Gugny Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30217210/sources-jacksonville-jaguars-qb-gardner-minshew-multiple-fractures-sprained-ligament-thumb X-rays taken this week revealed that Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Gardner Minshew II has multiple fractures and a strained ligament in his right thumb, league sources told ESPN. Minshew has had discomfort in his thumb since Jacksonville's Oct. 11 game at Houston, a source told ESPN. He did not tell the team about the pain until after the last game, which led to a postgame X-ray in Los Angeles. The Jaguars didn't know about Minshew's injury until this week, per sources. It is uncertain whether Minshew will be able to play when Jacksonville returns from its bye to host the Texans. My question: Was it a dick move for him to keep this to himself for so long? Or would most/all fringe starters do the same for fear of losing their job to injury? (Glennon is his backup, so I can't really see that happening) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Mike Glennon is still in the league? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 The biggest thing I got out of this is that I had no idea Mike Glennon was still in the league 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Gardner was scared that St. Doug was going to be mad if he said anything. Now he's not eligible for workmen's comp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I feel for Minshew. He probably feels that if he is replaced then he will never start again. I understand why he didn’t say anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 im gonna bet every penny i have on the titans if glennon plays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said: Mike Glennon is still in the league? Yes, I still play football. How dare you......... 14 minutes ago, aristocrat said: im gonna bet every penny i have on the titans if glennon plays Where's the $15k guy when you need a loan? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Explains the drop-off in his performance! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said: Mike Glennon is still in the league? Yeah...don't you know that any QB that even shows marginal success as a starter will have as long a career as they want as a backup? I mean look at Chase Daniel...the man has made almost $38 million to throw an average of about 20 passes a year over his 9 year career... Glennon has made almost $27 million in his 6 years in the league...backup QB is the easiest position to make a ton of money and have a long career to literally never play. In fact, it might be the only position in the NFL that you may get paid MORE based on potential than on actual ability...IE, you might get a bigger contract when teams THINK you are going to be able to come into a game and play well as a backup versus actually getting in a game as a backup and possibly not living up to their expectations. Being an unknown quantity as a backup QB can actually work in your favor as long as teams THINK you can play without having any proof one way or the other. Edited October 29, 2020 by matter2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I suffered fractures to my non-dominant thumb in a workplace accident in my early 20's and that was bad enough. I cringe at the thought of gripping a football with that damage. I can definitely see why some guys would try to tough it out because they're not guaranteed to get that starting spot back. Add in the loyalty to guys you're with every day, it's probably tough feeling like you're letting them down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I feel for Minshew. He probably feels that if he is replaced then he will never start again. I understand why he didn’t say anything. That's about it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 52 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I feel for Minshew. He probably feels that if he is replaced then he will never start again. I understand why he didn’t say anything. Players like him are in a really interesting situation. He's right on the cusp of maybe finding himself as a starting QB in the NFL, maybe only being a back-up, and maybe being out of the league entirely. He signed a 4 year deal with Jacksonville for $2.7 million. He obviously wants to keep those big pay days coming (even if they are low by NFL standards) because he ain't gonna find anything close to it out in the real world. The ramifications for things "going well" for him are huge. Other guys can hop from team to team and K to K and know they are going to 1) have a job and 2) make enormous amounts of money, assuming they avoid injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBobs Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I don't get why so many teams make the same mistakes over and over again. This is a talent deprived team at 1-6 -- before his injury there's literally no reason to go from Minshew to Mike freaking Glennon. Why teams pull young starters on terrible teams for the Kyle Allen's and Mike Glennon's of the world is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Im putting $5000 on the Titans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Gugny said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30217210/sources-jacksonville-jaguars-qb-gardner-minshew-multiple-fractures-sprained-ligament-thumb X-rays taken this week revealed that Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Gardner Minshew II has multiple fractures and a strained ligament in his right thumb, league sources told ESPN. Minshew has had discomfort in his thumb since Jacksonville's Oct. 11 game at Houston, a source told ESPN. He did not tell the team about the pain until after the last game, which led to a postgame X-ray in Los Angeles. The Jaguars didn't know about Minshew's injury until this week, per sources. It is uncertain whether Minshew will be able to play when Jacksonville returns from its bye to host the Texans. My question: Was it a dick move for him to keep this to himself for so long? Or would most/all fringe starters do the same for fear of losing their job to injury? (Glennon is his backup, so I can't really see that happening) I think a month into the season, every player is dealing with soreness, and the line between "Uuuugh!" and "Need treatment!" is pretty much a judgement call. At the best, it was poor judgement, but I'm going to guess that Minshew is far from the only player who fails to disclose and seek treatment for anything they perceive as a nagging injury that doesn't interfere with their ability to play (whether or not their perception matches reality). Note that the source pretty much has to claim the team knew nothing about it or they'd be in trouble with the league. Under Coughlin, the Jaguars had the largest number of grievances filed about how the team handled injuries, so while one would think that a player wouldn't hesitate to disclose an injury and get it diagnosed, perhaps that toxic culture still lingers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Players like him are in a really interesting situation. He's right on the cusp of maybe finding himself as a starting QB in the NFL, maybe only being a back-up, and maybe being out of the league entirely. He signed a 4 year deal with Jacksonville for $2.7 million. He obviously wants to keep those big pay days coming (even if they are low by NFL standards) because he ain't gonna find anything close to it out in the real world. The ramifications for things "going well" for him are huge. Other guys can hop from team to team and K to K and know they are going to 1) have a job and 2) make enormous amounts of money, assuming they avoid injury. What makes you think Gardner Minshew can't make big money in the real world? He may have some pretty cool talents besides football. He has the iconic look with the shaggy hair and mustache already going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: What makes you think Gardner Minshew can't make big money in the real world? He may have some pretty cool talents besides football. He has the iconic look with the shaggy hair and mustache already going. You think he has enough personality to turn into a TV sports commentator? That's the only place he's going to find NFL type money after his playing days are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: Im putting $5000 on the Titans Nice knowing you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 i remember glennon, drafted by the bucks after EJ and Geno. i also remember playing them that year, losing to them, and realizing glennon was better than both of them, and that he wasn't actually good. i also remember like a year or two later the brocket launcher got drafted by denver and signed by houston (cuz he won a superbowl for denver when he started a few games, but didn't play in the bowl, and manning was toast). as much talent as the jets wasted w geno and the bills did w EJ, that houston team had that one star WR, solid running, and a sick sick d, and lost to new england in the playoffs because brocket could not make a single play. im so happy we don't have a zero at qb anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Gugny said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30217210/sources-jacksonville-jaguars-qb-gardner-minshew-multiple-fractures-sprained-ligament-thumb X-rays taken this week revealed that Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Gardner Minshew II has multiple fractures and a strained ligament in his right thumb, league sources told ESPN. Minshew has had discomfort in his thumb since Jacksonville's Oct. 11 game at Houston, a source told ESPN. He did not tell the team about the pain until after the last game, which led to a postgame X-ray in Los Angeles. The Jaguars didn't know about Minshew's injury until this week, per sources. It is uncertain whether Minshew will be able to play when Jacksonville returns from its bye to host the Texans. My question: Was it a dick move for him to keep this to himself for so long? Or would most/all fringe starters do the same for fear of losing their job to injury? (Glennon is his backup, so I can't really see that happening) Tough question! Hard to answer without being inside an NFL locker room. Are little aches and nicks and bruises typically never discussed as you don't want to appear soft. Obviously this is much worse, but maybe he didn't think so at the time. While I'm extremely far from a professional athlete, I still recall times when I was a kid even in 20's, jammed a finger, turned an ankle, no big deal, six months later found out the finger/ankle had been actually been broken(ankle was a small crack) Often you think it's just a minor little thing. While the league tell and requires the players to report every little thing, easy to see that it doesn't often happen. Don't know what the laws are in Florida, but in New York he'd be in trouble with Workmans Comp for not reporting a work related injury within 24 hours. I'm sure the NFL is required to abide by those rules as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Seasons1992 said: Yes, I still play football. How dare you......... Where's the $15k guy when you need a loan? He has kind of grown into that neck over his years of obscurity, hasn't he. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Blokestradamus said: I suffered fractures to my non-dominant thumb... What your fingers do in the privacy of their own home is none of our cncern. 🧐 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Nice knowing you. trying to get my wife to divorce me. so far Im up 5k...she took my winnings though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, DeltaDigital said: Mike Glennon is still in the league? I didn't know Glennon was still in the league but I did wonder why a giraffe was roaming the Jacksonville sideline last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said: What makes you think Gardner Minshew can't make big money in the real world? He may have some pretty cool talents besides football. He has the iconic look with the shaggy hair and mustache already going. I think he would make an amazing exotic car sales man. He also looks like he could have a promising future in porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 hours ago, DeltaDigital said: Mike Glennon is still in the league? Not really. He plays for Jacksonville. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 hours ago, colin said: i remember glennon, drafted by the bucks after EJ and Geno. i also remember playing them that year, losing to them, and realizing glennon was better than both of them, and that he wasn't actually good. i also remember like a year or two later the brocket launcher got drafted by denver and signed by houston (cuz he won a superbowl for denver when he started a few games, but didn't play in the bowl, and manning was toast). as much talent as the jets wasted w geno and the bills did w EJ, that houston team had that one star WR, solid running, and a sick sick d, and lost to new england in the playoffs because brocket could not make a single play. im so happy we don't have a zero at qb anymore. Hou had Fuller and a decent TE that year too, as I recall Actually I wish you hadn't helped me recall. It really rotted my socks that HOU won a playoff game with Brock Freakin' Osweiler and a 9-7 record at a point where the Bills hadn't even been in a playoff game in 17 years, including 2014 when our record was...9-7 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: Not really. He plays for Jacksonville. Oooh 🔥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Minshew II is a boss... he easily has a backup career waiting if Dumb Marrone benches him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I understand where Minshew is coming from. He may have thought he was just hurt and could shake it off. And yeah, he probably felt like if he had to miss time due to injury he'd lose his starting gig but if I were him I'd have some confidence in myself and say, "It's Mike gotd@ng Glennon, I can beat this guy for the #1 spot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 8 hours ago, DeltaDigital said: Mike Glennon is still in the league? I heard his hands are so small he doesn't need ligaments, so no worry about damage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Do people realize the Titans are playing the Bengals this week? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 10 hours ago, matter2003 said: Yeah...don't you know that any QB that even shows marginal success as a starter will have as long a career as they want as a backup? I mean look at Chase Daniel...the man has made almost $38 million to throw an average of about 20 passes a year over his 9 year career... Glennon has made almost $27 million in his 6 years in the league...backup QB is the easiest position to make a ton of money and have a long career to literally never play. In fact, it might be the only position in the NFL that you may get paid MORE based on potential than on actual ability...IE, you might get a bigger contract when teams THINK you are going to be able to come into a game and play well as a backup versus actually getting in a game as a backup and possibly not living up to their expectations. Being an unknown quantity as a backup QB can actually work in your favor as long as teams THINK you can play without having any proof one way or the other. Didn’t come in w EJ in 2013? Christ that would make this his 8th season? Lucky bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Mike Glennon? Nathan Peterman might truly be up next. There's not an, ahem, very well known unemployed QB that was tearing it up 5 years ago during the exact same time that Mike Glennon was already proving to be a bust still available? It's crazy to me that Mike the Neck Glennon is still somehow an NFL quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 It’s too bad they have too many wins to catch the Jets in the tank for Trevor race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Codyny13 said: Didn’t come in w EJ in 2013? Christ that would make this his 8th season? Lucky bastard Right?! I guess I understand that the Jags are playing for nothing in which case Mike Glennon is probably the perfect QB, but I can think of numerous QB's that have come and gone since then that inspire more hope than Mike Glennon. Cardale Jones? Heck, maybe give me EJ? And I'll ask the flat out obvious - who would anybody rather have? Kaepernick or Mike Glennon? They played at the same time! Glennon was eating a bunch of high hanging flowers on the sideline while Kaep was winning playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 North Dallas Forty showed the dirty side of the training room. Amazing how little has changed in 40 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) To be fair though the Cowboys are about to start a guy at QB whose own neighbors may not even know that he plays football. Some of these 3rd string QB options are unreal...are their dads just friends with the GMs or something? Going through the league right now and I truly haven't even heard of some of these guys. Easton Stick? It's like I'm in the 17th season of Madden Franchise mode. How in the world is Fitz not getting millions of dollars thrown at him right now? Edited October 30, 2020 by Nelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 18 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: He has kind of grown into that neck over his years of obscurity, hasn't he. Can you imagine him running and taking a late hit to the head? The back of his skull would be touching his shoulder blades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 20 hours ago, Gugny said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30217210/sources-jacksonville-jaguars-qb-gardner-minshew-multiple-fractures-sprained-ligament-thumb X-rays taken this week revealed that Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Gardner Minshew II has multiple fractures and a strained ligament in his right thumb, league sources told ESPN. Minshew has had discomfort in his thumb since Jacksonville's Oct. 11 game at Houston, a source told ESPN. He did not tell the team about the pain until after the last game, which led to a postgame X-ray in Los Angeles. The Jaguars didn't know about Minshew's injury until this week, per sources. It is uncertain whether Minshew will be able to play when Jacksonville returns from its bye to host the Texans. My question: Was it a dick move for him to keep this to himself for so long? Or would most/all fringe starters do the same for fear of losing their job to injury? (Glennon is his backup, so I can't really see that happening) Maybe his fear isn't Mike Glennon. Maybe his fear is that Jacksonville ends up with the #1 pick and gets Trevor Lawrence. At the very least, the Jaguars will probably be in talks for one of the other top guys like Justin Fields, Trey Lance or Kyle Trask. The upcoming QB class is supposed to be very good, and this may be Minshew's best shot at keeping the starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Maybe his fear isn't Mike Glennon. Maybe his fear is that Jacksonville ends up with the #1 pick and gets Trevor Lawrence. At the very least, the Jaguars will probably be in talks for one of the other top guys like Justin Fields, Trey Lance or Kyle Trask. The upcoming QB class is supposed to be very good, and this may be Minshew's best shot at keeping the starting job. Minshew will have a long career as a backup/fitzpatrick type. He doesn't have great arm strength, he isn't particularly accurate - but he's a gamer, takes what you give him, gets the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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