Josh Allen - week FIVE report card

[rayray808]

WEEK ONE: B+

WEEK TWO: A+

WEEK THREE: B+

WEEK FOUR: A-

 

WEEK FIVE: B-

 

26-41 - 63% completion, 263 YDS, 2 TD, 2 INT, 18 yards rushing

 

Ugly game on defense. Ugly game on special teams. A healthy mix of bad luck and bad decisions on offense.

 

First and foremost the INT off Roberts hands/chest just can't happen. It turns a first down for us, into a touchdown for them. It started the snowball effect of our defense being exposed. I was absolutely furious when that happened especially since it was not on Josh at all. (bad luck)

 

During the first half drops plagued us in a bad way as well. Drive killers and momentum stoppers. Again, I really felt for Josh on these because it seemed to suck the air out of drives when we are already nearly running on fumes. (bad luck)

 

Forcing the ball to Diggs became an issue that even the announcers started to pick up on. There was a few passes that could have been picked off, but didn't, however the INT to Davis was a bad one. It reminded me of the "Old Josh" and was just an error that we can't have when we are playing from behind with a defense that is getting abused. (bad decisions)

 

I originally was going to give Josh a C+ for today, however the rest of the team did so awful that it's tough to pin so much on him. In reality, he was the only reason we were even somewhat in this game. Overall this week had bad vibes all around it. The Titans were almost given the royal treatment by the league of being somewhat "rewarded" for not following protocols. Sure they didn't get to practice, but they got AJ Brown back (who we saw could NOT be guarded by anyone active on our roster) along with other players whom if protocols were not broken and a Sunday game occurred, would not have been playing. On our side? I am convinced that Tre made a family decision to not risk it and play in this game. I don't blame him at all and if you have negative feelings towards him because of that decision... shame on you.

 

Glass half full: in a terrible, terrible, game - our young QB did not sh**t the bed and stayed poised minus one bad throw. He was spotted on the sideline trying to pick up the defense and rally the guys. A true class act.

 

Glass half empty: without John Brown our offense has no deep threat and it shows. Our 3rd down safety valve is also gone although Josh still makes amazing plays happen. Most importantly though, our defense went from elite to dare I say... a liability. Our special teams has laces pointed in, fumbled kick returns, and just an overall "hold your breath" every time they are on the field approach. I don't care how good Josh Allen progresses this year, if our D and Special teams take huge steps back - we will not only lose the division, but we might not even get the 7 seed.

 

What's the perfect way to rebound from this embarrassing loss? Beat the Chiefs on a Monday night.

 

GO BILLS! 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 14, 2020 by rayray808

[TwistofFate]

c+

[MJS]

I'd give him a solid C. He had some noticeably off throws today. Throwing behind receivers a lot. Plus the really bad INT where he just didn't see the defender lurking.

 

He was also late on a lot of his throws. Receivers had to be open a long time before he trusted throwing it to them. He needs to get that ball out a bit quicker and hit them right when they come open.

 

But he showed some good stuff. Special teams and defense were really brutal today.

Edited October 14, 2020 by MJS

[JaCrispy]

Solid “C”

 

Some nice throws, but too many poor decisions, and more off-target throws than we are used to seeing this year...Eventually Allen was able to finish with a respectable stat line...

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Had a bad game, and the team can’t carry him. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

He played like last year. The touch was gone, missing wide open receivers, forcing the ball into coverage, not taking what defense gives you. 
 

Good thing is we usually learn from our mistakes and fix them. Especially after a bad loss like this. Hopefully the defense can get to below average or even average and we should be fine

Edited October 14, 2020 by Not at the table Karlos

[H2o]

This is his worst performance thus far, but it feels so much worse because of what we saw the first 4 weeks. He still completed 63% which could have been better if not for 4 clear drops, one leading to an INT, and another two that could be seen either way. I give him a C+ though because this was the first time you saw him trying to force the game like last year. He locked on Diggs way too often and threw a really bad INT. It was a bad game, the kid is still growing, and he's still much improved over last year. 

[78thealltimegreat]

B- the second int was his fault... the first was the fact Roberts isn’t an NFL receiver...he got the ball once in the 4th quarter that’s on the other guys 

[SCBills]

C

 

Looked like one of the few who actually showed up to play tonight.  Made some electric throws.   Was good enough to win if our defense wasn’t becoming one of the worst in the league. 
 

The second half pick was an absolute gut punch. 
 

Let down far too frequently by drops and penalties. 
 

Combine that with the fact that our defensive issues have to be something he’s aware of, adding more pressure to get points every drive.  
 

Same storm we saw against the Texans, with the same result from Allen... he tries to do too much and it ends up hurting us. 
 

 

Edited October 14, 2020 by SCBills

[stevestojan]

Yikes. These are some high grades. 

[Johnnycage46]

All things considered his pick inside the Titans 30 to a wide open Butler was the game sealer for the Titans.  Z-

[HappyDays]

I'll give him a C+. Aside from the 2nd pick if that is the worst Josh Allen we'll see that is a solid floor, probably a B. But the 2nd pick was just inexcusably bad. He panicked and didn't see the defender. That's a rookie Josh Allen mistake that we couldn't afford in that spot. By and large though he was not the problem tonight. I'm not sure A+ Josh Allen would have won this game either.

[Brandon]

C+/B-.  My only serious gripe with his performance in this game was the 2nd interception.  I'm not going to pick the rest of it apart.  Could have been better,  could have been worse.  I thought he played decently and I do think John Brown's absence affected him and the rest of the offense.  Likewise,  I think its asking a bit much to expect a 3rd year QB to carry the team every week without the occasional bad game.  Its going to happen once in a while. 

[GunnerBill]

I'd give Josh a C. He wasn't the reason we lost the game but he was a bit off all night. I think the Titans did a really good job especially first half disguising coverages and confusing him a bit but he tried to force too many balls tonight and while the first INT was definitely not on him he got away with two that should have been picked before the 2nd one was. 

 

Not a disastrous performance by any means and he still had 3 or 4 great throws but not a good performance either on a night when, frankly, almost nothing about the Bills was good.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

I like that you grade the QB on his performance rather than the outcome of the game. 

 

This was definitely the worst game by Josh this year, but it wasn't terrible. I think B-/C+ is fair. 

Edited October 14, 2020 by DabillsDaBillsDaBills
fixing grades

[HappyDays]

8 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

.he got the ball once in the 4th quarter that’s on the other guys 

 

Yeah I was actually very confident that he'd bring us back if the defense could get them off the field... he was denied a chance. But part of that is the interception he threw. I don't think it would have made a difference, it was still 3rd down that probably wouldn't have converted either way, but he can't make that mistake.

[RiotAct]

B.

[LabattBlue]

A very generous B- by the OP.  The int on the first series was a terrible pass that was well behind Roberts.  On a night where Josh had all kind of time to throw, it was a very disappointing game.

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Back the Blue said:

A very generous B- by the OP.  The int on the first series was a terrible pass that was well behind Roberts.  On a night where Josh had all kind of time to throw, it was a very disappointing game.

Hard no on this.  It hit Roberts in the hands.  Catch that ***. 

[Dr.Sack]

One problem I noticed today was the running game never got going for the 5th straight week. We’ve yet to have our backs go over 100 yards on their own. The OL or play design seems to be lacking. It seemed every Tennesssee run wore us down, put us on our heels and guys got dragged down.. Meanwhile our runs the the defense was coming downhill teeing off on our guys. For all the talk of have big studs on both lines we looked the weaker team today. 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

6 minutes ago, Back the Blue said:

A very generous B- by the OP.  The int on the first series was a terrible pass that was well behind Roberts.  On a night where Josh had all kind of time to throw, it was a very disappointing game.

 

It wasn't a perfect pass, but that's a catch 99% of the time in the NFL. 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

One problem I noticed today was the running game never got going for the 5th straight week. We’ve yet to have our backs go over 100 yards on their own. The OL or play design seems to be lacking. It seemed every Tennesssee run wore us down, put us on our heels and guys got dragged down.. Meanwhile our runs the the defense was coming downhill teeing off on our guys. For all the talk of have big studs on both lines we looked the weaker team today. 

 

We have a line built to pass block and running backs who lack the burst to hit the hole. Once a game Singletary will make a guy will and break off a 10-15 yarder but so far I remain if the view this guy is not an every down NFL back. I can't believe I am about to say this but we might need more Yeldon? 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

This has to be a C. A C performance is just barely enough to win the game if your team is otherwise beating the opponent. That's what we got overall. It was substantially worse than other games this year, stats notwithstanding.

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

One problem I noticed today was the running game never got going for the 5th straight week. We’ve yet to have our backs go over 100 yards on their own. The OL or play design seems to be lacking. It seemed every Tennesssee run wore us down, put us on our heels and guys got dragged down.. Meanwhile our runs the the defense was coming downhill teeing off on our guys. For all the talk of have big studs on both lines we looked the weaker team today. 

We have an above average pass blocking line and a below average run blocking line... maybe Feliciano helps in that regard.  
 

Tannehill’s line the opposite.. they aren’t that good at pass pro, but he gets rid of it quick and is mobile - however, they are maulers in the run game for Henry. 
 

 

Edited October 14, 2020 by SCBills

[LabattBlue]

1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

It wasn't a perfect pass, but that's a catch 99% of the time in the NFL. 

Which also begs the question,  why is Roberts(WR#5) even in the game at that point?

[dubs]

I’d give him a C/+

 

Let’s just move on from this one. 

[Dr.Sack]

Just now, SCBills said:

We have an above average pass blocking line and a below average run blocking line... maybe Feliciano helps in that regard.  
 

Tannehill’s line the opposite.. they aren’t that good at pass pro, but he gets rid of it quick and is mobile, but they are maulers in the run game for Henry. 

Then it’s amazing how quickly they got open with how quickly Tannehill gets it out.

[JoPoy88]

C+ sounds about right to me. Although he did have some absolutely fantastic throws, even in this debacle. Main things for me that takes the grade down were the bad INT and the fact that he seemed to be more than occasionally throwing behind his targets tonight, which he hasn’t done in a while. 
 

Allen is the best player on the team though, along with Diggs and White. We’ll need some more guys to step up.  

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

Then it’s amazing how quickly they got open with how quickly Tannehill gets it out.

I mean, 3rd and 19, he has two dudes running wide open up the middle of the field for a first down to choose from. 
 

That’s been every game this year.  We take away deep shots, for the most part, but underneath/intermediate stuff is open with hardly any resistance. 

[Dr.Sack]

Just now, SCBills said:

I mean, 3rd and 19, he has two dudes running wide open up the middle of the field for a first down to choose from. 
 

That’s been every game this year.  We take away deep shots, for the most part, but underneath/intermediate stuff is open with hardly any resistance. 

Edmunds in no man’s land. He’s always out of position. Years past he seemed to be involved in many more passing lanes getting PDs.

[78thealltimegreat]

21 minutes ago, Back the Blue said:

A very generous B- by the OP.  The int on the first series was a terrible pass that was well behind Roberts.  On a night where Josh had all kind of time to throw, it was a very disappointing game.

NFL receivers make that catch Roberts isn’t an NFL receiver 

[Cruiserplayer]

Weeks 1-4: A. Week 5: C-.

[JohnNord]

42 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

I like that you grade the QB on his performance rather than the outcome of the game. 

 

This was definitely the worst game by Josh this year, but it wasn't terrible. I think B-/C+ is fair. 

I would agree with a B.  The Bills had no running game going which put them behind the sticks quite a bit - yet he still converted some 3rd downs.  
 

The INT was a killer though.  If you are going to give Allen a C, what are your grades for some other players?

20 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I mean, 3rd and 19, he has two dudes running wide open up the middle of the field for a first down to choose from. 
 

That’s been every game this year.  We take away deep shots, for the most part, but underneath/intermediate stuff is open with hardly any resistance. 

That’s on the LB’s.... Edmunds is just bad.  At this point the Bills should just sign Nigel Bradham

and sit Edmunds 

[CincyBillsFan]

A B- is a fair grade.

 

He had a lot more great throws then bad ones.  Keep in mind that with our terrible running game (how many times did we LOSE yardage on a run?) and all to frequent false starts Allen faced and converted a lot of 3rd & longs.  And every one of those conversions was an awesome throw.

 

And Allen did take what was given him.  True he forced a couple but that seemed more a reaction to the sense that the game was slipping away as our D couldn't stop them.

 

And lets not forget the horrible field position.  The Bills started drives at the 10, 9, 2 & 10 yard lines.  As others have said if this is Allen's new floor then we're in for 10 - 12 years of awesome QBing from this guy.

 

 

 

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

A B- is a fair grade.

 

He had a lot more great throws then bad ones.  Keep in mind that with our terrible running game (how many times did we LOSE yardage on a run?) and all to frequent false starts Allen faced and converted a lot of 3rd & longs.  And every one of those conversions was an awesome throw.

 

And Allen did take what was given him.  True he forced a couple but that seemed more a reaction to the sense that the game was slipping away as our D couldn't stop them.

 

And lets not forget the horrible field position.  The Bills started drives at the 10, 9, 2 & 10 yard lines.  As others have said if this is Allen's new floor then we're in for 10 - 12 years of awesome QBing from this guy.

 

 

 

Allen has to be the most automatic 3rd and long QB I’ve ever seen.  It’s absurd how strong he is at throwing dimes in these situations. 

[Big Turk]

Not great...got in a rhythm then threw another bad INT. Didn't even attempt a deep throw.

 

That throw to Yeldon for a TD was an absolute laser tho.

 

Where were the overs? Titans were playing a lot of zone, where were the deep floods? Seemed way too content to let the Titans dictate what we did instead of attacking like we have all the other games on offense.

 

Wasn't terrible by any stretch and his receivers dropping catchable balls didn't help either. Like the entire team Allen was just off today.

I'd give him a B- or C+...

 

I am struggling to think of a single player that played well...I mean even Bojo with that booming punt had a blatant HS miscue where he held the FG with the laces facing Bass...

Edited October 14, 2020 by matter2003

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

Maybe having an NFL level TE on the roster would help?  Just spitballin here...

[Mango]

 I dig this weekly thread.

 

I’m generally about a 1/3 of a letter grade harsher than you are. But this week I am a full letter grade. I thought he stared down receivers, point the ball ball at receivers, threw into triple coverage, and stayed with his first read too long/all day. It was much better than the last two years but not good overall. 
 

There was a major positive I thought. Odd to say, I thought this might have been his best game in terms of feeling the pocket. There were plus where not only would have been sacked and not made a step forward/left/right last year, but plays where he may have been sacked in the last few weeks. I was impressed with this part of his game this week. 
 

 

[Scott7975]

I feel the B- this week is pretty fair.  His passes were not on the money as in past games however most were still pretty catchable.  The second int was bad.  Must have lost track of the defender.  Tried to push the ball to Diggs too much the first half instead of spreading the ball around which he was so good at in other games. 

 

I think the score could have went a little lower but I like the B- because he was one of the best players on our field today, if not the best.  He had drive killing drops.  Some of those passes were off but catchable and the receiver should/could have made a play for him.  Also he was constantly playing behind in score, behind the sticks from penalties, behind in field position, and had not much running game.  He was also pressured more this week than in the past.  Yet, he still continued to convert 3rd downs being behind it all.  This is why I feel the grade goes up to the B-.

Edited October 14, 2020 by Scott7975

[LABILLBACKER]

C+

He missed some throws but as others have mentioned Andre set the tone for tonight. I counted 4-5 drops. Everyone seemed off tonight. And I'm sure the nonsensical week of "who we play" factored in. I was concerned that there were moments when Josh seem to lose some poise. Obviously Smoke is more valuable then we thought. He will bounce back but I'm terrified that our D is so bad it may not matter.