WR Kenny Stills said to be visiting Buffalo (no confirmation he signed)

[wjag]

Liked him when he played for the Phins. Lost track of him on the Texans.  Could be a deep threat decoy to open routes for others.  

Edited December 30, 2020 by wjag

[JoshAllenReceipts]

Excellent move.

 

Gabe Davis is awful. Never gets open unless it's a blown coverage. He creates zero separation vs man coverage. The fumble and the lack of effort vs the Pats was the cherry on top. Can't trust this bad rookie in playoff games.

 

Stills is a huge upgrade as an outside WR over Davis.

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

The most critical aspect of this, is that there isn’t a single number between 10-19 available... which means he’ll be in the 80’s by default which will automatically make him our best reciever!

This is your thing now. I respect it. 

[whatdrought]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

This is your thing now. I respect it. 

It is. It always has been. I think it’s @Logic that’s there with me on it.

 

Kumerow looked so sweet in 87. 
 

I’d love 81 for Stills, but I guess that’s Kroft. Maybe 83?

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

Excellent move.

 

Gabe Davis is awful. Never gets open unless it's a blown coverage. He creates zero separation vs man coverage. The fumble and the lack of effort vs the Pats was the cherry on top. Can't trust this bad rookie in playoff games.

 

Stills is a huge upgrade as an outside WR over Davis.

Really can’t trust Davis. He’s been decent as a rookie but only if he’s schemed wide open. Did have that nice TD catch vs Miami. But he’s no go to guy. 

1 minute ago, whatdrought said:

It is. It always has been. I think it’s @Logic that’s there with me on it.

 

Kumerow looked so sweet in 87. 
 

I’d love 81 for Stills, but I guess that’s Kroft. Maybe 83?

That’s rare territory ... not retired? I know Lee wore it too. Probably should be retired for Reed. 

Edited December 30, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

Excellent move.

 

Gabe Davis is awful. Never gets open unless it's a blown coverage. He creates zero separation vs man coverage. The fumble and the lack of effort vs the Pats was the cherry on top. Can't trust this bad rookie in playoff games.

 

Stills is a huge upgrade as an outside WR over Davis.

 

Umm...you don't watch games much do you?

[JoshAllenReceipts]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Umm...you don't watch games much do you?

 

 

Read the post directly above yours, agreeing with what I said.

 

YOU don't watch the games. Gabe Davis is the weakest link on the Bills offense. 

Edited December 30, 2020 by JoshAllenReceipts

[MAJBobby]

This is about adding a player that can greatly add do WR Depth as well as ST and speed. 
 

this is about a run to the SuperBowl. Get weapons that’s help that run. If this signing happens I love it. 

[gobills404]

Just now, JoshAllenReceipts said:

 

 

Read the post directly above yours.

 

YOU don't watch the games. Gabe Davis is the weakest link on the Bills offense.

Did we get a new tight end?

[Rc2catch]

3 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

 

 

Read the post directly above yours.

 

YOU don't watch the games. Gabe Davis is the weakest link on the Bills offense.

He should be the weakest link..  Lol he’s supposed to be the 5th option in the offense. Stills was the 4th-5th option in Houston. 

[JoshAllenReceipts]

1 minute ago, gobills404 said:

Did we get a new tight end?

 

You realize that Gave Davis creates 0 separation and struggles to get open, right? 

 

He is also a rookie, and was the worst player on the field against the Pats.

Just now, Rc2catch said:

He should be the weakest link..  Lol he’s supposed to be the 5th option in the offense. Stills was the 4th-5th option in Houston. 

 

Right...and Stills is a better WR than Davis.

 

Stills >>> Davis.

 

This is obvious. Why are we even arguing this?

[Magox]

It’s just about making your team better.   Does adding Stills make this is a better team?  I think it does.

[Buddo]

We could just view this as another aspect of the 'continuous improvement' mantra.

 

Does Stills make our roster better?

 

Very probably.

 

Make the move.

1 minute ago, Magox said:

It’s just about making your team better.   Does adding Stills make this is a better team?  I think it does.

 

Beat me to it.

 

Half of the problem is that we are so used to second guessing moves, we might not see the bit that is right in front of us.

 

While much of what has been discussed has validity, I would still say that when the decision gets made, 'does he make our roster better' will be very high on the list.

[Rc2catch]

1 minute ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

 

 

Right...and Stills is a better WR than Davis.

 

Stills >>> Davis.

 

This is obvious. Why are we even arguing this?

I would hope so. He’s a vet and this is his 4th team now I think. He should be more seasoned than a rookie. Point was Stills is not that good that’s why he doesn’t stick places. Davis has as good of stats almost as Stills has ever had in his rookie year. 
I’m happy for the signing and emergency depth. He can be a useful deep threat or decoy but I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t see a playoff snap either even if we have injuries 

[YoloinOhio]

16 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Umm...you don't watch games much do you?

Don’t get me wrong, I like Davis’s potential and he’s exceeded my expectations as a 4th round rookie this year but I think he benefits from the coverage the other guys draw. If the bills are left with him all of a sudden as WR2 I think the whole passing game will be negatively impacted. Maybe he becomes that in time but right now he’s most effective as WR 4 and the Bills are adding insurance to make sure it stays that way 

[JoshAllenReceipts]

Just now, Rc2catch said:

I would hope so. He’s a vet and this is his 4th team now I think. He should be more seasoned than a rookie. Point was Stills is not that good that’s why he doesn’t stick places. Davis has as good of stats almost as Stills has ever had in his rookie year. 
I’m happy for the signing and emergency depth. He can be a useful deep threat or decoy but I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t see a playoff snap either even if we have injuries 

 

 

Davis has his numbers because he's an afterthought for opposing defenses. He is left 1on1 the whole game. Nobody is worried about Davis. Davis puts up numbers simply because he plays so many snaps in an elite Passing Offense. Any WR left 1on1 as often as Davis in THIS particular offense is going to put up some numbers. It doesn't make him good, or impactful. 

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Don’t get me wrong, I like Davis’s potential and he’s exceeded my expectations as a 4th round rookie this year but I think he benefits from the coverage the other guys draw. If the bills are left with him all of a sudden as WR2 I think the whole passing game will be negatively impacted. Maybe he becomes that in time but right now he’s most effective as WR 4 and the Bills are adding insurance to make sure it stays that way 

 

 

+1

 

Perfectly stated.

[Back2Buff]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Don’t get me wrong, I like Davis’s potential and he’s exceeded my expectations as a 4th round rookie this year but I think he benefits from the coverage the other guys draw. If the bills are left with him all of a sudden as WR2 I think the whole passing game will be negatively impacted. Maybe he becomes that in time but right now he’s most effective as WR 4 and the Bills are adding insurance to make sure it stays that way 

 

I said this months ago when Brown went out.  Davis just doesn't do much on the outside.  All his damage is done when he can play from the slot and get lost with a crowd of people and end up wide open.  He's just not very shifty or a good route runner.

[MAJBobby]

Diggs, Brown, Stills (slot) 

 

is just as Dangerous as Diggs, Brown and Beasley in the slot. 
 

a different dangerous but still dangerous. 
 

you have the route runner Diggs. And now add a different element of Speed in the slot. I really like it. And think Stills will bring major value in the playoffs and future (if it is more than a 1 year deal). 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

A veteran WR with some timed speed and some youth left (28 years old).

 

He always seems to have some injury so I’m not sure how much of that 4.38 speed he has left.

[Rc2catch]

Just now, JoshAllenReceipts said:

 

 

Davis has his numbers because he's an afterthought for opposing defenses. He is left 1on1 the whole game. Nobody is worried about Davis. Davis puts up numbers simply because he plays so many snaps in an elite Passing Offense. Any WR left 1on1 as often as Davis in THIS particular offense is going to put up some numbers. It doesn't make him good, or impactful. 

I never claimed either. He’s produced when called upon and exceeded expectations. You can’t ask much more from a 4th round rookie. Adding veteran depth is never a bad idea. 

[JohnNord]

2 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Beasley injury more serious plus maybe they dont know if John Brown will be ready

John Brown IS ready and activated.  He’s on the COVID list as he was in close contact with TJ Yeldon

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

 

 

Davis has his numbers because he's an afterthought for opposing defenses. He is left 1on1 the whole game. Nobody is worried about Davis. Davis puts up numbers simply because he plays so many snaps in an elite Passing Offense. Any WR left 1on1 as often as Davis in THIS particular offense is going to put up some numbers. It doesn't make him good, or impactful. 

 

 

+1

 

Perfectly stated.

He runs a 4.52 and was a go-route player in college.

 

The same applies now, he’ll have to work on his route running and suddenness.

[Returntoglory]

2 hours ago, Process said:

Would much rather have Beasley. This is terrible news regarding him. 

 

But Diggs , Brown and Stills is not bad. 

 

No one is going to replace was Beas was doing in the slot.

Assume Much?

 

PRECAUTIONARY.

[jkeerie]

I'd love this signing!  Remember, there are no limits to PS call ups in the playoffs.  Would give the Bills a lot of options and potential for new wrinkles!  Could be the 14th receiver to catch a TD!

[Hampton Josh fan]

26 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

Excellent move.

 

Gabe Davis is awful. Never gets open unless it's a blown coverage. He creates zero separation vs man coverage. The fumble and the lack of effort vs the Pats was the cherry on top. Can't trust this bad rookie in playoff games.

 

Stills is a huge upgrade as an outside WR over Davis.

Little tough on a rookie who has a lot of talent and size, besides being a nice contributor in Brown's absence. Give me a Davis in the 4th rd. every year.

[dpberr]

A great X factor for the playoffs, with or without Beasley being 100%. 

 

I expect teams to prioritize shutting down Diggs come playoff time but no team has enough quality CBs to cover Beasley/Brown/Davis/Stills/Knox/McKenzie.  That's part of the magic.  

[1st&ten]

3 minutes ago, Hampton Josh fan said:

Little tough on a rookie who has a lot of talent and size, besides being a nice contributor in Brown's absence. Give me a Davis in the 4th rd. every year.

 

I agree, the Bills must like him, they keep him over the veteran Kimirow who wasn't too bad.

[Blank Stare]

Man. Tough crowd RE: Gabriel Davis. Once upon a time it was commonly accepted/expected that rookie receivers take time to develop. Is he a world beater? Not yet. And he may never be. But his production thus far as a rookie, while he’s learning the pro game, has been welcome. They didn’t even ask him to run the full route tree in college. I expect his route running precision and knowledge of what works best for creating separation from NFL DBs to improve the more he’s hanging around Diggs, Smoke, and Beasley.  Let’s give him a little leash before we cast him aside into TJ Graham land. 

[clearwater cadet]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Stills isn’t that guy...

 

He’s not going to sign and be a body for a meaningless game with a backup throwing to him.  
 

He’s a legit starting WR. 
 

and as others pointed out, with COVID protocol, this is a move for the Playoffs. 
 

 

What ever it is I like it.

[MAJBobby]

I think he will be available Sunday. I think it is still 5 tests right. 
 

Today - 1

Thurs - 2

Fri - 3

Sat - 4

Sun - 5

 

so If I am right about that hose 5 tests. His 5th would be Gameday. 

 

Edited December 30, 2020 by MAJBobby

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Big Turk]

19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Don’t get me wrong, I like Davis’s potential and he’s exceeded my expectations as a 4th round rookie this year but I think he benefits from the coverage the other guys draw. If the bills are left with him all of a sudden as WR2 I think the whole passing game will be negatively impacted. Maybe he becomes that in time but right now he’s most effective as WR 4 and the Bills are adding insurance to make sure it stays that way 

 

I would agree with that. Davis is a good 3rd/4th option but not a 2nd right now. 

 

[Logic]

42 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

It is. It always has been. I think it’s @Logic that’s there with me on it.

 

Kumerow looked so sweet in 87. 
 

I’d love 81 for Stills, but I guess that’s Kroft. Maybe 83?

Correct. 

Jersey numbers unequivocally have an affect on a player's performance. It's just how science works. Sometimes, players pick the wrong numbers and it ruins their career before it ever really gets started. Other times, they persevere through the poor decision and play well anyway (Tremaine Edmunds, I'm looking at you).

Stills in 83 would probably do some damage. Stills in 87 would only disappoint us all.

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

Correct. 

Jersey numbers unequivocally have an affect on a player's performance. It's just how science works. Sometimes, players pick the wrong numbers and it ruins their career before it ever really gets started. Other times, they persevere through the poor decision and play well anyway (Tremaine Edmunds, I'm looking at you).

Stills in 83 would probably do some damage. Stills in 87 would only disappoint us all.

Look how much better Beasley has been since he got that 11.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

Correct. 

Jersey numbers unequivocally have an affect on a player's performance. It's just how science works. Sometimes, players pick the wrong numbers and it ruins their career before it ever really gets started. Other times, they persevere through the poor decision and play well anyway (Tremaine Edmunds, I'm looking at you).

Stills in 83 would probably do some damage. Stills in 87 would only disappoint us all.

Plus maybe you trick some poor DB into thinking he's covering a TE.

[34-78-83]

Holy crap the shade on G Davis in this thread is puzzling. He's displayed good, strong hands for most of the season, knows every WR position's role on the offense to the level of a vet according to his teammates, has made plays in the role his been given in the offense (3rd / 4th WR option) and has a good number of TD's. He's also been a good blocker on the outside. I think the Bills make it very clear that he is an important piece. Also, he is not a quick, route master type such as what you see in Bease, Diggs and JB. That doesn't make him suck. Craziness, I say.

[Bangarang]

I actually really like this move. I’m not too concerned about Beasley or Brown being ready. I like Stills more than Gabe at this point and he has playoff experience. 

[RyanC883]

makes me a bit nervous.  But then again, the guy has talent, can't hurt to add him.  Likely the best FA WR around.  We need WR's, and if one gets hurt, this gives us a fill-in.  

13 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

I actually really like this move. I’m not too concerned about Beasley or Brown being ready. I like Stills more than Gabe at this point and he has playoff experience. 

 

I think I like Gabe more, but agree it's a good move.  

30 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

Man. Tough crowd RE: Gabriel Davis. Once upon a time it was commonly accepted/expected that rookie receivers take time to develop. Is he a world beater? Not yet. And he may never be. But his production thus far as a rookie, while he’s learning the pro game, has been welcome. They didn’t even ask him to run the full route tree in college. I expect his route running precision and knowledge of what works best for creating separation from NFL DBs to improve the more he’s hanging around Diggs, Smoke, and Beasley.  Let’s give him a little leash before we cast him aside into TJ Graham land. 

 

agreed.  I think Davis is going to be a beast. 

[Buffalo Junction]

24 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

Man. Tough crowd RE: Gabriel Davis. Once upon a time it was commonly accepted/expected that rookie receivers take time to develop. Is he a world beater? Not yet. And he may never be. But his production thus far as a rookie, while he’s learning the pro game, has been welcome. They didn’t even ask him to run the full route tree in college. I expect his route running precision and knowledge of what works best for creating separation from NFL DBs to improve the more he’s hanging around Diggs, Smoke, and Beasley.  Let’s give him a little leash before we cast him aside into TJ Graham land. 

People have forgotten that the kid went to UCF and not Alabama or Ohio State. He started further behind other guys in the class..... Davis has come a long ways in a short period of time, and still has a fair amount of room to improve. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

11 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:

Holy crap the shade on G Davis in this thread is puzzling. He's displayed good, strong hands for most of the season, knows every WR position's role on the offense to the level of a vet according to his teammates, has made plays in the role his been given in the offense (3rd / 4th WR option) and has a good number of TD's. He's also been a good blocker on the outside. I think the Bills make it very clear that he is an important piece. Also, he is not a quick, route master type such as what you see in Bease, Diggs and JB. That doesn't make him suck. Craziness, I say.

 

 

57 targets, 33 receptions, 492 yards, 6 TDs from a fourth round draft pick.

 

I'm with you.  We can always be and should always try to be better, but the kid has been fairly solid.