OnTheRocks Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 If Daboll takes a head coaching job, who is he most likely to take with him currently on the Bill Staff? Does Dorsey get the first look at the OC position? Or does he move with Daboll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Ken Dorsey or Chad Hall. I wouldn't be surprised if either of the two get promoted to OC. I would be surprised if the Bills went outside of the organization to fill the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, OnTheRocks said: If Daboll takes a head coaching job, who is he most likely to take with him currently on the Bill Staff? Does Dorsey get the first look at the OC position? Or does he move with Daboll? Chad Hall is a rising star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, OnTheRocks said: If Daboll takes a head coaching job, who is he most likely to take with him currently on the Bill Staff? Does Dorsey get the first look at the OC position? Or does he move with Daboll? I’ve heard WRs coach, Chad Hall’s name mentioned along with Dorsey for internal candidates for OC if Daboll leaves. Seems like the players really love Hall, but I expect Dorsey would be first in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, OnTheRocks said: If Daboll takes a head coaching job, who is he most likely to take with him currently on the Bill Staff? Does Dorsey get the first look at the OC position? Or does he move with Daboll? It’s not a given he’ll take anyone. He’s been in the business a long time his connections reach out much farther than Buffalo. He can reward some of his current buffalo guys as they have a chance to move up replacing him, while also possibly reaching out to other connections and helping them get jobs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I think Dorsey is probably the favorite. Hall has only been a position coach for a season or two. As far as guys Daboll would take: the only guy that has a real tie to him is Ryan Wendell. I'd imagine Daboll would be the playcaller, so he's probably going to be looking for teacher types and guys he has history with to start and maybe a previous HC. Lots of former Pats coaches will be out there with the firings in Houston and Detroit so I think those would be obvious targets for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Not a Bills concern but I was told a month ago he was trying to line up Matt Patricia as his defensive coordinator. Chad O'Shea was the other name I heard. Not sure if that was for OC or a position coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Magox said: Ken Dorsey or Chad Hall. I wouldn't be surprised if either of the two get promoted to OC. I would be surprised if the Bills went outside of the organization to fill the role. Well.. Chad Hall doesn’t have a whole lot of experience.. He’s a great WR coach but I don’t see him as being anywhere near ready for that much responsibility.. Dorsey may be the next in line.. With that said, Buffalo boasts a top 5 QB in this league.. Very, very talented offensive minds would love to work with Allen.. What a cush job.. We should be able to hire just about anyone to fill that OC spot.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 It’s all going to depend on the situation. If you were Hall or Dorsey and got offered the OC by McDermott would you leave? Dabolls has been working as an assistant coach for over 20 years, I’m sure he has a list ready for guys he wants to work with if he gets the HC gig someplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: Not a Bills concern but I was told a month ago he was trying to line up Matt Patricia as his defensive coordinator. Chad O'Shea was the other name I heard. Not sure if that was for OC or a position coach. Makes alot of sense. He interviewed last year so he has a list of coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Not a Bills concern but I was told a month ago he was trying to line up Matt Patricia as his defensive coordinator. Chad O'Shea was the other name I heard. Not sure if that was for OC or a position coach. Patricia makes a lot of sense, as they know each other well from pats days. Depends if Patricia wants to work again so soon...as he is likely collecting a couple of more years of pay from the Lions for not working. He would be working for nothing......but most of these coaches would rather be at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Most of the staff in buffalo I believe would stay - maybe all get a little bit of a raise but there is no reason to move with daboll Although if daboll is smart he isn't calling plays as a head coach 4 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Patricia makes a lot of sense, as they know each other well from pats days. Depends if Patricia wants to work again so soon...as he is likely collecting a couple of more years of pay from the Lions for not working. He would be working for nothing......but most of these coaches would rather be at work. Thats a good point I guess it depends if Patricia wants to be a head coach again or is content with being a coordinator Head coach he should get right back in, coordinator take a year off enjoy life and your money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 34 minutes ago, OnTheRocks said: If Daboll takes a head coaching job, who is he most likely to take with him currently on the Bill Staff? Does Dorsey get the first look at the OC position? Or does he move with Daboll? Bear in mind that most of the assistants are still under contract to the Bills. It would not be Daboll's option, but the Bills option if they stay or go. 13 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I guess it depends if Patricia wants to be a head coach again or is content with being a coordinator Head coach he should get right back in, coordinator take a year off enjoy life and your money A number of HC who failed in their first stint have said the most valuable thing for them, in hindsight, was to take a year off and self-assess/regroup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 26 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said: I think Dorsey is probably the favorite. Hall has only been a position coach for a season or two. As far as guys Daboll would take: the only guy that has a real tie to him is Ryan Wendell. I'd imagine Daboll would be the playcaller, so he's probably going to be looking for teacher types and guys he has history with to start and maybe a previous HC. Lots of former Pats coaches will be out there with the firings in Houston and Detroit so I think those would be obvious targets for him. Yeah Ken Dorsey seems the odds on favorite, Chad Hall definitely seems like a rising guy though most of his talk I think is coming from the fact that his WRs bought him a ***** truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Bills need to back up the brinks truck to Daboll and give him $8M for the next two years. and give him the “assistant head coach” title Edited January 4, 2021 by iccrewman112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said: I think Dorsey is probably the favorite. Hall has only been a position coach for a season or two. As far as guys Daboll would take: the only guy that has a real tie to him is Ryan Wendell. I'd imagine Daboll would be the playcaller, so he's probably going to be looking for teacher types and guys he has history with to start and maybe a previous HC. Lots of former Pats coaches will be out there with the firings in Houston and Detroit so I think those would be obvious targets for him. I always like to look at it as who they've worked with in the past. Jim Bob Cooter comes to mind as a former OC. Chad O'Shea worked with him in NE for years. Dan Campbell is another. All 3 would be looking to improve their positioning at HC jobs in the future. Taking dorsey would be a challenge - assuming Dorsey has been promised the job here it goes from Allen/Diggs and playcalling to - ??? and not calling plays... Which sets you up better to be a future HC? I could see Crennel as DC assuming Daboll doesn't end up in Houston. Other options might be babich or washington from Buffalo. Matt Patricia could also get a look there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: Bills need to back up the brinks truck to Daboll and give him $8M for the next two years. and give him the “assistant head coach” title He can make more than that and be a head coach elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 57 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Not a Bills concern but I was told a month ago he was trying to line up Matt Patricia as his defensive coordinator. Chad O'Shea was the other name I heard. Not sure if that was for OC or a position coach. These are the exact two guys I would imagine he'd go after. He and Patricia have a ton of history together, and O'Shea has a lot of knowledge of the Erhardt Perkins offense. Seems like I havent seen Daboll tied to a lot of jobs yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Well the one job I thought he would take has opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 The Bills can block any assistant moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I'm not sure anyone would want to go with him necessarily. Nothing against Daboll, but if you could be the OC of the Bills, or the OC of another team, you'd rather stay here I'd imagine. That said, the person who does not get the OC job here may go with him (Dorsey or Hall). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Daboll really didn’t hire his own offensive staff here. McDermott made most of the hires. I think Daboll brought in like 2 lower level guys or something like that iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Two pages in an no Freddie Kitchens love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Not for anything here but one thing that may play a factor for Daball is that he is from this area, he loves the area and had been waiting for an opportunity that allowed him to come back to the area. While i may be reaching here, he may not want to leave. Just a thought. Plus Sean McD. could promote him to Assistant Head Coach like they did when they hired Fraiser. He is the Defensive Coordinator but doesn't he have the title of D Coordinator\Assistant Head Coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Well the one job I thought he would take has opened. GM is a st francis grad too right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 He brought Shea Tierney with him from Alabama, I wouldn't be shocked if he goes with Daboll maybe to be a full time QB coach. Just now, Cheektowaga Chad said: GM is a st francis grad too right? Yeah their GM, Tom Telesco is from Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I don’t think daboll leaves if we don’t win the super bowl. He’s a buffalo guy and has won everywhere he has been. But home town winner will be his choice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 This one is really interesting. If they go with one of the hot OCs it’ll feel like one of the more recent fads of pairing a good OC as Head Coach with a young QB. I just don’t think this works as much as people want to think it does. A head coach just doesn’t have time to mentor one player unless he picks good assistant coaches. But then it seems like when things start to falter a bit the HC takes over. I guess we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, Doc said: The Bills can block any assistant moves. They can but they probably won’t. McD isn’t the type. Plus it’s a selling point to other good coaches that you can come to Buffalo and get an opportunity to be a HC at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Whats everyones confidence level with anyone besides Daboll? I've heard good things about Dorsey and Hall but neither has called plays before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, Bangarang said: They can but they probably won’t. McD isn’t the type. Plus it’s a selling point to other good coaches that you can come to Buffalo and get an opportunity to be a HC at some point. Hall joined the Bills as an offensive assistant in 2017 and was promoted last year. Since McD hired him and Diggs has said he's the best WR coach he's ever had, I think he'll keep him. Dorsey they may let leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: The Bills can block any assistant moves. Yep so long as guys are under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, OnTheRocks said: If Daboll takes a head coaching job, who is he most likely to take with him currently on the Bill Staff? Does Dorsey get the first look at the OC position? Or does he move with Daboll? Guessing Daboll goes to the Chargers so anyone on the staff with West Coast ties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) If Daboll leaves, and they dont hire Dorsey one guy to watch would be Darrell Bevell. Going to be available, and has a pretty decent track record as an OC. To top it off he had a 4 year stretch with Frazier in Minnesota. Edited January 4, 2021 by thenorthremembers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 48 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said: Whats everyones confidence level with anyone besides Daboll? I've heard good things about Dorsey and Hall but neither has called plays before. IF and that is a IF Daboll decides THIS is the year I move on and take that HC job the Bills OC position he leaves open will be about the #1 desired spot for any current OC looking for a job or any "up and coming" OC in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: He can make more than that and be a head coach elsewhere when pay him $2M more than the head coach offer. and have the PR assemble some video montage with his family being from Buffalo. 40 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: If Daboll leaves, and they dont hire Dorsey one guy to watch would be Darrell Bevell. Going to be available, and has a pretty decent track record as an OC. To top it off he had a 4 year stretch with Frazier in Minnesota. Isn’t Bevell the guy who choose to not give the ball to Marshawn Lynch from the 1 yard line, against the Pats in the Super Bowl??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, bigK14094 said: Patricia makes a lot of sense, as they know each other well from pats days. Depends if Patricia wants to work again so soon...as he is likely collecting a couple of more years of pay from the Lions for not working. He would be working for nothing......but most of these coaches would rather be at work. That is not usually how it works. They want to keep working and stay visible. I suspect most have an offset clause so they are not fully double dipping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, iccrewman112 said: when pay him $2M more than the head coach offer. and have the PR assemble some video montage with his family being from Buffalo. Isn’t Bevell the guy who choose to not give the ball to Marshawn Lynch from the 1 yard line, against the Pats in the Super Bowl??? Pass first Coordinator. Perfect! Yes, but to be fair he has done a lot more than that in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Anyone know what Mike McCoy is doing these days? lol Edited January 4, 2021 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Need to bring in someone from the outside. This team doesn't have the experience necessary currently on staff. Ken Dorsey - Absolutely not. The guy has zero experience calling plays or drawing up plays. It takes a lot more than just calling plays that Daboll put in. You have to constantly adapt. Chad Hall - This can't be serious. The guy is 2 years removed from being pretty much an intern. Talk about a disaster waiting to happen promoting a guy that has so little experience. You have the most attractive position in football right now, you need to bring in some creative with designs. Couple names: Jeff Lebby Shane Waldron Shane Steichen My perference would be Lebby. A ton of experience with extremely successful offense and really creative calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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