billvernsays Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Any update with this? Haven’t heard anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Kelsayrundefense said: We got our guys. No room for a piece of trash. Stills is a quality receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, billvernsays said: Any update with this? Haven’t heard anything All I saw today were people here saying McDermott said that this didn't have anything to do with Beasley and that Beane had been looking at him for a while. But I haven't actually seen/heard this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Warcodered said: All I saw today were people here saying McDermott said that this didn't have anything to do with Beasley and that Beane had been looking at him for a while. But I haven't actually seen/heard this. Could be coach speak but that's what was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 If we dont hear anything today, my guess is he wont/didn't sign here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 He answered 'ranch' on the questionnaire...🙁 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, HOUSE said: This has to be a faster signing. I would rather use a WR that knows the playbook. I take Duke over this guy Sorry, the signing is taking to long 1 minute ago, Steptide said: If we dont hear anything today, my guess is he wont/didn't sign here. I don’t get these posts - Nothing official can be done till he clears protocol. Based on timing of the original - his 5 consecutive negative tests to clear protocol and sign will not occur until Sunday at the earliest. Therefore - assuming he needs a full physical and to sign the contract- you are really looking at Monday mostly likely before it is official and we any details. This is similar to the Winters and Jonatthan signings that got talked about, but then took a week to complete. He may change his mind, but the fact that he has followed the Bills on Social Media and the current COVID Rules - suggest this is a routine COVID testing wait. Be a little patient and the info will come. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I don’t get these posts - Nothing official can be done till he clears protocol. Based on timing of the original - his 5 consecutive negative tests to clear protocol and sign will not occur until Sunday at the earliest. Therefore - assuming he needs a full physical and to sign the contract- you are really looking at Monday mostly likely before it is official and we any details. This is similar to the Winters and Jonatthan signings that got talked about, but then took a week to complete. He may change his mind, but the fact that he has followed the Bills on Social Media and the current COVID Rules - suggest this is a routine COVID testing wait. Be a little patient and the info will come. Ahh. Didn't know he had to have 5 negative tests. Makes sense then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I don’t get these posts - Nothing official can be done till he clears protocol. Based on timing of the original - his 5 consecutive negative tests to clear protocol and sign will not occur until Sunday at the earliest. Therefore - assuming he needs a full physical and to sign the contract- you are really looking at Monday mostly likely before it is official and we any details. This is similar to the Winters and Jonatthan signings that got talked about, but then took a week to complete. He may change his mind, but the fact that he has followed the Bills on Social Media and the current COVID Rules - suggest this is a routine COVID testing wait. Be a little patient and the info will come. howd they sign that gentry wr to pS within 1 day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, balln said: howd they sign that gentry wr to pS within 1 day? Read through the thread - this has already been explained and the Bills have not signed Gentry to anything - he came in for a visit (that is where teams start the 5day COVID protocol testing if they think he is going to sign). Jennings - whom they signed to the PS - originally visited once Kumerow was signed by the Saints. He was signed by the Bills 5 days later - which was the reason for the delay between Kumerow leaving and the Jennings signing. Beane has talked about this since the beginning of the year once the NFL shifted the protocol to needing the 5 negative tests to meet with internal staff and get full physicals. He stated that it will take about a week to sign and replace guys - part of the reason for the expanded PS. The difference is a guy like Jennings comes in and is not a big deal - completes his 5 negatives and signs. A guy like Stills is a big name and therefore people immediately see him coming in and it gets talked about by Shefter and therefore the 5 days becomes noticeable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, balln said: howd they sign that gentry wr to pS within 1 day? I wondered about this as well... 1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said: Read through the thread - this has already been explained and the Bills have not signed Gentry to anything - he came in for a visit (that is where teams start the 5day COVID protocol testing if they think he is going to sign). Jennings - whom they signed to the PS - originally visited once Kumerow was signed by the Saints. He was signed by the Bills 5 days later - which was the reason for the delay between Kumerow leaving and the Jennings signing. Beane has talked about this since the beginning of the year once the NFL shifted the protocol to needing the 5 negative tests to meet with internal staff and get full physicals. He stated that it will take about a week to sign and replace guys - part of the reason for the expanded PS. The difference is a guy like Jennings comes in and is not a big deal - completes his 5 negatives and signs. A guy like Stills is a big name and therefore people immediately see him coming in and it gets talked about by Shefter and therefore the 5 days becomes noticeable. ...thanks for clarity on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 A bit of a reach here, but maybe Stills as a possible replacement if Brown is a cap casualty next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Beastly is my favorite player on offense. Just love his attitude and mentality. It would absolutely suck if he was out in the playoffs after all the work he put in this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, balln said: howd they sign that gentry wr to pS within 1 day? They didn’t.. he was just brought in for a workout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, klos63 said: A bit of a reach here, but maybe Stills as a possible replacement if Brown is a cap casualty next season. I think people underestimate the importance of John Brown to this offense especially to Josh Allen ,with his speed alone he creates so much more room underneath for Beasley to operate, I can’t wait to have him back this offense will be even so much MORE explosive .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: Beastly is my favorite player on offense. Just love his attitude and mentality. It would absolutely suck if he was out in the playoffs after all the work he put in this season. Me too, there just hasn’t been any information to go on, other than it’s not season ending ligament damage because McDermott talked about Beasley working with trainers and rehabbing. As we can see with Green Bay’s LT, if it was ACL, it would have been reported by now. Hopefully it’s a common knee strain and instead of 3-weeks, Beasley can push it and get back in 2-weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Putin said: I think people underestimate the importance of John Brown to this offense especially to Josh Allen ,with his speed alone he creates so much more room underneath for Beasley to operate, I can’t wait to have him back this offense will be even so much MORE explosive .... Not underestimating him at all. He has a high cap hit next year and sometimes tough decisions are made. Stills is a deep threat as well, if they can get similar production and save a few million, it might need to be looked at. I think Brown is great, but Beasley has done fine with Brown playing hurt or not playing most of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: Not underestimating him at all. He has a high cap hit next year and sometimes tough decisions are made. Stills is a deep threat as well, if they can get similar production and save a few million, it might need to be looked at. I think Brown is great, but Beasley has done fine with Brown playing hurt or not playing most of the season. I think if we have Bease, brown and Diggs on the field all at the same time, this team can possibly get to the superbowl. I don't know how teams could cover all those guys for 60 mins. Even if teams found a way, that still leaves Davis out there who's been solid for a rookie. I don't want to get overly excited, but I'm pumped to see this offense at full strength 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, klos63 said: Not underestimating him at all. He has a high cap hit next year and sometimes tough decisions are made. Stills is a deep threat as well, if they can get similar production and save a few million, it might need to be looked at. I think Brown is great, but Beasley has done fine with Brown playing hurt or not playing most of the season. Just a little note that Stills was being paid comparably to Brown in Miami then Houston and as someone who was traded away like a bad penny then apparently asked for his release, it's not a given to me that he'd want to sign a "discount contract". In fact, Stills Wiki page has changed back to "free agent" so I'm thinking with the Nelson signing to the PS perhaps Stills priced himself out of our market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just a little note that Stills was being paid comparably to Brown in Miami then Houston and as someone who was traded away like a bad penny then apparently asked for his release, it's not a given to me that he'd want to sign a "discount contract". In fact, Stills Wiki page has changed back to "free agent" so I'm thinking with the Nelson signing to the PS perhaps Stills priced himself out of our market. Not terribly excited about a PS signing at this point of the season, wouldn't imagine that's related to Stills whatsoever. Edited January 1, 2021 by klos63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just to clarify, Stills hasn’t signed yet correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: Just to clarify, Stills hasn’t signed yet correct? Correct. Needs to go through 6 day protocol before he can even enter the building. I feel like this post was tongue and cheek but figured I'd answer anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just a little note that Stills was being paid comparably to Brown in Miami then Houston and as someone who was traded away like a bad penny then apparently asked for his release, it's not a given to me that he'd want to sign a "discount contract". In fact, Stills Wiki page has changed back to "free agent" so I'm thinking with the Nelson signing to the PS perhaps Stills priced himself out of our market. If he's haggling over money at this stage of the season, he's an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Wondering if signing speedster JJ Nelson means they couldn't get something done with Stills... Or if they are still looking Beane is really looking to add speed as Stills runs a 4.38...turning Bills into a version of the Chiefs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I'll apologize in advance in case this was discussed somewhere in the previous 20 pages. Whose roster spot would Stills take, presuming Cole and Smoke are both good to go in seven days? It would seem he'd get Gabriel Davis' playing time, but we cannot try to sneak him through waivers or expose him on the practice squad. Maybe if Gillim is destined for IR? But even then does Stills have a place on the gameday active list? The roster is pretty packed at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Me too, there just hasn’t been any information to go on, other than it’s not season ending ligament damage because McDermott talked about Beasley working with trainers and rehabbing. As we can see with Green Bay’s LT, if it was ACL, it would have been reported by now. Hopefully it’s a common knee strain and instead of 3-weeks, Beasley can push it and get back in 2-weeks. Plus Bease is a nimble little dude, hopefully that bodes well for rehab and what he asks of his knees, versus a 300 lb OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: If he's haggling over money at this stage of the season, he's an idiot. Pretty strong reaction for not knowing the situation. I know you said 'if', but still... Just amazes me how some people talk about others, I'm probably reacting more from the Cam thread than your post. 2 minutes ago, scribo said: I'll apologize in advance in case this was discussed somewhere in the previous 20 pages. Whose roster spot would Stills take, presuming Cole and Smoke are both good to go in seven days? It would seem he'd get Gabriel Davis' playing time, but we cannot try to sneak him through waivers or expose him on the practice squad. Maybe if Gillim is destined for IR? But even then does Stills have a place on the gameday active list? The roster is pretty packed at this point. If they sign Stills, my assumption is that Beasley won't be ready for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Steptide said: I think if we have Bease, brown and Diggs on the field all at the same time, this team can possibly get to the superbowl. I don't know how teams could cover all those guys for 60 mins. Even if teams found a way, that still leaves Davis out there who's been solid for a rookie. I don't want to get overly excited, but I'm pumped to see this offense at full strength Even without Brown the Bills offense has looked unstoppable at times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I believe Beasley will be on the field producing in the first round. I believe Smoke is going to be smoking CBs in the first round. Davis now has a full regular season under his belt and out-preformed expectations. He is a future #1 or #2 WR for Buffalo. Insurance is important, especially in the COVID postseason. But who do you sacrifice to plus up what is already one of the league's very top WR corps? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just a little note that Stills was being paid comparably to Brown in Miami then Houston and as someone who was traded away like a bad penny then apparently asked for his release, it's not a given to me that he'd want to sign a "discount contract". In fact, Stills Wiki page has changed back to "free agent" so I'm thinking with the Nelson signing to the PS perhaps Stills priced himself out of our market. Anyone can update a wiki page so don't take that for anything. Also, while I get your point about money, maybe it's just me but it would seem smart to sign on for the playoffs and if he plays really well, he could possibly get a decent pay increase next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, klos63 said: Pretty strong reaction for not knowing the situation. I know you said 'if', but still... Just amazes me how some people talk about others, I'm probably reacting more from the Cam thread than your post. Thank you for identifying this. I have read (this morning) Stills being called "trash" and an "idiot". I thoroughly enjoy Two Bills Drive and its football discourse. I do not understand, and am offended by, the willingness of some to ignorantly (no real knowledge of whom they speak) use extremely negative descriptions. Just my two cents. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, klos63 said: Pretty strong reaction for not knowing the situation. I know you said 'if', but still... Just amazes me how some people talk about others, I'm probably reacting more from the Cam thread than your post. I did say "if." Again, the guy made $7M from the Texans this year. He has a chance to join a SB contender. If it's about money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Stills has "liked" several Bills- and Josh-related tweets over the past two days, including news about fans being allowed and arguments for Josh being the league MVP. I don't see any other team's tweets getting his attention. I know that may seem trivial, but celebs know their "likes" can be seen and often used to send a message. Seems to me Stills wants the chance. I cannot imagine money is any issue for either side at this stage of the year. My guess is either protocol is slowing it down or the Bills are waiting to see exactly what they need and where. No need to pull the trigger any earlier than necessary. Lastly, Coach McD clearly sees competitive advantage in giving opponents as little info to work with as possible. He knows the value of every minute to prepare. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: I did say "if." Again, the guy made $7M from the Texans this year. He has a chance to join a SB contender. If it's about money... I noted that you said if, and you have no idea that it's about the money. He'll get paid for 1 game. I can't imagine the money being an issue. Will he be on the active roster? That might be what it's about. He might not care about the money, but if he's going to go somewhere , he might want to actually play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, klos63 said: I noted that you said if, and you have no idea that it's about the money. He'll get paid for 1 game. I can't imagine the money being an issue. Will he be on the active roster? That might be what it's about. He might not care about the money, but if he's going to go somewhere , he might want to actually play. I would think this is the issue- why move to Buffalo for a few months unless you can show off? Guys who are competitive don't look at a ring they did not earn as well as one they were integral in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 im encouraged for beasely return the longer stills isnt signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, balln said: im encouraged for beasely return the longer stills isnt signed Stills primarily plays outside so I don’t think one has much to do with the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: Stills primarily plays outside so I don’t think one has much to do with the other. sure it does. 1/3 of his plays come from slot. bills/beane just trying to get better but when beasely went down and then you hear all this WR talk and stills. then a day or two later you hear beasely is rehabbing and allen seems positive and no stills signing still. this covid process talk i dont buy. they just signed 2 WR in 48 hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, balln said: sure it does. 1/3 of his plays come from slot. bills/beane just trying to get better but when beasely went down and then you hear all this WR talk and stills. then a day or two later you hear beasely is rehabbing and allen seems positive and no stills signing still. this covid process talk i dont buy. they just signed 2 WR in 48 hrs. and they had to go through covid protocol as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, balln said: sure it does. 1/3 of his plays come from slot. bills/beane just trying to get better but when beasely went down and then you hear all this WR talk and stills. then a day or two later you hear beasely is rehabbing and allen seems positive and no stills signing still. this covid process talk i dont buy. they just signed 2 WR in 48 hrs. McDermott has literally told us the two things are unrelated and while he might play things close to the vest he doesn't really lie to us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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