Titans NOW 20 positive Covid tests and Impacts ] updated 10/3

[NoSaint]

7 hours ago, SCBills said:

Interesting that one more positive player test results in this...  

 

What's the point of the expanded PS, if 5 players testing positive leads to this?

exposure without positives? Maybe? 

[stevewin]

Wonder if more issues with other teams come up that affect playing games if they could add a week or two at the end of the season for any make-up games if required before starting the playoffs.  Would think in the new world order it shouldn't be that big a deal to move out playoffs or even SB - mostly would just have to adjust the network programming?   At a min would think they could go back to just one week between conf championship and SB and buy a week that way

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Apologies if I missed this, but this seems to be a pretty good article including a timeline on the Titans outbreak and some of the issues around timing of testing arising from it:

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30002250/tennessee-titans-covid-19-outbreak-know-positive-coronavirus-tests-nfl-games-postponed

 

Key points:

-48 close contacts were identified, some presumably using Kinexon Proximity Recording tracking devices all players and employees wear during team activities (including travel)
-"General guidance from public health officials suggests it can take up to five to seven days for an infection to register in a test."

[but that doesn't mean it's clear sailing with a neg. test 5-7 days post exposure:

"Up to 30% of people might not test positive or develop symptoms on day eight, nine, 10, up to day 14,"

-Vikes hope to be back in facility Thurs

- Vikes-Texans still on the schedule as of this article

-soonest Titans can get back would be Saturday (unclear whether this is pushed back by the additional pos. tests

-Titans-Steelers officially postponed, reschedule TBD

 

Flowchart from NFL explaining how asymptomatic and symptomatic positive tests are handled.  Click graphic or go to tweet to embiggen.

 

This is from the NFL protocols FYI only

 

HTH and doesn't spur an "outbreak" of "everyone's an infectious disease expert";  please respect the request to keep the discussion to football and don't debate what you think the protocol should be. It Is What It Is.

[The Wiz]

33 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Wonder if more issues with other teams come up that affect playing games if they could add a week or two at the end of the season for any make-up games if required before starting the playoffs.  Would think in the new world order it shouldn't be that big a deal to move out playoffs or even SB - mostly would just have to adjust the network programming?   At a min would think they could go back to just one week between conf championship and SB and buy a week that way

I guess the push back would likely be from a result of final standings. 

 

If a team that was rescheduled was in the mix for a playoff birth or the seeding changed then sure, push it back.

 

If it does nothing to the overall playoff picture then I feel like they could just as easily call it a tie or don't even count it toward their overall record to keep the draft in order. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[gordong]

Titans now up to 13 total people  7 players and 6 personal 

[Rochesterian Bills Fan]

This is a God Damned Cluster ***** of the first order. I don't see how you can make the game up without ***** the Bills.

[nucci]

Next weeks game is now in question

[PaattMaann]

1 minute ago, Rochesterian Bills Fan said:

This is a God Damned Cluster ***** of the first order. I don't see how you can make the game up without ***** the Bills.

 

The game will be played as scheduled, Titans will just be down so far 7 players. 

Just now, nucci said:

Next weeks game is now in question

 

I dont see it in question, they shut them down monday, gives them the 7 day window for positive test results. They will be back in their facility monday of next week ready to get their non-covid butts kicked..and short a bunch of quarantined guys. 

[gordong]

4 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

The game will be played as scheduled, Titans will just be down so far 7 players. 

 

I dont see it in question, they shut them down monday, gives them the 7 day window for positive test results. They will be back in their facility monday of next week ready to get their non-covid butts kicked..and short a bunch of quarantined guys. 

 

  HOW???   they had two more people test positive today...   that's 8 day from the bills game.  it can take up to 14 day for them to test / show signs yet can still spread it.   So now we play them and start testing positive... F THAT.  

[PaattMaann]

1 minute ago, gordong said:

 

  HOW???   they had two more people test positive today...   that's 8 day from the bills game.  it can take up to 14 day for them to test / show signs yet can still spread it.   So now we play them and start testing positive... F THAT.  

 

People testing positive today have NO EFFECT on the timeline, its from when they isolated/shut down the Titans. The only date that matters is last Monday when they shut them down. I cannot get into the specifics you mentioned of your "14 days" because that kind of COVID talk is outlawed here. 

[416BillsFan]

8 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

The game will be played as scheduled, Titans will just be down so far 7 players. 

 

I dont see it in question, they shut them down monday, gives them the 7 day window for positive test results. They will be back in their facility monday of next week ready to get their non-covid butts kicked..and short a bunch of quarantined guys. 

Adam Schefter isn't one for hot takes, it might not:

 

[Johnnycage46]

4 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said:

Adam Schefter isn't one for hot takes, it might not:

 

 

As a fan it would suck to not have the Bills on next weekend.  But if it comes to that, I guess the sooner the Bills know the better so they can get more prep time for the Chiefs.

[DrDawkinstein]

I''ll take the win if Titans are forced to forfeit. 5-0 and on to Kansas City!

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said:

Adam Schefter isn't one for hot takes, it might not:

 

7 players so far... that’s workable if it stops here, or doesn’t progress too much further,  but yea... I think it’s obvious that if that number doubles over the weekend and we hit Monday with 14-15 Titans players testing positive and no end to the continuous days of positive tests that our game would be in jeopardy.  
 

That said, the Titans used up their bye week bullet... Only other option I’ve heard is a “Week 18” make up date for games before the Playoffs start. 

[Process]

I can't get over with how stupid the NFL was with the schedule. How the hell did they not make any adjustments and have more built in bye weeks to accommodate for games that need to be rescheduled. 

 

If teams start needed to reschedule multiple games the whole thing is going to fall apart. 

[Chandler#81]

Looks like an early bye week’s acomin’..

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Looks like an early bye week’s acomin’..

 

I say punish them and have them forfeit. 
 

lol.  

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

I say punish them and have them forfeit. 
 

lol.  

 

Considering it was their own negligence that led to this, I believe this may actually be considered.

 

On a positive note an early bye week is beneficial to us this year.

[mjt328]

I suppose they could consider pushing the Bills-Titans to Monday or Tuesday....

but the Bills-Chiefs is scheduled to be on that upcoming Thursday.  You obviously can't play with two days rest.

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Considering it was their own negligence that led to this, I believe this may actually be considered.

 

On a positive note an early bye week is beneficial to us this year.

 

Can it really be proven it was "negligence" that led to this? It's an airborne disease that spreads pretty easily. Folks that get it shouldnt be vilified for having it.

 

It's not like the NFL is bubbling or doing anything remotely close. Breaches like this HAD to be expected.

 

That said, I think the Titans should be forced to forfeit our game anyways. Thems the breaks of playing during a pandemic.

Just now, mjt328 said:

I suppose they could consider pushing the Bills-Titans to Monday or Tuesday....

but the Bills-Chiefs is scheduled to be on that upcoming Thursday.  You obviously can't play with two days rest.

 

 

 

Could they move our Chiefs game to Sunday?

 

Titans move to Tuesday, Chiefs to a normal Sunday.

[HappyDays]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

Can it really be proven it was "negligence" that led to this? It's an airborne disease that spreads pretty easily. Folks that get it shouldnt be vilified for having it.

 

Apparently a practice squad player tested positive. A coach who had interacted with him then spoke to his players in a room without wearing a mask. It's one thing for a single person to get it but there are protocols in place to stop an outbreak and in this case they weren't followed.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Apparently a practice squad player tested positive. A coach who had interacted with him then spoke to his players in a room without wearing a mask. It's one thing for a single person to get it but there are protocols in place to stop an outbreak and in this case they weren't followed.

 

I'll take the win!

[gordong]

just got a text that now saying titians have 7 players and 7 personal.  (the Athletic)

[wjag]

27 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Can it really be proven it was "negligence" that led to this? It's an airborne disease that spreads pretty easily. Folks that get it shouldnt be vilified for having it.

 

It's not like the NFL is bubbling or doing anything remotely close. Breaches like this HAD to be expected.

 

That said, I think the Titans should be forced to forfeit our game anyways. Thems the breaks of playing during a pandemic.

 

Could they move our Chiefs game to Sunday?

 

Titans move to Tuesday, Chiefs to a normal Sunday.

 

Because the telecast of the Thursday games belong to the NFL, that seems possible.  If it belonged to Fox or CBS or ESPN, there might have been real heartburn.

 

[DrDawkinstein]

@Bangarang @Back the Blue

 

To carry the discussion over from the closed duplicate thread...

 

The teams all signed up for a "season at risk". Having a team (even ours) forced to play with backups, or even forced to forfeit a game, is part of the territory. No one in the NFL should be surprised if it gets to that point.

 

We wouldnt like it if it happened to us, but thems the breaks in 2020.

[LabattBlue]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

@Bangarang @Back the Blue

 

To carry the discussion over from the closed duplicate thread...

 

The teams all signed up for a "season at risk". Having a team (even ours) forced to play with backups, or even forced to forfeit a game, is part of the territory. No one in the NFL should be surprised if it gets to that point.

 

We wouldnt like it if it happened to us, but thems the breaks in 2020.

To be clear, by forfeit, you are suggesting it counts as a loss for the Titans and a win for their opponent, correct?  
 

If so, I stand by my previous post...not going to happen. 

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Back the Blue said:

To be clear, by forfeit, you are suggesting it counts as a loss for the Titans and a win for their opponent, correct?  
 

If so, I stand by my previous post...not going to happen. 

 

I agree it is extremely unlikely, and would be an absolute last resort for the league. Just saying, nothing is out of the question for this season.

[Buddo]

There's definitely 'an issue' with the Bills game on that following Sunday. Without knowing the minutiae of the NFL protocols, the reality is that any positive tests occurring with  just over a week to go to a game, is something to be concerned about.

 

Hopefully the new positives are within a group that should have been self isolating, since the whole thing with the Titans started.

 

If there's any 'spillover', then the Titans, and consequently the NFL, have a lot more problems to resolve, especially as regards scheduling.

 

About the only things they can realistically do, is reschedule for the Monay or Tuesday, assuming no further infections, and then push the Chiefs game back to Sunday.

 

Alternatively try and find another space for the game to be played later in the year, and cancel it from the original date.

 

From the financial standpoint, the latter option would be their best bet, as they almost certainly do not want to have no Thursday Night game, as that would cost them.

 

Although if the Thursday Night game is their own exclusive game hen as someone has just said as I was posting, that may make that a more viable option.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Buddo
Added last note about the Thursday night game

[Buftex]

17 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

@Bangarang @Back the Blue

 

To carry the discussion over from the closed duplicate thread...

 

The teams all signed up for a "season at risk". Having a team (even ours) forced to play with backups, or even forced to forfeit a game, is part of the territory. No one in the NFL should be surprised if it gets to that point.

 

We wouldnt like it if it happened to us, but thems the breaks in 2020.

Right. We already knew, going into this season, that it just wasn't going to be "fair" for some teams.  Hopefully there isn't a lot more of this (remember how baseball's season started out, and then calmed down), but if nothing else, it will serve as a reminder that this pandemic thing isn't really over yet, even if people want to act as if it is. 

[Mango]

1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

I suppose they could consider pushing the Bills-Titans to Monday or Tuesday....

but the Bills-Chiefs is scheduled to be on that upcoming Thursday.  You obviously can't play with two days rest.

 

 

 

Negative. Bills ply KC that Thursday. 

 

Raiders act like butt heads as an organization but we are talking about whether the Titans should forfeit to prove a point. 

 

Wild time to be alive. Haha

Edited October 2, 2020 by Mango

[PaattMaann]

21 minutes ago, Buddo said:

There's definitely 'an issue' with the Bills game on that following Sunday. Without knowing the minutiae of the NFL protocols, the reality is that any positive tests occurring with  just over a week to go to a game, is something to be concerned about.

 

Hopefully the new positives are within a group that should have been self isolating, since the whole thing with the Titans started.

 

If there's any 'spillover', then the Titans, and consequently the NFL, have a lot more problems to resolve, especially as regards scheduling.

 

About the only things they can realistically do, is reschedule for the Monay or Tuesday, assuming no further infections, and then push the Chiefs game back to Sunday.

 

Alternatively try and find another space for the game to be played later in the year, and cancel it from the original date.

 

From the financial standpoint, the latter option would be their best bet, as they almost certainly do not want to have no Thursday Night game, as that would cost them.

 

Although if the Thursday Night game is their own exclusive game hen as someone has just said as I was posting, that may make that a more viable option.

 

Hopefully ? that IS what the Titans players and coaches are doing. They have been isolated since Monday. Hence why these new positives shouldnt effect the game with the Bills - other than those positive players not playing.

Edited October 2, 2020 by PaattMaann

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

The Titans placed cornerback Kristian Fulton on the reserve/COVID-19 list Thursday.

That brings the total to a combined 13 players and team personnel who have tested positive for the Titans this week.
 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30022807/source-two-more-tennessee-titans-players-test-positive-covid-19
 

 

players names provided

[MJS]

3 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

Hopefully ? that IS what the Titans players and coaches are doing. They have been isolated since Monday. Hence why these new positives shouldnt effect the game with the Bills - other than those positive players not playing.

Do we have a list of the players that have tested positive?

Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

The Titans placed cornerback Kristian Fulton on the reserve/COVID-19 list Thursday.

That brings the total to a combined 13 players and team personnel who have tested positive for the Titans this week.
 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30022807/source-two-more-tennessee-titans-players-test-positive-covid-19
 

 

players names provided

Thanks!

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Just now, MJS said:

Do we have a list of the players that have tested positive?

see my post above

[Malazan]

The league should have made the season longer this year. Several ways they could have done it with an extra bye for each team, a whole week off where teams with re-scheduled games play like in late november/december. Expecting to go through the season without having this happen was silly. 

[MiltonWaddams]

8 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

The league should have made the season longer this year. Several ways they could have done it with an extra bye for each team, a whole week off where teams with re-scheduled games play like in late november/december. Expecting to go through the season without having this happen was silly. 

It would’ve made a lot more sense to have done that so that they could squeeze these games in on two bye weeks. instead of adding a week at the end we’re trying to squeeze these games in with limited time between games that could create even more of an injury situation. Not really sure why they didn’t do it, but I’m sure there was the reason is it’s just too logical to think they completely missed that.

[Real McClappy]

12 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

The league should have made the season longer this year. Several ways they could have done it with an extra bye for each team, a whole week off where teams with re-scheduled games play like in late november/december. Expecting to go through the season without having this happen was silly. 

They still easily can though?

 

 

[Buftex]

5 minutes ago, Real McNasty said:

They still easily can though?

 

 

Yep.  Rescheduling games is much easier, where there are no fans involved.