blacklabel Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Apologies if there have been other similar threads. As it stands right now, the Jets, Falcons, and Jaguars have all named new head coaches while the Chargers, Lions, and Texans are still searching. Although, last I saw it appears that Dan Campbell is the front-runner for the Lions gig. Brian Daboll interviewed with the Chargers and Jets and to our knowledge hasn't had a second interview with either team. The possibility still remains that he could leave Buffalo for a head coaching job elsewhere. Much discussion has taken place about who could possibly replace Daboll if he leaves. QB coach Ken Dorsey is a popular answer but he's never called plays at the NFL level. Some think they should promote from within but I don't think anyone would get too fussy if they hired outside the franchise. One name I haven't seen mentioned as a possible replacement for Daboll is tight ends coach Rob Boras. Now, this is not me advocating for Boras to become the OC. I just wanted to see how people react to the notion. Boras has coached tight ends nearly his entire career, having been hired by the Bears in 2004 after 11 years of coaching in college, including a one-year head coaching stint at Benedictine in '98 as well as two seasons as offensive coordinator at UNLV. Boras was with Chicago though 2009 and then joined Jacksonville to coach their TE's for two seasons before being hired by Jeff Fisher in St. Louis. He coached TE's until 2015 when he was named the assistant head coach as well as the interim offensive coordinator. He was promoted to full time OC and assistant HC in 2016. He was let go following the season and quickly found work with the Bills in 2017. As the OC for the Rams his offenses finished near the bottom of the league but he was also confined to Jeff Fisher's genius offensive philosophy of "please run it 499 times" as well as a lack of solid offensive weapons. He's been with Buffalo for four seasons now and since he's arrived, the Bills have made much more use out of their TE's than they have in years past. Dawson Knox shows plenty of promise and I believe he will put it all together. I also think they have something in Tom Sweeney, I'm interested to see him get a chance next year. McDermott seems to trust him and seems satisfied with the job Boras has done. Would that be enough for McDermott to consider him if he has to replace Daboll? I wouldn't be surprised if his name comes up but I would be surprised if they give the job to Boras. Personally, I think Dorsey makes a lot of sense. He's been here through Josh's growth and development, he knows the system, he knows what Josh prefers, he knows what he likes in certain situations. As I said above, I think the inexperience with play calling would give me some hesitation in giving Dorsey the OC job. And on one more personal note, I'd be happy for Daboll if he lands a HC job but I really want him to stay here and keep building this thing. Who would you guys like to see as OC if Daboll is hired as a HC somewhere else? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Ask me after the Parade down Delaware Ave. 10 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On top of the maybe 3 other threads asking the same thing, my only comment would be three positions have now filled, and one other, Detroit rumored to be close to filling, the chances drop down for Daboll. Still have Chargers and Houston left, but the opening for both HC and GM are dropping. In addition there probably are couple of other names still out there considered better ones too. Now that Brian Schottenheimer is no longer employed, I wonder if he'd even be in the running for a HC job, admittedly not the best thing on your resume that you fired from last job. Well hopefully will get this in before thread is shut down! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Now that Brian Schottenheimer is no longer employed, I wonder if he'd even be in the running for a HC job, admittedly not the best thing on your resume that you fired from last job. Definitely not the best thing, but Kliff Kingsbury was fired from being a college HC and only got interest as an OC in CFB. Then all of a sudden AZ was hot on his trail. It only takes one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, blacklabel said: One name I haven't seen mentioned as a possible replacement for Daboll is tight ends coach Rob Boras. I mean our TEs are the talk of the town. 🙄 Edited January 15, 2021 by Warcodered 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean our TEs are the talk of the town. 🙄 LOL..for all the wrong reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 21 minutes ago, blacklabel said: Apologies if there have been other similar threads. As it stands right now, the Jets, Falcons, and Jaguars have all named new head coaches while the Chargers, Lions, and Texans are still searching. Although, last I saw it appears that Dan Campbell is the front-runner for the Lions gig. Brian Daboll interviewed with the Chargers and Jets and to our knowledge hasn't had a second interview with either team. The possibility still remains that he could leave Buffalo for a head coaching job elsewhere. Much discussion has taken place about who could possibly replace Daboll if he leaves. QB coach Ken Dorsey is a popular answer but he's never called plays at the NFL level. Some think they should promote from within but I don't think anyone would get too fussy if they hired outside the franchise. One name I haven't seen mentioned as a possible replacement for Daboll is tight ends coach Rob Boras. Now, this is not me advocating for Boras to become the OC. I just wanted to see how people react to the notion. Boras has coached tight ends nearly his entire career, having been hired by the Bears in 2004 after 11 years of coaching in college, including a one-year head coaching stint at Benedictine in '98 as well as two seasons as offensive coordinator at UNLV. Boras was with Chicago though 2009 and then joined Jacksonville to coach their TE's for two seasons before being hired by Jeff Fisher in St. Louis. He coached TE's until 2015 when he was named the assistant head coach as well as the interim offensive coordinator. He was promoted to full time OC and assistant HC in 2016. He was let go following the season and quickly found work with the Bills in 2017. As the OC for the Rams his offenses finished near the bottom of the league but he was also confined to Jeff Fisher's genius offensive philosophy of "please run it 499 times" as well as a lack of solid offensive weapons. He's been with Buffalo for four seasons now and since he's arrived, the Bills have made much more use out of their TE's than they have in years past. Dawson Knox shows plenty of promise and I believe he will put it all together. I also think they have something in Tom Sweeney, I'm interested to see him get a chance next year. McDermott seems to trust him and seems satisfied with the job Boras has done. Would that be enough for McDermott to consider him if he has to replace Daboll? I wouldn't be surprised if his name comes up but I would be surprised if they give the job to Boras. Personally, I think Dorsey makes a lot of sense. He's been here through Josh's growth and development, he knows the system, he knows what Josh prefers, he knows what he likes in certain situations. As I said above, I think the inexperience with play calling would give me some hesitation in giving Dorsey the OC job. And on one more personal note, I'd be happy for Daboll if he lands a HC job but I really want him to stay here and keep building this thing. Who would you guys like to see as OC if Daboll is hired as a HC somewhere else? big no to boras. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Eagles Texans Lions: Looks like Dan Campbell Chargers Bienemy is getting one of the 3 left. Edited January 15, 2021 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I for one would hope that McD and Beane would give Dorsey first dibs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Daboll to the Chargers seems like a foregone conclusion at this point. Probably either Dorsey or dark horse would be Chad Hall...he is considered a rising star. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Dorsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) When you've accomplished what we have as an offense and with the talent we have, the Bills OC position becomes the most coveted OC job in the league. Because the HC is a DC by trade. I don't think it's necessary to just promote from within. McD is going to have a stack of resumes to go thru. Edited January 15, 2021 by Big Blitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Daboll to the Chargers seems like a foregone conclusion at this point. Probably either Dorsey or dark horse would be Chad Hall...he is considered a rising star. The wide receiver room thinks the world of Chad Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, BITE ME said: Ask me after the Parade down Delaware Ave. There's not going to be a parade. They will hold a celebration at the stadium with 6,700 in attendance. The celebration will be televised live in Buffalo & streamed on the Bills website. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Honestly don't care. He's still our OC and we have a playoff game tmrw. Live in the now bro, or you'll miss your life. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 So curious about a potential Dorsey vs Hall decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: On top of the maybe 3 other threads asking the same thing, my only comment would be three positions have now filled, and one other, Detroit rumored to be close to filling, the chances drop down for Daboll. Still have Chargers and Houston left, but the opening for both HC and GM are dropping. In addition there probably are couple of other names still out there considered better ones too. Now that Brian Schottenheimer is no longer employed, I wonder if he'd even be in the running for a HC job, admittedly not the best thing on your resume that you fired from last job. Well hopefully will get this in before thread is shut down! HC and coordinators get fired every year so that can’t be much of a draw back... you are right in which opening are closing quickly. Edited January 15, 2021 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 It’s tough to guess. I have to think if Daboll is leaving he’s taking some guys with him. I prefer to look outside the box. Especially given our experienced offense now. Mike Kafka, former quarterback and on Andy Reid’s staff. Probably taking Bienemys job so we’d have to offer ours first if he’d even want it. Dirk Koetter.. Obviously he flunked as a head coach but he’s coordinated some good offenses and is heavy on the pass schemes. Bill Callahan wouldn’t be a splashy hire but the guy is definitely an offensive line genius and has plenty of experience. I would want to avoid Pederson and Gase but that’s just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 It sounds like you are trying to get Boras out of any OC conversation. Nothing very positive in your bio of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: On top of the maybe 3 other threads asking the same thing, my only comment would be three positions have now filled, and one other, Detroit rumored to be close to filling, the chances drop down for Daboll. Still have Chargers and Houston left, but the opening for both HC and GM are dropping. In addition there probably are couple of other names still out there considered better ones too. Now that Brian Schottenheimer is no longer employed, I wonder if he'd even be in the running for a HC job, admittedly not the best thing on your resume that you fired from last job. Well hopefully will get this in before thread is shut down! When somebody puts that much time into a post, I don't love the idea of burying it in an inactive thread that was started 4-5 days ago, so I'm not likely to shut it down (at least anytime soon). As for your point, I'd guess the Chargers job belongs to Daboll if he wants it. The longer they go without hiring somebody while the Bills are still alive, I think the chances of him getting the job ,ight actually increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Chad Hall or Ken Dorsey are the in-house candidates, if the Bills want to minimize change. Neither Of them have any direct connection to Daboll. The Bills OC job would be the most coveted in the league, though, so we might have some interesting outside candidates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Cringe, but Mike Shula has a history with McBeane. He's currently a QB coach, so would be tough to block him from a coordinator's job interview. He did coach Cam to a Superbowl, and Josh is a smarter Cam with a better arm. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Cringe, but Mike Shula has a history with McBeane. He's currently a QB coach, so would be tough to block him from a coordinator's job interview. He did coach Cam to a Superbowl, and Josh is a smarter Cam with a better arm. Just saying. Wrong, the only position a coach can't be blocked from is HC. The NFL doesn't designate a difference between coordinate or positional coach. Edited January 16, 2021 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Wrong, the only position a coach can't be blocked from is HC. The NFL doesn't designate a difference between coordinate or positional coach. Not according to this. https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-teams-can-no-longer-block-assistant-coaches-from-interviewing-for-coordinator-positions-191317600.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Not according to this. https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-teams-can-no-longer-block-assistant-coaches-from-interviewing-for-coordinator-positions-191317600.html I stand corrected, I didn't know they changed the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just thinking he's a very experienced OC and worked wonders with Cam, and has a history with McBeane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Just thinking he's a very experienced OC and worked wonders with Cam, and has a history with McBeane. No thanks to Shula. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27yanks Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, BITE ME said: Ask me after the Parade down Delaware Ave. Amen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I'm having vuja de.....the feeling like I've never seen this topic before. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: HC and coordinators get fired every year so that can’t be much of a draw back... you are right in which opening are closing quickly. True, but don't think it's too common for a coordinator to get fired then get hired the same off season for a HC position. As one other poster stated Kingsbury did that, but they are few and far between. Usually need some time to build your resume back up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 OP I get the interest In the topic but we have a game tomorrow. can we concentrate on that? Its bad enough after tomorrows game they going to have to take a close look at my heart.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: OP I get the interest In the topic but we have a game tomorrow. can we concentrate on that? Its bad enough after tomorrows game they going to have to take a close look at my heart.. lol We’re not playing. Our concentration has no effect on tomorrow’s outcome. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I just hope Daboll Doesn’t want to move his family to the disaster that is Los Angeles, California and wants to stay in his hometown.... wishful thinking I know.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Ken Dorsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bangarang said: We’re not playing. Our concentration has no effect on tomorrow’s outcome. BANGARANG! good point. I guess I don't care till post-season is over. that's on me not you guys lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I stand corrected, I didn't know they changed the rule. Yea changed last summer. This is the first hiring season of the new rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 If they go within, it has to be Dorsey. Rob Boras does have OC experience, but Dorsey makes more sense. Outside you have to look at E-P guys, Mike McCoy, Mike Shula, Chad O’Shea, George Godsey or..gulp..Adam Gase. Darkhorse, Rob Chudzinzki. At the end of the day, I think its Dorsey. Outside of Dorsey, I think McCoy makes the most sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: If they go within, it has to be Dorsey. Rob Boras does have OC experience, but Dorsey makes more sense. Outside you have to look at E-P guys, Mike McCoy, Mike Shula, Chad O’Shea, George Godsey or..gulp..Adam Gase. Darkhorse, Rob Chudzinzki. At the end of the day, I think its Dorsey. Outside of Dorsey, I think McCoy makes the most sense. Adam Gase... you cant be serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I’m not completely smitten about my current job.. I’ll do it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck204 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 What about Pep Hamilton as an outside the organization hire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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