Week 8: Patriots at Bills

[Rocky Landing]

26 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:

😂😂😂 You and I live very different lives.

I was born and raised in Rochester, and yeah, my life sure is different living here. In all honesty, I would love to move back, and I'm trying to plan it. Tough with my career, though.

[TheCockSportif]

If there was ever a Raiders of the Lost Ark, "don't look at it" moment, where you get to (a) take a quick peek at the Ark, and (b) live to fight another day and more -- it's this game.

Edited October 31, 2020 by Groin

[Hapless Bills Fan]

47 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Charles Jones 3.5 days on the Practice Squad?  Wonder what happened there?

 

If I'm correct, we cannot return Jackson to the practice squad without him passing through waivers - so do we keep him on the active roster now?

 

Interesting choice on elevating Brandin Bryant.  How many DLmen does that give us on the roster now?

 

 

[wjag]

I don’t see BB being able to scheme a running game without a TE and WR threat.   The reason the Bills struggled in the past was because of Brady, Gronkowski and Edelman.  All are gone.  You had to respect their passing game which softened up the LBs. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

20mph winds? ugh... That works against us. 

 

Was forecast to be 40-50 mph so...

[blacklabel]

43 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

cant you just hear the announcers now: “against all odds, down 5 starters, coming off a brutal loss, and in 40 MPH winds, the pats pull off a huge win. What a testament to the genius of Bill bellichick.”

 

And that, my good man, is why I watch the games on mute. 

[gordong]

Weather is getting way over played for tomorrow, at 1 they are say 16mph gusting to 22, that‘s A far cry from 50. some rain at kick off and around 3. Allen’s  got plenty of arm from these conditions. Protect the ball and stop run,  it’s a blow out. 

Edited October 31, 2020 by gordong

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

They have their interior OL and run game 

 

so who exactly are the Pats starting at OL and RB and where did they start the season on the depth chart?

 

[JGMcD2]

12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

so who exactly are the Pats starting at OL and RB and where did they start the season on the depth chart?

 

I’m pretty sure Thuney, Andrews and Mason will all be active. 
 

White, Harris, and Burkhead. Also, JJ Taylor. My buddy played at U of A, raves about Taylor. Says he’s someone who can get hot and takeover a game. Gives me Jonas Gray vibes where he may just randomly run for 200 yards and 4 TDs and then never does anything again. 
 

There’s a real chance we will have our hands full against the run game.

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

The Patriots defense's biggest weakness is their lack of speed and they've tried to use their talented and deep secondary to counter that, often playing with 5 or 6 DBs on the field if you include Adrian Phillips who plays a kind of rover position for them now. With Gilmore and Dugger out and JC Jackson listed as Questionable, I wonder if they can continue to play that way effectively. Jonathan Jones has looked very beatable this year as well. 

 

[Rockinon]

Coach knows exactly how to beat Cam. Gonna win this by 3 scores easy.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said:

The Patriots defense's biggest weakness is their lack of speed and they've tried to use their talented and deep secondary to counter that, often playing with 5 or 6 DBs on the field if you include Adrian Phillips who plays a kind of rover position for them now. With Gilmore and Dugger out and JC Jackson listed as Questionable, I wonder if they can continue to play that way effectively. Jonathan Jones has looked very beatable this year as well. 

 

Just wondering what kind of defense scheme Bill going to throw at the Bill's . Maybe try deep safety or cover 2. But something tells me going to show the Bills some different looks.

[Rockinon]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Just wondering what kind of defense scheme Bill going to throw at the Bill's . Maybe try deep safety or cover 2. But something tells me going to show the Bills some different looks.

Don't think NE has enough horses to stop Buffalo's offense. Brown and Feliciano coming back are huge.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

16 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

I’m pretty sure Thuney, Andrews and Mason will all be active. 
 

White, Harris, and Burkhead. Also, JJ Taylor. My buddy played at U of A, raves about Taylor. Says he’s someone who can get hot and takeover a game. Gives me Jonas Gray vibes where he may just randomly run for 200 yards and 4 TDs and then never does anything again. 
 

There’s a real chance we will have our hands full against the run game.

 

Thuney and Mason are on the injury report as "questionable" and were limited all week in practice. 

 

Not questioning that we'll likely have our hands full but they may be hampered.

 

[Warcodered]

 

[eball]

5 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

 

20mph winds? ugh... That works against us. 

 

20 mph winds are but a mild breeze in the face of a Josh Allen spiral.  Nothing to fear.

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

so who exactly are the Pats starting at OL and RB and where did they start the season on the depth chart?

 

They have thuney, Andrews and Shaq Mason inside which is a very solid trio. All starters. RB will be Damien Harris Rex burkhead and James White. All  can catch the ball out of the backfield. Could definitely see them line up white at WR too since they are so banged up there. I think the only RB out is Sony Michel. 

Edited October 31, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Charles Jones 3.5 days on the Practice Squad?  Wonder what happened there?

 

If I'm correct, we cannot return Jackson to the practice squad without him passing through waivers - so do we keep him on the active roster now?

 

Interesting choice on elevating Brandin Bryant.  How many DLmen does that give us on the roster now?

 

 

 

Yes, all elevated PS players have to go thru waivers.

The thing is it's Jackson's 2nd time elevated so he can't be elevated again.

 

Next call up is for a minimum of 3 games so I would believe that if a team was interested in him the Bills would have the option (I believe)

to just sign him "active".  I know teams have that option when a team wants to sign a player directly of the PS.

 

Then again like you pointed out he may be staying full time which is what I'm betting will happen because of Cam Lewis to IR.

[DuckyBoys]

Honestly if we cant beat this Pats team in the shape they are in then were simply not going to get over the hump under McDermott.  Its a bad struggling team with no wrs and a qb who is playing terrible.  Defense should be able to hold a one dimensional team out of the end zone period

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

2 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

Honestly if we cant beat this Pats team in the shape they are in then were simply not going to get over the hump under McDermott.  Its a bad struggling team with no wrs and a qb who is playing terrible.  Defense should be able to hold a one dimensional team out of the end zone period

Exactly why questions about McDermott need to be asked if we lose this game.

We do have the strongest-armed QB in the NFL, so it seems like if any team should be able to deal with wind, it's us.

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

Honestly if we cant beat this Pats team in the shape they are in then were simply not going to get over the hump under McDermott.  Its a bad struggling team with no wrs and a qb who is playing terrible.  Defense should be able to hold a one dimensional team out of the end zone period

 

I'm getting to the point after all the news that the only path NE* has to a W is too many turnovers and/or fluky Special Teams plays. 

[TroutDog]

2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Yep. And that combo has kicked our asses many times over the years. Bellyache knows how to scheme a running game against a team shown to be vulnerable up front. 

Bills have shown an ability to shut down one aspect of an opposing O but not both. Shutting their run game down seems doable...having Cam throw against us? I like it. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

McDermott and Eric Washington know exactly what makes Cam uncomfortable. It’s going to be up to the players to execute the scheme tomorrow. I really see this as a huuuuuge Bills victory. Up by 21 at half and there is no come back. Love to see Belichick’s face in the fourth sitting there in the rain wishing it was 2002 and Tommy was with him. 

[BobbyC81]

1 hour ago, Rockinon said:

Coach knows exactly how to beat Cam. Gonna win this by 3 scores easy.

Yes, you would think so.

 

 I will be very disappointed if the Bills lose this game the way things have lined up.  First is McD familiarity with Cam.
 

 Second, the Bills have struggled with slot receivers this season and with Edelman forever and he’s out.

 

Third, Belechick likes to take away the opposing offense’s best weapon, which is Diggs, but Gilmore isn’t going to play.  So, does he still focus on Diggs or contain Josh in the pocket?

 

All of the above work to the Bills favor and they need to take advantage of them.  

 

 

[nucci]

2 minutes ago, ColeB said:

Yes, you would think so.

 

 I will be very disappointed if the Bills lose this game the way things have lined up.  First is McD familiarity with Cam.
 

 Second, the Bills have struggled with slot receivers this season and with Edelman forever and he’s out.

 

Third, Belechick likes to take away the opposing offense’s best weapon, which is Diggs, but Gilmore isn’t going to play.  So, does he still focus on Diggs or contain Josh in the pocket?

 

All of the above work to the Bills favor and they need to take advantage of them.  

 

 

aren't most coaches familiar with him? He's been in the league a while now

[DuckyBoys]

27 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Exactly why questions about McDermott need to be asked if we lose this game.

We do have the strongest-armed QB in the NFL, so it seems like if any team should be able to deal with wind, it's us.

 

No excuses.  Patriots struggled against the Broncos and Niners and both of those teams were 100% one dimensional and both qbs turned the ball over.  Should be no excuse for the Bills not to play 1 safety high and get after the run and Cam.  Poyer should be basically a extra linebacker the entire game and the corners should be playing close to the los.  Even if Cam suddenly can complete a forward pass who is going to separate on that receiving core. 

 

On offense Daboll can afford to be patient and run the football Dont just let them drop 8 all game and flood all the passing lanes waiting for a mistake or hiccup in the pass game.  I expect Josh to run tomorrow  Hopefully he covers himself up and does not take needless hits and holds onto the ball with two hands.  "Two hands Josh" 

[RiotAct]

2 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

 

No excuses.  Patriots struggled against the Broncos and Niners and both of those teams were 100% one dimensional and both qbs turned the ball over.  Should be no excuse for the Bills not to play 1 safety high and get after the run and Cam.  Poyer should be basically a extra linebacker the entire game 

 

Probably right.  His tackling seems to be a lot better this season than last, which is good.

[ColoradoBills]

All this talk about cold, windy and rainy weather is going to force Cam to wear his "winter babushka".

That's his least favorite kind!

 

[Big Turk]

Honestly with all the players out for the Pats this is a full Bills team versus a 2nd/3rd string Pats team.

 

They should win and win easily. There is nothing to really be impressed with if they win. The Jets might have more talent than the team we are playing tomorrow

 

Edited October 31, 2020 by matter2003

[njbuff]

The Pats have absolutely no talent out there tomorrow.

 

I will NEVER bet a Bills game, but if the Bills can’t easily cover the 4.5 figure, something is seriously wrong.

[TroutDog]

Ok, off topic, but I am the only one who gets these alerts from the Bills and it seems like they’re written by a 13 year old girl (read: Maddie Glab) with emojis?  
 

Look, I dig emojis and have read the science about the usage of them but these are over the top. Type the flipping words!!!

Edited November 1, 2020 by TroutDog

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

 

[Beast]

1 hour ago, DuckyBoys said:

 

No excuses.  Patriots struggled against the Broncos and Niners and both of those teams were 100% one dimensional and both qbs turned the ball over.  Should be no excuse for the Bills not to play 1 safety high and get after the run and Cam.  Poyer should be basically a extra linebacker the entire game and the corners should be playing close to the los.  Even if Cam suddenly can complete a forward pass who is going to separate on that receiving core. 

 

On offense Daboll can afford to be patient and run the football Dont just let them drop 8 all game and flood all the passing lanes waiting for a mistake or hiccup in the pass game.  I expect Josh to run tomorrow  Hopefully he covers himself up and does not take needless hits and holds onto the ball with two hands.  "Two hands Josh" 

 

If Josh does run tomorrow he better hang onto the ball because multiple turnovers are about the only way I see the Patriots staying with the Bills tomorrow.

Edited November 1, 2020 by Beast

[DuckyBoys]

yep wrap the ball up two hands and carry it with the sideline arm  I think he's going to run a ton if the conditions are crappy for passing

[transplantbillsfan]

6 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said:

Breaking :

 

 

6 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

 

We better win.

[I'm Spartacus]

F- - k the weather! I say "release the Kraken"!!!

[atlbillsfan1975]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

aren't most coaches familiar with him? He's been in the league a while now

Sure. I think Washington being the DC with Cam last season knows better than anyone what Cam struggles to overcome. Not saying Cam can’t overcome it but I’m sure coaches at Carolina knew more than coaches watching film. 

[RiotAct]

25 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

Ok, off topic, but I am the only one who gets these alerts from the Bills and it seems like they’re written by a 13 year old girl (read: Maddie Glab) with emojis?  
 

Look, I dig emojis and have read the science about the usage of them but these are over the top. Type the flipping words!!!

they’ve got that drip 💧 💯 

[PromoTheRobot]

6 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

The 20mph windspeed is just the prediction of the prevailing wind. That prediction doesn't account for wind gusts. 

 

Here's a site that I use in Los Angeles for sailing, and it's generally (at least, for LA) the most accurate I've found. it has the winds gusting to 36mph, and with rain? That's pretty brutal. 

https://www.windfinder.com/forecast/buffalo

 

 

 

So rain for the first half, about a 1/8 inch. Temps in low 40's to upper 30's. Winds steady 20-25 to the east.  Bills needs to be going to the tunnel in the 4th quarter. WInd at their backs.

[YoloinOhio]

4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Charles Jones 3.5 days on the Practice Squad?  Wonder what happened there?

 

If I'm correct, we cannot return Jackson to the practice squad without him passing through waivers - so do we keep him on the active roster now?

 

Interesting choice on elevating Brandin Bryant.  How many DLmen does that give us on the roster now?