YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: No Gilmore, No Harry and No Davis....not that we need them to be down guys since we are vastly more talented. But thats some good news. It is huge if they don’t have Gilmore because they have other good CBs and will play 5 at a time in coverage. So being down the best one alters that plan. JC Jackson has been really good at CB2. How would he be in gilmores role? And I’m not convinced the bills won’t throw the ball in the weather. Edited October 30, 2020 by YoloinOhio 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: It is huge if they don’t have Gilmore because they have other good CBs and will play 5 at a time in coverage. So being down the best one alters that plan. JC Jackson has been really good at CB2. How would he be in gilmores role? And I’m not convinced the bills won’t throw the ball in the weather. im quite convinced we WILL throw the football (unless its a downpour, which its not supposed to be - and even then I think we throw). We are a passing offense. Period. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 37 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: im quite convinced we WILL throw the football (unless its a downpour, which its not supposed to be - and even then I think we throw). We are a passing offense. Period. Have you been following the weather forecasts? It's supposed to be extremely windy all game, to the point of possibly controlling the way the game is played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Nextmanup said: Have you been following the weather forecasts? It's supposed to be extremely windy all game, to the point of possibly controlling the way the game is played. 23 MPH winds w gusts up to 40 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: 23 MPH winds w gusts up to 40 MPH. I don't expect Daboll to shut down Josh Allen's arm. As Beane said it's one of the main reasons they drafted him. Sunday is going to be one interesting game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Have you been following the weather forecasts? It's supposed to be extremely windy all game, to the point of possibly controlling the way the game is played. yes, but I said nothing about the wind. I was referring to the rain. Wind is overrated when it comes to effecting the passing game, especially with Josh's arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: yes, but I said nothing about the wind. I was referring to the rain. Wind is overrated when it comes to effecting the passing game, especially with Josh's arm. Wish I could agree. I’ve seen some of the strongest arms ever reduced to noodles in the face of winds gusts at the stadium. Especially if they’re of the swirling variety closer to field level. If they aren’t swirling, but still sustained at over 20 mph with 40 mph gusts, then I like Josh’s chances in two of the four quarters. But winds that high will wreck havoc, regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I don't expect Daboll to shut down Josh Allen's arm. As Beane said it's one of the main reasons they drafted him. Sunday is going to be one interesting game! Yeah...this scares. I know we want a strong arm guy in swirling winds of Buff, but damn when the weather is really bad, even the K gun knew when to run. Daboll seems overtly stubborn and this may make us turn the ball over. 40mph gust can knock anyones ball off course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Yeah...this scares. I know we want a strong arm guy in swirling winds of Buff, but damn when the weather is really bad, even the K gun knew when to run. Daboll seems overtly stubborn and this may make us turn the ball over. 40mph gust can knock anyones ball off course. The good news is this will limit or even negate Pats passing game. I think we sell out on the run and dare them to beat us with their bad receivers and declining Cam. I think the underneath throws and shorter crossing routes will still be in play for us as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: yes, but I said nothing about the wind. I was referring to the rain. Wind is overrated when it comes to effecting the passing game, especially with Josh's arm. Wind gusting to 40 mph can effect the ball from the strongest of arms including Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: yes, but I said nothing about the wind. I was referring to the rain. Wind is overrated when it comes to effecting the passing game, especially with Josh's arm. Pretty sure I've heard players say that rain isn't much of a factor compared to the wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Yeah...this scares. I know we want a strong arm guy in swirling winds of Buff, but damn when the weather is really bad, even the K gun knew when to run. Daboll seems overtly stubborn and this may make us turn the ball over. 40mph gust can knock anyones ball off course. The K- gun had Thurman who was the heart and soul of the offense. Those Bills teams really were a run first offense despite Jim, Andre, James and the no-huddle. This Bills team just can't run which is odd being a cold weather football team in the northeast. Beane will have to fix that this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: The good news is this will limit or even negate Pats passing game. I think we sell out on the run and dare them to beat us with their bad receivers and declining Cam. I think the underneath throws and shorter crossing routes will still be in play for us as well. This is a good point. Their passing game was already terrible. These winds should completely negate it. If Josh can’t throw to his receivers in this wind, Cam definitely can’t. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Kenny Davis, Darrick Holmes, we always ran! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Yeah...this scares. I know we want a strong arm guy in swirling winds of Buff, but damn when the weather is really bad, even the K gun knew when to run. Daboll seems overtly stubborn and this may make us turn the ball over. 40mph gust can knock anyones ball off course. I'm not expecting Josh to throw the ball 40 times Sunday. I said in my post I don't expect Daboll to shut down Josh and the passing game completely. There could be a lot of YAC yards with passes over the middle to Beasley and Diggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Josh may have more yards rushing than passing in this one. Whatever it takes get the W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I'm not expecting Josh to throw the ball 40 times Sunday. I said in my post I don't expect Daboll to shut down Josh and the passing game completely. There could be a lot of YAC yards with passes over the middle to Beasley and Diggs. Lets hope the Mongo factor pushes more runs. I really think working those sweeps would be effective too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AKC Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Of those elements of Allen’s game where there have not been improvement this season, ball protection in the pocket and on the run are the most pronounced. I have no doubt Pats* practices this week included a large dose of showing lanes on passing downs to entice Allen to run and then having 11 players going for the strip. He’s the easiest QB to strip on the run that I can ever recall in our uni. Josh just doesn’t have the awareness running backs get trained in because he has too many other things to work on in practice and the offseason and that’s exacerbated by his unwillingness to slide. I’d like to see him leave the running Sunday to our RBs. Belichick will also have them working for strips on every Singletary touch. That could be to our benefit if Devin turns that into a lot of broken tackles. Belichick will bet the other side of that proposition. Also our changeup in Moss could really have a big game for the same reason. He’s a tough tackle anyway and if they don’t focus 100% on bringing him right down he could burn them for some big gains. I like our chances a lot if turnovers don’t kill us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I'm not expecting Josh to throw the ball 40 times Sunday. I said in my post I don't expect Daboll to shut down Josh and the passing game completely. There could be a lot of YAC yards with passes over the middle to Beasley and Diggs. ...all I want to see is "Prince" lamenting in his presser, fedora and all, about the "L"........with "Purple Rain" playing in the background....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Oh Yeah! Daboll setting up to run the ball off tackle all day on SUN. Lee would wear a Seventy Something number if they permitted it! 1 hour ago, RichRiderBills said: 23 MPH winds w gusts up to 40 MPH. Beach Weather! Shorts in order 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goober Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Is there a chance they activate Levi Wallace and he plays Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 18 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Possibly the greatest coach ever is currently 2-4. yep and if they were as talented as we were it would be an even argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Belichick might make Gilmore a healthy scratch before Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, goober said: Is there a chance they activate Levi Wallace and he plays Sunday? Yes. They have a roster exemption for Covid Knox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: I don't expect Daboll to shut down Josh Allen's arm. As Beane said it's one of the main reasons they drafted him. Sunday is going to be one interesting game! I think RPOs could be very effective, especially given the weather. I wish we were deeper at the TE position for this game. 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes. They have a roster exemption for Covid Knox What are you saying here regarding Knox? Is there a possibility he plays? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RichRiderBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, AKC said: Of those elements of Allen’s game where there have not been improvement this season, ball protection in the pocket and on the run are the most pronounced. I have no doubt Pats* practices this week included a large dose of showing lanes on passing downs to entice Allen to run and then having 11 players going for the strip. He’s the easiest QB to strip on the run that I can ever recall in our uni. Josh just doesn’t have the awareness running backs get trained in because he has too many other things to work on in practice and the offseason and that’s exacerbated by his unwillingness to slide. I’d like to see him leave the running Sunday to our RBs. Belichick will also have them working for strips on every Singletary touch. That could be to our benefit if Devin turns that into a lot of broken tackles. Belichick will bet the other side of that proposition. Also our changeup in Moss could really have a big game for the same reason. He’s a tough tackle anyway and if they don’t focus 100% on bringing him right down he could burn them for some big gains. I like our chances a lot if turnovers don’t kill us. Good observation about Allen, but i think allowing him open running lanes would be a horrible mistake and strategy, even with his tendancy to put one on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I think RPOs could be very effective, especially given the weather. I wish we were deeper at the TE position for this game. What are you saying here regarding Knox? Is there a possibility he plays? No, Knox is still on the list but because of that they get a roster exemption meaning they don’t need to cut a player to activate Levi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Good observation about Allen, but i think allowing him open running lanes would be a horrible mistake and strategy, even with his tendancy to put one on the ground. It’s like the calculation on STs of whether to send your KO out of the end zone to avoid a return but sacrifice the chance of a turnover or penalty. I’m not suggesting they’ll leave the field wide open for him but I‘ll be surprised if they don’t make it look like there’s room to run when possible. A spy or defender can stack himself and hide from view for periods of time on most plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: So the Pats* have a mediocre slot receiver in Byrd and 3 other WRs who have a total combined career reception numbering 35. Career Catches: Meyers 31 catches. Olszewski 3 catches. Zubber 1 catch. I'll ask my question again. What type of D nullifies these WRs and gives the best run stopping game? All remembering that the Pats* don't have any big TE threats. Career Catches: Izzo 13 catches. Keane 1 catch. Asiasi 0 catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, ColoradoBills said: So the Pats* have a mediocre slot receiver in Byrd and 3 other WRs who have a total combined career reception numbering 35. Career Catches: Meyers 31 catches. Olszewski 3 catches. Zubber 1 catch. I'll ask my question again. What type of D nullifies these WRs and gives the best run stopping game? All remembering that the Pats* don't have any big TE threats. Career Catches: Izzo 13 catches. Keane 1 catch. Asiasi 0 catches. Play 1:1 on the outside with Tre white on Byrd, load the box 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Play 1:1 on the outside with Tre white on Byrd, load the box So I kind of think the same. White follows Byrd wherever he lines up and 1 on 1 with any other WRs lined up. Does this leave 3 LBs most of the game? This is such a crazy scenario that I'm going to ask another crazy question. With Hyde maybe out, would there be times the Bills do not have a FS and go with 2 SS? Not just asking you Yolo. I'm truly interested as I have stated "this is a crazy scenario" with the wind and no WR/TE big threats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: So I kind of think the same. White follows Byrd wherever he lines up and 1 on 1 with any other WRs lined up. Does this leave 3 LBs most of the game? This is such a crazy scenario that I'm going to ask another crazy question. With Hyde maybe out, would there be times the Bills do not have a FS and go with 2 SS? Not just asking you Yolo. I'm truly interested as I have stated "this is a crazy scenario" with the wind and no WR/TE big threats. I think if Hyde is out for a game this is a good one because I just don’t see needing him back there in the passing game. I assume we will see Marlowe up in the box 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 44 minutes ago, syhuang said: *6 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think if Hyde is out for a game this is a good one because I just don’t see needing him back there in the passing game. I assume we will see Marlowe up in the box Marlowe in the box makes sense. I'm thinking because Cam is not know for a quick release that the outside corners play off a little on these weak receivers to keep their eyes forward for the run. Bills D shuts down this running game and it could be a good day to be a Buffalo Bills fan! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Johnnycage46 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, whatdrought said: *6 Could even go *5 with the first INT against the Titans bouncing off of Roberts hands (not the best pass but really more of a fluky INT). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Keep a spy, heavy run blitz. Crash the pocket before cam can find a reciever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Could even go *5 with the first INT against the Titans bouncing off of Roberts hands (not the best pass but really more of a fluky INT). Yeah, but I figured most of the QB’s have one or two like that... rarely do you see the refs reach into their hindpots and illegally gift one like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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