kkim0904 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Don't forget, We got beat by JV Titans. Put pressure and Blitz on Newton as we did against Jets. I dont want to see conservative prevent defense against Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: yep and if they were as talented as we were it would be an even argument I agree but I do not believe they are at least not with what they are going to put on the field this week. Edited October 30, 2020 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dont Stop Billeiving Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I think if Hyde is out for a game this is a good one because I just don’t see needing him back there in the passing game. I assume we will see Marlowe up in the box Agreed. By that same logic, could see unexpected contributions/big plays from Siran Neal and Taron Johnson. Those guys are often below average in coverage but are sound tacklers and run defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Yeah, but I figured most of the QB’s have one or two like that... rarely do you see the refs reach into their hindpots and illegally gift one like that. Good point lol. The Kroft "INT" was ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said: Could even go *5 with the first INT against the Titans bouncing off of Roberts hands (not the best pass but really more of a fluky INT). Yeah, but every QB suffers those deflections that go for the INT. I have never before seen the refs gift-wrap an INT out of what was at worst a tie between the WR and DB that by rule goes to the receiver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 With Cody Ford out should we sign Q Spain off the Bengals practice squad? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, kkim0904 said: Don't forget, We got beat by JV Titans. Put pressure and Blitz on Newton as we did against Jets. I dont want to see conservative prevent defense against Pats. I have no idea what you mean by "JV Titans" The traditional interpretation would be "Junior Varsity Titans", which would be...a bizarro-world description of a team that contended for the AFC championship last season and is currently 5-1 instead of 6-0 only by virtue of a 3 point loss to the Steelers. It looked to me like a JV team on the field with the Titans at times, but it wasn't Tennessee. 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think if Hyde is out for a game this is a good one because I just don’t see needing him back there in the passing game. I assume we will see Marlowe up in the box The bad news is that Hyde and the almost uncanny communication between Poyer and Hyde has been critical for the Bills secondary. The good news is that I feel Poyer took a level-up in his abilities this season and is capable of stepping up for Hyde in this role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I have no idea what you mean by "JV Titans" The traditional interpretation would be "Junior Varsity Titans", which would be...a bizarro-world description of a team that contended for the AFC championship last season and is currently 5-1 instead of 6-0 only by virtue of a 3 point loss to the Steelers. I wondered that myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Joe B article on Bills-Pats https://theathletic.com/2171008/2020/10/30/bills-patriots-thoughts/ "The Patriots are well-known for attacking an opponent’s weakness. Given that running the ball is also their offensive strength, we could see them try to control the clock and the ball while limiting Josh Allen’s chances on offense. Newton may be struggling as a passer at the moment, but he remains an elite zone-read quarterback who makes great reads of the free edge defender. Newton is also one of the most deceptive quarterbacks with his handoffs in the zone-read. He extends his arms to bait the defense into thinking he has handed the ball off, often triggering the edge defender to attack the running back. The Bills’ defensive ends must be on alert for this and not allow significant gains to the edge." I'm not sure his assessment of the roster moves needed is correct. He believes the Bills need to release a player or place a player on IR to free up a spot for Wallace: "It would help if Wallace can return to the lineup this week. Wallace has been involved and doing a lot in practice, even taking one-on-one reps against receivers. He has a wrap on his left ankle, but he appears to be moving on it pretty well. Everything is trending in the right direction for Wallace to return this weekend, which would give the team more depth and improve the defense, especially if they have to play without starting safety Micah Hyde. Hyde is in concussion protocol and didn’t practice this week. Dean Marlowe is the better run defender and has been a part of the game plan almost every week, making him the best choice to replace Hyde over Jaquan Johnson. To make room for Wallace, though, the Bills will need to find a player to release or an injured player to put on IR." With Knox still on covid-19 IR, I don't think that's true. And because Knox (reportedly) had symptoms, I don't think he's eligible to return until Sunday or Monday at the (10 days post symptom development per NFL covid-19 protocol rules) Sal C explains: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yeah, but every QB suffers those deflections that go for the INT. I have never before seen the refs gift-wrap an INT out of what was at worst a tie between the WR and DB that by rule goes to the receiver. True. The Kroft one seemed completely made up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think if Hyde is out for a game this is a good one because I just don’t see needing him back there in the passing game. I assume we will see Marlowe up in the box If the Bills want to play the sort of contain-the-zone-read defense they used against the Ravens last year, Hyde had a critical role in spotting the "eye candy" and getting the back end of the D in the right position. The good news is without the Ravens triple-headed TE hydra plus Marquise Goodwin, the Pats may have a bit less to watch out for. IMO, Hyde has been playing hampered. He hurt his ankle in one game and limped off, got taped, came back, shrugged it off in interviews "it's football, stuff happens". I think a week to heal up his body along with his head could help him going forward. Banged-up on Hyde and our injuries: Media report on Hyde during practice: 3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: True. The Kroft one seemed completely made up. I could kind of understand if the ref blinked and then saw the DB rolling over with the ball and Kroft pulling at it and inferred what happened. But that's SUPPOSED to be the sort of awful mistake that replay can fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 8 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Wow 8 hours ago, Scott7975 said: I'm thinking Gilmore just doesn't want to play. How is his family going to watch him on television? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Put 10 on the line. Tre can cover the 3 6th string receivers the Pats have.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: who doesn’t like little Yoda? I'm getting tired of the child. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RichRiderBills Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 hours ago, AKC said: It’s like the calculation on STs of whether to send your KO out of the end zone to avoid a return but sacrifice the chance of a turnover or penalty. I’m not suggesting they’ll leave the field wide open for him but I‘ll be surprised if they don’t make it look like there’s room to run when possible. A spy or defender can stack himself and hide from view for periods of time on most plays. I just dont see that as a sound strategy. They'll get gashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Load the box and double the RBs on passing downs. Let the secondary play man to man...who are you afraid of? Patriots should look inept on offense based on talent. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 44 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Load the box and double the RBs on passing downs. Let the secondary play man to man...who are you afraid of? Patriots should look inept on offense based on talent. Absolutely. There receivers are a bunch of nobodies. Even if we had a bunch of 5th string CB’s, they should still be able to handle them. Of course Tre will absolutely lock down one of their receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 If the Bills lose to a well coached team with under preforming players, opt outs, injuries, and a change at QB this year it will sure bring a lot of people back to same old Bills. Josh Allen needs to show up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 They're going to have to get over that 20 pt. hump again in order to win. Offensive production of the last three weeks doesn't cut it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I put this in another thread, but it seems appropriate here: Here's the fear, on paper, yes, this game should be all Bills. BUT, remember the last time the Bills were set up for an easy win? Against the team that had not practiced in 10 days, was missing several starters to COVID, the team being questioned by everyone in the league. Yeah, the Bills were being picked by everyone to walk all over them. Oh yeah, that was just three weeks ago. . . . NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, take a game or an NFL team for granted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 44 minutes ago, CSBill said: I put this in another thread, but it seems appropriate here: Here's the fear, on paper, yes, this game should be all Bills. BUT, remember the last time the Bills were set up for an easy win? Against the team that had not practiced in 10 days, was missing several starters to COVID, the team being questioned by everyone in the league. Yeah, the Bills were being picked by everyone to walk all over them. Oh yeah, that was just three weeks ago. . . . NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, take a game or an NFL team for granted. Same with the home Eagles game last year. Philly was getting bashed in the media, poor coaching, poor QB play, bad defense, losing record ...and they come in to a crappy weather game in Orchard Park (like tomorrow) and whoop the Bills. This is a game that Allen and McDermott need to shine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 44 minutes ago, CSBill said: I put this in another thread, but it seems appropriate here: Here's the fear, on paper, yes, this game should be all Bills. BUT, remember the last time the Bills were set up for an easy win? Against the team that had not practiced in 10 days, was missing several starters to COVID, the team being questioned by everyone in the league. Yeah, the Bills were being picked by everyone to walk all over them. Oh yeah, that was just three weeks ago. . . . NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, take a game or an NFL team for granted. Your last sentence is as true as can be. However, the similarities between the TEN and NE games end there. You can make the argument about injuries, CoVID and all that jazz but in reality: one team has talent and success on both sides of the ball this season while the other does not. They must NOT take this game lightly, because those NE players aren’t high schoolers and their coach isn’t a rookie. It is always a threat. That being said, a loss to NE would be crushing, where as the TEN loss was but a speed bump. 2 minutes ago, zow2 said: Same with the home Eagles game last year. Philly was getting bashed in the media, poor coaching, poor QB play, bad defense, losing record ...and they come in to a crappy weather game in Orchard Park (like tomorrow) and whoop the Bills. This is a game that Allen and McDermott need to shine. Yes, if I had to pick one, I guess to me it’s more important Allen shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I think it comes down to turnovers. If we turn the ball over and give them a short field or take our own points off the board, we have a very good chance of losing. If we don’t turn it over I think we win rather convincingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) This is a statement game for McDermott all eyes are on him Edited October 31, 2020 by Penfield45 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just win baby. Continue to get healthy and get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Mr. K said: If the Bills lose to a well coached team with under preforming players, opt outs, injuries, and a change at QB this year it will sure bring a lot of people back to same old Bills. Josh Allen needs the Buffalo Bills need to show up. FIFY. There are 11 guys on each side of the ball. Allen has shown he WILL try to do it all if he must, but that usually ends kind poorly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 The thing that will be especially excruciating with this game is if we play terribly and give new life to the Cheaters and they turn around their season. We have a chance to really stick a dagger into them as it relates to their season prospects 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 57 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: FIFY. There are 11 guys on each side of the ball. Allen has shown he WILL try to do it all if he must, but that usually ends kind poorly. I like the fix-it’s pretty crazy how the narrative of Josh needing to show up has changed so quickly. His bad games this year (Tennessee and KC) would have been considered fine last year. To me this game is more about the other guys on the field-offense, defense (especially the defense), and special teams. I’m actually not too concerned about Josh, I think he will be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 14 hours ago, Mark Vader said: I'm getting tired of the child. I haven't watched anything Star Wars since Jar Jar Binks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I haven't watched anything Star Wars since Jar Jar Binks. Try “Rogue One”. It was, in my opinion, the 3rd best of the series after Empire and A New Hope 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) People are underestimating the Bills Culture. People are underestimating this Bills team. Yes, we know they will until we claim it....and that starts Sunday. I know we didn't look great in the last 3 weeks, but this team has changed. I'm confident in them, confident in the players, the coaches...confident in the focus and preparation. I know we all think the Pats focused media coverage is ok, because its the norm, we're used to it...used to disappointment, and used to these Pats putting us back in our place. Not this goddamn year. I agree this is a huge game for the Bills. There's been a lot about Cam Newton this week. His foppish Zooms and pressers, his pouting on the sideline, etc. I'm a Gator fan, and I can't stress how much I've always disliked Cam. He's an anti-patriot, and the Pats culture is in complete disarray. There's not much about our QB. Not much about Josh's work ethic, or how the team loves him, how he exudes our own growing culture, and how both he and this team fight till the end. This game is about putting a bully in his place and putting down someone who has beat on us for years. The Pats are not our "Big Brother"... I hate that damn analogy. No, the Pats are a bully who've bossed us around and kept us in our place at the bottom for years and years. This is our time. The notion that this is a bigger game for the Pats because their lousy team, bereft of talent, (we have better players at nearly every slot) is more desperate than us is an insult. I hope this makes the Bills even madder, and focused. Go get them Bills...go take your rightful place as the best team in the division. We already are that, now go show it to these jerks. Go show everyone the Pats and Bills don't belong in the same sentence together. Because in 2020 ... they don't. Go get 'em boys. WIsh we could be there. Edited October 31, 2020 by RichRiderBills 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: I like the fix-it’s pretty crazy how the narrative of Josh needing to show up has changed so quickly. His bad games this year (Tennessee and KC) would have been considered fine last year. To me this game is more about the other guys on the field-offense, defense (especially the defense), and special teams. I’m actually not too concerned about Josh, I think he will be fine Will he take what the defense give him? If he sets his mind to do that, Yes, I agree. I love Josh. I do worry he gets caught up a bit in the Media Hype Train at times - "ooooooh how does it feel to be playing against PATRICK MAHOMES the WORLD CHAMPION and actually have the conversation about how you BELONG there?" (similar with Brady last year) I mean, Jeebus, he's not playing the other team's damned QB. Sometimes I wish Josh would bite the reporters - just a LEETLE bit. A little nip of sarcasm. Tell 'em he plans to hand off or check down on every down. Tell 'em he's focused on the KC defense which is excellent and he's not going to take any questions about the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said: People are underestimating the Bills Culture. People are underestimating this Bills team. Yes, we know they will until we claim it....and that starts Sunday. I know we didn't look great in the last 3 weeks, but this team has changed. I'm confident in them, confident in the players, the coaches...confident in the focus and preparation. I know we all think the Pats focused media coverage is ok, because its the norm, we're used to it...used to disappointment, and used to these Pats putting us back in our place. Not this goddamn year. I agree this is a huge game for the Bills. There's been a lot about Cam Newton this week. His foppish Zooms and pressers, his pouting on the sideline, etc. I'm a Gator fan, and I can't stress how much I've always disliked Cam. He's an anti-patriot, and the Pats culture is in complete disarray. There's not much about our QB. Not much about Josh's work ethic, or how the team loves him, how exudes our culture, and how both he and this team fight till the end. This game is about putting a bully in his place and putting down someone who has beat on us for years. The Pats are not our "Big Brother"... I hate that damn analogy. No, the Pats are a bully who've bossed us around and kept us in our place at the bottom for years and years. This is our time. The notion that this is a bigger game for the Pats because their lousy team, bereft of talent, (we have better players at nearly every slot) is more desperate than us is an insult. I hope this makes the Bills even madder, and focused. Go get them Bills...go take your rightful place as the best team in the division. We already are that, now go show it to these jerks. Go show everyone the Pats and Bills don't belong in the same sentence together. Because in 2020 ... they don't. Go get 'em boys. WIsh we could be there. Hope you're right but I fear their coaches more than ours to game plan. I think we're the better team but weather may neutralize that and their coach is a master at game planning against the other teams weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: FIFY. There are 11 guys on each side of the ball. Allen has shown he WILL try to do it all if he must, but that usually ends kind poorly. I agree with you Ha but we know that the defense is sadly. I hope they keep working and figure it out. My main point is that the team needs JA to lead the offense to TDs and not Tyler Bass attempts. There is no Brady & co. anymore but until we stick it to that franchise it feels like the same game from the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: FIFY. There are 11 guys on each side of the ball. Allen has shown he WILL try to do it all if he must, but that usually ends kind poorly. Agreed. Josh is the least of our worries 1 minute ago, Mr. K said: I agree with you Ha but we know that the defense is sadly. I hope they keep working and figure it out. My main point is that the team needs JA to lead the offense to TDs and not Tyler Bass attempts. There is no Brady & co. anymore but until we stick it to that franchise it feels like the same game from the last 20 years. He can’t throw and catch the ball downfield now can he? If a ball hits a WR on the hands he’s supposed to catch it. When wide open for a sure TD, don’t stumble and fall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Allen, Moss, Yeldon & Singletary will out rush the Patriots by a wide margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mr. K said: I agree with you Ha but we know that the defense is sadly. I hope they keep working and figure it out. My main point is that the team needs JA to lead the offense to TDs and not Tyler Bass attempts. There is no Brady & co. anymore but until we stick it to that franchise it feels like the same game from the last 20 years. I think it feels that way to the fans, but hopefully the players have more sense of perspective. On paper and trying to be objective and take the BBFS "oooooh, the Patriots!" out of it, it's a matchup in which it looks as though our offensive strength may be neutralized by weather, and the other team's strengths may match up against our weakness (and vice versa). We need JA to take what the D gives him - nothing more, nothing less. JA can't "lead the team to TDs" if the Turf Monster trips the TE who has a clear shot at the goal line or the TD pass he throws is called back for "illegal formation", or penalties shove us into a down-and-distance hole. Allen can continue to improve at identifying opportunities - finding the open man (he had some shots he didn't take) and of course, try to hang onto the rock better when sacked (though that has to be tough) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Allen has been 0-2 in big games this season, titans game he was alright but he played horrible vs the chiefs he needs to have a strong game tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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