players that fit what Buffalo does. 

 

I expect more under-the-radar free agent signings since the cap is a little tighter for them this year. I could see guys like John Brown and Trent Murphy being let go to create some cap space if they have some FAs they really wanna go after. 


The rumor was that he was a player on the Bills draft radar in 2017 so it would make sense.  

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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

So wait, we let Milano go because we can't afford to re-up him at $10M (or whatever he wants), in favor of a former #13 pick who kind of underperformed for 3 years, until his contract year?

 

Wouldn't that be the classic sort of "watch out" for a guy who pushed extra to get that big contract and might settle back to his mediocre ways?

 

 

He didn't move to OLB until the end of 2019. They had him playing inside prior to. 

https://www.azcardinals.com/news/living-on-the-edge-haason-reddick-finally-finds-his-home

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12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

So wait, we let Milano go because we can't afford to re-up him at $10M (or whatever he wants), in favor of a former #13 pick who kind of underperformed for 3 years, until his contract year?

 

Wouldn't that be the classic sort of "watch out" for a guy who pushed extra to get that big contract and might settle back to his mediocre ways?

 

 

I dunno. I think it's probably more a story of a talented player finally learning how to play the game and thus pushing himself to an elite level. Guys do actually improve with experience. Also, it's not as if he's out there chasing one final contract. 

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beware player who doesn't perform until their contract year. It's rarely a case of the 'lightbulb' going on against a case of, "If I really put in the work this 1 year then I'm set for life".

 

What about this guy says he's going to put that same work in year in and year out? What changed? 

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49 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

He was a ILB/OLB when he was drafted, and was moved to a situational edge rusher in a 3-4 because he couldnt play linebacker.   He cant play 4-3 defensive end because he is 6'1 235.   He offers nothing for the Bills. 

This.

 

Not sure why anyone would think he's versatile. He simply excelled at one role. If the Bills think they could use him on the edge, then fine, but it doesn't seem to be a scheme fit.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

This.

 

Not sure why anyone would think he's versatile. He simply excelled at one role. If the Bills think they could use him on the edge, then fine, but it doesn't seem to be a scheme fit.

 

 

Agreed.  From Beane's presser it seems like they want to get heavier along the line and Reddick doesnt fit that mold.  

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53 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

beware player who doesn't perform until their contract year. It's rarely a case of the 'lightbulb' going on against a case of, "If I really put in the work this 1 year then I'm set for life".

 

What about this guy says he's going to put that same work in year in and year out? What changed? 

He changed position, and turned out to be excellent at that new position. Whether he's versatile or not, he makes plays. I remember when GB let Paup go, and the word out of GB was that he was too "one-dimensional." After he tore up the league in 1995, I remember Ron Jaworski saying, "yeah, he's got one dimension, and that dimension is 'great.'"

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1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said:

beware player who doesn't perform until their contract year. It's rarely a case of the 'lightbulb' going on against a case of, "If I really put in the work this 1 year then I'm set for life".

 

What about this guy says he's going to put that same work in year in and year out? What changed? 

 

I agree with this.....be wary of the “Contract Warrior”!!

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I love his physicals.  
 

where would you play him?  
 

infeelmthat he’s great rushing the passer and making a living in the opposing backfield.

 

Considering our system, I don’t think we’d have the luxury of letting him do that.  He’d have to play OLB and he hasn’t been effective in coverage.  LBs in our system have to excel in coverage.  He has the speed....but he’s o me, he’s a 3-4 rush lb.  Considering how much we play nickel, he doesn’t fit in lorenzos old role as he’d be too expensive to play 50% of the snaps. 

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6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

He changed position, and turned out to be excellent at that new position. Whether he's versatile or not, he makes plays. I remember when GB let Paup go, and the word out of GB was that he was too "one-dimensional." After he tore up the league in 1995, I remember Ron Jaworski saying, "yeah, he's got one dimension, and that dimension is 'great.'"

But after Paup's great season the next 2 were pedestrian compared to that one especially with Bruce Smith and then the bIlls let him walk.  So I guess I don't know what the point your trying to make is.  He went from 17.5 to 6 to 9.5 to gone to JAX

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1 hour ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said:

No Thanks, his last season is the only good season he had.  If he had more  seasons of consistency then maybe.  He only had 7.5 sack the first 3 years of his career

 

 

It's not so much of a good season as it is one game. He had 5 sacks against a Giants team that was forced to put Colt McCoy in. He's an undersized played that has disappointed, and paying him big money in a contract year based on his performance in a contract year is the definition of Fool's Gold in today's NFL. 

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1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

I dunno. I think it's probably more a story of a talented player finally learning how to play the game and thus pushing himself to an elite level. Guys do actually improve with experience. Also, it's not as if he's out there chasing one final contract. 

 

I understand, and agree with you, that players do improve and there may be other factors (position changes and scheme changes)

On the other hand....guys actually do push themselves and play above their level when they're looking for that first big payday.

 

It's a risk, in a cap strapped year.

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28 minutes ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said:

But after Paup's great season the next 2 were pedestrian compared to that one especially with Bruce Smith and then the bIlls let him walk.  So I guess I don't know what the point your trying to make is.  He went from 17.5 to 6 to 9.5 to gone to JAX

He was only pedestrian because he tore his groin in the sixth game of the 1996 season. He was never the same again. He was dominating for the first 6 games of 1996. It was injury, not one-dimensionality, that brought him down.

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4 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

I dunno. I think it's probably more a story of a talented player finally learning how to play the game and thus pushing himself to an elite level. Guys do actually improve with experience. Also, it's not as if he's out there chasing one final contract. 

He’s Shaq Lawson west. Pass.

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5 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

He is a FA, and he's a lot more appealing to me than Milano (who I also like). I don't think we'll get him, but man, did he blow up this season after a mediocre first three years (young talented players do get better!). He'd 12.5 sacks and finished 3rd in the league in tackles for a loss with 15. That's 27.5 negative yardage plays. He also had SIX forced fumbles and four passes defensed. He also runs a 4.52 40. My guess is that he gets north of $15 million per. One can dream. 

He played 3-4 outside backer for the Cards this season.  Totally different than Will LB (Milanos spot) in our defensive scheme.

 

If we had him on the team, which i doubt happens, it would be at defensive end...which is where he played at Temple but was undersized according to NFL standards to be a 4-3 end.  Just don't think he's a fit for us, great player though i agree with that

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13 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Seems like something the Bills could try with 49

Something with Tremaine just looks off.  I mean its like he 2nd-guesses himself and overthinks way too much.  Kid will become a star when he just plays with his natural instincts.  

 

I agree, if switching to the Will LB spot take more off his plate and allows him to play more "free" then I'm all.for it. 

 

However these coaches need to figure it out, bc they basically took a corvette and swapped it for a safe Volvo.

 

I get the sense they've done this with Ed Oliver, then trying to tweak Aj Epenesa weight prior to the season...these are 3 men who were beasts in college, athletically super talented and playing them in a way that resembles Chris Kelsays athletic prowess.

 

Not all on the coaches, I get it, but just feels like we have a scheme that is not playing to our strengths and if allowed.to be more aggressive, could produce better

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25 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Something with Tremaine just looks off.  I mean its like he 2nd-guesses himself and overthinks way too much.  Kid will become a star when he just plays with his natural instincts.  

 

I agree, if switching to the Will LB spot take more off his plate and allows him to play more "free" then I'm all.for it. 

 

However these coaches need to figure it out, bc they basically took a corvette and swapped it for a safe Volvo.

 

I get the sense they've done this with Ed Oliver, then trying to tweak Aj Epenesa weight prior to the season...these are 3 men who were beasts in college, athletically super talented and playing them in a way that resembles Chris Kelsays athletic prowess.

 

Not all on the coaches, I get it, but just feels like we have a scheme that is not playing to our strengths and if allowed.to be more aggressive, could produce better

@MAJBobby in his analyses nailed it I think: Edmunds doesn’t guess because his physical talent is so freakish that he doesn’t think he has to. It had always worked for him before because he was more athletic than anyone else on the field. Hence he plays in a reactive way because he has been hardwired to think he can catch up, but in the nfl that effectively means that he plays tentatively. If he guessed and attacked more, there would be more bigger plays (and more misses, but that’s possibly a price worth paying). He has to learn not to be reactive and trust in his superior physical talent because everyone is good in the nfl. @MAJBobby surmised that AJ Klein’s improvement stems almost entirely from him resorting to guessing, which makes sense to me.

4 hours ago, QCity said:

 

 

It's not so much of a good season as it is one game. He had 5 sacks against a Giants team that was forced to put Colt McCoy in. He's an undersized played that has disappointed, and paying him big money in a contract year based on his performance in a contract year is the definition of Fool's Gold in today's NFL. 

Let’s say he has a very good game (3 sacks) as opposed to a ridiculous game. 10.5 sacks is still more than any Bill since Mario Williams.

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He would be an interesting pickup as he could actually fill the Lorenzo role who we seemed to miss this year. He could be a fit if we got a bit more aggressive on defense, but to me he is a more of a 3-4 player.
 

I’m guessing he goes to Carolin to play for Matt Rhule

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On 1/28/2021 at 11:32 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

So wait, we let Milano go because we can't afford to re-up him at $10M (or whatever he wants), in favor of a former #13 pick who kind of underperformed for 3 years, until his contract year?

 

Wouldn't that be the classic sort of "watch out" for a guy who pushed extra to get that big contract and might settle back to his mediocre ways?

 

 

Marcel Dareus agrees with this message. 

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On 1/28/2021 at 8:07 PM, thenorthremembers said:

He was a ILB/OLB when he was drafted, and was moved to a situational edge rusher in a 3-4 because he couldnt play linebacker.   He cant play 4-3 defensive end because he is 6'1 235.   He offers nothing for the Bills. 

 

This. Not a scheme fit. Has to play as a pass rushing OLB in a 3-4. 

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On 1/28/2021 at 2:31 PM, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said:

No Thanks, his last season is the only good season he had.  If he had more  seasons of consistency then maybe.  He only had 7.5 sack the first 3 years of his career

Or the highly drafted player who was playing out of position finally hit his stride and is ready to live up to his draft status, like Jerry Hughes.

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